[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRISCO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WE ARE GATHERED AT 6101 FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD, AND THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M.. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSISTS OF FRISCO RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT ARE STEVE CONE, JON KENDALL, SEAN MERRELL, TIFFANY WELLS, MICHAEL HOWARD AND WARREN RUIZ. MY NAME IS BRITTANY KOLBERG AND I AM YOUR CHAIR. REPRESENTING STAFF TONIGHT ARE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ROLANDREA RUSSELL, SEAN AUCOIN, IRIEL WINFREY, ASA WOODBURY AND HOLLY MARTIN. FROM ENGINEERING WE HAVE JASON GRIMM AND EDUARDO TORRES. AND FROM FIRE WE HAVE ALYSSA BARSTOW. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN INPUT. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. PLEASE COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED, SO PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE OR ANY APPLICANTS PRESENT THIS EVENING. TO ENSURE THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR ALL TO SPEAK PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO A MAXIMUM OF 5 MINUTES, UNLESS YOU MUST ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THROUGH A TRANSLATOR, IN WHICH CASE YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES. PLEASE NOTE THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION DURING CITIZEN INPUT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA, EXCEPT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY. TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, OR TO INDICATE THAT THE MATTER MAY BE PLACED ON A LATER AGENDA. DO I HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? DO I SPEAK THROUGH CITIZEN INPUT OR ON AN ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM LATER? PERFECT. WE'LL GET TO YOU. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, FILL OUT A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND TURN IT INTO THE SECRETARY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THEN THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, DO I HAVE A MOTION? [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 10TH, 2026. MOTION BY SEAN. SECOND. SECOND BY STEVE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0. NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS. [CONSENT AGENDA] ANY COMMISSION MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUEST PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS MAY CONSIDER ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY. ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO WITH THE MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION. TONIGHT WE HAVE ITEMS 3 THROUGH 7 THIS EVENING AND I KNOW WE NEED TO PULL 3, 6 AND 7 FOR RECUSALS. SO CAN I GET A MOTION ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 4 AND 5. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 4 AND 5 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY JOHN. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0 [Conveyance Plat: Railhead, Phase 1, Block A, Lots 9, 10, & 14 (CP26-0004)] SO SEAN'S GOING TO RECUSE HIMSELF ON ITEM NUMBER 3. I WANT TO BE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF 1 TIME. YOU COULD GO AHEAD. WARREN YOU ARE. LET'S HAVE YOU DO SOME CHANGES TO YOUR HOME. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON CONSENT? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 3 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SORRY. MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY JOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0. YEAH. SO FOR THE RECORD, SEAN IS COMING BACK TO THE [Site Plan: Fields West, Block A, Lots 10 & 11 (SP26-0013)] [Call to Public Hearing: Amendment to Planned Development-280] DAIS. AND I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM 6 AND 7, AND TIFFANY WILL TAKE OVER. OKAY, SO WE HAVE ITEMS 6 AND 7. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THOSE ITEMS 6 AND 7. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SEAN ON THE MOTION SECOND ANYBODY. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE GOT WARREN. OKAY. SO MOTION APPROVED. ALL IN FAVOR? OH, ALL IN FAVOR? SORRY. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 5. 6. BECAUSE SHE'S VOTING. YEAH. 6. YEAH, I STILL VOTE. THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, 6. OKAY, LET'S SHOW THAT BRITNEY IS COMING BACK TO THE DAIS. RIGHT. TONIGHT WE HAVE 2 PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. EACH PUBLIC HEARING IS PRECEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED 10 MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION. FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. ALL SPEAKERS, [00:05:02] INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, NEED TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND PROVIDE IT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR POSITION. PLEASE AVOID REPEATING WHAT HAS BEEN STATED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS OTHER THAN STATING THAT YOU AGREE WITH THEIR COMMENTS. THIS TIME LIMIT IS 5 MINUTES PER SPEAKER TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK. THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME IF A LARGE VOLUME OF PEOPLE ARE WISHING TO SPEAK. PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. REPEAT APPEARANCE TO THE PODIUM ARE NOT PERMITTED. AFTER ALL, PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASE WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED UNLESS THE CASE IS TABLED TO A FUTURE DATE AND THE COMMISSION INCLUDES, IN THEIR MOTION, TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A FUTURE MEETING. AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT. PLEASE NOTE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ZONING CASES UNLESS THE COMMISSION DISAPPROVES THE CASE AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAL THE DISAPPROVAL. FINAL ACTION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF AS TO WHEN THE CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO OUR 1ST ITEM TONIGHT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 8 PUBLIC HEARING REPLAT CROSSPOINTE PARK ADDITION, [Public Hearing – Replat: Crosspointe Park Addition, Block A, Lot 2RA (RP26-0003)] BLOCK A, LOT 2RA (RP26-0003). OWNERS GRACE AVENUE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THE ITEM NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE TABLE. MOTION TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE TABLE. MOTION BY SEAN. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0. THANK YOU. SO THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD WAS INITIALLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ON JANUARY 26TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OPENED A PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLED THIS ITEM TO TODAY'S MEETING. SINCE THAT TIME, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND FOUND THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, ZONING ORDINANCE, ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND OTHER CITY POLICIES AND SO THIS EVENING, THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVAL. PER THE ITEMS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO OUR PUBLIC HEARING IS ALREADY OPEN. BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND DO THEY WISH TO SPEAK? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 8. SEEING NONE MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 8. MOTION BY JOHN. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO DISAPPROVE ITEM NUMBER 8 FOR THE REASONS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF'S REPORT, AND DELEGATE TO STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE APPLICANT OF THE REASONS FOR THE DISAPPROVAL. MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0. ITEM IS DISAPPROVED. I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF. YOU GOT IT. SO SEAN WILL BE RECUSING HIMSELF FOR 9. ITEM NUMBER 9. PUBLIC HEARING. OH. I'M SO SORRY. YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY. IT MIGHT BE LONGER, BUT THEN THAT DOOR HAS TO BE CLOSED. YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GO OVER THERE. WE WOULD. YOU'LL HAVE TO GO OUT THIS DOOR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LEAVE THAT DOOR OPEN. YOU HAVE TO BE BEHIND A CLOSED DOOR. NO, I MEAN, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT LOBBY. OKAY. SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT. WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR SHOES SQUEAK AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. [LAUGHTER] POOR SEAN. OKAY, NOW THAT SEAN IS OFF THE DAIS. ITEM NUMBER 9. PUBLIC HEARING. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. [Public Hearing - Specific Use Permit: Cobb Business Park (SUP25-0005)] COBB BUSINESS PARK SUP25-0005 OWNERS. JOHN CARTER FERGUSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. SO THE ITEM JUST READ INTO THE RECORD THIS EVENING IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE TABLED UNTIL THE APRIL 14TH MEETING DUE TO SOME ISSUES WITH THE ZONING SIDE AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING IS TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND TABLE TO THE APRIL 14TH MEETING FOR THE ITEM TO BE HEARD AT THAT TIME. EXCELLENT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A REQUEST TO TABLE, WE WILL STILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY JOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0. WE HAVE A FEW BLUE SPEAKER CARDS THAT TIFFANY IS GOING TO READ IN. AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I BUTCHERED YOUR NAME, BUT FIRST WE HAVE EVELYN VILLAREAL AND THEN AFTER HER WILL BE KIM MARTIN. OH, YEAH. YEAH. [00:10:09] HELLO, MY NAME IS EVELYN VILLARREAL. RESIDENTS AT 7419 CHINABERRY LANE, FRISCO, TEXAS. AT THE BEGINNING, I'M GOING TO READ SOME MESSAGES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE GIVEN TO US. SO THESE ARE THEIR WORDS. IT'S RIDICULOUS TO IT'S RIDICULOUS TO KNOW THAT WE MUST GO THROUGH THIS A 3RD TIME. ANOTHER MESSAGE WAS, I DO NOT WANT THIS BUSINESS NEAR OUR COMMUNITY, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL AND SHOP THE CAR NOISE THAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN CUSTOMERS PICK UP THEIR AUTOS AND THE VALUE VALUATION IMPACT THAT IT WILL HAVE ON MY HOME. ANOTHER MESSAGE WOULD BE PLEASE STOP THE AUTO REPAIR BUSINESS KNOWN AS MILLER AUTOMOTIVE, FROM LOCATING NEXT TO MEADOW HILL ESTATES. ANOTHER MESSAGE IS DON'T TRY TO HOUSTON OR FRISCO. ANOTHER MESSAGE IS I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BUSINESS IN THIS LOCATION IN THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE. I PLEDGE TO SUPPORT THE OPPONENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS IN FAVOR OF THIS SUP. NEXT AND FINAL MESSAGE THAT I HAVE IS FRISCO HAS ZONING ORDINANCES TO AVOID THESE ISSUES. WHY IS OUR CITY EVEN ENTERTAINING THE REQUEST? IF APPROVED, I WOULD SET A PRECEDENT. IT WOULD SET A PRECEDENT TO SEND THE MESSAGES TO THAT HOMEOWNERS THAT THEY ARE NOT VALUED. AND ON THAT WAS ON BEHALF OF RESIDENCES. ME MYSELF. I JUST WANT TO RECAP WHY WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THE MR. FERGUSON'S BROTHER, WHO LIVES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, DOES NOT WANT TO DRIVE FAR TO WORK. SO THEY BOUGHT HIM A BUSINESS, PUT IN THE LIFTS, AND THEN ASKED FOR PERMISSION. SO IN ALL, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S BEEN HERE, WHO HAS NOT BEEN HERE IN THE YEAR AND A HALF, MAYBE ALMOST, THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A RECAP FROM THE VERY FIRST GET GO, HE WAS ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 9 TO 5. NO WEEKENDS. NEXT TIME HE COMES AROUND THE SUN, I GUESS WHO'S NOT THE FINANCIER WHO'S ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT WAS OH, IT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THEN WE ALSO DO SATURDAYS, BUT WE WILL NOT DO SUNDAYS. SO THAT ALSO CHANGED, THEN IT WENT FROM 9 TO 5 TO 9 TO 6. SO ALL IN ALL, FROM THE GET GO FROM THE 1ST T2 TIMES HE'S CHANGED HIS MOTTO, THEN HE WENT FROM MAJOR TO MINOR. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IN THE WHOLE, IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE GUIDELINES, IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE ORDINANCES, IT MEANS NO AUTOMOTIVE PERIOD. SO LET'S JUST STRESS AND GET BACK TO THAT POINT IS THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE BASICS AND WHY WHY WE'RE HERE, JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO TRAVEL. I ALSO, I HAD A MEETING, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THE GATHERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON AT WARREN PARK, WHICH HAVE KEPT US UP ALL NIGHT. THEY START AT 7 NOW AND THEN THEY GO INTO LIKE 1:00 IN THE MORNING. SO WHEN I HAD THE MEETING WITH THE CONVERSATION WITH THE OFFICERS, HE COULDN'T EVEN TELL ME. I'M LIKE, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY THERE ARE? BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DROVE THERE 1ST BEFORE AS I WAS CALLING THEM. AND THEN I TOLD THEM WHERE I FOUND THEM. AND THERE ARE ALL THE CARS THAT ARE SPEED, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LIKE THE ENHANCED MUFFLERS AND MOTORCYCLES AND STUFF. AND SO WHEN HE WENT THERE, HE, YOU KNOW, I COULD ACTUALLY HEAR HIM ON THE PHONE WHILE HE WAS GETTING THERE AND TELLING EVERYBODY LIKE, YOU NEED TO GET UP AND YOU NEED TO PACK UP, YOU NEED TO GO HOME. AND I WAS LIKE, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE THERE? AND HE'S LIKE NO. AND I WAS LIKE, I'M SORRY. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY ARE THERE? HE'S LIKE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT. I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THEM. SO NOW YOU'RE BRINGING THIS RIFF RAFF TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TO OUR LOVELY FRISCO. YOU STILL HAVE A MINUTE? SO HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO BE HERE? LIKE, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING? ACCORDING TO JONATHAN HUBBARD, WHO DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN FRISCO INFINITE AMOUNT, THIS MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO APPLY FOR HOWEVER MANY SUPS. BUT THEN HOW MANY? BUT THEN WHAT ABOUT OUR RIGHTS AS CITIZENS FOR US TO LIVE IN A PEACEFUL LIFE, LIVE LIKE MR. KENDALL IN A GATED COMMUNITY AND WE FOUND PROPERTY FOR MILLER MUFFLER TO MOVE THEIR LEGACY EL DORADO HAVE HIS BUSINESS MOVED THERE? BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN UP SO MANY TIMES, HE'S BEEN DENIED FOR A REASON. NO MEANS NO. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. SET SOME TIME TERM LIMITS TO WHERE HE CAN'T CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS, THE SAME MOTTO WHICH ALL INVOLVES ENHANCING MUFFLERS. [00:15:04] BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE US TO POLICE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING. SO SORRY. TIME'S UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UP NEXT IS KIM MORTIN, AND AFTER KIM IS KELLY VAN DIKE. THAT'S ME NOT KNOWING HOW TO DO THIS. ONE SECOND, KIM [LAUGHTER] THAT BUTTON I DIDN'T HIT, PERFECT. MY NAME IS KIM MARTIN. I'M AT 1139 FIREFLY LANE IN FRISCO. I LIVE IN MEADOW HILL ESTATES, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR MILLER AUTOMOTIVE. THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR MILLER AUTOMOTIVE MEDICAL ESTATES HAS 614 HOMES IN IT. I SERVE ON THE BOARD THERE AND AS HOMEOWNERS, WE'VE COME TO REPRESENT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS ON THIS ISSUE NOVEMBER 12TH OF 2024 AND APRIL 8TH OF 2025 AND AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS DECEMBER 3RD, 2024 AND MAY 6TH, 2025. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SECTION 4.07.12 SAYS THAT STRUCTURES IN CONJUNCTION, IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANY AUTOMOTIVE USE, SHALL BE LOCATED A MINIMUM OF 250FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, 250FT, AND THAT AN AUTOMOTIVE USE SHALL BE DEFINED AS THE SALES, LEASING, RENTING, SERVICING, REPAIR OR WASHING OF AUTOMOBILES, BOATS, MOTORCYCLES, TRUCKS OR ANY OTHER MODE OF MOTOR VEHICLE. AND THIS MEANS THAT ANY AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S A CAR WASH OR RETAIL AUTO PARTS STORE, AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP OR ANY OF THE LISTED BUSINESSES IN THE ORDINANCE, THEY HAVE TO BE LOCATED AT LEAST 250FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE BORDER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THIS BUSINESS PROPOSES TO LOCATE ABOUT 150FT AWAY, AND I SAY ABOUT 150FT AWAY BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT LINE SOMEBODY COULDN'T DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY WERE DRAWING THE RCD. AND IT VARIES, YOU KNOW, FROM 151FT TO 154FT. SO BASICALLY 150FT INSTEAD OF 250FT. SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD THOUGHT THAT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WENT TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, BUT IT DOES NOT. THE RAMIFICATIONS OF GIVING THE SUP WE KNOW THAT THE SUP IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWS A BUSINESS TO DEVIATE FROM EXISTING ZONING RULES AND THAT THE SUP STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROPERTY UNLESS THE OWNER VIOLATES THE SUP. SO IF THIS SUP IS APPROVED FOR THIS BUSINESS, THEN MEADOW HILL ESTATES BECOMES THE DE FACTO WATCHDOG TO ENSURE THAT THE TERMS OF THE SUP ARE BEING KEPT, WHATEVER THOSE TERMS WOULD BE. SO WHY WE OPPOSE? FOR THE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE NEAR THE PROPOSED SITE, THEY ALREADY HEAR NOISE FROM THE CASSIE BUILDING, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING NEAR THERE. IT'S NEAR RIGHT NEXT TO OUR POND. WE OPPOSE THE NOISE THAT THIS BUSINESS WOULD BRING. THE FUMES, THE CHEMICALS, AND JUST THE INEVITABLE TRASH THAT THE WIND ALWAYS BRINGS BECAUSE WE JUST LIVE IN A WINDY PLACE. WE OPPOSE BASED ON PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH WILL DECLINE WITH AN AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS THIS CLOSE. WE OPPOSE BECAUSE THE ZONING RULES ARE 250FT, AND THIS IS ONLY 150FT FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHY DO WE HAVE RULES IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THEM? WE OPPOSED BASED ON MORE TRAFFIC FROM LIFTED AUTOS. LIFT KITS BEING THEIR SPECIALTY ON NORTH COUNTY ROAD IN MEADOW HILL DRIVE. AND REALLY, DO WE REALLY NEED TALLER VEHICLES THAT CAN'T SEE OUR CHILDREN CROSSING THE ROAD? WE OPPOSE BECAUSE WE, THE MEADOW HILL ESTATES RESIDENTS, DO NOT WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MONITORING THE CONDITIONS OF THE SUP. WE OPPOSE BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME BUSINESS AND CATEGORY THAT HAS APPLIED TO LOCATE HERE TWICE ALREADY. AND WE ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO OPPOSE BEFORE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SEES THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING HARASSED. AND FINALLY, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THE SAME CATEGORY OF BUSINESS CAN APPLY FOR AN SUP FOR THE SAME LOCATION. TWICE SEEMS GENEROUS. BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT LIMIT. AND WE DON'T HAVE A BIG GROUP HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THE EVENT WAS GOING TO BE TABLED. PEOPLE WILL COME APRIL 14TH. I CAN'T BE HERE APRIL 14TH. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT. BUT WE DID PULL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAD 79 RESIDENTS RESPOND TO OUR POLL, AND MANY OF THEM OFFERED COMMENTS, SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. EVELYN VILLARREAL READ TO YOU. BUT THEY'RE JUST POINT THEY'RE JUST TO THE POINT. I JUST TOOK EXCERPTS OUT OF A FEW OF THEM. I'LL JUST READ A FEW OF THEM TO YOU AS LONG AS I'VE GOT TIME. OKAY. FRISCO SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ENTERTAINING TO SESSION ABOUT THE REQUEST, IT SHOULD BE DENIED PERIOD. [00:20:04] THE HOMEOWNERS DESERVE TO HAVE THE CITY HOLD TO ITS ZONING ORDINANCES. HERE'S ANOTHER PERSON THAT SAID THIS IS LUDICROUS THAT HE'S TRYING FOR A 3RD TIME. THERE SHOULD BE A LIMIT. ANOTHER PERSON SAID, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS STILL AN ISSUE. IT'S 150FT AWAY AND THE CODE SAYS 250FT. THE NEXT ONE SAYS, I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPOSED BUSINESS. I'M VOTING TO DECLINE THE AUTO SHOP. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL CITY AND AND YOU ALL HELPED MAKE IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DON'T MESS THIS UP THIS TIME. OKAY. KELLY. AND THEN AFTER KELLY, WE HAVE GRAHAM MATHER. OKAY. MY NAME IS KELLY VAN DIKE, AND I LIVE AT 7193 YELLOWSTONE DRIVE IN MEADOW HILL ESTATES. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THE OWNER OF MILLER MUFFLER GETS TO FILE THESE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DENIED SEVERAL TIMES. THIS HAS BECOME HARASSMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO BE CONTINUOUSLY HOUNDED BY THIS. FURTHERMORE, IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT WILL BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, AS KIM POINTED OUT, TO POLICE IT AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS. WE DID NOT ASK FOR THIS BUSINESS, AND WE DEFINITELY DO NOT ASK FOR THE BURDEN OF KEEPING A BUSINESS WE DO NOT WANT AND HAVEN'T APPROVED MAKING SURE THEY STAY IN LINE. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNFAIR TO US AS HOMEOWNERS, FOR YOU TO APPROVE SOMETHING AND HAVE NO FOLLOW UP OR RESPONSIBILITY TO MONITOR YOUR DECISION. THERE IS A REASON THESE THINGS ARE PUT IN PLACE, AND THAT IS TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS, THE PROPERTY VALUES AND OUR CHILDREN THAT A BUSINESS CAN JUST COME IN AND HEAR AND CHANGE. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES OR CREATIVE WAYS THE OWNER OF MILLER MUFFLER TRIES TO PUSH THIS THROUGH, THE FACTS REMAIN HE'S TOO CLOSE, HE'S TOO CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE. I OPPOSE THIS AND RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO DO THE SAME. IF THIS WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW WOULD YOU HONESTLY FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WOULD BE THRUST UPON YOU IN PERPETUITY? WE ASK THAT YOU NOT SACRIFICE THE GOOD OF MANY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE YOU. GRAHAM. HELLO, I'M GRAHAM MATHER. I LIVE IN MEADOW HILLS AND MOVED THERE IN JUNE. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL. I'M COMING HERE AS A FELLOW GEARHEAD. I'M A CAR GUY. I WORK ON MY OWN CARS. I ALWAYS HAVE. I LIKE TO WRENCH I TAKE APART MY ENGINES. I'VE HAD SUPERCHARGERS AND AFTERMARKET EXHAUST, AND I'VE RIDDEN MOTORCYCLES. I LOVE WORKING ON CARS, AND I LOVE THE WHOLE CULTURE. I'M A CAR GUY THROUGH AND THROUGH. MY DAD WAS, HE WAS A MECHANIC. SO I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WANT TO MODIFY THEIR CARS AND WHAT'S WHAT'S SO COOL ABOUT IT? I GUESS COMING INTO THIS. I MOVED HERE IN JUNE AND WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THIS, I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS IS CRAZY. THIS HAS TO BE A MISTAKE. OF COURSE, I STARTED READING ABOUT IT. I HEARD THAT INITIALLY IT WAS GOING TO BE A MUFFLER SHOP. AND THEN APPARENTLY THE THE PLANS TO MAKE IT A MUFFLER SHOP WERE TABLED. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN MY WHOLE LIFE I'VE JUST WORKED AROUND CARS A LOT. IT'S NOT A QUIET BUSINESS. I MEAN, YOU THINK OF ONE OF THE MOST COMMON REASONS PEOPLE TAKE THEIR CAR INTO A CAR REPAIR SHOP IS BECAUSE IT'S MAKING SOME KIND OF NOISE, RIGHT? IT'S. OH, IT'S MAKING [INAUDIBLE] THE BRAKES ARE SQUEALING, THERE'S SOME MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE EXHAUST SYSTEM. AND PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE EITHER TRYING TO QUIET THEIR CARS DOWN BECAUSE IT'S MAKING A NOISE THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT TO MAKE, OR THEY'RE THERE INTENTIONALLY TO MAKE IT LOUDER. IN THE CASE OF MAYBE ADDING A MUFFLER OR IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE A MUFFLER JUST ADDING A PERFORMANCE INTAKE ONTO AN ENGINE MAKES IT LOUDER. A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE REMOVING A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS THAT THE OEM PUTS IN PLACE TO KEEP THINGS QUIET, YOU REMOVE RESTRICTIONS SO THE AIR CAN FLOW BETTER THROUGH THE CAR AND CREATE MORE HORSEPOWER, YOU ADD THINGS LIKE TURBOS, BLOW OFF VALVES. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COOL AND MAKE THE CAR FASTER, THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF FUN TO PLAY WITH, BUT TO MAKE THEM LOUDER. SO I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MODIFY THEIR VEHICLES. [00:25:02] I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE DONE RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOME, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO SHOWS UP THERE IS THERE TO DEMONSTRATE, HEY, MY CAR IS MAKING X, Y, Z SOUND. THEY'RE THERE TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, IT'S DOING THIS. THERE'S THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. I WANT THAT FIXED. AND THEN WHEN THEY COME TO PICK IT UP, I MEAN, WHEN YOU START A CAR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY A NEW CAR, WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU DO, YOU START REVVING THE MOTOR, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES IT REV FREELY? DOES IT REV SMOOTHLY? AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT LOUDER OR ADD SOME PERFORMANCE PARTS TO IT, THE SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE TECH YOU PULL UP, YOU SHOW THE ISSUE THAT'S HAPPENING, YOU'RE REVVING THE MOTOR, HEAR THE NOISE, YOU'RE GOING INSIDE. YOU'RE FILLING OUT THE PAPERWORK, YOU LEAVE, YOU GIVE THEM YOUR KEYS. THE TECHNICIAN, HE GRABS THE KEYS, HE COMES OUT, HE VERIFIES. OH, OKAY. I SEE THIS IS IN FOR X, Y, Z ISSUE. FIRST THING HE WANTS TO DO IS JUST VERIFY THE SOUND. WHAT'S IT DOING? WHAT'S WHAT'S WRONG? WHY HESITATING? YOU'RE REVVING THE ENGINE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT. WHAT'S UP. YOU FIX IT. YOU THINK YOU FIX IT MULTIPLE TIMES TO ACTUALLY TROUBLESHOOT AND FIX AND REPAIR A VEHICLE. IT'S NATURAL. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS A LOT, WHETHER YOU'RE YOU'RE MODIFYING THE MUFFLER OR THE EXHAUST OR ANYTHING. THIS IS JUST PART OF FIXING A VEHICLE. YOU'RE CONSTANTLY SEEING. WILL THE CAR IDLE? DOES IT REV FREELY THROUGH ITS RANGE? RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY IT'S DONE, THEN HE GOES AND HE PUTS IT, HE GIVES THE KEYS BACK. OKAY. IT'S DONE. CALL THE OWNER. THE OWNER COMES BACK, WHAT'S THE FIRST THING HE WANTS TO DO? HE WANTS TO TURN IT ON AND SEE. CAN HE REPLICATE THE SOUND? THERE'S GOING TO INEVITABLY BE SOME SORT OF A TEST DRIVE. HE'S GOING TO PULL OUT OF THE OUT OF THE LOT AND PROBABLY GIVE IT, GIVE IT, GIVE IT SOME GAS. RIGHT. SO HE'S GOING TO BE FLYING UP EL DORADO. NOT INTENTIONALLY, BUT HE'S JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DID THEY FIX MY CAR OR NOT? THE TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND THE TYPE OF NOISE THAT A CAR REPAIR SHOP GENERATES IS JUST NOTHING I WANT NEAR MY HOME. AND I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'VE ONLY LIVED HERE SINCE JUNE, BUT IT'S KIND OF INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT THIS CONTINUALLY COMES UP TO BE TO BE, TO BE ADDRESSED OVER AND OVER. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. WE DON'T WANT THIS NEAR OUR HOMES. AND IT'S CRAZY TO ME THAT AS WE'VE MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES TONIGHT THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE BROUGHT UP, ALMOST LIKE DRIVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO SUBMISSION. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE OPPOSE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL. I DON'T WANT A CAR REPAIR SHOP NEAR OUR HOME. AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE CAR CULTURE AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC HEARING? YOU'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEAK, THEN AFTERWARDS, JUST FILL OUT A BLUE SPEAKER CARD. YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AFTERWARDS. IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN JUST FILL 1 OUT AFTERWARDS AND PASS IT TO HOLLY, PLEASE. SORRY I GOT HERE A LITTLE LATE. MY NAME IS SHERRY CAMACHO. I LIVE AT 7117. JUNIPER. I'VE LIVED ON MY STREET SINCE 2008, SO I'VE SEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROW. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE CROSSING THE STREET. I MEAN, JUST DRIVING HOME TODAY THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR KIDS, I CAN'T. I COUNTED CROSSING THE STREET. I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED A MUFFLER SHOP THAT'S GOING TO BE LOUD. THAT LIKE THE GUY SAID EARLIER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING FAST DOWN THE ROAD PROBABLY, OR EVEN JUST LOUD. WE DON'T NEED THAT AROUND THE KIDS. AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO BRING PROPERTY VALUES DOWN AND JUST DOESN'T ADD VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OUR REQUEST IS TO KEEP OUR PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND TO TABLE UNTIL THE APRIL 14TH MEETING. BEFORE WE DO THAT. ARE WE ABLE TO ASK STAFF ANY QUESTIONS OR. YEAH, YEAH, I PLAN TO. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK ON THE THE CHANGE FROM I REMEMBER IF IT WAS NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER 2 REQUEST WHERE THE BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE CUT IN HALF TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THE 250 FOOT DISTANCE. WHAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE APPLICANT TO NO LONGER WANT TO DO THAT? TO MEET THE 250 FOOT REQUIREMENT. YOU'D HAVE TO ASK YOU A DIRECT QUESTION. SO IF YOU NEED ME TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. YEAH. CAN I ASK THE APPLICANT? I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU WERE THERE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND I JUST PREP THE APPLICANT. WE WANT TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL AS WE'RE JUST ANSWERING HIS QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE NOT REBUTTING ANY COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT. JUST. YEAH. YEAH. JUST A SPECIFIC QUESTION. I'LL ASK IT AGAIN. [00:30:02] JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE OF THE PLANS WHERE THE BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE CUT IN HALF AND THE AUTOMOTIVE USE WAS ONLY GOING TO BE ALLOWED ON THE FURTHEST HALF, THE WESTERNMOST HALF TO TRY TO MEET THE 250 FOOT REQUIREMENT. AND THIS THIS TIME AROUND. IT'S A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT. YES, SIR. SO THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, ON MY PART. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE ZONING, THE 40712 ADJACENCY RULE TOOK PRECEDENT. THE 40712 ADJACENCY RULE DOES NOT TAKE ANY PRECEDENT OVER THE PD. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STATES IN THE BACK END. THE LAST PARAGRAPH 75FT FROM ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. THE WALL MATTERED NOT, THAT WAS WHY FROM THE ORIGINAL SUP WE HAD STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ON THE 2ND ONE WE HAD STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE THE DISTANCING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN ORDER TO APPEASE THE RESIDENTS. WAS THE END GOAL WAS TO TAKE TAKE THE WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE ON ANY TYPE OF VEHICLE AND MOVE IT AS FAR AWAY IN THAT BUILDING AS WE COULD FROM THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY KEPT, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THAT. 40712 ADJACENCY RULE. THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS, IS THAT THE LAST PARAGRAPH STATES IT IS A 75 FOOT ADJACENT RULE. I CAN BE 75FT AWAY FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL BOUNDARY, AND BY RULE, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE. OKAY, SO IT WAS IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING, WE TRIED TO MOVE IT. ON THIS THIS 3RD TIME AROUND, I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT. I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW MANY OF THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY KNOW THIS INFORMATION. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PUBLIC, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR ON THIS 3RD TIME AROUND IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MODIFIED SUP. OKAY. DID HE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION FOR NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THAT HELPED. SORRY. ROLANDREA. CAN YOU FOLLOW UP AND CLARIFY? EITHER TONIGHT OR I GUESS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING? ANY ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES IN MEASURING IN TERMS OF THE PLAN? WELL, WHAT I CAN CONFIRM IS THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE PRIOR TO WHEN WE DID THE OVERALL OF OUR ORDINANCE IN I THINK IT'S 2011, BUT WE CAN GET CONFIRMATION FOR THAT AND ENSURE THAT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD A FEW THINGS. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING TONIGHT. I BELIEVE WHEN I READ FOR RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD READ WHAT IS BEING IT'S NOT JUST RECOMMENDATION, BUT THIS RECOMMENDATION IS TIED SPECIFICALLY TO THIS OPERATOR. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, IT IS WHAT IS BEING PUT FORWARD TO YOU ALL FOR A RECOMMENDATION, WHAT WE'LL GO FOR. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FROM YOU ALL, WE'LL GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE DIRECTION TO PREPARE THE ORDINANCE. AND MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS A CONCERN SAYING ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THEY'LL HAVE IT IN [INAUDIBLE]. I CAN'T SAY THE WORD. PERPETUITY. THANK YOU. WE'LL JUST SAY HAVE HIM SAY IT. THEY CAN GO FOREVER. BUT I THINK I READ THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR 3 YEARS AND WOULD HAVE TO BE RENEWED AFTER THREE YEARS AND IS TIED SPECIFICALLY TO THIS. OPERATOR. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. SO BASED ON THE DIALOG THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, ALL THE CONCERNS THAT HAS BEEN SHARED AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY AND WITH THE APPLICANT, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED SPECIFIC PARAMETERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TIED TO THE PROPERTY AND WITH ALSO AN END DATE TO IT AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN ESSENTIALLY ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ADHERING TO THE ORDINANCE AND IT'S NOT BEING A NUISANCE AND HOPEFULLY. AND I KNOW WE CAN'T. BUT FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE OR EVEN LISTENING, THEY'RE SAYING IF DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO. BUT IF THIS WERE APPROVED AND THOSE CONCERNS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, HAD, IF WE SEE OVER THE NEXT 3 YEARS AND IT'S PROVEN, I KNOW IT'S STILL PAINFUL. IF AGAIN, I'M NOT IF IT WERE IN 3 YEARS, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU. AND THERE WOULD BE DOCUMENTATION THAT THE POLICE HAVE BEEN CALLED OR THINGS, SITUATIONS HAVE HAPPENED, THERE'S BEEN NOISE. IF THAT HAPPENS, I WOULD FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD TAKE IT AWAY FROM HIM. AND THIS IS ALSO BEING TIED TO IF HE WERE TO SELL THE BUSINESS, THEY HE LOSES THAT RIGHT. IT IS ATTACHED TO THIS COMPANY AND HIS NAME. SO THIS ISN'T IN PERPETUITY. PERPETUITY. NICE. TO ANYONE ELSE. HOPEFULLY THAT CLARIFIED AT LEAST ONE OF THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT WAS OUT THERE. [00:35:07] CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO CLARIFY THAT? IT'S TIED TO THE LAND OWNER THAT'S MAKING THE APPLICATION IS THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT. AND SO THE OPERATOR COULD CHANGE AS LONG AS THE SAME LAND OWNER OWNS THAT BUILDING AND DOESN'T SELL THE PROPERTY. SO IS THAT. I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE. I KNOW WHEN I READ OVER IT, IT WAS TIED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND I'M SAYING THIS FROM MEMORY. FROM WHAT I REMEMBER IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT WAS TIED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS. OKAY. AS LONG AS WE CAN CLARIFY THAT BETWEEN NOW AND IN A FUTURE DATE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. AND AGAIN, JUST ANSWERING MY QUESTION, THIS ISN'T US GOING INTO A IT'S CALLED A MUFFLER. BUT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT PERCENTAGE CURRENTLY IS MUFFLERS. IF YOU SAY IT'S 10%, 20% IS IT LIFTS? IS IT ENGINE WORK? CAN YOU GIVE ME JUST. EXHAUST WORK MAKES UP ABOUT 30% OF MY BUSINESS. 30% IS EXHAUST. WHAT IS WHAT FILLS IN THE OTHER 70%? ALIGNMENT'S FRONT ENDS, SUSPENSION, BRAKES, ADAS CALIBRATIONS, WHICH ARE LIKE ADVANCED VEHICLE DRIVING THINGS THAT WE RELY ON EVERY DAY, LIKE LANE DEPARTURE WARNINGS, FRONT FACING CAMERAS, REAR FACING CAMERAS. EXHAUST IS UNDOUBTEDLY A DYING BUSINESS. VEHICLES ARE GOING ELECTRIC HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION. SO I MEAN IT MAKES UP ABOUT 30% OF MY BUSINESS. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. I JUST HAD SOME COMMENTS AT THE END, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SAY NOW, IF YOU ALL HAD QUESTIONS, SHOULD WE WAIT FOR DELIBERATION FOR WHEN WE GET THAT ITEM AGAIN? THE ONLY REASON I WOULD DO IS THAT THAT WAS MY PLAN. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE AND I WANT TO LET THEM KNOW KIND OF WHERE I STAND IS I DO HAVE CONCERNS FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, HOW MANY TIMES THEY CAN COME BEFORE HERE. I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION. AND YOU KNOW, IS IT, IS IT 2? IS IT 3? IT FOR SURE SHOULDN'T BE 10 OR 15. I DON'T I MEAN, BUT I'M IN AGREEANCE THAT. IS THIS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMEONE MENTIONED BEATING DOWN. IF YOU JUST KEEP SUBMITTING AND THEY PAY THE APPLICANT FEE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER OF GOING. WE CAN'T JUST HAVE SOMEONE SUBMIT 10, 15 TIMES. AND MOST DEFINITELY, I'LL ASK STAFF IF THERE'S THINGS THEY CAN LOOK AT OF ADDRESSING THAT SITUATION. SPECIFIC TO THIS, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN MY STANCE BEFORE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THIS OPERATOR. I'VE NEVER MET HIM, BUT WHAT I DO IS EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, IS TRYING TO DO IF IT'S BUILDING THEIR HOME AND THEY WANT THEIR HOUSE DOOR BLUE OR THEY WANT TO OPEN A BUSINESS IS TRYING TO TREAT EVERYONE FAIRLY. AND SOME PEOPLE WILL FEEL LIKE IT'S ATTACKED OR YOU'RE PUSHING IT INTO MY BACKYARD. YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO PUT IN MY, NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I. WE HAVE THINGS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I'VE GOT A LOT OF, I'M NOT A SPORTS CAR, BUT I ASSURE YOU, ALL MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SPORTS CARS AND THEY'RE LOUD AND THEY. YOU KNOW, I HEAR THEM. SO IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T HEAR NOISES ALSO BUT WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND EVEN OFFER, I'M VERY FORTUNATE THAT I'LL GIVE OF MY TIME THIS, THIS SATURDAY IF YOU CAN FIND IF IT'S A MUFFLER SHOP I THINK WHAT FOR WHAT HE DESCRIBED AND I THINK I REMEMBER THERE'S A 4X4 PLACE THAT'S THREE TIMES LARGER DOWN BY THE MALL. I'LL GIVE UP MY SATURDAY AND YOU TELL ME WHAT TIME YOU WANT ME TO BE THERE. IF IT'S WHEN THEY OPEN FROM 8 TO NOON, OR YOU WANT ME THERE FROM NOON TO 5. AND WHEN THEY'RE BUSIEST DAY. AND LET'S SIT THERE. AND IF WE SIT THERE TOGETHER AND SAY, WOW, THIS IS LOUD. WELL, THEN I'LL BE LIKE, THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE, BUT I'M WILLING TO GO ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO TO HEAR BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S SAYING, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD. I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THEIR ACTIONS, I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE TRASH AROUND. AND I'M NOT SAYING THOSE AREN'T TRUE, BUT WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS GOING, LET'S FIND EXAMPLES SO THAT WE CAN GO AFTER, GO AFTER THAT. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO GIVE MY TIME. IF THERE'S ANYONE AFTERWARDS, GRAB MY PHONE NUMBER, MY EMAIL, AND I, I WANT TO EXPERIENCE WHAT YOU GUYS EXPERIENCE SO THAT WE CAN BOTH WITH OUR OWN EYES RATHER THAN SAY, I FEEL IS GO, I SEE IT. AND SO IF JUST LET KNOW I'M WILLING TO OFFER THAT. THANK YOU. CAN I SAY WITH THAT AS MUCH AS THE REST OF US MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN JOHN TO DO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T WANT TO VIOLATE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. SO YES, I WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WE CAN'T HAVE ALL OF US TOGETHER? YEAH. WE CAN ALL SHOW UP TOGETHER ON A SATURDAY ON A ZONING CASE, ON AN OPEN ZONING CASE. SO JUST IF JOHN'S THE ONLY 1 WHO SHOWS UP, THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WHY. [00:40:05] OR WE'D HAVE TO DO IT ON 5 DAYS IN A ROW OR 6 DAYS IN A ROW OR SOMETHING. SO. I'M SORRY. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? BUT I THINK IT IS IF YOU PICK ANYWHERE WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT THIS, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE MY TIME SO THAT I CAN EXPERIENCE WHAT IS BEING SAID IS EXPERIENCE BECAUSE MY OBSERVATION, I'M NOT SEEING THAT. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO GO ANYWHERE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT I'M SEEING AND I'LL GO WITH YOU. CAN I JUST ADD ON THERE TO MAKE IT SIMPLER? BECAUSE I'M NOT SAYING I HEARD WHAT SHE SAID, BUT ALL OUR EMAILS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, I WOULD SAY SEND IT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND LET EACH COMMISSIONER DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO DO THAT. AND THEN I THINK WE'LL SEE WHO'S GOING AND WHO'S NOT TO MAKE IT FAIR. SO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT YOU CAN EXCLUDE ME FROM THAT LIST. I'M OKAY. WELL, TAKE WARREN OFF THE LIST, BUT THAT STILL LEAVES THE REST OF US. SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO TABLE WHEN THIS MEETING COMES BACK AGAIN BEFORE US. WE WILL HAVE A FULL STAFF PRESENTATION AND FULL TIME AGAIN FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND FULL TIME FOR DISCOURSE. SO TONIGHT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORTENED SECTION SINCE IT IS A REQUEST TO TABLE. SO IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS DIRECTLY THAT NEED TO GET ADDRESSED TODAY, THEN I WILL TAKE A MOTION. WHAT'S THE DATE? WE'RE TRYING TO TABLE IT TO APRIL 14TH. APRIL 14TH. I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE ITEM NUMBER 9 TO THE APRIL 14TH 2020 P&Z MEETING. SECOND. MOTION BY STEVE, SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. AND I HOPE THAT YOU COME BACK. SO. MOST OF US WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETING TOO. IF YOU WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION DIRECTLY. YES, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK AFTERWARDS AS WELL. YES, WE DO NEED TO GET SEAN. HAVE WE EVER FORGOTTEN SOMEBODY BEFORE? I'M SURE YOU WOULD THINK. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE DID. SOME OTHER P&Z COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. SEAN IS BACK ON THE DAIS. ITEM NUMBER 10. [Results of the March 17, 2026, City Council meeting.] RESULTS OF THE MARCH 3RD, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IT'S FUNNY NOT HAVING JOHN HERE. I KNOW. HEY. SO ALL THE ITEMS THAT WENT TO MARCH 3RD OR 17TH. MARCH 17TH? OH, YEAH. OKAY, SO EVERYTHING THAT WENT TO THE MARCH 13TH MEETING WAS APPROVED. WE HAD 1 ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD A MEETING WITH THE HOA, WHICH IS WHERE JOHN AND JONATHAN ARE AT THIS EVENING. SORRY. I REALIZED I SAID THE 3RD AND I MEANT TO SAY THE 17TH. I JUST CAUGHT ON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER 11, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS. [Schedule of future discussion items.] DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE ARE NOW AT WARREN'S FAVORITE MOTION. MOVE TO ADJOURN. MOTION BY WARREN, SECOND BY SEAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:14 P.M. THANK YOU SO MUCH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.