Jun 23, 2026 Frisco - Planning and Zoning Commission

THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT SEAN MERRELL IS LEAVING FOR ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND SIX.

SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE CONVEYANCE PLAT THE CREEK ON 121 BLOCK A LOT 1, CP-26-0013.

[Conveyance Plat: The Creek on 121, Block A, Lot 1 (CP26-0013)]

OWNER EAST GROUP PROPERTIES LP WAYZATA TRUST.

THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD WAS SUBMITTED ON APRIL 27TH, 2026, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED A 30 DAY EXTENSION ON JUNE 3RD,

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2026. SO AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT NEEDS ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADDRESS STAFF'S COMMENTS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT AFTER THE AGENDA WAS FINALIZED AND POSTED.

THEREFORE, YOU DO ALL HAVE AN UPDATED STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND TO WITHDRAW THIS ITEM.

AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THIS ITEM.

OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY JON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-6, 5-0. 5-0. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX. WHICH IS THE CONVEYANCE PLAT FOR FM 423.

[Conveyance Plat: FM423 Lonestar Addition, Block A, Lots 1-6 (CP26-0015)]

LONE STAR ADDITION BLOCK A, LOTS 1 THROUGH 6, CP26-0015 FM2423 LONE STAR COMMERCIAL LLC AND GITA MANDIR INC.. I NEED A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SIX ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY JON. SECOND. SECOND BY MICHAEL.

MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.

[Open Space Plan & Site Plan: Preston Trail at West Rowlett Creek, Block A, Lot 1 (OS26-0037 & SP26-0049)]

LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT SEAN IS BACK AND MICHAEL IS, MICHAEL HOWARD HAS LEFT THE DAIS.

SO ITEM NUMBER 12 IS THE OPEN SPACE PLAN AND SITE PLAN FOR PRESTON TRAIL AT WEST ROWLETT CREEK BLOCK A LOT 1 OS-26-0037 AND SP-26-0049. PRESTON TRAIL MINISTRIES, INC., SO I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12. I HAVE A MOTION BY SEAN.

SECOND. SECOND BY STEVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT MICHAEL HOWARD IS BACK.

NEXT WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. WE HAVE NINE PUBLIC HEARING HEARING ON THE AGENDA.

[Conveyance Plat: Point East Industrial, Block A, Lots 1-7 (CP26-0016)]

AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS PRECEDED BY A STAFF.

STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED TEN MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION.

FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

ALL SPEAKERS, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, NEED TO COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND PROVIDED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE TO PRESENT YOUR POSITION.

PLEASE AVOID REPEATING WHAT HAS BEEN STATED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS OTHER THAN STATING THAT YOU AGREE WITH THEIR COMMENTS.

THE TIME LIMIT IS FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME IF LARGE VOLUME OF PEOPLE ARE WISHING TO SPEAK.

PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

REPEAT APPEARANCES TO THE PODIUM ARE NOT PERMITTED.

AFTER ALL PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASE WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED UNLESS THE CASE IS TABLED TO A FUTURE DATE AND THE COMMISSION INCLUDES, IN THEIR MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT A FUTURE MEETING.

AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.

PLEASE NOTE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ZONING CASES UNLESS THE COMMISSION DISAPPROVES THE CASE AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAL THE DISAPPROVAL, FINAL ACTION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF TO AS TO WHEN THE CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL.

REAL QUICK CORRECTION WE ONLY HAVE SIX PUBLIC.

OH SIX. OKAY, SIX. CORRECTION. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 22.

22 THE CONVEYANCE PLAT OF POINT EAST INDUSTRIAL BLOCK A LOTS 1-7, CP-26-0016 OWNER'S FIELDS POINT EAST INVESTMENT PARTNERS LP AND FHQ DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS LP.

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THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ON MAY 26TH, 2026.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND FOUND THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH ALL CITY STANDARDS, ZONING ORDINANCES AND POLICIES. SO THIS EVENING, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU ALL FOR DISAPPROVAL.

I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE ITEM NUMBER 22 FOR THE REASONS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND DELEGATE TO STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE REASONS FOR THE DISAPPROVAL. I HAVE A MOTION BY SEAN.

SECOND. SECOND BY STEVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ITEM NUMBER 23, THE FINAL PLAT OF BETTIS ESTATES BLOCK A LOT 1 FP26-0004

[Final Plat: Bettis Estates, Block A, Lot 1 (FP26-0004)]

OWNERS BETTIS, BETTIS CHAD AND KRISTINA REVOCABLE TRUST.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY BECAUSE IT FAILED TO MEET THE CITY'S CODES, ORDINANCES AND ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

FOR THE REASONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVAL TONIGHT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JUST REVIEWING IT. THERE'S JUST A FEW ITEMS THEY NEED TO CLEAN UP ON THEIR SURVEY.

YES THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEY HAVE A NOTARY FOR MAKING SURE THE NAMES MATCH UP AND EVERYTHING.

CORRECT? I MOVE TO DISAPPROVE ITEM NUMBER 23 FOR THE REASONS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF'S REPORT, AND TO DELEGATE TO STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE APPLICANT OF THE REASONS FOR THE DISAPPROVAL.

I HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY MICHAEL.

MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM NUMBER 24. OPEN SPACE PLAN AND SITE PLAN.

[Open Space Plan & Site Plan: Point East Industrial, Block A, Lots 1-4 & 7 (OS26-0041 & SP26-0055)]

POINT EAST INDUSTRIAL BLOCK A LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR AND SEVEN OS26-0041 AND SP-26-0055. OWNERS FHQ DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS LP AND FIELDS POINT EAST INVESTMENT PARTNERS LP.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD IS BEFORE YOU ALL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL THIS EVENING.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND FOUND THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND OTHER APPLICABLE POLICIES.

AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. MOTION. I MOVE TO DISAPPROVE ITEM NUMBER 24 FOR THE REASONS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF'S REPORT AND DELEGATE TO STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE APPLICANT OF THE REASONS FOR THE DISAPPROVAL.

MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND. BY SEAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

[Public Hearing - Replat: Frisco Original Donation, Block 14, Lot 15 (RP26-0012)]

ITEM NUMBER 25. PUBLIC HEARING REPLAT FRISCO ORIGINAL DONATION BLOCK 14, LOT BLOCK 14, LOT 15, RP26-0012. OWNER CITY OF FRISCO. THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD IS BEFORE YOU ALL THIS EVENING FOR APPROVAL, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLAT IS TO COMBINE THE OLD ORIGINAL DONATION LOTS AS ONE LOT, AND TO DEDICATE A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY ALONG SECOND STREET.

THIS PLAT DOES COMPLY WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2024 FOR GALLEGOS PARK'S REDEVELOPMENT.

THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A MOTION BY JON.

MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING.

SEEING NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK, I MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE.

WE ARE CLOSED FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 25.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. I RECOMMEND ITEM NUMBER 25 FOR APPROVAL.

I HAVE A MOTION BY SEAN. SECOND. SECOND BY MICHAEL.

THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM NUMBER 26. SIGN VARIANCE NORTHFIELDS MULTIFAMILY BLOCK A LOT 5

[Public Hearing - Sign Variance: North Fields Multi-Family, Block A, Lot 5 (V26-0007)]

V26-0007, OWNERS NORTHFIELD INVESTMENT PARTNERS LP.

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GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. THE ITEM READ INTO THE RECORD IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO SECTION 701619 OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE FOR DEVELOPMENT SIGN DESTINATION SIGN WITHIN THE NORTHFIELDS MIXED DEVELOPMENT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN APPROVAL FOR AN INCREASE RADIUS DISTANCE FROM 3800FT TO 1100FT, ALLOWING QUALIFYING, OFFICE, RETAIL, RESTAURANT AND ENTERTAINMENT SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE FIELDS WEST DEVELOPMENT TO BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT OF 200000 SQUARE FEET OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION. THE SIGN ORDINANCE STATES THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL DETERMINE THAT REQUEST MEETS THREE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR CRITERIA ARE.

ARE AS FOLLOWS. WITH STAFF COMMENTS ON EACH OF THE CRITERIA.

ONE, THE PROPOSED SIGN SHALL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY VISIBILITY, SIZE, AND THE LIKE. STAFF COMMENT THE PROPOSED SIGN WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE SIGNS, HEIGHT AND MAXIMUM SIGN AREA COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

TWO, THE PROPOSED SIGN WOULD NOT WILL BE OF UNIQUE DESIGN AND CONFIGURATION.

STAFF COMMENT, THE PROPOSED SIGN IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT IN DESIGN AND CONFIGURATION, WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT SIGN APPROVED WITHIN THE MIX, WITHIN THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE LOCATED OFF DALLAS PARKWAY.

THE SIGN IS NOT UNIQUE DESIGN OR CONFIGURATION.

THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS NEEDED DUE TO RESTRICTED AREA SHAPED TOPOGRAPHY OR PHYSICAL FEATURES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY ON WHICH THE PROPOSED SIGN SHOULD WOULD BE ERECTED. STAFF COMMENT THE PROPOSED SIGN LOCATION IS WITHIN NORTHFIELDS SUBDIVISION SUBDISTRICT, WHICH IS PHYSICALLY SEPARATED FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BY BY THE PGA GOLF COURSE AND INTERVENING PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS SEPARATION CREATES A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT DISTINGUISHES THE PROPERTY FROM AREAS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

FOUR, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVES THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND WELFARE AND DOES NOT VIOLATE THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.

STAFF COMMENT, APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE WILL ENHANCE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND WELFARE BY IMPROVING WAYFINDING FOR VISITORS TRAVELING FROM THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THE SIGN WILL REDUCE CONFUSION AND IMPROVE WAYFINDING AND ASSIST IN DIRECTING TRAFFIC TO ITS INTENDED DESTINATION WHILE MAINTAINING THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE. STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED SIGN MEETS THE ORDINANCE.

THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO LOCATION, HEIGHT, AREA, PROXIMITY TO UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO THE NORTH AND SEPARATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY ZONE, WHICH IS OVER 1000FT. THE ONLY DEVIATION IS THE RADIUS DISTANCE.

GIVEN THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH EXCEEDS 2100 ACRES, AND THE FACT THAT PERMITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ISSUED FOR SHELF SPACE FOR MORE THAN 200,000FT² OF DEDICATED OFFICE, RETAIL, RESTAURANT ENTERTAINMENT USES WITHIN THE FIELDS, DEVELOPMENT STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT DESTINATION SIGN REGULATIONS AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY? I'LL START WITH QUESTIONS OR AFTER. BUT MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY JON. SECOND. SECOND BY SEAN.

MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 26.

SEEING NONE. MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A MOTION BY JON.

WE HAVE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO STAFF? IT'S A BIG OLD SIGN. THAT'S TRUE. AND I THINK THE THING IS THEY'RE APPROVED ON THE SIGN SIGNAGE.

IT WAS REALLY THE ONLY THING WAS THE DISTANCE.

YES THEY GO ON FROM THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE GOING FROM A REDUCTION FROM 38,800 TO 11 TO 11.

CORRECT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THAT. WHAT'S THE IMPLICATIONS OF INCREASING THIS.

THE DISTANCE THAT WE'RE CALCULATING FOR THE SIGNAGE.

THE IMPLICATIONS THAT NONE REALLY THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO USE THE WESTFIELDS DEVELOPMENT APPROVED PERMITS VERTICAL FOR VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT SIGN. OKAY.

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IF NOTHING I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 26 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

I HAVE A MOTION BY JON. SECOND. SECOND BY MICHAEL.

MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO, ITEM NUMBER 26. ITEM NUMBER 27.

[Public Hearing - Specific Use Permit: Highlands at Panther Creek Addition, Block A, Lot 14 (SUP26-0004)]

PUBLIC HEARING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. HIGHLANDS AT PANTHER CREEK, ADDITION BLOCK A LOT 14 SUP26-0004 FM423 25 ACRE PARTNERS, LLC. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THIS REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU ALL THIS EVENING TO RESCIND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT WAS GRANTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2024.

SO SINCE THAT APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE DECIDED TO GO TO ANOTHER, GO TOWARDS ANOTHER DIRECTION, AND NOT DO A CHILD CARE FACILITY HERE AND HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER REQUESTING TO RESCIND THE SUP AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO RESCIND SUP309 FOR A CHILD CARE FACILITY.

A MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE.

WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 27. SEEING NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY SEAN.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ANY COMMENTS? MOTION FOR STAFF? NUMBER 27. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 27 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY JON.

THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM NUMBER 28. PUBLIC HEARING ZONING SWC INDEPENDENCE AND MAIN

[Public Hearing - Zoning: SWC Independence & Main (Z25-0009)]

Z25-0009. OWNERS MAIN AND INDEPENDENCE FIVE LLC.

THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

SO THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 2025, WHICH YOU ALL RECOMMENDED A VOTE OF APPROVAL.

HOWEVER, AFTER THAT MEETING, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE ZONING SIGN.

AND SO WHEN THAT ITEM WENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 20TH, IT WAS REMANDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A VOTE.

SO DURING THAT MEETING, WHEN THIS ITEM WAS REMANDED BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE THE STAFF HAD COMMITTED TO ENCOURAGING THE PROPERTY OWNER TO HAVE AN HOA MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MEETING.

AND SO SINCE THAT TIME I'VE BEEN ON A SLEW OF EMAILS WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS REACHED OUT TO AT LEAST ONE HOA TO SCHEDULE THAT MEETING.

THEY WERE ABLE TO GET HAVE THAT MEETING SCHEDULED AND HELD THIS PAST WEEKEND ON JUNE 20TH AT 10 A.M..

I WAS LATER COPIED ON AN EMAIL THAT SENT THE FLIER OUT.

SO THAT MEETING WAS HELD. A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED WERE LIKEWISE, THAT WAS RAISED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT SPOKE TO THE TRAFFIC NOISE ACCIDENTS IN THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS PROVIDED AN OUTLINE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT ADDRESSES THAT THAT CONCERN. AND SO THIS EVENING, JUST TO WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE JUST A LITTLE BIT, THIS I, THIS PROJECT INITIALLY CAME BEFORE THE CITY IN 2023 WITH THE REQUEST FOR A STRAIGHT RETAIL ZONING.

AT THAT TIME, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FROM STAFF WAS FOR DENIAL.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR THAT ITEM BECAUSE THE USES WERE TOO BROAD IN TERMS OF WHAT IS ALLOWED IN THE RETAIL DISTRICT.

THAT STAFF FELT LIKE IT LEFT IT OPEN AND AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, WE WENT DOWN THE PATH OF NEGOTIATING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS PROPERTY OWNER.

THEY'VE WORKED WITH STAFF SINCE 2025 TO KIND OF GET HERE.

SO THIS HAS BEEN IN THE PIPELINE FOR A WHILE.

AND SO THIS EVENING OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL, AS IT WAS WHEN THE ITEM CAME TO YOU ALL IN DECEMBER. STAFF HAS NOT AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MADE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO ANY OF THE EXHIBITS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.

THE EXHIBITS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU ALL THIS EVENING IS THE EXHIBITS THAT HAS THAT CAME BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER.

ALL RIGHT. SO IN TERMS OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS RAISED WHEN WE WERE IN THE HOA MEETING,

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THEY SPOKE TO THE OPERATING HOURS AND THE NOISE.

THEY SPOKE TO PARKING IN THE FAUE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN FACT NOT ON THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. SO THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE WOULD PARK IN THIS LOCATION THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO PARK THERE. WE DO HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CONTENTS OF THE REPORT THAT SPOKE TO THE NUMBERS OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IN THE INTERSECTION AND THE COMPARISON THAT WAS DONE.

AND SO WE HAVE SINCE THAT JANUARY MEETING, WE HAVE RE NOTICED FOR THIS ITEM THE WE ENSURED THAT THE ZONING SIGNS THAT WERE ON THE PROPERTY BEAR THE CORRECT PROJECT NUMBER. WE ALSO SENT OUT PROPERTY NOTIFICATIONS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ONCE AGAIN.

WE DID SEND OUT THE EMAIL TO THE HOA'S WITHIN 1500FT.

SO WHEN THE PACKET WAS FINALED, WE HAD RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 21 PROJECT INPUT FORMS IN OPPOSITION.

OF THOSE OPPOSITIONS, ONLY THREE OF THEM FELL WITHIN THE 225FT NOTIFICATION BUFFER THAT WE ARE LEGALLY MANDATED TO SEND.

SINCE THAT TIME, SINCE THE AGENDA HAS BEEN FINALIZED, WE HAVE RECEIVED FOUR ADDITIONAL LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND FIVE IN SUPPORT, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TODAY.

AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, JUST LIKE WE DID IN DECEMBER WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT SMOKE SHOPS BE A PROHIBITED USE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WISH TO SPEAK? GO AHEAD. WE JUST ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD WHEN YOU'RE DONE, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.

DID YOU ALREADY FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD? YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

OKAY. SORRY. SO MY NAME IS SHIVA KHANDU. I'M AT 37841 SAROVAR TRAIL FRISCO.

AND THIS IS SAM, OUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FROM SPIRES.

SO, LIKE. ANDREA MENTIONED WE WERE HERE IN 2023 FOR A STRAIGHT RETAIL ZONING AT THAT TIME.

SOME CONCERN WAS HAVING A GAS STATION AT THE CORNER AND THE DRIVE THROUGH PAD SITES.

THAT WAS THE CONCERN. AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE TIME REQUESTED US TO WORK WITH THE STAFF AND GET THE PD, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FIVE ACRES, NOT 15 ACRES.

AND WE WORKED WITH STAFF VERY CLOSELY. AND WE HAVE AGREED TO ALL THE RESTRICTIONS LIKE NO DRIVE THRUS, NO AUTOMOTIVE USES, NO GAS STATIONS AND NO BIG BOX RETAIL.

AND ONLY QUALITY RETAIL USERS WILL GO THERE. AND WE ALSO AGREED FOR ENHANCED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THAT WILL INTEGRATE WITH THE PARK BECAUSE THE PARK IS WEST OF THIS SITE.

AND WE AGREED TO HAVE A SINGLE PHASE DEVELOPMENT LIKE SINGLE PHASE DEVELOPMENT, MEANING WE HAVE TO DEVELOP ALL OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN ONE PHASE, OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT GET THE SEWER. SO WHICH IS ALSO IN THE PART OF THE PD YOU CAN SEE IN THE PD PACKAGE.

AND WE AGREED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT VOLUNTARY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND WE ALSO SIGNED THE COVENANT RESTRICTION AGREEMENT.

AND WE BELIEVE THIS PD ENFORCE A VERY QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WILL BLEND INTO THE PARK. AND IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PD EXHIBITS, THE OTHER THING WE AGREED WITH THE STAFF WAS THE BUILDINGS WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE A CONTEMPORARY, WHAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY LOOK MUCH LIKE THE STRUCTURES INSIDE THE PARK.

THAT WAS ALSO SOMETHING PART OF THE PD AND WE AGREED TO IT.

EVEN THOUGH THE LOOK AND FEEL IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.

AND WE AGREED WITH THE STAFF, AND WE MADE SURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS, THEY LOOK LIKE PART OF THE PARK.

THEY ARE NOT LIKE A MODERN STRUCTURES YOU SEE EVERYWHERE ELSE.

SO STAFF SPEND LIKE HUNDREDS OF HOURS ON THIS ONE.

AND WE SPENT, OUR ENGINEERS SPENT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS TO GET WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS A, ONE OF THE QUALITY PRODUCT THAT STAFF AND WE ARE PROUD OF.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO WAIT FOR YOUR QUESTIONS OR OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

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MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A MOTION BY BY JON.

AYE. WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 28.

SEAN WOULD READ THE NAMES AND THEN WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS TODAY IN FAVOR AND SEVEN IN OPPOSITION.

THE FIRST TWO SPEAKERS WILL BE, I'LL READ THE FIRST NAME.

YOU CAN COME ON UP AND THE SECOND ONE JUST KIND OF YOU'LL BE ON DECK. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS VAMSI KODALI.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE SRIKANTH PRAPALI WILL BE SECOND.

AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS VAMSI. I LIVE IN FRISCO 10967 GRINDSTONE MANOR FRISCO, TEXAS ON 5035 FRISCO RESISTANT FROM 2018. NOT THAT FAR FROM THIS PROPERTY. LIKE AROUND LESS THAN TWO MILES.

AND I DO WORK FROM HOME AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO THE REASON I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT IS THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MY HOME TO START MY OWN BUSINESS, TO OPEN MY SMALL BUSINESS FIRMS HERE BECAUSE I WORK FROM HOME AND LOOKING TO MEET MY CLIENTS AT A GOOD OFFICE SPACE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK, AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME GOOD RESTAURANTS NEARBY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING BACK THERE, WE ALL CAN HEAR YOU UP HERE.

SO JUST RECOMMEND IF YOU GOT A PHONE CALL OR SOMETHING TO STEP OUT, PLEASE.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE SRIKANTH. AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE VALERIE MARTIN.

DE MARTIN. HI, MY NAME IS SRIKANTH. I LIVE AT FIVE EIGHT, SIX SEVEN ISLEWORTH DRIVE, FRISCO, TEXAS, 75035. I WENT THROUGH ALL THE PACKAGE, THE AGENDA ITEM, AND WE SEE THAT THIS THIS IS THE APT USE FOR THIS SITE.

LIKE A SMALL DEVELOPMENT, FIVE ACRES WITH A MORE RESTRICTED AND CITY LIKE THE DEVELOPER IS AGREEING TO ALL THE CITY CONDITIONS.

AND THIS IS. WE SUPPORT THIS. WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS MOST APT FOR THIS SITE.

WE THINK THIS IS THE MOST APT. LIKE WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TO OWN THIS SITE AND DON'T WANT OTHER USERS TO COME UP HERE LIKE WHICH WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL.

SO WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO NEXT UP IS THE OPPOSITION FOLKS. AND WE HAVE VALERIE DE MARTIN.

AND AFTER HER WILL BE JORDAN PUJOL. AS YOU COME UP TO SPEAK.

COULD YOU RAISE THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? HI, I'M VALERIE DE MARTIN.

I'M IN OPPOSITION OF NUMBER 28 BECAUSE. SORRY, WE JUST INTERRUPT.

WE ASKED EVERYONE NOT JUST THEIR NAME, BUT ALSO THEIR THE ADDRESS. OH YES.

I LIVE AT 8682 GERBERA DAISY ROAD IN FRISCO, AND I AM OPPOSED TO THIS BUILDING OF THE RETAIL SPACE BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT UP AGAINST A DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY IN THE GROVE.

AND THERE ARE HOUSES THAT LOOK RIGHT OVER INTO THAT AREA THERE, AND IT'S ALREADY BROUGHT A LOT OF CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC ALREADY AT THAT INTERSECTION.

I'VE HEARD A FEW ACCIDENTS FROM MY HOUSE AND I'M IN THE I'M IN PHASE NINE AND THAT IS PHASE TEN.

AND I JUST, I JUST FEEL THAT THAT SPACE IS NOT A VERY LARGE SPACE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BIG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GOING ON FOR RETAIL SPACE ON THE CORNER OF THE NORTH SIDE OF CUSTER AND MAIN AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF CUSTER MAIN, WHICH IS ALREADY ZONED FOR RETAIL.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT AS FAR AS IN DEVELOPMENT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SIGNAGE UP THERE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

SO THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO PUT THE RETAIL SPACE ON CUSTER IN MAIN ON BOTH THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY BUSY AREA. BUT THIS AREA IS MORE RESIDENTIAL AND IT ALSO HAS THE PARK.

AND I JUST FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE BETTER USE TO TO DO SOMETHING MORE NATURAL WITH THAT SPACE.

A COMMUNITY EXTEND THE COMMUNITY PARK, A WALKING PARK, GARDENS, SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES MORE RETAIL SPACE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF RETAIL SPACE. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE JORDAN PUJOL. AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE KIM STONE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. JORDAN PUJOL, I LIVE AT 14 604 WHIPPOORWILL LANE, FRISCO,

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TEXAS, 75035. GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT I COME TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL, NOT JUST AS A MEMBER OF THE GROVE, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IN THE OPEN END CUL DE SAC FACING THIS PROPERTY.

I AM ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF MULTIPLE MOTHERS ON OUR STREET WHO ARE CURRENTLY HOME, PUTTING THEIR CHILDREN IN BED AND COULD NOT BE HERE.

I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING, AS THE HOUSE LOCATED THE CLOSEST TO THIS PROPERTY OUT OF THE ENTIRE GROVE AREA, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION BY EMAIL, MAIL, PHONE OR IN PERSON REGARDING THE REZONING OF THIS LAND.

ADDITIONALLY, IN ORDER TO FIND OUT THAT A MEETING WAS BEING HELD, A PUBLIC MEETING WAS BEING HELD WITH ANY SURROUNDING AREAS, I HAD TO REACH OUT TO OUR HOA PERSONALLY, SPEAK TO THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

THAT THEN NOTIFIED ME THAT 48 HOURS LATER, ON JUNE 20TH, A HOLIDAY WEEKEND, THE BUILDERS WERE HOLDING A LAST MINUTE PUBLIC PUBLIC MEETING FOR INFORMATION, WHILE MULTIPLE SURROUNDING HOA MEMBERS, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ALL OUT OF TOWN, INCLUDING MYSELF. MYSELF, AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER FAMILY I'VE SPOKEN TO IN THIS AREA, ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE POSSIBLE REZONING OF THIS LAND FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE. MANY OF US, LIKE MYSELF, HAVE SPOKE OR SPENT OUR LIFE SAVINGS IN ORDER TO BUILD A DREAM HOME TO GROW OUR FAMILIES.

ONE OF THE GREATEST ASPECTS OF OUR STREET IS HAVING A CLOSED LOOP WITH LESS TRAFFIC IN ORDER TO LET ALL 20 OF THE CHILDREN THAT LIVE ON THE STREET RIDE BIKES, PLAY AND LEARN OUTSIDE, AS WELL AS A DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PARK THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS A FAMILY AREA THAT ALREADY HAS MULTIPLE AMAZING GROCERY STORES, RESTAURANTS, CHURCHES, NAIL SALONS, AS WELL AS OVER 15 CURRENTLY EMPTY RETAIL SPACES THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN RENTED WITHIN A MILE OF OUR HOMES.

NOT ONLY IS ADDING A COMMERCIAL SPACE NOT NEEDED IN THIS AREA, BUT IS COMPLETELY CHANGING THE ESTHETIC FEEL AND SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN FOR OUR CHILDREN.

SORRY. ON TOP OF THAT, IT WILL AFFECT PROPERTY VALUE, TRAFFIC, NOISE AND THE CHARACTER OF THE WHOLE AREA WHEN DRIVING AROUND FRISCO.

THERE'S NOT ONE CORNER THAT HAS HOUSES THAT IS DIRECTLY FACING A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, NOT ONE.

THERE ARE MANY BACKYARDS, BUT NEVER A FRONT YARD LIKE MINE WILL BE.

PICTURE WALKING YOUR KIDS OUTSIDE IN THE MORNING TO LOOK DIRECTLY AT A RESTAURANT, BAR, OR SMOKE SHOP IN A STRIP MALL THAT.

WHEN YOU SPENT OVER $1 MILLION TO LIVE IN A FAMILY FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD OR A BAR AND RESTAURANT WITH LIVE MUSIC PLAYING LATE AT NIGHT, LEADING RANDOM PEOPLE TO WALK DIRECTLY DOWN YOUR OPEN COURT.

WE WANT TO KEEP THIS AS A THRIVING FAMILY AREA THAT IS SAFE FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY AND GROW.

I KNOW TO THE BUILDERS THIS HAS SEEMED TO BE A LONG PROCESS.

I KNOW THEY MENTIONED A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT IF THEY CAN GIVE THE CITY MULTIPLE YEARS TO AGREE ON SOMETHING TO GO HERE, ALL WE ASK IS THAT THE CITY AND BUILDERS WORK WITH US FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO FULLY GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS BUILT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE IN THE AREA. I KNOW THAT COURTNEY FROM OUR HOA HAS ALREADY REACHED OUT ASKING FOR A NEW PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE BUILDER SO WE CAN HAVE PROPER NOTICE FOR RESIDENTS TO COME UNDERSTAND AND GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE ANYTHING FURTHER IS PASSED.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MEETING HAPPENING AND FULLY UNDERSTANDING HOW MY FAMILY AND OUR INVESTMENT WILL BE AFFECTED BEFORE THE CITY STARTS PUSHING FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT CAN DIRECTLY AFFECT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. I ASK THAT TODAY WE DISAPPROVE OR POSTPONE ANY DECISION BEING MADE REGARDING REZONING THIS AREA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS KIM STONE.

AND AFTER THAT WILL BE SILVA, SIVA SANKHOVAN. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS KIM STONE AND I LIVE AT 8452 REVERE LANE IN FRISCO 75035, WHICH IS THE LIBERTY CROSSING SUBDIVISION, WHICH I, WHEN I TURN RIGHT OUT OF MY SUBDIVISION, THIS WILL BE ON THE CORNER AT THE LIGHT.

SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS DRIVING HERE TODAY, IT TOOK ME ALMOST FIVE MINUTES TO TURN RIGHT OUT OF MY SUBDIVISION.

I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT IF THIS RETAIL SPACE IS THERE.

THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE. WE HAVE NO LIGHT THAT WE CAN USE TO GET OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION.

SO I REALLY AM CONCERNED. EVEN THOUGH I READ THE TRAFFIC AND WE WERE IN THE TOP 20 OF INTERSECTIONS WITH CRASHES, I REALLY SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THIS IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOES FORWARD.

I ALSO AM CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE PARK, THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND FRISCO, THERE ARE NO PARKS THAT HAVE A RETAIL SPACE DIRECTLY ADJACENT.

THEY MIGHT BE DOWN THE STREET, THEY MIGHT BE ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY IN THAT. AND I REALLY THINK IT GOES COUNTER TO WHAT FRISCO'S DEVELOPMENTAL VISION IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE THEIR PLANS GOING FORWARD.

AND I ALSO AM CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE IS A FRISCO ISD SPACE THAT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THAT.

AND THAT IS ALSO A KIND OF A CONCERN WHEN POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SPACE WILL HAPPEN.

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SO I REALLY, I, I ASK YOU TO REALLY CONSIDER DISAPPROVING THIS REZONING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT WE HAVE SILVA.

AND AFTER THAT WILL BE SRIKANTH AFTERWARDS.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SILVA SANKHOVAN..

I LIVE IN 14872 KEMP'S LANDING, FRISCO. I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT MAINLY BECAUSE OF FOUR REASONS.

AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT IN FRISCO, NONE OF THE COMMUNITY PARK.

NONE OF THE COMMUNITY PARK HAS RETAIL NEXT TO IT.

WHY WALKER'S PARK HAS TO HAVE THAT? NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO. DO YOU ALL AGREE THAT PEOPLE CALL EAST FRISCO, WHICH IS EAST OF PRESTON ROAD? WE. AS YOU. IF YOU NOTICED, YOU GUYS DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.

THE POPULATION IS GROWING. YOU KNOW, IN A STEADY PHASE, GIVEN THAT SCENARIO, THIS PARK, THE PARK DOESN'T HAVE ANY AMENITIES EXCEPT BASEBALL, DIAMOND AND SOCCER FIELD.

I KNOW IF YOU DO A QUICK SURVEY IN THIS ROOM, AT LEAST 60% OF THE PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN PICKLEBALL.

SO WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL AND OTHERS TO SEE TO EXTEND THIS PARK.

I WANT THE CITY TO SEE HOW THEY CAN WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SEE WHETHER THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, EXTEND THIS PARK TO HAVE MORE COURSE AMENITIES.

SECONDLY, THE SAFETY OF THE YOU KNOW, PARK USERS, CHURCH GOERS AND FRISCO ISD IN A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

I'M PRETTY SURE I THINK THE CITY OFFICIAL NEVER TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER THEY REACHED OUT TO THE FRISCO ISD TRUSTEES ABOUT THEIR COMMENTS AND ON THIS NEW REZONING.

SO I'M AFRAID IF THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED, THE FRISCO ISD MAY NOT EVEN DEVELOP ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE RETAIL NEXT TO IT. SO YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE THE FUTURE PLANS THEY HAVE THAT IS JEOPARDIZED NOW.

SO FOR THAT REASON ALSO, I WANT THE YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL.

AND I THINK THE CITY OFFICIALS TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF.

IF YOU SEE THE PACKET, IT TALKS ABOUT 21 OPPOSITION.

WHEN THEY FINALIZED THIS PACKET PLUS, OUT OF WHICH ONLY THEY CONSIDER THREE OPPOSITION VALID.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR THAT, BUT WHATEVER THE CRITERIA, CITY HAS TO QUALIFY THE OPPOSITION.

YOU CLEARLY KNOW THAT 21 OPPOSITION A FRIEND THEY SUBMITTED TOOK TIME AND SUBMIT THE THEIR CONCERN.

SO I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST THREE.

PROBABLY I'LL TALK TO THE. PROBABLY JON CAN EXPLAIN US WHAT KIND OF QUALIFICATION TO YOU GUYS.

AND SO THAT WE ALL KNOW HOW THEY QUALIFY THOSE OPPOSITION.

AND I THINK I TALKED ABOUT THE COMMENTS FROM THE ISD.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER JUST THIS FROM, FROM THE P&Z COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, RULES OR ANY PROCEDURE TO PUSH BACK THE CITY OFFICIALS TO DO GO AND GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE FRISCO ISD.

I KNOW PEOPLE. WHEN I REACH OUT TO THE CITY, I GOT THE ANSWER SAYING THAT TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES I NEED TO REALLY REACH OUT TO THE ISD, BUT I DID. I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE BACK FROM THE TRUSTEES.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER BECAUSE FRISCO ISD ALREADY LOSING, YOU KNOW, ENROLLMENT AND PROBABLY I THINK THEY DEFINITELY I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY REALLY KNOW THIS REZONING HAPPENING.

SO I WANT AT LEAST FROM THIS COMMISSION TO REQUEST THE CITY OFFICIALS TO GET THE FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT UP WE HAVE SRIKANTH.

AND AFTER THAT WILL BE CASCU SHEILA. ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS SRIKANTH BHIMA. I LIVE AT 14675 WHIPPOORWILL LANE, FRISCO.

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I AM A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY.

I CAN LITERALLY SEE IT THE WAY THE. THIS IS THE SOUTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET.

THE GROVE. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE LIVE. THE BUILDERS DID NOT PUT ANYTHING LIKE A PHYSICAL BARRIER.

THERE IS NO WALL THERE. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TREES THERE.

I CAN SEE THE PROPERTY. THE NOISE LEVELS ARE ALREADY PRETTY HIGH.

YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF HONKING FROM WHERE WE LIVE, EVEN FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.

AND TAKING A LEFT TURN ONTO MAIN STREET FROM WHERE WE LIVE IS ALREADY A NIGHTMARE.

SO I THINK IF YOU GO DOWN THIS PATH OF ALLOWING A RETAIL CENTER TO BE IN THAT VICINITY IS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE HARDER ON ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORING AREAS.

TRAFFIC IS BAD. NOISE LEVELS ARE BAD. HAVING ANY RETAIL CENTERS JUST GOING TO ALTER THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, A BEAUTIFUL PARK. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A CHURCH, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.

MY KIDS LITERALLY WALK OVER RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND GO TO THE PARK AND HAVING RETAIL CENTER IN THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GOING TO DISTURB THE PEACE AND QUIET OF THE AREA.

SO I REQUEST THE COMMISSION TO TO DISAPPROVE THIS PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT IS CASCU SHEILA AND THE LAST ONE WILL BE VANU.

JUST IN CASE, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK, PLEASE GRAB A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND FILL IT OUT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS CASCU SHEILA RAO. I LIVE IN 14699 WHIPPOORWILL LANE, FRISCO, TEXAS 75035. SO I MEAN, I'M IN SUPPORT WITH THE OTHER SPEAKERS OF MINE IN GOING AGAINST THIS RETAIL SPACE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POINTS I'LL JUST QUICKLY COVER. ONE IS THE SAFETY, SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL BABIES AND KIDS AND LITERALLY YOU, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL PLAY AROUND THAT CUL DE SAC.

THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO HAVE ANY OPPOSITE SIDE.

IT'S NOT A PLACE TO HAVE RETAIL. IT'S NOT A PLACE TO HAVE RETAIL.

AND THEN THERE IS ENOUGH RETAIL ALL AROUND THE PLACE.

AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IT. THE CUSTER AND THE AND THE MAIN STREET, ALL THE FOUR AREAS ARE RETAIL AS LONG.

IF YOU GO ALONG THE MAIN STREET ON THE SIDE, THERE'S ENOUGH RETAIL.

THIS WILL STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB AND THERE'S A NICE BEAUTIFUL PARK.

EXTEND THE PARK AND THAT WILL BE SAFE FOR THE CHILDREN AS WELL AS FOR THE ALL THE FAMILIES.

ALSO OUR PROPERTY VALUE. THIS HAS COME OUT OF OUR SAVINGS.

IT'S. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE ANYWHERE FROM 1.2 TO 1.8 MILLION USD.

AS SOON AS THIS RETAIL WILL COME, I'M GUARANTEEING THAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY VALUE WILL FALL.

THE LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, HAVE YOU TAKEN A TRIP TO THIS PLACE? HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SEEN WHERE IT IS COMING AND HOW ACROSS THE HOUSE IS THERE? HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SEEN? YOU WILL IF YOU PUT YOUR HAND ON YOUR HEART AND SAY, HEY, IF MY IF I HAVE A HOUSE HERE, I WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY RETAIL COMING ACROSS. SIMPLE AS THAT.

IT DOESN'T NEED SO MUCH OF USE IT FOR, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A NICE EXTRA IN THE PARK EITHER, YOU KNOW, HAVE OTHER FACILITIES, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT HAVE ANY RETAIL THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE VANU.

HI, MY NAME IS VANU. I LIVE AT 14805 GERMANTOWN LANE, FRISCO.

THIS IS LIBERTY CROSSING WHICH IS ACROSS THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.

RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND EITHER GIVING THEIR TRUE FEEDBACK.

RIGHT. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THAT PLACE, SEE THE JUNCTION.

HOW MANY ACCIDENTS ARE HAPPENING RECENTLY? THERE WERE, LIKE, FOUR CAR ACCIDENTS.

CARS TURNING UPSIDE DOWN. ANYONE PASSING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL DEFINITELY SAY SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

SAFETY FIRST. RIGHT. IF NOBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SAFETY.

RIGHT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BECOME INTO A COMMERCIAL ZONE WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN TURN RIGHT OR LEFT.

YOU KNOW, FORGET ABOUT, LIKE, LIVING FOR LONGER, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, I OPPOSE THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? VERY SIMPLE. RIGHT? YOU YOU COME HERE FOR EXPECTATION THAT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE MORE RESIDENTIAL,

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MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY, SAFER FOR KIDS. KIDS NEED TO KNOW THAT.

OKAY, I PLAYED IN THIS PARK, AND THIS IS WHAT MY LIFE WOULD LOOK LIKE EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY PASSED BY.

RIGHT? IF NOBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE ASPECTS AND KEEP ON BUILDING COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS NOT REALLY REQUIRED.

RIGHT. THE FRISCO ESTHETICS WILL CHANGE, RIGHT? IT'S I REQUEST THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE COMMISSIONER TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE GROWTH OF FRISCO FUTURE OF FRISCO.

RIGHT. AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE THIS COMMERCIAL POP UPS COMING EVERYWHERE.

IF SOMEBODY PUTS A BOARD EVEN BEFORE THE ZONING HAS APPROVED, SAYING THERE IS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT AND A BAR, AND THAT TRIGGERS SAYING THAT, OKAY, THERE MAY BE SMOKE SHOPS COMING UP OR SOME SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME LIKE A DRIVE THROUGH.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEING ALLOWED, WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED BEING THE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS WHO ARE NEXT TO THE PROPERTY.

WE ARE FEELING LIKE THIS. IMAGINE SOMEBODY COMING FROM A DIFFERENT STATE OR A CITY, RIGHT? WHAT FEELING THEY WILL HAVE LOOKING AT THIS, RIGHT? SO PLEASE FOLLOW DUE DILIGENCE, FOLLOW THE PROTOCOL.

DON'T GIVE LIKE LIKE A THREE DAYS TIMELINE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING IS ON 20TH AND 23RD.

YOU SHOW UP FOR THE COUNCIL AND OPPOSE, RIGHT? GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME, FOLLOW DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN SEE, YOU KNOW IF REALLY FRISCO CITY COUNCIL DECIDES THAT SAYING THE PARK NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED, WHAT IT TAKES FROM THE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, PUT IT INTO OUR BALLOTS OR WHATEVER CHANNELS YOU HAVE, RIGHT? MAYBE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE WILL COME FORWARD, YOU KNOW, EITHER CITY CAN BUY BACK THE PROPERTY OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GIVE THE SUGGESTIONS, WHICH WILL HELP THE COMMUNITIES AROUND.

OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK THAT HAVEN'T SPOKE ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY JON. SECOND. SECOND BY SEAN.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ANY COMMENTS FOR STAFF? I'LL BE HONEST. I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE LONG WINDED, BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO BEFORE ME, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP AHEAD. GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO I'LL SAY THIS TO YOU.

I HAVE I RAISED TWO BOYS. I COACHED LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL.

I WAS AT BACCHUS PARK ALL THE TIME, AND I WISHED THERE WAS SOMETHING CLOSE BY WHEN THE WHEN PRACTICE WAS OVER.

WHEN GAMES WAS OVER. THAT WAS CONVENIENT TO GO GET SOMETHING TO DRINK, SOMETHING TO EAT WITH ALL WITH ALL OF THOSE KIDS.

I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THAT CORNER AT THAT TIME.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC. ANYONE WANT TO GO BEFORE ME OR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT COMES OUT.

WE DO TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUS AND READ THROUGH ALL THOSE COMMENTS AND ACTUALLY APPRECIATE LIKE I SAY, WE GOT THOSE 21 LETTERS, MOST COPY AND PASTE, BUT IT WAS EMPHASIZING THE THINGS THAT THERE WAS CONCERNS OF.

BUT GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND. I JUST MOVED TWO YEARS AGO.

I USED TO LIVE AT THAT EXACT CORNER, AS IT STATES AT CHATEAU PARK.

SO I LIVED WALKING DISTANCE. THAT'S JUST RIGHT.

JUST NORTH OF IT. THERE'S A LITTLE THING THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OWNS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.

I LIVED IN THAT AND HAVE DRIVEN ALL THOSE STREETS.

WHILE LIVING THERE I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE A RETAIL CENTER, BUT WE'LL COME FULL CIRCLE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY, OR IS IT BEING RECOMMENDED WITH A SMOKE SHOP OR HAS THAT JUST BEEN ADDED THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT? NO, NO NO, WE ARE PROHIBITING.

OKAY. THE SMOKE SHOP. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD SAY I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORT THAT AT ALL.

NO NO NO. SO WHEN THE ITEM CAME IN DECEMBER, WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE ENDEAVOR OF UPDATING THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT SMOKE SHOPS AND HAD IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE WITH CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF WHERE IT COULD OCCUR, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 1000FT FROM RESIDENTIAL.

GOOD. OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY DO.

IF THIS WERE APPROVED TONIGHT, NO SMOKE SHOPS WOULD BE ALLOWED AT THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS GREAT.

AS THEY MENTIONED, THIS CAME BEFORE US THREE YEARS AGO.

AND SO WHEN IT CAME FORWARD THREE YEARS AGO, THEY WANTED WHAT WE CALL AS A STRAIGHT ZONING THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. JUST SAYING. WE MAY OR MAY NOT PUT A GAS STATION, WE MAY DO A COMMERCIAL, BUT IT MIGHT BE AN OFFICE.

AND WE AS A COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE NOT OKAY WITH THAT.

WE DIDN'T LIKE HAVING TOO MUCH FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY A GAS STATION.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD CORNER FOR A GAS STATION.

AND SO WE SAT UP HERE AND WE TOLD THEM NO. AND WE SAID WE WANT TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IT'S STILL THE SAME OWNER. AND THEY'VE COME BACK AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH OUR CITY STAFF. AND A LOT OF YOU, THIS MAY BE NEW OF WE DO THIS REGULARLY, BUT IT'S A VERY VIGOROUS PROCESS. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN A WEEK OR EVEN IN A MONTH.

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THIS GOES OVER SIX, PROBABLY EVEN A YEAR AS THE STAFF GO THROUGH AND KIND OF VET THIS, THIS PROPERTY OUT, MAKING SURE OPEN SPACE, MAKING SIDEWALKS WORK, MAKE SURE THE PARKING WORKS, MEETING WITH TRAFFIC PARK FIRE, ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE A PART OF THIS TO GET TO BEFORE YOU ALL, INCLUDING US EVEN GET TO SEE THIS.

AND SO WHEN, WHEN STAFF PUT THAT MUCH TIME INTO IT, THAT DOES WEIGH ON US.

AND THEN, BUT THEN ALSO WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS. SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE.

AND WHEN I SAY NO PARTICULAR ORDER, THE TOP TWO I ALWAYS SAY IS SAFETY AND HOME VALUES.

AFTER THAT, THERE'S NO ORDER OF PRIORITY TO ME.

BUT THOSE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME. SO IF WE JUST START WITH SAFETY SAFETY, I DON'T SEE A CONCERN HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS STILL IS A SIX LANE ROAD BY A SIX LANE ROAD.

THIS IS A MAJOR ROAD. AND IT WAS PREPPED THAT WAY FOR GROWTH IN THIS AREA.

BEFORE THE GROVE WAS EVEN THERE, WE WERE PREPARING FOR THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA.

KNOWING THAT THE BOTH THE EAST SIDES ARE RESIDENTIAL, THE NORTH IS OWNED BY A CATHOLIC COMMUNITY.

AND THEN KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE COMMERCIAL CORNER REALLY MITIGATES THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC WE'D HAVE ALONG HERE.

AND AS WE GO UP AND DOWN INDEPENDENCE, THERE'S ONLY ONE CORNER OF COMMERCIAL ON THE ON THE EL DORADO AND INDEPENDENCE CORRIDOR.

AND THEN WHEN WE GO SOUTH DOWN TO WALTER AND INDEPENDENCE, WE HAVE ONE COMMERCIAL CORNER WITH THE 7-ELEVEN BEHIND IT.

AND THE NORTH MAY BE THAT THERE'S VERY. GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.

THERE'S VERY MINIMAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.

AND SO, YES, AS YOU GO TO MAIN STREET, THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEING BUILT.

AND WE REALIZE THAT. SAFETY, CHILDREN IS I DON'T THINK THE COMMERCIAL IS THE CONCERN.

IT'S THE SIX LANE ROAD IS THE CONCERN. WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT NO SPEAKING.

SORRY, NO SPEAKING. JUST WE GAVE HER A CHANCE.

SO MY JOB IS JUST TO SHARE MY, MY THOUGHTS AND AND THEN AND THEN YOU'LL AGAIN, IF IT IS APPROVED OR DENIED, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT CITY COUNCIL. HOME VALUES.

LIVING RIGHT THERE. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL AT THIS CORNER.

I FEEL STRONGLY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT, LIKE YOU SAY, YOU'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY IS YOUR HOME VALUES DON'T GO DOWN.

I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR TEN YEARS. WE HAVE BUILT A SELF STORAGE AND PEOPLE SAID THEIR HOME VALUES WOULD GO DOWN AND THEIR HOME VALUES WENT UP.

WE'VE BUILT IN COMMERCIAL THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND HOME VALUES HAVE GONE UP.

I JUST PERSONALLY, WITH THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE AND KNOWING THAT THE DEVELOPER SIGNED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE HIGH STANDARDS OF FRISCO.

I FEEL EXTREMELY CONFIDENT THAT HOME VALUES DON'T GO DOWN, AND THAT'S OKAY TO FEEL DIFFERENT WITH REGARDS TO I'LL GO AND I WANT TO GO OVER.

THE MAIN EMAIL THAT I GOT. THERE WAS FIVE POINTS IN CAPABLE WITH SURROUNDING USES.

I MEAN, IT'S AT A CORNER. THOSE ARE THE USES YOU WANT.

A PARK, THE REASON WHY A PARK WOULDN'T BE IDEAL.

YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT A PARK AT A, WE CALL IT A HARD CORNER, AT A SIX LANE AND A SIX LANE ROAD.

THAT'S NOT A GOOD USE TO TO A PARK. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, WE WOULDN'T WANT THE CHILDREN PLAYING AT THE CORNER OF A SIX LANE AND SIX LANE ROAD. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING, YOU TALK ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES. WHAT COULD HURT IT IS IF THE CITY WERE TO START BUYING HARD CORNERS, BECAUSE WE USUALLY LIKE OUR PARKLAND AND FLOODPLAIN OR MORE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU USUALLY GET THE LAND LESS EXPENSIVE.

AND SO IF THE CITY HAD TO PAY 5 OR 10 TIMES X FOR A PARK AT A HARD CORNER, THE CITY WOULD PAY THAT MONEY AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CITY, IT'S US AS TAXPAYERS THAT ARE PAYING THAT. AND SO THAT COULD MOST DEFINITELY HURT US IF WE START BUYING REALLY EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE FOR, FOR PARKS AND NOT GETTING AS MUCH OF AN ROI ON THAT.

SO THAT I INCOMPATIBLE, I THINK THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE FOR THIS CORNER TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS WE TOUCHED ON.

I, I CAN HAVE JOEL IF NEEDED, BUT I, WE, WE SAT DOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

THIS TRAFFIC WAS WAS ADDRESSED FOR THIS GROWTH AND THE GROWTH OF THE GROVE IN PLACE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

THAT IS AN OPINION. I'M NOT ASKING YOU THAT YOUR OPINION IS WRONG, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, AS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS MENTIONED, HE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE ONE UP THERE. WHEN I WAS LIVING ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN FOR SEVEN YEARS, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON THE HARD CORNER FOR TWO AND A HALF, I WOULD ME, I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT.

MY NEIGHBORS WERE ASKING ME. THEY KNEW I WAS ON THE COMMISSION BACK THEN. JON, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET COMMERCIAL ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN? SO IS THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE OPPOSED TO IT. THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE, ARE ACTUALLY REQUESTING COMMERCIAL ON THIS, NOT SMOKE SHOPS, WHICH WILL BE PROHIBITED, BUT THERE IS A DEMAND AND THE DEVELOPERS TAKING THE RISK HE'S WILLING TO GO SPEND PROBABLY CLOSE TO, WE'LL CALL IT EIGHT FIGURES, NOT ONLY BUY THE LAND TO DEVELOP IT.

IF IT FAILS, IT'S HIS FAILURE. I WOULD TELL YOU, IF HE'S WILLING TO SPEND THAT TYPE OF MONEY, HE BELIEVES THERE'S A MARKET FOR RETAIL IN THAT AREA.

POTENTIAL IMPACT OF PROPERTY VALUES WE TOUCHED ON.

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LACK OF DEMONSTRATED NEED, THE MARKET KIND OF DECIDES THAT DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BUILD IT IF THEY DIDN'T THINK SOMEONE WOULD COME. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT SOMEONE MENTIONED THERE'S ALREADY EMPTY BUILDINGS WITH THE CITY. WE ALWAYS HEAR LIKE, WHY DON'T WE GET MORE OFFICES HERE? AND THEY TELL US, BUILD THE OFFICE FIRST AND THEN THEY'LL COME.

WELL, WE WANT THESE CERTAIN TYPE OF RETAIL. WE GOT TO BUILD THE RETAIL AND THEN THEY COME.

A LOT OF TIMES WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL SHELF SPACE.

AND THEN AS THAT IT HAS TO SIT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN THEY COME KNOWING THAT IT'S FINISHED.

A DENTIST DOESN'T WANT TO COME AND JUST WAIT TWO YEARS FOR HIS BUILDING TO BE BUILT.

HE WANTS TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A SHELL THERE. HE MOVES INTO TOWN IN SIX MONTHS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO COME THERE OR A RESTAURANT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SOMETIMES SEE THAT TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I LOVE THAT IT'S ONE PHASE DEVELOPMENT REQUIRING THEM TO BUILD EVERYTHING UP FRONT.

CAR ACCIDENTS. THIS ONE STUCK OUT TO ME. I LIVED ON THAT SIDE AND I WOULD NOT DISAGREE.

THERE WERE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS UP AND DOWN INDEPENDENCE.

AND WHAT'S INTERESTING, I THINK I ASKED JOEL, IT'S RIGHT AROUND NUMBER 20, BUSIEST INTERSECTION.

I JUST MOVED TWO YEARS AGO TO THIS, I THINK SECOND BUSIEST INTERSECTION IN FRISCO AND TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IS ACTUALLY DRASTICALLY LESS.

AND SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE ONE THAT HAS THE SECOND BUSIEST INTERSECTION HAS VERY LITTLE ACCIDENTS AND THIS ONE HAS A LOT MORE.

IT SOMETIMES IS A SENSE OF DRIVING. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS OVER THERE, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVING GREAT DRIVING SKILLS.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS A CAUSE OF IT, BUT THAT WAS JUST A FACTUAL THING IS, I'M IN A BUSY INTERSECTION AND WE'RE NOT HAVING ACCIDENTS AND LESS ONE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT PUTTING SIGNALS ON, NOT MAKING CORRECT TURNS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.

AND IT WAS THERE WERE MORE ACCIDENTS IN A LESS CONGESTED AREA.

MAYBE ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I'LL MENTION, ONE OF MY VERY FIRST CASES TEN YEARS AGO WAS A VERY SIMILAR TO THIS AND HAD THE SAME CONCERNS OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS MENTIONED. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, THAT CASE WAS CALLED THE GROVE.

AND SO WHEN WE HAD THAT CASE, PEOPLE WERE SAYING, DO WE REALLY NEED MORE HOUSING? DO WE REALLY NEED MORE COMMERCIAL HERE AT CUSTARD AND MAIN? THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. AND I VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT AND I'M GLAD I VOTED YES, BECAUSE TODAY YOU ALL ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT THERE WAS A TIME THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT THE GROVE FOR ALMOST THE EXACT SAME REASONS THAT WERE MENTIONED TONIGHT.

AND SO I DON'T WANT TO ALWAYS SHUT THE DOOR BEHIND THE NEXT PERSON.

I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. I'VE GOT COMMENTS. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE SOMETHING UNIQUE OR.

OKAY. I'LL CONCUR A LOT WITH WHAT WITH WHAT JON JUST SAID.

AS FAR AS THIS BEING A SMALL, SMALL RETAIL SITE ON THIS CORNER.

I WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED IF I LIVED THERE. AND I LIVE BY A LOT OF COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW.

IT'S SO SMALL. I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND.

QUIT TALKING PLEASE. SORRY STEVE. I'M SORRY. SORRY, STEVE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IF Y'ALL NEED TO TALK, YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE AND TALK.

YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE THE ACOUSTICS IN HERE ARE DESIGNED FOR A CONCERT, AND SO YOU CAN WHISPER TO EACH OTHER FROM AROUND THE ROOM, AND IT JUST CARRIES OVER TO EACH OTHER. SO I THINK SOME OF US HAVE LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY OVER THE YEARS. SO ANYWAY, I THINK, I THINK STAFF'S DONE A GREAT JOB TRYING TO MITIGATE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THIS CORNER, A SMALL AMOUNT OF RETAIL COMPATIBLE WITH THE PARK.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT JON DIDN'T ADDRESS, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE CUL DE SAC ACROSS THE STREET, I'M A LITTLE PUZZLED BY THAT BECAUSE IT IS ACROSS A SIX LANE THOROUGHFARE.

AND SO IF THIS WAS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A CUL DE SAC, I, I COULD SEE THE CONCERN OF WE'VE HAD PEOPLE BEFORE THAT WERE WORRIED ABOUT CARS LITERALLY PULLING OUT OF THEIR PARKING SPACE AT A RETAIL AND IMMEDIATELY TURNING INTO A CUL DE SAC AND IMMEDIATELY TURNING ONTO RESIDENTIAL STREET.

SO I'M A LITTLE PUZZLED BY THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE GREAT VIEW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FROM ACROSS THE STREET THERE. I DID LOOK AROUND TOWN TO TRY TO FIND, AND I WILL AGREE THAT THERE'S. IT'S VERY RARE THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING COMMERCIAL OR SEEING COMMERCIAL FROM THEIR THEIR FRONT YARDS.

BUT I DID FIND AT LEAST A HALF DOZEN DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND TOWN WHERE IF YOU WERE STANDING ON THE FRONT PORCH OR STANDING IN THE FRONT YARD, THEY'RE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT COMMERCIAL. NOW, WHICH CAME FIRST, THE COMMERCIAL OR THE THE HOUSING? I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, CHECK THAT TO SEE. SO I UNDERSTAND LOSING THE VIEW CORRIDOR YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S A GREAT THERE'S A GREAT TREE LINE THAT WAS PRESERVED WHEN THE ROAD WAS FIRST WIDENED, BUT IT DOESN'T EXTEND ALL THE WAY NORTH UP TO ALL THE WAY UP TO MAIN STREET.

I WISH IT DID, BECAUSE IF THAT, IF THAT NATURAL TREE LINE WAS STILL THERE TODAY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'D BE HAVING MUCH CONCERN ABOUT THE VIEW CORRIDOR THERE.

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SO THOSE ARE JUST MY MY GENERAL COMMENTS THERE.

MY CONCERN IS GOING TO BE MORE INTERNAL. THIS IS MORE OF A STAFF.

COUPLE OF STAFF QUESTIONS HERE. I'M REALLY HUNG UP ON THE IDEA OF HAVING A PARK NEXT DOOR, WHERE I HOPE THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN FINDING TENANTS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE PARK AND WHERE WARREN AND HIS BOYS AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN LITERALLY WALK OVER, RIDE THEIR BIKES OVER, RIDE THEIR SCOOTERS OVER TO GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PARK.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LAYOUT OF THIS SITE RIGHT NOW, AND TO ME, IT DOES FEEL LIKE THE WE'RE INCREASING THE THE POTENTIAL RISK TO SMALL KIDS, FAMILIES. ANYBODY THAT CHOOSES TO COME TO THE PARK FROM THE NORTH SIDE, THERE DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A GREAT PATH TO TAKE.

AND I DO WISH THAT THE DEVELOPER AND STAFF HAD FOUND A WAY TO TIE IN BETTER TO THE PARK ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OVER THERE OFF OF MAIN STREET.

MY SECOND CONCERN WOULD BE COMING FROM THE, FROM THE PARK OR FROM THE FIELDS DIRECTLY INTO THE SITE.

AGAIN, A GREAT JOB WITH THE OPEN SPACE THERE AND I THINK THE NATURAL TENDENCY WOULD BE IF I WAS A FAMILY WITH KIDS AT THE SOCCER FIELDS THERE, I WANT TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THAT OPEN SPACE. I WANT TO GO STRAIGHT ACROSS TO THE ICE CREAM SHOP OR WHATEVER OPENS UP THERE.

AND THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT RIGHT NOW, I, I JUST AM PICTURING A LOT OF KIDS AND FAMILIES AND ALL OF THEM WALKING, SCOOTERING, BIKING, ROLLING, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, IN THE DRIVE AISLES AND MIXING THEM WITH CARS.

SO MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS PEDESTRIANS AND YOUNG KIDS AND PEOPLE INTERACTING BETWEEN THE PARK AND EVEN A POTENTIAL SCHOOL DOWN TO THE SOUTH OF THAT EVER GOT BUILT THERE. THAT IS MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN THAT GIVES ME PAUSE WITH THIS SITE IS THE CURRENT I SEE IT TRULY, HONESTLY, AS A, AS AN INCREASED RISK. AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE KIND OF LIGHT BULB MOMENTS WHEN THAT HIT ME.

MY QUESTION REALLY BECAME, HOW WOULD I FEEL IF THIS BECOMES A VERY POPULAR RETAIL CORNER? LOTS OF KIDS COMING AND GOING FROM THE PARK AND WE START HAVING TROUBLE BETWEEN CARS.

KIDS ON BIKES, ETC.. SO I DID WANT TO ASK JOEL A QUESTION.

SO JOEL ON THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE UP THERE COMING OFF OF MAIN STREET THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES AND PLACES WHERE WE REQUIRE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND RESTAURANTS AND STUFF TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM THE SIDEWALK ALONG A STREET LIKE MAIN STREET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO LIKE, SAY BUILDING NUMBER ONE THERE ON THE NORTH. AND SO MY CONCERN IS I'M JUST PICTURING KIDS AND FAMILIES ON, ON THE SIDEWALK ALONG MAIN STREET AND THEIR FIRST PHYSICAL PLACE.

I GUESS THEY COULD CUT THROUGH THE GRASS, ACROSS THE FIELDS AND CUT INTO THE PARKING LOT. BUT THEY ALSO THEN THE REALLY THE FIRST PLACE THEY COULD ENTER INTO THE BUILDING TO GET TO TO GET TO BUILDING ONE WOULD BE THE DRIVE AISLE THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY AT ALL TO MITIGATE THAT TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TURNING RIGHT OFF OF MAIN STREET INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT IN A CONFLICT WITH PEDESTRIANS TRYING TO GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE NORTH.

SO LET'S SEE, I'M NOT USED TO DRAWING ON THIS.

SEE THIS SIDEWALK CONNECT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT.

HOPEFULLY THEY CAN REMOVE THAT NICE BLOB. THERE WE GO.

THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTION WAS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS OF LIKE, WHAT'S THE BEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM THE PARK FOR ANY ACTIVITY TO THEN GO INTO RETAIL? AND SO THIS FIRE LANE ON THE SOUTH IS THE ONE THAT GOES INTO THE PARK.

PEOPLE ARE USED TO USING THAT TO GO TO THE PARK AND PARK ALONG IT AND ACCESS THE PARK FACILITIES AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT MADE SENSE TO BE THAT'S THE LOCATION WHERE THERE'D BE A GOOD CONNECTION IF YOU'RE GOING TO, IF YOU'RE AT THE PARK AND YOU WANT TO WALK TO THE RETAIL, YOU WOULDN'T BE YOU WOULDN'T BE NEAR MAIN STREET AT ALL. YOU'D BE DOWN ON THE SOUTH ADJACENT TO THE PARK. THAT WAS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS THERE TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF LATE TO COME TO THIS REALLY THIS EPIPHANY, BECAUSE I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT EXTENSION DOWN THERE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS HAVING TO GO OUT OF HIS WAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE RESIDENTS REALIZE THAT, BUT HE'S HE'S HAVING TO GO AND GET AN ACCESS EASEMENT FROM THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT THAT GREAT CONNECTION DOWN THERE ON THE SOUTH. YES. THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT, THOUGH, THE REALITY IS WE CAN TELL PEOPLE, KIDS, FAMILIES, HEY, GO, GO DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND USE THAT SIDEWALK.

BUT WE KNOW HOW HUMAN NATURE IS. I THINK WHAT'S THAT? SHORTEST DISTANCES. SO I KNOW FROM THE FIELDS THERE, HAVING HAD MY KIDS PLAY SPORTS AND BEEN ON ENOUGH FIELDS THERE, YOU DON'T STOP AND THINK,

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WHERE'S THE CLOSEST SIDEWALK? YOU JUST LOOK AND SEE WHERE'S THE CLOSEST ICE CREAM PLACE PLACE I CAN GET A DRINK OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, AND YOU JUST KIND OF MAKE A BEELINE FOR THAT.

SO MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN WOULD BE THE OPEN SPACE IS VERY ATTRACTIVE, VERY WELL DONE, VERY APPEALING.

AND I REALLY CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE FIELDS NOT WALKING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE PARKING LOT PARKING AISLE TO THAT OPEN SPACE.

IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE THEM GOING DOWN TO THE SOUTH. AND THE SAME THING IF YOU'RE PLAYING SOCCER OR DOING WHATEVER SPORT UP ON THE NORTH SEEMS REALLY APPEALING.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INTO BUILDING NUMBER ONE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO GO IN CLOSER TO THAT NORTHWEST CORNER THAN TO GO SOUTH AND CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OR GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SIDEWALK.

MY LAST COMMENT, JOEL, ON THAT IS THAT ALONG MAIN STREET, IF YOU LOOK IN FRONT OF THE PARK, WE, THE CITY DID AN AMAZING JOB. I COULD SEE HAVING MY YOUNG KIDS PLAYING IN THAT PARK AND FEELING FREE TO LET THEM RIDE THEIR BIKES, THEIR SCOOTERS, ALL OVER THE PARK, EVEN OUT NEXT TO MAIN STREET.

IT'S SO WELL DONE BY THE CITY THAT IF MY, MY LITTLE KIDS WOULD EVER WANTED TO RIDE THEIR BIKES CLOSER TO MAIN STREET.

IT'S SO WELL DESIGNED I WOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

THE SECOND THE KID LEAVES THE CITY AREA, THE PARK AREA, THEY SUDDENLY ARE NOW NEXT VERY CLOSE TO MAIN STREET.

SO THE KID IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THERE IN THE PARK. THEY'RE IN THE SAFE AREA, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WANT TO GO NEXT DOOR TO THIS RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AND SUDDENLY IT BECOMES A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION FOR THEM.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE PREEXISTING SIDEWALKS, RIGHT, THAT WE PUT IN WAY BACK WHEN FOR, FOR CONVENIENCE, NOT FOR SAFETY OR ESTHETICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE JUST PUT IT IN BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING, SOMETHING THERE. SO JUST FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD MAKE THIS LAYOUT SAFER OR CREATE SOME MORE COMFORT WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. ONE THING I WANT TO CLEAR UP, WHEN YOU MENTIONED SAFETY OF SIDEWALKS, THE SIDEWALKS THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED DO MEET OUR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT. THEY DO? YES, I UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT AND IT DOES MEET THAT. AND ONE THING ABOUT THE PARK ALONG THE PARK, THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE PARK IS THAT IT'S ALL CITY PROPERTY.

SO WE COULD MEANDER AS FAR INTO OUR PROPERTY AS WE WANTED.

AND IT WASN'T INFRINGING OR TAKING AWAY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPABLE SPACE, WHEREAS WE CAN'T REQUIRE ANY DEVELOPMENT ANYWHERE TO HAVE MORE, GIVE UP MORE FOR THE SIDEWALK THAN OUR STANDARDS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A TAKING.

AND SO WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE MORE SPACE FROM THE ROAD FOR THE SIDEWALK.

IT DOES MEET OUR STANDARDS. UNDERSTOOD. AND DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW, ARE THESE SIDEWALKS UP ON MAIN STREET? ARE THEY ARE THEY THE MINIMUM FIVE FEET FROM BACK OF CURB? YES THEY ARE. OKAY. AND JUST JUST TO ANSWER ON THAT, I AGREE ABOUT THEIR SAFETY STANDARDS.

JON, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A MILLION TIMES.

FOR AN ADULT FOR A TEN, 15 YEAR OLD, PERFECTLY FINE FOR THE FIVE YEAR OLD ON THEIR BIKE OR THE KID ON THEIR SCOOTER.

SUDDENLY FIVE FEET FROM BACK OF CURB ON MAIN STREET MAY NOT FEEL AS SAFE AND MAY NOT BE AS WISE FOR THEM.

AND SO I'M JUST SAYING, I'M TALKING MORE ABOUT THE CONTRAST, THE DIFFERENCE IN THEIR JUST TOOLING ALONG AND THEY FEEL GREAT AND THEY'RE KIND OF NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE ROAD. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE MUCH CLOSER TO THE ROAD.

WHETHER IT MEETS OUR TECHNICAL SAFETY STANDARD OR NOT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT FAMILIES OR PARENTS FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.

IT'S ALSO THE DESIGN OF THE MAJORITY OF SIDEWALKS IN FRISCO AND OF ALL OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES.

SO THEY'LL BE USED TO IT IF THEY BY BIKE OR WALK ANYWHERE ELSE, ALONG ANYWHERE IN THIS IN OUR CITY OR OTHER CITIES.

OKAY. AND I THINK A LOT OF FAMILIES DON'T USE SIDEWALKS ALONG MAJOR STREETS FOR THAT REASON.

BUT THAT'S JUST THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. SO ANYWAY, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER CONCERNS, MY CONCERN BACK TO THE THE OPEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE AND THE LACK OF A DIRECT CONNECTION OVER TO THE OPEN SPACE.

SO I GOT A FEW THINGS REAL QUICK. I'VE LIVED IN FRISCO SINCE 2008.

I LIVE OFF OF COYOTE JUST SOUTH OF MAIN, SO I LIVE RIGHT NEAR HERE.

I DRIVE BY HERE MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK. I WAS SO EXCITED WHEN CHIPOTLE FINALLY OPENED THEIR RESTAURANT ON MAIN STREET BECAUSE WE WE WERE LIKE A A RESTAURANT DESERT. WE HAD NO RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA.

AND NOW WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF RESTAURANTS. SO I REALLY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SOMETHING COMING IN HERE.

I KNOW IT WON'T HAVE A DRIVE THRU, WHICH IS GOOD.

IT'LL BE PROBABLY A NICE SIT DOWN RESTAURANT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOES COME.

I AGREE WITH WHAT WARREN SAID EARLIER. MY KIDS PLAYED SOCCER OVER THERE AT BACCHUS, AND I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WALK OVER THERE AND HAD AN ICE CREAM OR, OR GO OVER HERE AND, AND GET SOMETHING TO EAT OR DRINK RIGHT AFTER SOCCER.

SO I REALLY THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO PUT THIS.

LIKE JON SAID I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN HERE.

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IT'S A BIG CONCERN EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT FRISCO.

THIS, THIS INTERSECTION IS NOT UNIQUE. I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

I'VE SEEN MANY ACCIDENTS AROUND FRISCO AND AND I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY BAD AREA TO PUT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF SAFETY, BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. JON, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ANSWER THE COMP PLAN.

WHAT DOES THE COMP PLAN SHOW THAT THIS AREA SHOULD BE ON THIS CORNER? THAT WAS SHOWN RESIDENTIAL.

RESIDENTIAL IN THAT CORNER. OKAY. TO ME, THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO SQUEEZE IN A LITTLE RESIDENTIAL ON THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT, JON? I THOUGHT IT SAID PUBLIC USE FOR THE COMP PLAN ON THIS CORNER.

WHILE HE'S PULLING UP, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT I MEAN, IT'D BE SUCH A TIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD OF TOWNHOMES.

I THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL CORNER. NO I AGREE.

ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE STAFF REPORT. JON. WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING THAT UP, JON.

I DID HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT ALSO. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I'M LOOKING AT AN AERIAL MAP AND I HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE ANY HOUSES THAT FRONT THIS MAYBE OFF TO THE SIDE.

YOU COULD SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOT FROM YOUR FRONT.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU WALK OUT YOUR FRONT DOOR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT OTHER HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU. I ALSO SEE A BRICK FENCE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION, BUT THEN TO THE NORTH, CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION, THERE IS A NICE STEEL METAL FENCE THAT GOES AROUND THERE TO KIND OF KEEP KIDS WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT JUST CROSSING MID-BLOCK. I ALSO SEE PLENTY OF TREES ALONG MOST OF THEIR NOT RIGHT AT THE HARD CORNER BECAUSE OF SIGHT DISTANCE ISSUES.

BUT SO AGAIN, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE.

JON. YEAH, SO YOU'RE CORRECT. IT'S SHOWN AS SEMIPUBLIC.

THE OTHER THREE CORNERS ARE SHOWN AS RESIDENTIAL AND JUST A LITTLE HISTORY.

THAT NORTHWEST CORNER THAT'S BEEN ZONED RETAIL FOR A LONG TIME.

FROM INDEPENDENCE OVER TO CUSTER ROAD, NORTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET.

ALL OF THAT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE. AND SO WHEN THE REZONING TOOK PLACE TO WHAT GROVE NORTH IS DEVELOPING, ALL OF THAT WAS MAINLY COMMERCIAL ONE ZONING AND MULTIFAMILY.

AND THEN I THINK THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WAS REZONED FROM RETAIL TO RESIDENTIAL.

THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO MENTION. NUMBER ONE, WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY VALUES, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DETERMINES THE PROPERTY VALUES.

THEY THE NUMBER ONE BASIS FOR DETERMINING THE PROPERTY VALUES IS COMP.

IT'S NOT WHAT'S DEVELOPED IN THE AREA. SO IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, THEY SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS THEY LOOK AT DETERMINING THE VALUE.

NUMBER TWO REGARDING ZONING AND ISD, WE NOTIFY THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOTH ALL FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY OF FRISCO.

WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED FROM PLATS TO SITE PLANS, TO ZONING CASES TO SPECIFIC USE PERMITS.

MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO NOT INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN ZONING CASES.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I JUST WANT TO FINISH UP BY SAYING I'M MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS.

SO ANYBODY ELSE? CAN I GO BACK TO MY QUESTION? HAS ANYONE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS ON GETTING PEOPLE FROM THE PARK TO THE DEVELOPMENT, TO THE OPEN SPACE IN A BETTER MANNER THAN JUST USING THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH WILL BE GREAT FOR ANYONE WHO'S DOWN TO THAT.

AND IT'S CONVENIENT. I GUESS MY QUESTION REALLY SHOULD BE ON PARKING SPACES.

ARE WE AT THE BARE MINIMUM OF PARKING SPACES? WHEREAS LOSING 1 OR 2 PARKING SPACES IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

YES. SO THEY HAVE MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL THE PROPOSED USES THAT'S ON THE EXHIBIT.

YES. BUT ARE THEY AT THE BARE MINIMUM OR ARE THEY OVER THE MINIMUM? I COULDN'T REMEMBER THAT FROM THE LOOKING AT IT.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE AT THE MINIMUM THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.

I THINK SO. OKAY, STEVE, REAL QUICK I AM LOOKING AT AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PARK.

AND I REMEMBER FROM WHEN MY KIDS PLAYED THERE, I'M TELLING YOU, I THINK THEY GOT IT RIGHT.

I THINK THEY'VE GOT IT. THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IN THE RIGHT SPOT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE PARK WHERE THE PARKING IS AND WHERE EVERYBODY'S AT, THEY'RE THERE.

WELL, SOUTH OF MAIN STREET, THEY'RE NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST MAIN STREET, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, THAT CONNECTION ROAD. MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M NOT AS WORRIED AS YOU ARE AS PEOPLE GOING UP TO MAIN STREET.

I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT THE PARK THERE. YOU SEE ALL THOSE WINDING PATHS ALONG THE PONDS.

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THE MAIN ENTRANCE ROAD TO THE PARK. I'VE BEEN IN THE PARK MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THERE AND I DON'T SEE MANY PEOPLE OVER THERE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, WAS THAT.

AND I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE SOCCER FIELDS. I DO THINK THE NUMBER ONE FROM THE SOCCER FIELDS, I THINK KIDS AND FAMILIES ARE JUST GOING TO WALK STRAIGHT ACROSS THE DRIVE AISLE TO GET TO THE BUILDINGS.

AND I'M SURE THAT HAPPENS A LOT OF OTHER PLACES TOO.

AND IF THAT SOME THINGS WE CAN'T CONTROL, IF THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THE AERIAL.

SO I SEE THE DRIVE AISLE THAT RUNS EAST WEST COMING OFF OF INDEPENDENCE LOOKS TO BE A SIDEWALK THERE THAT GOES OVER TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOK. AM I MISSING? SO, OKAY, JON, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THE OPEN SPACE.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE OPEN SPACE THAT WAS CREATED TO, TO BENEFIT THE PARK AND TO MAKE THIS BETTER.

AND YOU'RE STANDING IN THE SOCCER FIELD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE OPEN SPACE.

THAT'S NOT A SOCCER FIELD. WELL, IT SAYS FIELD SOCCER FIELDS.

IT'S. WELL, THAT'S WHAT GOOGLE MAPS SAYS. SOCCER FIELDS.

SOCCER FIELDS ARE WAY OVER HERE IN THE SOUTHERN WEST CORNER. WELL, EITHER WAY, I'M ON GOOGLE EARTH.

THERE'S A BIG THERE'S FIELDS RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO IT, ADJACENT TO IT.

SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THE DIRECT PATH TO THE OPEN SPACE IS THROUGH THE CARS ACROSS THE DRIVE AISLE.

AND IF THERE HAD BEEN SPACE FOR A DIRECT CONNECTOR, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO KIND OF FUNNEL PEOPLE THERE.

WE COULD TRY TO DESIGN THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING.

NO, JON, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU RIGHT THERE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DESIGN IT. I'M POINTING OUT WHAT'S VERY LIKELY GOING TO HAPPEN.

NATURE, AS WE SAID. AND SO WE OUR JOB IS TO LOOK AND SEE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE MISSING THAT MIGHT MAKE IT BETTER, MIGHT MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND I BELIEVE THAT IF THEY HAD A DIRECT CONNECTOR TO THE OPEN SPACE, IT WOULD BE A SAFER CROSSING FOR THEM. SO COMMISSIONER CONE, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE REVIEW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN DISCUSSION.

AND AS JOEL HAS STATED, THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED SIDEWALK TO THE SOUTH.

SO US PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK, CONNECTING TO THE OPEN SPACE, IT ESSENTIALLY GOES NOWHERE.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PORTION OF THE PARK COULD REDEVELOP, AND TO BACK THEM INTO A CORNER TO CREATE SOME SORT OF CONNECTION THERE.

AND SO, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AS THAT'S THE SAFEST CONNECTION POINT, THAT IS WHERE WE AND THE APPLICANT HAVE AGREED THAT THE ACCESS IS BEST SUITED.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW THAT BECAUSE THE OPEN SPACE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE REGARDLESS OF WHAT GETS DEVELOPED NEXT DOOR.

SO NO MATTER WHAT'S NEXT DOOR. THE PEOPLE WANTING TO.

THEY SEE THE OPEN SPACE. THEY WANT TO GET TO THE OPEN SPACE.

PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THOSE FIELDS ARE GOING TO TAKE THE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE, THE MOST DIRECT PATH.

SO THE POINT SHE WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT IF WE PUT A SIDEWALK ON THIS SITE AND POINT IT TOWARDS THE PARK, THE PARK IS NEVER GOING TO HAVE A SIDEWALK CONNECT TO IT.

UNDERSTOOD. SO IT WOULD BE A SIDEWALK THAT JUST LEADS TO, YOU KNOW, JUST A FIELD, WHICH IS NOT TYPICALLY WHAT YOU DO WITH SIDEWALKS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO TRICK SOMEBODY, ESPECIALLY ADA WISE TO SAY THAT THIS SIDEWALK LEADS SOMEWHERE AND THEN IT JUST ENDS IN GRASS.

YOU DON'T USUALLY DO THAT WITH SIDEWALKS. USUALLY IT HAS TO CONNECT ON AND GO CONNECT ON AND GO ON TO OTHER ROUTES AND SO FORTH.

IT USUALLY DOESN'T JUST LEAD AND STOP AT THE EDGE OF A FIELD.

THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY YOU DO SIDEWALKS. OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 29 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY JON, SECOND BY WARREN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. I HAVE A NAY.

AND WHAT'S YOUR REASON FOR THAT, STEVE? I THINK THE SITE COULD BE DESIGNED IN A SAFER MANNER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND SMALL CHILDREN.

OKAY, SO I HAVE A NAY BY STEVE. MOTION PASSES.

5 TO 1. ITEM NUMBER 29. PUBLIC HEARING. ZONING

[Public Hearing - Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (ZA26-0005)]

ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ZA26-0005.

OWNER CITY OF FRISCO. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

AS SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER, THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL DURING A WORK SESSION IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

STAFF IS PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO NONCONFORMING USES, NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES AND NONCONFORMING SITES.

SO AS THE CITY APPROACHES BUILD OUT. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE DEAL WITH MORE AND MORE FREQUENTLY.

AND UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, THERE'S VERY VAGUE LANGUAGE THAT HAS ALLOWED DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS THAT HAS ALLOWED PEOPLE TO

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FIND LOOPHOLES. SO WHAT STAFF IS ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE IS TO ADDRESS THE VAGUE LANGUAGE, TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY, AND TO ENSURE EVERYONE IS TREATED FAIRLY AND CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE BOARD, AS WELL AS ADDING LANGUAGE THAT ADDRESSES NON-CONFORMING SITES. BECAUSE TODAY WE ADDRESS NON-CONFORMING USES AND NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES, BUT WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE NON-CONFORMING SITES.

SO YOU DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL THIS EVENING. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A MOTION BY JON.

ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 29.

ANYONE NONE. MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT.

HAVE A MOTION BY WARREN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY SEAN.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR STAFF OR A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 29 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

SECOND. HAVE A MOTION BY JON. SECOND BY WARREN.

MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM NUMBER 30. PUBLIC HEARING.

[Public Hearing - Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (ZA26-0006)]

ZONING ORDINANCE. AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ZA26-0006.

OWNER CITY OF FRISCO. THANK YOU. SIMILAR TO THE LAST ITEM, THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS DURING A WORK SESSION BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THIS IS RELATING TO FRISCO NONRESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, FRISCO IS KNOWN FOR ITS HIGH QUALITY DESIGN STANDARDS.

STAFF WORKS TIRELESSLY WITH APPLICANTS ON MAKING SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.

BUT OFTENTIMES WE DO RECEIVE A LOT OF PUSHBACK, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE TEETH IN THE ORDINANCE TO SUPPORT OUR POSITION. SO THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE FREQUENTLY WORKING WITH STAFF ON OR APPLICANTS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO REQUIRING MULLIONS TO BE DARK IN COLOR RATHER THAN SILVER.

SO THAT'S LOOKING AT BRONZE BLACK, CHARCOAL GRAY, PROHIBITING TINTING OF WINDOWS ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

SO THAT'S INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE THAT PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, ENCOURAGE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE GROUND FLOOR REQUIRING SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS THAT FACE STREETS, PUBLIC WAYS AND OPEN SPACE TO INCORPORATE FEATURES JUST LIKE THEY WOULD BE ON THE FRONT.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE ARCHITECTURE THAT THE MATERIALS DON'T JUST FALL OFF ON THE BACKS OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THOSE, THOSE BACKS, THOSE SIDES ARE JUST AS ELEVATED AS THE FRONT, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHEN THEY'RE FRONTING ONTO OPEN SPACES, FIRE LANES, PUBLIC WAYS, LOOKING THAT THE STAIRS, RISERS, RAMPS AND LIKE STRUCTURES ARE CLAD IN BRICK, NATURAL STONE OR TILE JUST TO AVOID BLANK, DULL CONCRETE.

AND THEN LASTLY, BRINGING CORPORATE IDENTITY LANGUAGE TO THIS SECTION FOR CLARITY.

SO THE CITY, THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALREADY ADDRESSES CORPORATE IDENTITY.

HOWEVER, IT IS IN A, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT PORTION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO THAT CAN SOMETIMES TRIP PEOPLE UP. SO JUST MOVING IT TO THIS SECTION SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO THIS IS ALL IN THE SAME PLACE.

DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

COULD I ASK A QUICK QUESTION FIRST? I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS LAST MINUTE QUESTION, BUT I DO FEEL IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE.

WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE OR ACCEPTABLE? YES, SIR.

YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO VOTE. AND SO IF YOU WISH TO ABSTAIN, YOU'RE FREE TO DO SO.

DO I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF AND LEAVE OR JUST NOT VOTE? IF IF THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ISSUE, THEN YES.

FINANCIAL OR SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST? I JUST FEEL IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

OKAY. THEN IN THAT CASE, AS A DESIGNER. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. WELL, HOLD ON A MINUTE.

YEAH. JUST ONE CLARIFICATION THAT IF YOU'RE ABSTAINING IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS NOT A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, YOUR VOTE WOULD BE COUNTED AND IT WOULD BE RECORDED AS A NO VOTE.

SO JUST THAT'S ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF CHOOSING NOT TO VOTE.

YEAH. THIRD TIME'S A CHARM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SEAN. SECOND. SECOND BY STEVE.

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