[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] ALL RIGHT, WELCOME TO THE MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE AT FRISCO CITY HALL, THE GEORGIA PURE 4 MUNICIPAL CENTER AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 6101 FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD IN FRISCO, TEXAS. IT IS 511 P.M. ON TUESDAY, MARCH 17, 2026, AND I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE ARE JOINED BY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. THAT MOVES [CLOSED SESSION] INTO CLOSED SESSION. ITEM 2, RECESS INTO CLOSED SESSION IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 551.001, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, ITEM A, SECTION 551.071, MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. REGARDING A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE CITY ATTORNEY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CONFLICTS WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT REGARDING 1. RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PROPOSED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, AND OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS FOR THE USE OF THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER AND RELATED ISSUES. ITEM B, SECTION 551.072, TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY. LOCATED 1, NORTH OF STONEBROOK, WEST OF PRESTON, EAST OF DALLAS-NORTH, TOLLWAY, AND SOUTH OF EL DORADO. AND ITEM TWO, NORTH OF EL DORADO, WEST OF PRESTON, EAST OF DALLAS, NORTH TOLLWAY, AND SOUTH OF PGA PARKWAY. AND ITEM C, SECTION 551.087, DELIBERATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT. OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT I HAVE A MOTION. MOTION BY BRIAN. SECOND. SECOND BY LAURA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES 6-0. RECESS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5-12. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? MOTION BY BRYAN, SECOND BY BYRD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT PASSES 6-0. AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS NO ACTION FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE. AND WE ARE RECONVENED AT 6.31 P.M. AND I WILL TURN IT [INVOCATION] OVER TO LAURA FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. THIS EVENING, OUR INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED PROVIDED BY JESSICA SKIDMORE, PASTOR AND EXECUTIVE LEADER AT ELEVATE LIFE CHURCH, WHERE SHE SERVES AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF EXPERIENCE. SHE OVERSEES KEY AREAS OF MINISTRY AND HELPS SHAPE THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE OF THE CONGREGATION. SHE IS ALSO MARRIED AND HAS CHILDREN. ELEVATE LIFE CHURCH, ALSO CALLED THE CATHEDRAL OF FRISCO, IS A NON-DENOMINATIONAL CHURCH FOUNDED 26 YEARS AGO BY LEAD PASTORS KEITH AND SHEILA CRAFT. THANK YOU AND WELCOME FOR PRAYING FOR US TODAY. THANK YOU. IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO BE HERE, REPRESENTING ELEVATE LIFE CHURCH AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY BY OFFERING TONIGHT'S INVOCATION. SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. AND ALL THE COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY, THE GUESTS HERE TODAY. SO PLEASE JOIN ME AS WE BOW OUR HEADS IN PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH HEARTS FULL OF GRATITUDE. WE INVITE YOUR PRESENCE INTO THIS PLACE AND ASK THAT YOU PRESIDE OVER THIS MEETING. THANK YOU FOR BEING A GOD WHO LOVES US AND FOR THE UNIQUE PURPOSE AND GIFTS YOU'VE PLACED WITHIN EACH OF US. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR NEIGHBORS AND TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PEOPLE, THE RESOURCES, AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES ENTRUSTED TO THE CITY. TONIGHT, WE LIFT UP OUR MAYOR, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND EVERY MEMBER OF OUR CITY STAFF. WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE AND DEDICATION TO THIS COMMUNITY. WE ASK FOR YOUR PROVISION, YOUR FAVOR, YOUR PROTECTION OVER EACH OF THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. LORD, GRANT THEM WISDOM BEYOND THEIR UNDERSTANDING. GIVE THEM STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT SERVES THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL CITIZENS. MAY EVERY DECISION BE GUIDED BY INTEGRITY, HUMILITY, AND A GENUINE CARE FOR THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT. AS THEY CONSIDER THE AGENDA BEFORE THEM TONIGHT, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THEIR THOUGHTS, CONVERSATION, AND DECISIONS. BRING CLARITY WHERE THERE ARE CHALLENGES AND INSPIRE CREATIVITY AS SOLUTIONS ARE DISCUSSED. HELP THIS MEETING TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND FRUITFUL. GIVE THEM A SPIRIT OF UNITY AS THEY WORK TOGETHER TOWARD THE SHARED MISSION OF SERVING THE CITY WELL. DIRECT THEIR WORDS, DECISIONS, AND ACTIONS TOWARDS THE RIGHT PATH. WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE MANY PEOPLE WHO SERVE AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY. AND ALL THOSE THAT WORK EACH DAY TO MAKE THIS PLACE WE CALL HOME SUCH A WONDERFUL CITY. MAY THE CITY CONTINUE TO FLOURISH. MAY ITS PEOPLE BE BLESSED, ITS LEADERS BE GUIDED, AND MAY PEACE, WISDOM, AND PROSPERITY REST UPON THIS COMMUNITY. WE GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. NEXT FOR OUR PLEDGE, WE HAVE BOY SCOUT TROOP 216, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMING TO THE STAGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. [00:05:03] ALRIGHT WELL THANK YOU ALL YOU'LL HANG OUT THERE FOR JUST ONE MOMENT. WE ALWAYS LIKE TO WELCOME OUR SCOUTS. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE WITH US TONIGHT. AND I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND ASK KIND OF ONE BURNING QUESTION. SO HERE'S KIND OF THE GIG. IT'S JUST YOUR NAME, YOUR GRADE, SCHOOL. AND YOUR TOUGH QUESTION FOR TONIGHT IS, SO TODAY IS OUR CITY MANAGER WES PEARSON'S BIRTHDAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S SPENDING IT WITH US WORKING. SO TO MAKE HIM FEEL EVEN WORSE, I WANT YOU TO SAY FOR YOUR NEXT BIRTHDAY, WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEND IT IN FRISCO. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FAVORITE PLACE OR FAVORITE THING THAT YOU COULD BE DOING ON YOUR BIRTHDAY? THAT WES CAN SIT OVER HERE AND WISH HE WAS DOING TONIGHT? SORRY, WES. YOU GUYS READY? YOU CAN PASS IT. SO NAME, AGE, SCHOOL. YOU COULD DO YOUR BIRTHDAY ANYWHERE IN FRISCO. MY NAME IS IAN, I'M IN FIFTH GRADE AND I'M TEN YEARS OLD AND THE MALL? YEAH, SURE. YOU LIKE THE MALL? MY NAME'S AYANCH. I'M IN FIFTH GRADE, I'M 10, AND I'LL SPEND IT PLAYING TENNIS AT MY TENNIS ACADEMY. MY NAME IS AUSTIN, I'M IN NINTH GRADE, I GO TO REEDY HIGH SCHOOL, AND I WOULD GO ROCK CLIMBING AT CANYONS ROCK CLIMBING GYM. HI, MY NAME IS VISHNU, AND I'M 11, AND I GO TO LAWLER MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I WOULD SPEND MY BIRTHDAY AT LIKE, MAIN EVENT OR PINSTOCK. MY NAME IS PRITISH. I'M IN SIXTH GRADE. I GO TO LAWLOR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IF I COULD SPEND MY BIRTHDAY ANYWHERE, I WOULD GO TO IFLY INDOOR SKYDIVING. MY NAME IS ARYA PATAP. I'M 13 YEARS OLD. I GO TO PIONEER HERITAGE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO SPEND MY BIRTHDAY AT HOME PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. HI, MY NAME IS CHRIS. I'M IN EIGHTH GRADE AND I'M 13. I GO TO CLARK MIDDLE SCHOOL AND I'D LIKE TO GO TO PINSTACK AND SPEND TIME WITH MY FRIENDS ON MY BIRTHDAY. HI, MY NAME IS ARAV. I'M IN 10TH GRADE AND I'M CURRENTLY GOING TO RICHLAND HIGH SCHOOL. IF I COULD CELEBRATE MY BIRTHDAY ANYWHERE, I'D BE CELEBRATING AT HOME WITH MY FAMILY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO APPRECIATE ME MOST. MY NAME IS ADITYA. I'M IN 10TH GRADE AND I GO TO RICHLAND HIGH SCHOOL. AND I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PLACE, BUT I'D PROBABLY GO SOMEWHERE NICE TO EAT FOR MY BIRTHDAY. I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE IN FRISCO TO GO TO ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL PARKS THAT FRISCO OFFERS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SQUEEZE. THERE YOU GO. Y'ALL THREE KIND OF MOVE UP THERE. THERE WE GO. WE HAVE TO FACE YOUR FANS OVER HERE. ALRIGHT, LET'S THANK OUR SCOUTS AGAIN. WE HAVE SOME FRISCO PINS FOR Y'ALL. I'M GOING TO HAND YOU TO MAKE YOU IN CHARGE, BUT THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE. MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. [Cindy Lima - 20 Years of Service] ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A COUPLE PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. ONE IS TO CELEBRATE CINDY LEMUS, 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. SO, CINDY AND ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN YOU, MAKE YOUR WAY UP COME ON, BRING THE WHOLE CREW. COME ON, EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT, AND IT READS, WHEREAS CINDY LIMA BEGAN HER SERVICE TO THE CITY OF FRISCO IN 2005 AS AN ACCOUNTANT TEMP IN THE OLD CITY HALL BUILDING. BEFORE MOVING INTO A FULL-TIME ROLE IN 2006 AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE AND CENTRAL CASHIER IN REVENUE COLLECTIONS. AND WHEREAS IN 2011, CINDY BROUGHT HER TALENTS TO ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, WHERE HER RELIABILITY, ACCURACY, AND DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIELD BECAME INDISPENSABLE. IN 2019, SHE WAS PROMOTED TO SENIOR ACCOUNTING TECHNICIAN, A ROLE IN WHICH SHE CONTINUES [00:10:01] TO EXCEL. THROUGH HER EXPERTISE, PROFESSIONALISM, AND STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO ENSURING SMOOTH AND EFFICIENT OPERATIONS. AND WHEREAS CINDY EMBODIES A SPIRIT OF JOY AND CONNECTION THROUGH CHERISHED TRADITIONS, WHETHER CHEERING ON HER GRANDCHILDREN AT THEIR SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES, CREATING MEMORIES WHILE MAKING GINGERBREAD HOUSES, ENJOYING PEACEFUL DAYS AT THE LAKE PROPERTY, OR ROCKING OUT AT CLASSIC ROCK CONCERTS. AND WHEREAS HER CONTRIBUTIONS EXTEND FAR BEYOND HER JOB DUTIES, AS SHE IS KNOWN FOR ELEVATING HOLIDAY CELEBRATIONS, ESPECIALLY EASTER, WHERE SHE SERVES AS THE DEPARTMENT'S EXPERT EGG HIDER, AND FOR BRIGHTENING THE WORKPLACE IN THOUGHTFUL TRINKETS, SPONTANEOUS BUBBLE MACHINE MOMENTS, AND AN EVER-PRESENT SUPPLY OF DR. PEPPER. HOW COME YOU'VE NEVER BROUGHT THIS TO COUNCIL MEETINGS? AND WHEREAS CINDY'S WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT HER TEAM, HER GENEROSITY OF SPIRIT, AND HER DEDICATION TO BOTH HER FAMILY AND THE CITY OF FRISCO MAKE HER A TREASURED COLLEAGUE AND A SHINING EXAMPLE OF SERVICE. DELIVERED WITH HEART. SHE IS RECOGNIZED FOR HER EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE, HER VIBRANT SPIRIT, AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT SHE MAKES EACH DAY. HER LEGACY OF DEDICATION, JOY, AND KINDNESS CONTINUES TO INSPIRE ALL WHO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE HER. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JEFF CHANEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FRISCO, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY BESTOW SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF FRISCO. AND PROCLAIM MARCH 17, 2026, AS CINDY LIMA DAY. TESTING. OKAY, THIS IS MY HUSBAND DANNY AND MY SON CHAD. AND I HAVE A DAUGHTER, BUT SHE THOUGHT HER TRIP TO MEXICO WAS MORE IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW. SHE'S WATCHING ONLINE. PROBABLY NOT. SHE'S PROBABLY AT THE BEACH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW. YOU HAVE ANOTHER 20 YEARS LEFT IN YOU? I'M GETTING ON UP THERE. I DON'T KNOW. I'LL TRY. HOW ABOUT THAT? THAT. ALRIGHT, LET'S THANK CINDY AND FAMILY ONE MORE TIME. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A TWOFER [Henry "Hank" Johnson-20 Years of Service] TONIGHT, SO HANK JOHNSON CELEBRATING 20 YEARS. MAN, THANK GOODNESS THIS GUY DIDN'T RUN FOR MAYOR OF COUNCIL. WE'D BE IN TROUBLE. POPULAR. ALL RIGHT. WHEREAS HENRY OR HANK? JOHNSON BEGAN HIS SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF FRISCO ON MARCH 27, 2006, AND CURRENTLY SERVES AS CREW LEADER IN FRISCO PUBLIC WORKS METERS DIVISION. AND WHEREAS HANK JOHNSON'S LIFE HAS BEEN MARKED NOT ONLY BY DEDICATED WORK, BUT BY PASSIONS THAT ENRICH THE SPIRIT. HIS COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY BEGAN LONG BEFORE JOINING THE CITY. INCLUDING THREE YEARS SERVING THE YOUTH OF FRISCO AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. AND CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH HIS WORK WITH PRIMMO SCHOOL, BERRY BEST ACADEMY, AND PETTY ANN'S FLOWERS ON MAIN STREET. AND WHEREAS, SINCE JOINING THE CITY OF FRISCO IN 2006, HANK JOHNSON HAS EXEMPLIFIED LOYALTY, RELIABILITY, AND PERSEVERANCE, CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATING A STRONG WORK ETHIC AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY. WHEREAS, AMONGST HIS GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE HIS DAILY ACTS OF PURPOSE, POSITIVITY AND KINDNESS, BRIGHTENING THE DAYS OF THOSE AROUND HIM. HENRY IS KNOWN FOR EMBRACING LIFE'S JOYS, SMOKING FINE CIGARS, LISTENING TO MUSIC, GATHERING WITH FRIENDS, AND PLAYING THE DRUMS. HE'S THE MOST INTERESTING MAN IN THE WORLD. JEFF CHANEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FRISCO, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY BESTOW SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF FRISCO. AND PROCLAIM MARCH 17TH, 2026, AS HANK JOHNSON DAY. LET'S HEAR IT FOR HANK. WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW I [00:15:03] WAS GOING TO BE SHARING WITH CINDY LIMA, SO IT WOULD BE LIMA JOHNSON. SOUND LIKE A LAW FIRM. WELL, I WANT TO THANK ALL MY FAMILY THAT MADE IT. FUEGO FAMILY BACK THERE SMELL LIKE CIGARS. BUT YEAH, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THIS DAY TO MY PARENTS WHO ARE NOT HERE. YOU KNOW, MY DAD PASSED AWAY DECEMBER OF 20 YEARS THIS YEAR. AND MY MOM, THE DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY IN 2007, BESTOWED ALL THIS UPON ME TO GIVE TO Y'ALL. AND I BET SOME OF Y'ALL ARE LIKE, THEY GAVE HIM THE MICROPHONE. YEAH, I WAS LIKE, YEAH, WES, I TOLD YOU. BUT NO, YEAH, IT'S BEEN A GOOD 20 YEARS. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I CHANGED MY NAME TO FRISCO KING. AND ALSO, I AM THE MAYOR OF FRISCO SQUARE. SO THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE. THOSE OF Y'ALL CAN MAKE IT. AND PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE, I SEE YOU. WELL, THANK Y'ALL AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING. BE SAFE WHEN Y'ALL GET TO YOUR HOMES. COME ON, ALRIGHT, LET'S HEAR IT FOR HANK ONE MORE TIME. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE [Frisco Environmental Services and Sustainability Division - The North Texas Community and Mayor's Cleanup Challenge] PROCLAMATION. THIS IS TO CELEBRATE OUR NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY AND MAYOR'S CLEANUP CHALLENGE. WE'VE GOT OUR TEAM COMING UP HERE. HANK'S A TOUGH SHOW TO FOLLOW, BUT I'M CONFIDENT. ALL RIGHT, THE PROCLAMATION READS, WHEREAS THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS NTCCC, IS AN ANNUAL REGION-WIDE LITTER CLEANUP COMPETITION ORGANIZED BY THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. THAT ENCOURAGES THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITIES TO WORK TOGETHER TO REDUCE LITTER, BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND PROTECT ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. AND WHEREAS? THE CITY OF FRISCO'S ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION HAS PROUDLY PARTICIPATED IN THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, DEMONSTRATING ITS ONGOING COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, COMMUNITY PRIDE, AND SUSTAINABILITY. AND WHEREAS? THE 2026 FIFA WORLD CUP HAS ESTABLISHED SEVERAL SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES IN ADVANCE OF THE GLOBAL SPORTING EVENT, INCLUDING TREE PLANTING EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY LITTER CLEANUP ACTIVITIES. AND WHEREAS FIFA HAS PARTNERED WITH NETCOG ON THE FIFTH ANNUAL NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE, FURTHER HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON BOTH A REGIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SCALE. AND WHEREAS THE 2026 NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE WILL TAKE PLACE FROM MARCH 1ST THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2026, PROVIDING RESIDENTS, VOLUNTEERS, AND ORGANIZATIONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO REMOVE LITTER AND IMPROVE LOCAL ENVIRONMENTS. AND WHEREAS PARTICIPATION IN THIS EVENT FOSTERS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, PROMOTES ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS, AND REGIONAL COLLABORATION, WITH THE MAYOR'S CHALLENGE, THE CITY OF FRISCO DEMONSTRATES ITS SUPPORT OF THE NEXT NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE, AND IT ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND BUSINESSES TO TAKE ON AN ACTIVE ROLE IN KEEPING NORTH TEXAS CLEAN. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JEFF CHANEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FRISCO, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE MONTHS OF MARCH THROUGH MAY 2026 AS THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY AND MAYOR'S CLEANUP CHALLENGE MONTH. SO, THANK Y'ALL. HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS JACKIE SUDEIKY. I SERVE AS THE CITY'S [00:20:01] SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. WE INVITE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR CLEAN IT AND GREEN IT EARTH DAY LITTER CLEANUP EVENT, TAKING PLACE ON APRIL 18TH. IT SUPPORTS THIS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE. BRING YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR NEIGHBORS. WE INVITE YOU ALL. WE SUPPLY ALL THE MATERIALS. WE WILL PICK UP YOUR LITTER, WEIGH IT, AND YOU'LL TAKE PART IN KEEPING FRISCO CLEAN. THANKS EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S THANK OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TEAM AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, [Council comment or acknowledgement of proclamations issued by the Mayor.] COUNCIL, THAT WILL MOVE US TO TO ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS COUNCIL COMMENT OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PROCLAMATIONS ISSUED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. ANYTHING NOTED? I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A VERY HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY. TRADITIONAL WAY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, MAY THE SUN ALWAYS SHINE TO YOUR FACE, MAY THE WIND ALWAYS BE TO YOUR BACK, AND MAY GOD HOLD YOU IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND. AND WITH THAT, PLEASE BE SAFE TONIGHT IF YOU GO OUT AND CELEBRATE. AND IF YOU'VE HAD ONE TOO MANY TO CELEBRATE TODAY. DEFINITELY CALL AN UBER, GET A RIDE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. OKAY, THAT [Visit Frisco February Sales and Marketing Report and World Cup Update.] WILL TAKE US TO OUR REPORT SECTION. ITEM 8 IS OUR VISIT FRISCO REPORT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THAT JANUARY WAS A LITTLE BIT SLOW, AND PART OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH FCS NOT BEING HERE, BUT ALSO THE WEEK OF ICE THAT WE HAD. REALLY KILLED A LOT OF GROUP BUSINESS, BUT I DID SEE OUR FEBRUARY REPORT THIS MORNING AND IT LOOKED REALLY STRONG, SO WE'LL HAVE BETTER NUMBERS TO REFLECT. I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SAY A NOTE OF CONGRATS TO OUR MARKETING TEAM. THEY LAUNCHED A DRIP CAMPAIGN MID JANUARY TO OUR CONVENTION CLIENT DATABASE, WHICH WAS ABOUT 5,800. AND RIGHT OFF, JUST TODAY, WE'VE HAD 143 LEADS. AND AFTER LOST BUSINESS, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 80 THAT WE'RE TARGETING. SO IT'S BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO IT'S A NEW INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE, SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THEM FOR WORKING WITH OUR SALES TEAM TO GET THAT LAUNCHED. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. COUNSEL, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US [Development Services activity monthly update report for the month of February 2026.] TO ITEM NINE, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REPORT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RALANDRIA RUSSELL WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. YOU ALL HAVE OUR FEBRUARY REPORT IN YOUR PACKET AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ON THE DEVELOPMENT REPORT? ALL [Fire Department monthly report on incident responses and educational activities for the month of February 2026.] RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM 10 IS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. LEE GLOVER, FIRE CHIEF. ON MARCH 2ND, 2026, FRISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT AMENDED A PEAK DEMAND AMBULANCE PROGRAM THAT WILL OPERATE DAILY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8 A.M. AND 8 P.M. THE PEAK DEMAND PROGRAM WILL INCREASE OUR TOTAL AMBULANCE COUNT FROM 7 TO 8 FOR A 12-HOUR PERIOD THAT IT'S IN SERVICE. THIS DECISION WAS MADE FOLLOWING THE CONTINUOUS INCREASE IN AMBULANCE CALL VOLUME OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. WE EXPECT THIS UNIT TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO THE ENTIRE EMS SYSTEM DURING OUR BUSIEST TIME FRAME OF THE DAY. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS MONTHLY. LOOKING AT OUR DATA TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL THE RIGHT THING TO DO. JUNIOR CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY APPLICATION PERIOD WILL OPEN ON APRIL 1ST. THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS WHO LIVE IN FRISCO OR ATTEND FRISCO SCHOOLS. SIMILAR TO OUR CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY, THIS PROGRAM GIVES STUDENTS A FRONT ROW SEAT IN THE FRISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS, TRAINING, AND NORMAL A DAY FUNCTIONS. THIS PROGRAM IS FREE TO ATTEND AND RUNS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9 AND 3 P.M. EACH DAY AND CONCLUDES WITH A GRADUATION ON EACH FRIDAY AT NOON THAT WE INVITE FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO COME TO THE GRADUATION. THESE CLASSES WILL BE OFFERED ON JUNE 1ST THROUGH THE 5TH AND JUNE 8TH THROUGH THE 12TH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ATTEND, PLEASE GO TO FRISCOFIRE.COM AND GO [00:25:01] TO THE PROGRAM SECTION AND GO DOWN TO THE LINK FOR THE JUNIOR CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY. WE'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS ABOUT OUR FREE CPR AED AWARENESS CLASS AND STOP THE BLEED CLASSES. WE OFFER IT ON THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH FROM 630 TO 9 P.M. STOP THE BLEED OCCURS ON ODD MONTHS. AND CPR AND AED AWARENESS IS ON EVEN MONTHS. AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND ONE OF THESE CLASSES, GO TO FRISCOFIRE.COM AND REGISTER ONLINE. WITH THAT, YOU HAVE OUR FEBRUARY REPORT. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHIEF. [Police Department's crime and statistics reports for the month of February 2026.] AND ITEM 11 IS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DAVID CHILSON, CHIEF OF POLICE. I'LL START WITH, YOU WERE SENT OUR LATEST BIAS-BASED PROFILING REPORT. THIS IS A REPORT THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO THE STATE BY LAW, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WE WERE DOING THIS REPORT LONG BEFORE IT WAS REQUIRED BY LAW. SO THIS IS THE 22ND YEAR THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED THIS REPORT, AND REALLY JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM IT. YOU CAN SEE, YEAR OVER YEAR THE NUMBERS ARE VERY SIMILAR. ONE THING THAT WE DID NOTICE IN OUR REPORT WAS WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE IN RACIAL PROFILING COMPLAINTS. HOWEVER, THAT INCREASE, ALL THOSE COMPLAINTS WERE... UNFOUNDED, AND SO CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT. THIS REPORT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN SCAN THAT QR CODE, IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE OFF OF OUR WEBSITE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE REPORT AS WELL. I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WE RECENTLY HAD OUR ANNUAL AWARDS BANQUET AND MANY OF YOU WERE THERE, HAD A CHANCE TO BE THERE. WE DON'T EVER WANT TO TAKE FOR GRANTED THE GREAT WORK THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DO, BOTH SWORN AND NON-SWORN. REALLY, JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EVENING WERE THE SIX LIFE-SAVING AWARDS THAT WE HONORED. ALL OF THOSE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THAT, AS WELL AS ALL THE AWARD RECIPIENTS IN THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES THAT WE HAD. REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CHIEF'S UNIT AWARD, WHICH WAS OUR TRAINING DIVISION. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT UNIT RECEIVED THE CHIEF'S UNIT AWARD THIS YEAR WAS, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, WE STARTED OUR FIRST POLICE ACADEMY HERE IN FRISCO. AND THAT WAS A HUGE LIFT FOR OUR TRAINING DIVISION. THEY TOOK IT ON, AND WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED OUR THIRD POLICE ACADEMY. SO WE WERE IN OUR THIRD CLASS. SO THAT GROUP, VERY HARDWORKING. THAT WAS A BIG PROJECT, AND THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE EACH ACADEMY CLASS BETTER. I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CHIEF'S AWARD FOR SERVICE THAT WE RECOGNIZED OUR IT DEPARTMENT. CERTAINLY, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, IT'S THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. AND OUR IT DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN GUIDING US THROUGH WHAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST TECHNOLOGY PROJECT IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY. AS WE CHANGED FROM ONE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO ANOTHER SYSTEM. AND THIS WAS A HUGE LIFT, DIDN'T JUST AFFECT US, AFFECTED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, AND SO THEY HELPED GET US THROUGH THAT TRANSITION. WE'RE STILL LEARNING OUR NEW SYSTEM, BUT IT IS PROVIDING US A LOT MORE FUNCTIONALITY THAN WE'VE EVER HAD. AND THAT WILL PAY BIG DIVIDENDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY. HERE IN FRISCO, WHICH WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT OUR IT DEPARTMENT, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE SAY THAT OPPORTUNITY LIVES HERE IN FRISCO. COMING UP ON THE 27TH, WE WILL CELEBRATE THE LATEST PROMOTIONS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, AND WE WILL SWEAR IN ANOTHER SET OF OFFICERS. AND SO JUST A WAY THAT WE WELCOME AND RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT ARE BEING PROMOTED AND THOSE THAT ARE JUST JOINING US. SO CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO ATTEND THAT IF THEY WANT. IF YOU CAN'T BE HERE, IT'S ALSO LIVE STREAMED ON FACEBOOK. WITH THAT, YOU HAVE OUR FEBRUARY REPORT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, AND ITEM 12 IS OUR [Rail District Update.] RAIL DISTRICT UPDATE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JASON BRODIGAN, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES. JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON CONSTRUCTION [00:30:01] IN THE RAIL DISTRICT. THE AESTHETIC FEATURES ON MAIN STREET KEEP KIND OF ROLLING IN. YOU SHOULD SEE PLANTER BOXES NOW, AND I BELIEVE TRASH CANS WERE DELIVERED AND INSTALLED TODAY. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THIS, BUT WHEN THE TREES START TO BUD HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, IT'S GONNA LOOK EVEN BETTER. FOR 4TH STREET PLAZA, CONCRETE POURS ARE CONTINUING, WHICH WILL HELP US GET THE BRICK PAVERS IN. IT'S A REALLY BIG STEP. IN THE NEXT WEEK, WE OUGHT TO START SEEING THE SUPPORT COLUMNS FOR THE SHADE STRUCTURE START TO ARRIVE. AND FINALLY, THE PARKING GARAGE IS STILL WORKING ON THE FACADE, THE MEP, THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND THEN IT STARTED THE HARDSCAPE ON 3RD AND 5TH STREETS. SO GOOD PROGRESS BEING MADE, STARTING TO LOOK REALLY GOOD. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE CONSTRUCTION. WHEN WILL THE PLANTS START GOING IN THE FLOWER POTS? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION YET, BUT I WILL GET IT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO BUG YOU EVERY TIME. ARE WE STILL ON TRACK FOR THE PLAZA? WE ARE ON TRACK. WE WILL BE DONE BY JUNE. WE WILL BE DONE. OKAY. GOOD ANSWER. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. A QUICK UPDATE ON THE GIFT CARD PROGRAM. IT'S EXPIRED. YEAH, IT'S EXPIRED. THE GIFT CARDS HAVE ALL BEEN REDEEMED, OR THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REDEEMED BACK TO THE CHAMBER OR A THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, THE GRAND TOTAL SO FAR IS OVER $400,000 WORTH OF PHYSICAL GIFT CARDS HAVE BEEN REDEEMED AT PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES IN THE REL DISTRICT. THE DIGITAL GIFT CARD PROGRAM, THE BONUS CARD PROGRAM PORTION OF IT, HAS EXPIRED. APPROXIMATELY $548,000 HAVE BEEN REDEEMED, TOTAL. OF THAT, 232 ARE GIFT CARDS THAT DO NOT EXPIRE, AND 315,000 GIFT CARDS WERE THE BONUS GIFT CARDS THAT DO EXPIRE, THAT HAVE EXPIRED. OUR ADVERTISING PROGRAM, AGAIN, THIS IS STATIC, BUT $123,000 IN DIRECT INVESTMENT. SINCE THIS PROGRAM WENT LIVE. AND WE'D CONTINUE WITH THE DIGITAL MARKETING EFFORTS FOR THE BILLBOARDS. SO AS A REMINDER, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE WINTER WORK SESSION. OUR NEAR TERM GOALS, AS JASON MENTIONED, IS FINISHED CONSTRUCTION, KICK OFF THE DOWNTOWN CIRCULATOR, COMPLETE ALL THE WORK DOWNTOWN, AND BEGIN TO PIVOT TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. THE LONG TERM STRATEGY IS ACTIVATION OF EVENTS, IMPLEMENTING LEASING STRATEGY FOR THE GARAGE, RETAIL, AND OTHER CITY-OWNED BUILDINGS, DEFINE AND IMPLEMENT THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, AND EVALUATE DOWNTOWN CIRCULATOR PILOT. SO THESE ARE KIND OF THE GOALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 AND BEYOND. SO NEXT STEPS, EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS. WE'RE GOING TO ROLL OUT ANOTHER DIGITAL GIFT CARD PROGRAM BEGINNING JUNE 1ST. AND ALSO HELP MARKET THAT TO WORLD CUP TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING TO FRISCO. WE'RE GOING TO ROLL OUT THE ADVERTISING GRANT PROGRAM ON APRIL 15TH. WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A MURAL ON THE SIDE OF THE OLD CITY HALL, THE FORMER SCHOOL OF ROCK BUILDING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN CIRCULATOR BEGINNING IN JUNE, ONCE THE GARAGE IS COMPLETE. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS IN COORDINATION WITH THE RAIL DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD, RAIL DISTRICT ROUNDUP, AND MERCHANTS ON MAIN, FORMERLY THE SAVE MAIN GROUP. WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, HOLIDAY DECORATIONS, PROGRAMMING, AND THE ACTIVATIONS I MENTIONED ABOVE. AND ALSO, A FORTHCOMING WILL BE AN APRIL WORK SESSION, A DEEP DIVE INTO THE SPECIAL EVENTS PLANNED FOR THE 4TH STREET PLAZA. SO, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. YOU CAN STILL GO OUT AND BUY A GIFT CARD. JUST NO BONUS MATCH, NOT UNTIL JUNE 1ST. WE DID NOTICE WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, INITIALLY IN NOVEMBER, THAT THERE WAS A HUGE RUSH OF EXCITEMENT. SO WE WANT TO TIME THAT EXCITEMENT JUNE 1ST WITH THE GRAND OPENING EVENTS THAT WE'RE HAVING DOWNTOWN. RIGHT, RIGHT. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR BEN? BEN, CAN YOU JUST EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT YOU MEAN BY DOWNTOWN CIRCULATOR? WE'RE EVALUATING AN ELECTRICAL VEHICLE, IT'S A LARGE BUS. CAPACITY UP TO 18 PEOPLE, ADA COMPLIANT, ACCESSIBLE, AND THE GENERAL PATH WOULD BE THE PARKING GARAGE. DOWNTOWN ON COME DOWN ELM STREET, IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE, TO NORTH COUNTY, ALONG MAIN STREET, TO ROLLERTOWN, AND MAY EVEN GO BEYOND INTO SIMPSON PLAZA, PAST TOYOTA STADIUM. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CIRCULATOR THAT WE'RE EVALUATING. THANK YOU. OKAY, [Council Subcommittee reports for current activities of the Legislative Committee, Governance Committee, Budget and Audit Committee, Frisco Square Management District, Dallas Regional Mobility Commission, North Central Texas Emergency Preparedness Committee, Frisco Veterans Advisory Committee, North Texas Commission, and Regional Transportation Council.] [00:35:04] COUNCIL. ITEM 13 IS COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. ANY UPDATES? SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DID NOT MAKE IT OUT TO THE WORK SESSION EARLIER, THIS IS A CONTINUATION FROM EFFORTS AT THE COG AND THE RTC. WE WILL BE WORKING WITH DCTA VERY QUICKLY TO BRING SOME PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO FRISCO, SO SPECIFICALLY FOR AREAS. THAT NEED HELP. SO, SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE LIVING IN FRISCO LAKES, IN THE GROVE, AS WELL AS STUDENTS, ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A BETA TEST. AND REALLY, REALLY WANT TO THANK BRIAN MOEN, JASON BRODIGAN, THE CITY STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS UP TO LIGHT. SO THAT SHOULD HELP WITH PEOPLE. AND THE SECOND THING IS. WE ARE CURRENTLY ALSO WORKING TO GET FLOOD MITIGATION DOLLARS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO PROVIDE RELIEF FOR YOU AREAS IN FRISCO THAT COULD BE FLOODED. SO WES AND TEAM ARE DEFINITELY ON IT. SO WANTED TO GIVE THAT UPDATE FROM THE RTC. AND YES, THE ITEM MENTIONED WILL BE ON AN APRIL AGENDA, WHERE THERE WILL BE A FULL PRESENTATION FOR THE CONTRACT WITH DCTA. [CONSENT AGENDA] ALL RIGHT, THAT WILL MOVE US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND ARE CONSIDERED NON-CONTROVERSIAL. THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO MOVE ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IN SEPARATE ACTION. COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY SINGLE ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT. YOU MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD. AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE 14 THROUGH 27 FOR CONSIDERATION. MOTION BY LAURA. SECOND. SECOND BY ANGELIA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0. [Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance to consider possible amendments to Zoning Ordinance Subsection 4.04.08, Parking Requirements Based on Use. Zoning Case No. ZA25-0007. Applicant: City of Frisco. (Development Services/JH)] LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. THESE ITEMS MAY LEGALLY REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION, BUT BY COUNCIL POLICY SHOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY. THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON ON ONE MOTION. THE CONCURRENCE OF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED TO MOVE ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION. COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY SINGLE ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT AND MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD. THERE'S ONE ITEM, COUNCIL, ITEM 28. MOTION BY LAURA. SECOND. SECOND BY ANGELINA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0. THAT'LL MOVE US [Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance amending Frisco’s Code of Ordinances, Ordinance No. 06-03-31, as amended, Chapter 2 (Administration), Article II (City Council), Division 1 (Generally), Section 2-19 (Rules of Procedure for the Conduct of Public Testimony at Meetings), Article III (Authorities, Boards and Commissions), Division 1 (Administrative Policies and Procedures), Section 2-76 (Rules of Procedure for the Conduct of Public Testimony at Meetings); modifying certain rules of procedure for the conduct of public testimony at meetings of the City Council and Boards, Commissions, and Committees of the City of Frisco. (CMO/KS)] TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM 29 IS CONSIDER AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING FRISCO'S CODE OF ORDINANCES NUMBER 06-03-31, AS AMENDED, CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 2, DIVISION 1, SECTION 2-19. ARTICLE 3, SECTION 2-76, RULES OR PROCEDURES FOR THE CONDUCT OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT MEETINGS, MODIFYING CERTAIN RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE CONDUCT OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES OF THE CITY OF FRISCO. GOOD EVENING, MARION CITY COUNCIL. KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THE CITY. SO, THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY WERE INITIALLY ESTABLISHED IN THE LATE 1980S. AND THEY WERE APPLIED TO THE CONDUCT OF TESTIMONY AT CITY COUNCIL, BOARD, COMMISSION, AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS. RECENTLY, COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO CONSIDER UPDATES TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, AND AS A RESULT, STAFF FACILITATED SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS WITH COUNCIL. ADDRESSING THEMES RELATED TO SPEAKER DURATION AND REGISTRATION PROCEDURES, FREQUENCY AND TIMING OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, AND ADDITIONAL RULES OF DECORUM. FOR THE ORDINANCE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, IT ADDRESSES SEVERAL UPDATES RELATED TO SPEAKER DURATION. MOST NOTABLY, IT PROPOSES A REDUCTION IN SPEAKER DURATION FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES FOR TESTIMONY ON BOTH AGENDA AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. FOR SPEAKERS THAT REQUIRE A TRANSLATOR, IT PROPOSES A PROPORTIONAL REDUCTION FROM TEN MINUTES TO SIX MINUTES FOR THOSE SPEAKERS. THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE ALSO ELIMINATES AN EXISTING ORDINANCE PROVISION THAT PROVIDES DISCRETION TO THE PRESIDING BODIES. TO REDUCE SPEAKER TIME ON A SINGLE AGENDA ITEM BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM. FOR SPEAKERS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, THIS ORDINANCE LIMITS THOSE SPEAKERS TO THREE MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME IN TOTAL, REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY WISH TO SPEAK ON. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO ADDRESSES SPEAKER REGISTRATION PROCEDURES. SPECIFICALLY, IT TRANSITIONS OUR SPEAKER REGISTRATION PROCESS FROM A PAPER FORM FILLED OUT PRIOR TO OR DURING THE MEETING TO AN ONLINE REGISTRATION FORM TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE START OF EACH MEETING. IT DOES PROVIDE FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS TO BE MADE BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE FOR MEMBERS [00:40:01] OF THE PUBLIC. WHO MAY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THAT PROCESS. OUTSIDE OF THE ORDINANCE, AS PART OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES, THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE WILL PROVIDE FOR PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS, AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE STANDARDS TO SUPPORT THE ONLINE REGISTRATION PROCESS IF THIS ORDINANCE WERE TO BE APPROVED. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO ADDRESSES THE TOPIC OF PLACEMENT OF CITIZEN INPUT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA. FOR AGENDA ITEMS, IT CLARIFIES THAT PROCESS IN THAT IT PROVIDES SPEAKERS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS, EITHER BEFORE OR AT THE TIME OF CONSIDERATION OF THAT AGENDA ITEM, BUT NOT AT BOTH TIMES. THIS CODIFIES OUR EXISTING PROCESS, AND I WILL NOTE THAT THIS WAS A CHANGE THAT OCCURRED AFTER THE AGENDA PACKET WAS. POSTED SPECIFICALLY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE DURING THE AGENDA ITEM COMPONENT THAT DOES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR SPEAKERS TO ADDRESS DURING THE AGENDA ITEM. SO THAT REFINEMENT WAS AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET. FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS, IT DEFINES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SPEAKERS TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. WHERE A CITIZEN INPUT SESSION WOULD BE DEFINED AT THE END OF THE COUNCIL AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS. AND CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT PRACTICE TODAY, PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT ALL OTHER CITY MEETINGS WOULD BE LIMITED TO TESTIMONY ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ALSO PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL RULES OF DECORUM, SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITIONS AGAINST DISRUPTIVE AND UNRULY BEHAVIOR, TO INCLUDE THE DISRUPTIVE USE OF PROPS, THREATENING SPEECH NOT PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THE USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES TO IMPEDE OR DISRUPT A MEETING, PHYSICALLY APPROACHING THE PRESIDING BODY MORE CLOSELY THAN THE ROOM IS SET UP TO ACCOMMODATE, OR DISPLAYING A SIGN, PLACARD, POSTER, OR BANNER IN THE MEETING ROOM. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE SHIRTS OR APPAREL THAT MAY COMMUNICATE A MESSAGE. THIS ALSO ADDRESSES A PROCESS FOR TREATMENT OF DECORUM VIOLATIONS, BEGINNING WITH A WARNING. FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE MEETING AND IDENTIFYING THE SPECIFIC VIOLATION. AND IF THAT INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT CORRECT THEIR VIOLATION OF THE RULES OF DECORUM, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ASK A POLICE OFFICER TO REMOVE THAT INDIVIDUAL FROM THE MEETING. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY RULES OF PROCEDURES. THESE ARE ALIGNED WITH BEST PRACTICES IN THE REGION, MOST NOTABLY SPEAKER DURATION TIME AT THREE MINUTES. THAT IS A VERY COMMON PRACTICE IN NORTH TEXAS. IF YOU DO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE FOR YOUR APRIL 7TH COUNCIL MEETING. WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. SOME COLOR I WANT TO ADD FIRST. BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST IN A SILO. AND ANYTIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT, ESPECIALLY DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON, IT'S FODDER FOR PERHAPS POLITICAL GAIN OR MISINFORMATION. SO CITY COUNCIL RECEIVES PUBLIC INPUT IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. WE DO THREE TOWN HALLS A YEAR WHERE WE PHYSICALLY CALL OUT TO EVERY SINGLE HOME IN FRISCO, ASKING THEM TO LISTEN IN TO THE TOWN HALL. WE USUALLY HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL LISTEN TO THE TOWN HALL ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WE STREAM IT LIVE ON FACEBOOK AND WE ALSO ALWAYS INVITE PEOPLE TO JOIN US IN AUDIENCE. IT'S AN INTENTIONAL EFFORT WE'VE BEEN DOING NOW FOR ALMOST A DECADE, TO TRY TO GET INPUT FROM ALL FOUR CORNERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S JUST ONE ITEM. WE HAVE MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN WE'LL ACTUALLY GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO SOLICIT INPUT. IT COULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE IN A PART OF THE CITY THAT RESIDENTS WANT TO POINT THINGS TO. IT'S MAYBE MEETING WITH AN HOA. I PROBABLY GIVE TWO DOZEN PRESENTATIONS A YEAR TO VARIOUS GROUPS WITH FRISCO UPDATES AND SEEKING INPUT. EVERY PART OF OUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS IS A CITIZEN DRIVEN PROCESS. SO IT STARTS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WE JUST HAD A CITIZEN BODY WHO SOLICITED INPUT, ALONG WITH CONSULTANTS AND SURVEYS AND FEEDBACK TO BUILD OUR 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEN EVERY DECISION [00:45:02] GOES THROUGH A VARIETY OF COMMITTEES, ALL CITIZEN APPOINTED COMMITTEES, WHETHER IT'S PLANNING AND ZONING, PARKS AND REC, AND YOU NAME CAN GO ALL DOWN THE LIST, WHERE THEIR ENTIRE INITIATIVE IS TO EXPAND OUR SCOPE OF BEING ABLE TO HEAR THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZEN INPUT. COUNCIL THEN DOES MANY THINGS ON THEIR OWN. I CAN SAY THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL WILL SPEND TIME MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AT COFFEE SHOPS FOR LONG-FORM DISCUSSIONS OR MEETING THEM IN THEIR HOME. DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON, WALKING AND KNOCKING DOORS, LISTENING TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. MANY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF A COUNCIL MEETING. I'D SAY, PROBABLY THE CITIZEN INPUT IS PROBABLY THE TOOL USED THE LEAST BY THE COMMUNITY TO REACH US. OFTENTIMES, IT'S JUST A SIMPLE EMAIL THAT WE MAY GET. IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON ARTICULATED AN ISSUE VERY WELL, SO THEY MAY SEND OUT. A PETITION THAT THEY WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT, THAT THEY AGREE WITH THOSE POINTS. SO KIND OF THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A CITY THAT WANTS TO SEEK CITIZEN INPUT, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR ESSENTIALLY EVERY SINGLE DECISION. I THINK TWO YEARS AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME WE ACTUALLY DID A CITIZEN SURVEY, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FOLLOWED UP AGAIN LATER THIS YEAR. SO ALL WE'RE ADDRESSING TONIGHT, ALL THOSE OTHER OUTREACH WHERE WE'RE BOTH KIND OF PUSHING FOR FEEDBACK AND PULLING FOR FEEDBACK, WILL CONTINUE. ALL WE'RE ADDRESSING TONIGHT IS OFFICIAL CITY MEETINGS AND HOW TO HANDLE CITIZEN INPUT DURING OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS. AND REALLY, AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, WE'VE ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE WORK SESSIONS, AND COUNCIL HAS KIND OF NARROWED INTO A SCOPE OF THINGS WE WANTED TO THINK ABOUT AND DISCUSS. SOME OF THEM WERE COMING REGARDLESS BECAUSE OF OUR NEW ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, WHERE WE NEEDED TO CHANGE POLICIES. BE ABLE TO KIND OF MANAGE THAT. SO THAT WAS ALREADY ON THE HORIZON. AND THEN SOME OF THE OF THE OTHERS ARE JUST CHANGES TO PRACTICES AND CODIFYING PRACTICES THAT WE'VE ALWAYS USED DURING CITIZEN INPUT. THERE'S PROBABLY REALLY ONLY KIND OF ONE CHANGE FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT OTHER THAN PRACTICE, WHICH IS THE LENGTH OF TIME. AND I'LL JUST KIND OF OPEN WITH MY COMMENTS ON THAT. SO IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MARKET FOR A CAR, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL YOU CAN SEE ON THE ROAD IS THAT CAR. YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU BECOME MORE OBSERVANT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH YOU. AND SO I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS COMING UP, IT'S MADE ME KIND OF MORE PERCEPTIVE. OF OUR CITIZEN INPUT PROCESS AND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE PERSON PRESENTING, BUT ALSO FOR HOW OUR MEETINGS OPERATE. AND SO LAST MEETING WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAD MORE THAN 10 SPEAKERS. SHOW UP. AND SO ALL OF THOSE SPEAKERS ON THAT AGENDA ITEM THEN WENT TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME. AND SO WHAT I FOUND REALLY FASCINATING IS THAT USUALLY WHEN WE DO CITIZEN INPUT, FIVE MINUTES IS A REALLY LONG TIME, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME. AND SO PEOPLE WILL STRUGGLE BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO FILL THE TIME. AND SO THERE'S USUALLY KIND OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE THE ACADEMY AWARDS. BEGINNING PART OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE KIND OF EVERYONE IS THANKED AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE KIND OF RAMBLE THROUGH SOME POINTS. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY LOOK UP AND THEY'RE OUT, THEY'RE OUT OF TIME. WELL, LAST MEETING, I THOUGHT WE HAD A LOT. OF SPEAKERS, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ACTUALLY PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST EFFICIENT PRESENTATIONS FROM A CITIZEN INPUT. BECAUSE SUDDENLY THREE MINUTES DOESN'T SOUND LIKE.AND THREE MINUTES IS I NEED TO GET MY POINTS ARTICULATED. IF SOMEONE SAID ONE OF MY POINTS, REALLY WELL, I CAN SAY AN AGREEING STATEMENT. LIKE MY NEIGHBOR BILL, REALLY, I AGREE WITH HIM ON THAT POINT. LET ME FOCUS ON SOME OTHER POINTS. IN THE PAST, WE'VE SEEN STRATEGIES WHERE MULTIPLE SPEAKERS WILL WANT TO COME IN, AND THEY MAY TAKE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PRESENTATION. AND SO IT REALLY KIND OF, IN MY MIND, MADE ME REALIZE THAT IT ACTUALLY CREATED A MORE EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION TOOL, I THOUGHT, AND THE MOST SHOCKING THING IS, WHEN WE'RE AT FIVE MINUTES, I WOULD SAY A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE RUN OUT OF TIME. WHEN WE WENT TO THREE MINUTES LAST MEETING, I THINK 90% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE FINISHED IN TWO MINUTES. BECAUSE IT JUST CHANGED THE MENTALITY OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE GIVING, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A MUCH BETTER COMMUNICATION. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE ON IT, BUT COUNCIL, WE'LL JUST KIND OF TAKE THESE ONE BY ONE, AND THE FIRST ONE IS JUST THAT DURATION TIME. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS, BUT I'LL LOOK FOR ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ARE WE LOOKING TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT [00:50:02] BEFORE WE START? OH, YES, LET'S DO THAT. SORRY. WE DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. SO WE WILL START WITH JOSH MEEK, AND AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE MARK PYLAND. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JOSH MEEK. I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN FRISCO AND MY ADDRESS IS LISTED THERE ON THE BLUE CARD. WHAT'S GOING ON? IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE KIND OF BEEN HERE CONSISTENTLY, SO BACK IN THE RHYTHM OF IT. YOU KNOW, AFTER READING THROUGH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, NON RELATED, YOU KNOW, TO AN AGENDA ITEM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THREE MINUTES IS FAIR. I THINK, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE STUFF THAT GETS COVERED IN A PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, GETS ADDRESSED. BUT I DO STRUGGLE, HONESTLY, EVERY TIME. WE REDUCE FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES WHENEVER WE DO HAVE MORE THAN 10 SPEAKERS, JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC ISN'T UP TO DATE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RULES OF PRACTICE ARE. SO THEY COME PREPARED FOR THAT FIVE-MINUTE WINDOW. IT GETS REDUCED DOWN TO THREE. AND, YOU KNOW I THINK BACK TO A LOT OF THE TIMES THAT WE'VE HAD RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, WITH THE WAREHOUSE THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RIDGEWOODS. BUT, YOU KNOW, ALSO THE RESIDENTS THERE OF COBB HILL WHEN UNIVERSAL PARK WAS COMING IN, AND THE RESIDENTS SURROUNDING HAROLD BACKUS PARK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FOREST BARK DOG PARK. THE RECENT, YOU KNOW, STUFF RELATED TO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS RELATED TO CIVIL SERVICE, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND UNIONS, YOU KNOW, IS THREE MINUTES FOR SOME OF THE DENSITY. OF THESE TOPICS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IS IT ENOUGH TIME, YOU KNOW, THREE MINUTES FOR THAT TO BE ALLOTTED? AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S NOT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE REASON I'M ALSO UP HERE IS REALLY FOR THE CITIZEN, THE RESIDENT THAT ISN'T AS INFORMED. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SHOWING UP AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND THE PROCEDURES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS KIND OF, AS I WAS BRAINSTORMING THROUGH THE PROCESS, IS THAT IF THERE'S A WAY TO EVEN KIND OF HYPERLINK TO THE ELECTRONIC FORM, WHICH I'M ALL FOR. IF THERE IS A WAY TO HYPERLINK SPECIFICALLY TO THAT FORM, OR HOWEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE SUBMITTED, IF THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT WITHIN THE ACTUAL AGENDA. BUT I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT. THREE, YOU KNOW, REDUCING FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. AND I KNOW IT'S A PRACTICE THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, IN, YOU KNOW, LOCKSTEP FOR A FEW YEARS NOW HERE LOCALLY. A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES USE IT DOWN IN AUSTIN. THREE MINUTES IS USED. BUT SINCE WHEN IS FRISCO EVER CONFORMED? RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN THE LEADER. AND YOU GUYS ARE THE CLOSEST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT. TO THE PEOPLE. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, REFLECTING BACK ON SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMMENT REDUCED DOWN FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES, I JUST KIND OF STRUGGLE WITH THAT. AND JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CONFORMING THAT MOVING FORWARD FROM HERE ON OUT, AND NOT EVEN ALLOWING THAT OPPORTUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ONLY HAVE A HANDFUL, ALLOWING THEM THAT EXTRA TIME TO ME IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE GIVING TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO THE CITIZENS OF FRISCO. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT, TOO, WAS RELATED TO THE TIMES. YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL MEETINGS START AT FIVE O'CLOCK. YOUR AVERAGE EVERYDAY FRISCO RESIDENT IS PROBABLY NOT GETTING OFF WORK YET. FIVE O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK, COMMUTE TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF, YOU KNOW, ELECTRONIC, ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION, BUT. WITH THAT, DO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN DO THAT? DO THEY SHOW UP AT A COUNCIL MEETING, THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT, AND NOW THEY CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT? SO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EDUCATION, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONFORM TO SOME OF THESE STANDARDS. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT I KIND OF STRUGGLE WITH IS, YOU KNOW, MYSELF AND MY THREE MINUTES WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN UP. BUT ESSENTIALLY. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL TIMES WHERE I HAVE NOT PLANNED ON SPEAKING AT A MEETING AND I FELT INSPIRED OR MOTIVATED, OR COMPELLED. SO I'VE SEEN OTHER RESIDENTS ALSO DO THAT AS WELL. SO I STRUGGLE WITH ALSO TO KIND OF I UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND HAVING AN ORDER AND STRUCTURE, BUT I STRUGGLE FOR THAT IN THE MOMENT. MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT WASN'T BRAVE ENOUGH TO SPEAK DECIDED TO SPEAK UP ON A TOPIC OR SOMETHING. TRIGGERED WAS TRIGGERED IN THEM, AND THEN THEY FELT MOTIVATED AND COMPELLED TO THEN SPEAK AND STAND UP FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE'S, I THINK, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST REALLY STRUGGLE WITH ON THIS. SO I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, DELIBERATELY, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE TIME IS JUST TOO MUCH. BUT THERE'S A COUPLE COURSES OF ACTION AVAILABLE OF ACTION AVAILABLE TO YOU GUYS TONIGHT. AND I'D ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO EDIT THE ORDINANCE. I DON'T ENTIRELY AGREE WITH IT IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE EDITED. BUT AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. I KNOW YOU ALL COME UNDER THE GUN RECENTLY. I WATCH THESE MEETINGS. I ATTEND THESE MEETINGS. AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF IS MORE PROFESSIONALISM AT THIS DAIS AND TREATING EACH OTHER LIKE NEIGHBORS. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR MY TIME. THANK [00:55:03] YOU. AFTER THAT, WE HAVE SHAUNA SOWELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MARK PYLATIVE IN THE HOLLYHOCK SECTION OF FRISCO. FIRST, A COUPLE COMMENTS, MAYOR, TO YOUR COMMENTS. THE CITY'S GETTING READY TO BE A QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE. AND WHILE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MEETINGS AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND GATHERINGS, AND THAT'S ALL GREAT, BUT THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S VIDEOTAPED THAT THE MASSES OF THIS CITY CAN SEE ARE OUR TOWN HALLS AND THESE MEETINGS HERE. SO WHILE YOU MAY HAVE COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR, YOU MAY HAVE MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, THE MASS OF FRISCO DON'T SEE THAT. THEY DON'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO I THINK FOR US, WE HAVE TO EVOLVE INTO A CITY THAT'S NOT 30,000 PEOPLE ANYMORE. IT'S GROWING. IT'S BIG. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO EMBRACE THAT AND THINK OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET INFORMATION OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. I'M OKAY WITH THE DECORUM ON THE ORDINANCE. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. I THINK ALL PERSONS THAT ADDRESS THIS COUNCIL AND THIS BODY AND THIS CHAMBER SHOULD HAVE DECORUM. I THINK THEY ALL SHOULD BEHAVE THEMSELVES IN A PROPER MANNER. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THIS ORDINANCE IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. AND AS JOSH SAID, LIMITING PEOPLE TO THREE MINUTES, YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT ABILITY. THAT'S IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE NOW. WHY MAKE IT A MANDATORY THREE MINUTES? IF YOU'VE GOT TEN OR MORE SPEAKERS, YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD THE ABILITY TO LIMIT THAT TIME LIMIT. SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT NOW BECOMES MANDATORY. PUTTING NON-AGENDA ITEM SPEAKERS AT THE END OF THE MEETING, LET'S JUST BE HONEST. THAT IS TRYING TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM COMING HERE AND SPEAKING. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IF YOU HAVE A NON-AGENDA ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU WAIT TO THE END OF THE MEETING, WHEN MAYBE MOST PEOPLE HAVE LEFT, OR WHEN YOU JUST CAN'T SPEND HERE THAT LONG, OR YOU'RE JUST TOO TIRED OR WHATNOT, SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU AT THE END. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. LET'S JUST BE HONEST. FOR ONCE, LET'S JUST BE TRUTHFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S A DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE. FROM SPEAKING. THIS IS AN ISSUE TO LIMIT CITIZEN SPEECH CLOAKED IN GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS. THE JOB OF THE COUNCIL IS TO LISTEN. THAT IS YOUR JOB AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN ANYMORE, RECONSIDER YOUR POSITION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY YOU WERE ELECTED. YOU WERE ELECTED ON TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE YOU WANT THE TRANSPARENT PEOPLE TO BE THERE IN THE MEETING WHEN NO ONE'S HERE. THAT'S NOT TRANSPARENCY, AND THAT CERTAINLY IS NOT ACCOUNTABILITY. PUBLIC DISCOURSE IS AN AMERICAN RIGHT. AND LIMITING FREE SPEECH BY TIME AND OPPORTUNITY IS WRONG. I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK OF OUR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY, THE MEN AND WOMEN, WHO HAVE SACRIFICED EVERYTHING TO GIVE US FREE SPEECH. AND THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE OF THIS COUNCIL TO TRY TO LIMIT THAT. IT'S A KNEE-JERK REACTION TO FEBRUARY 3RD AND SOME OTHER TIMES WHEN THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SPEAKERS HERE CRITICIZING THIS COUNCIL OR SAYING SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO HEAR. BUT THAT'S WHAT FREE SPEECH IS ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT NOT YOU AGREEING WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, BUT YOU DEFENDING THEIR RIGHT TO SAY THAT. AND, AS JOSH SAID, IT'S COMPARING US TO OTHER CITIES. I WELCOME THAT COMPARISON. LET'S MAKE THAT COMPARISON BECAUSE IT'S WORKING HERE FOR 10 YEARS. I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO, WE'LL FIND A CITY TO MAKE THAT COMPARISON. BUT WHEN WE DON'T WANT TO COMPARE WITH THEM, WE SAY WE'RE FRISCO, WE'RE DIFFERENT. I'VE SEEN IT OVER A 10-YEAR CAREER HERE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORING CITIES. LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO COMPARE OURSELVES. LET'S DO THE FULL COMPARISON BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BE BETTER IF WE'RE GOING TO COMPARE WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES. THIS BASICALLY IS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM IS WHAT THIS IS. AND IT IS LIMITING. LET'S JUST BE HONEST. IT'S LIMITING PEOPLE'S ABILITY FOR FREE SPEECH. IT'S JUST WE TABLE THIS ITEM. THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS POSTED ON MARCH 11TH AT 5 30 P.M. LET'S LET OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS CITY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE, AND LET'S HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT THIS PODIUM AND GET THEIR IDEAS AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT, WE HAVE SHAUNA SOWELL. GOOD EVENING SHAUNA SOWELL, AND YOU HAVE MY ADDRESS HERE IN FRISCO. MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT I SPENT THE FIRST 12 YEARS OF MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER AS A HIGH SCHOOL GOVERNMENT AND HISTORY TEACHER AND SPEECH AND DEBATE COACH. ONE OF MY MASTER'S DEGREES ALSO HAD A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON POLITICAL SPEECH AND FIRST AMENDMENT LAW. SO I ULTIMATELY HAVE FAIRLY STRONG THOUGHTS ABOUT FREE SPEECH AND THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, ESPECIALLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. THE ABILITY [01:00:01] FOR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK TO THEIR ELECTED LEADERS ON ISSUES THAT MATTER TO THEM IS PARAMOUNT TO OUR DEMOCRACY. I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO COME BEFORE THEIR LEADERS IN THIS RECORDED PUBLIC FORUM AND SHARE THE THINGS THAT MATTER TO THEM. PERTAINING TO CITY BUSINESS AND ACTIVITIES. DEMOCRACY AND THE ACTIVITIES THEREIN ARE MESSY. THERE IS ALWAYS A PUSH AND PULL THAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS RECOGNIZED WOULD ALWAYS EXIST BETWEEN THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HOLD DEAR AND THE PROCESS. BUT THEY ULTIMATELY LANDED ON PROTECTING THE FREEDOMS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, EVEN WHEN IT LED TO MESSY RESULTS. THE RECENT MEETINGS HAVE LED TO THIS DISCUSSION AMONG THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE CITIZEN INPUT PROCESS. THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT I THINK ARE FINE. I DO BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST PRIORITY IN SPEAKING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT BEHIND A LONG LIST OF THOSE WHO DO NOT LIVE HERE, REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE. BUT MOVING ALL SPEAKERS TO THE END OF THE MEETING MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK. AND HONESTLY, THE MESSAGE THAT IT SENDS IS THAT WHATEVER THE RESIDENT HAS TO SAY JUST ISN'T AS IMPORTANT AS WHATEVER. WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE AGENDA THAT EVENING. IT ALSO SENDS THE MESSAGE THAT WE HOPE YOU'LL GET TIRED OF WAITING AND GO HOME. I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH REQUIRING SPEAKERS TO SIGN UP BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS. ELECTRONICALLY IS FINE, BUT OFTEN PEOPLE WHO ATTEND THE MEETINGS ARE MOVED TO SPEAK BY HEARING COMMENTS OF OTHERS FOR OR AGAINST A TOPIC. AND THAT RIGHT SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED BECAUSE OF WANTING TO SHORTEN A MEETING. WE CAN LIST A LITANY OF SUPREME COURT CASES AND LEGAL GYMNASTICS TO DETERMINE WHAT CAN BE DONE. BUT JUST BECAUSE IT CAN, DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULD BE DONE. BUILDING PUBLIC TRUST, ESPECIALLY OF TIMES OF DISAGREEMENT, IS PARAMOUNT TO A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY, INCLUDING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SOMETHING THE AUDIENCE NEEDS TO CONSIDER. IS THE DECORUM IN OUR MEETINGS. WE MUST ALL REMEMBER THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDINGS, AND CIVIL DEBATE AND DISCOURSE IS SO NEEDED. YOU CAN BE PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR ISSUE AND STILL SHOW RESPECT AND DECORUM FOR THE PROCESS, RESPECT THE TIME OF OTHERS AND MAINTAIN CIVILITY IN THE DISCUSSION. HOW WE GO ABOUT OUR PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS AS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY MATTERS, AND IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE SPEAK MATTERS. IT IS THE MOST BASIC LEVEL OF INTERACTING WITH OUR GOVERNMENT. SO WHILE I STAND FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK, I ALSO STAND FOR YOUR RIGHT TO DO IT RESPECTFULLY. I'VE SAT THROUGH PUBLIC INPUT, BOTH AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THAT SIDE OF THE DAIS, AND AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WAITING TO SPEAK ON SEVERAL ISSUES ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS. AND REGARDLESS OF THE SIDE OF THE DAIS, I HAVE MAINTAINED THE SAME POSITION. IT WASN'T ABOUT CAMPAIGNING. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE ISSUE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME. THE PUBLIC MUST RETAIN THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUES THEY DEEM IMPORTANT. TO LIMIT OR DISCOURAGE THAT RIGHT BECAUSE IT MAKES OUR MEETINGS LONGER? PRESENTS NOT ONLY A SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUT A WEIGHT OF CONSPIRACY, A LACK OF TRUST, AND, ULTIMATELY, A DISRESPECT FOR THE RESIDENTS YOU REPRESENT. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT ANY OF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO. DON'T LET YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH SOME OF THESE MEETINGS RELEGATE HOW THOSE WHO HAVE COME AND RESPECTED THE PROCESS ARE TREATED. THINGS WILL SETTLE DOWN AND WE GO ON ABOUT THE CITY'S BUSINESS, BUT WE CANNOT COMPLAIN ABOUT RESIDENTS NOT BEING INFORMED OR ENGAGED AND THEN SHUT THEM DOWN WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT. DEMOCRACY IS MESSY. IT TAKES TIME, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY WORTH IT. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL WE HAD TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. AND I DO WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT CITY COUNCIL LANDED VERY QUICKLY DURING WORK SESSIONS TO NOT LIMIT THE TOPICS OF CITIZEN INPUT OR THE CONTENT. SO THAT'S NOT EVEN SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL IS INQUIRING OR DISCUSSING HERE TONIGHT. AND AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF THE AGENDA, THE THOUGHTS AROUND THAT IS WHEN THERE'S CITIZEN INPUT FOR AGENDA ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE WE DO TONIGHT, THREE THAT SPOKE ON AGENDA ITEMS AND OTHERS THAT ARE WAITING FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS, SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IS WAITING TO SPEAK. AND SO IT'S COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION AS FAR AS WHERE THAT PRIORITY SHOULD BE. SHOULD THE PRIORITY BE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE COMING TO SPEAK, LIKE HAPPENED AT LAST MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WHERE WE TOOK CITIZEN INPUT FIRST, AND THOSE 20 TO 30 RESIDENTS THAT WERE THERE TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT EVENING, ALL HAD TO WAIT. SO THAT IS THE ARGUMENT IS WHO SHOULD GET PRIORITY WHEN SPEAKING BEFORE COUNCIL. AND SO KIND OF WITH THAT, THOSE CLARIFYING [01:05:01] REMARKS, WE'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE. SO KIND OF THE TOP LINE ONE IS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE DURATION. SO, COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD EVEN BE A FACT WHILE I WAS STILL MAYOR, SO IT WON'T REALLY IMPACT ME, BUT WHAT'S Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS? ARE YOU STARTING, MURRAY? SO THE QUESTION, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO ONE BY ONE, SO FROM FIVE TO THREE? I THINK SO. I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT IN THREE MINUTES. I MEAN, IN SPEECH CLASS, IT SEEMED ABOUT LIKE THREE HOURS WHEN I WAS DOING IT, SO I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU. CITIZEN INPUT IS OVER. I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY CITIZENS THAT HAVE, COUNTLESS CITIZENS WHO HAVE SAID, CAN WE SHORTEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO THREE MINUTES? AND IT'S NOT ON ONE SPECIFIC THING, BUT I CAN'T NOT UNHEAR THE MULTITUDE OF CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN DISTURBED. BY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND I KNOW THAT DEMOCRACY IS MESSY. BUT ALLOWING NON-AGENDA ITEMS TO GO ON FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME TO THE POINT THE CITIZENS DON'T FEEL SAFE IN OUR CITY ANYMORE IS A PROBLEM THAT OUR. PLEASE REMAIN QUIET. I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, SIR. THERE'S NO MORE COMMENT, THANK YOU. IF YOU CANNOT FOLLOW OUR DECORUM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE. SO THAT'S WHERE I, WHEN WE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN COUNCIL WORK SESSION ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE THREE MINUTES IS PLENTY OF TIME. THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK WITH COUNCIL, TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. LIKE I SAID, I'VE HAD MANY CITIZENS REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY AND REPEATEDLY SAID, I DON'T FEEL SAFE IN FRISCO. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SUPPORTS THAT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS THAT. AND I THINK PART OF IT COMES FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND I THINK THAT THREE MINUTES IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO GET OUR POINTS ACROSS. I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW, AND I CAN SAY THAT THIS CONVERSATION AROUND HOW WE GOVERN PUBLIC INPUT. HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH THE RECENCY EFFECT HERE. I WILL NOT GIVE CREDENCE TO THAT ISSUE AS BEING THE SOLE REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. THIS CONVERSATION HAS SURFACED ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS AROUND PUTTING GOVERNANCE IN PLACE. IT IS NOT ABOUT ELIMINATING FREE SPEECH, IT'S ABOUT BREVITY OF SPEECH. I WATCH THIS CLOCK BECAUSE I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESSING THE BUTTON. TO ENSURE THAT WE START THE CLOCK. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE MANY WHO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK AND HAVE COMPLETELY GOTTEN THEIR POINT ACROSS IN LESS THAN THREE MINUTES. GENERALLY, WHEN IT HITS THE FOUR-MINUTE MARK, PEOPLE ARE THEN REPEATING THEMSELVES. BUT THE ESSENCE OF THE MESSAGE AND THE POINT THAT THEY'RE HOPING TO DELIVER HAS COME ACROSS VERY CLEARLY. JOSH, YOU DID THAT TONIGHT. I WATCHED THE CLOCK. YOU HIT ALL OF YOUR KEY POINTS. YOUR MESSAGE WAS WELL TAKEN AT THE THREE-MINUTE MARK. SO IT CAN BE DONE. I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF GOING TO THREE MINUTES AND ASKING THE AUDIENCE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY AHEAD OF TIME. AND PRACTICE THE ART OF BREVITY. THERE'S NOTHING RESTRICTING PEOPLE FROM COMING EVERY MEETING IF THEY WANT TO COME EVERY MEETING. SO I'M ALSO OKAY WITH THE THREE MINUTES. AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS THAT. WHEN WE'VE HAD THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND WE'VE GOT TEN OR MORE, WE GET DOWN TO THREE MINUTES. AND THOSE SAME PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THE SAME WAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD FIVE MINUTES. THE ONE CONCERN THAT I HEARD THAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER WAS FOR SOMEONE WHO? THIS IS THEIR SECOND LANGUAGE. AND BY USING A TRANSLATOR, WE'VE TAKEN ACCOUNT INTO THAT, TO BEING ABLE TO SAY, IF YOU NEED A TRANSLATOR TO HELP GET YOUR POINT ACROSS, WE WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU. AND THAT IS VERY EASILY ACCESSIBLE, AS LONG AS YOU LET US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. I DID SOME RESEARCH AROUND ALL THE NEIGHBORING AREAS, PLANO, PROSPER, DENTON, MCKINNEY, THEY'RE ALL AT THREE MINUTES ALREADY. SO, WITH FRISCO AND THE POPULATION AND THE SIZE THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S ALSO RESPECTFUL TO OUR RESIDENTS. TO DO THIS IN AN EXPEDIENT FASHION, SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, I AM OKAY WITH THE THREE MINUTES. I GUESS I'M GOING TO BE THE DISSENTING [01:10:02] VOICE HERE. IF PEOPLE HAD COME TO THE WORK SESSION WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS. I WAS AGAINST GOING FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. WHAT MAKES AMERICA THE BEST COUNTRY, QUITE FRANKLY, IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK THEIR MIND, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW. IF YOU LOOK AT EUROPE NOW, THAT'S GONE. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY ANYMORE. WE'RE BASICALLY THE LAST COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT CHANGED. YES, THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, I THINK WE BROKE A RECORD THAT WE HAD TO STAY HERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. I DO GET COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS, AND I SPECIFICALLY TELL THEM AT THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE MORE STUFF, CALL ME BACK. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR. THAT'S WHY I GOT ELECTED. THAT'S WHY YOU ELECTED ME, THAT YOU CAN CALL AND TELL ME, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEMS ARE UNTIL YOU TELL ME. AND SO, YES, AM I FOR EFFICIENCY? ABSOLUTELY. SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE ARE GOOD. YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRONIC PART, GOOD. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO. I WENT TO A PLAY DOWN IN DALLAS, AND THEY DIDN'T ACCEPT A PAPER TICKET. AND ME, BEING KIND OF OLD SCHOOL, WE WERE FUMBLING AROUND TRYING TO GET THE APP GOING, BUT WE FIGURED IT OUT AND WE GOT IT GOING. SO WE NEED TO KIND OF GET IN THE 21ST CENTURY WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE STUFF, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING. BUT I PERSONALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE OPENNESS. AND I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN ON THAT SIDE AND I'M UP HERE. YOU GET NERVOUS. YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND FIVE MINUTES. IS NOT AS MUCH TIME AS YOU THINK IT IS. AND SO I THINK THERE'S ALSO THE ASPECT, WE TALK ABOUT SOME VERY COMPLICATED ISSUES AT TIMES, NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT OCCASIONALLY WE DO. AND FIVE MINUTES ALLOWS SOMEONE TO ARTICULATE THAT, IF THEY CHOOSE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO FIVE MINUTES. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. IT JUST ALLOWS THEM THE ABILITY IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING MORE TO SAY. WHAT I DON'T LIKE, THOUGH, IS WHEN PEOPLE, WHEN WE ASK THEM TO STOP, YOU'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES AND THEY TRY TO ABUSE THAT. AND THAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO THE FIVE MINUTES. I THINK WE SHOULD ADJUST THIS ONE ITEM, TABLE IT, AND REDO THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT, JUST THIS ONE ITEM, THE FIVE MINUTES. AND I'M FOR KEEPING ALSO THE DECORUM IS FINE. THAT CAN'T HAVE BANNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE OTHER ONES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BUT SO ANYWAY, I'M FOR THE FIVE MINUTES. SO LET'S JUST BE REAL. FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, RIGHT? FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. WE'RE DOING IT ADMINISTRATIVELY. WE VOTE. WE DO THIS. WE DO THAT. THE REALITY IS, HOW MANY OF YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL SPEAKERS? PROBABLY NOT MANY. JOSH, YOU KNOW WHY YOU WERE ON TIME? BECAUSE YOU RAN FOR OFFICE AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO ANSWER SOMETHING IN A MINUTE OR TWO MINUTES, OR THREE MINUTES. MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO JARED'S POINT, PEOPLE GET NERVOUS. PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT. AND LOOK, WHAT ARE WE DOING BY CUTTING THE PUBLIC'S TIME BY 40 PERCENT TO BE ABLE TO GET AN IDEA OUT? I GET IT. THERE ARE ISSUES AND WE WANT TO HAVE EFFICIENCIES AND WE WANT TO HAVE GOVERNMENT FUNCTION TO A POINT. TO GET RIGHT DOWN TO THE POINT. I ARGUE THAT PUBLIC INPUT IS NOT MEANT TO BE EFFICIENT. IT'S MEANT TO BE REPRESENTATIVE. THAT'S IT. AND EVERYBODY, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO SPEAK, TO GET UP HERE. AND IF YOU CAN'T FORM YOUR WORDS, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME AND SPEAK FOR THE FIVE MINUTES. THIS ARGUMENT, OH, WE CAN DO BETTER IN FRISCO. OKAY, WE ARE. WE ARE AT FIVE MINUTES. THE COMPARABLES THAT YOU'RE USING BETWEEN DENTON AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES, WELL, DOES DENTON HAVE THE SAFEST CITY? DOES DENTON HAVE THE BEST POLICE FORCE? DOES DENTON HAVE THE GREATEST CITY STAFF? I DON'T WANT TO BE A COMPARATOR. I WANT US TO BE THE PARAGON OF WHAT SHOULD BE. AND LOOK, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHILE THEY MIGHT BE. AFRAID OR BE PERTURBED, OR THIS AND THAT WITH OPINIONS THAT DON'T MATTER. GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE WORDS. WE SAW WHAT WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH CHARLIE [01:15:01] KIRK, OKAY? THAT GUY DIED BECAUSE HE WAS EXPRESSING A VIEWPOINT. LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WE SHOULD GIVE EVERYBODY THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. AND THIS NOTION, DEAR COUNCIL, THIS NOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIX SOMETHING BY GOING FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES? WELL, GUESS WHAT? THE OTHER NIGHT, WHEN WE SAT HERE AND WE LISTENED TO 35 RESIDENTS SPEAK ABOUT WAREHOUSES, IF WE HADN'T, YOU KNOW, JARED AND I, WE BOTH VOTED NO ON IT TO REDUCE THAT TIME. MAYBE IF WE HAD LISTENED TO ALL OF THEM FOR FIVE MINUTES, MAYBE SOME OF THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD WHAT THEIR BELIEFS WERE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TABLED IT. YOU KNOW WHAT? I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SIT ON THE OTHER SIDE, TOO. AND I REMEMBER HOW TOUGH IT WAS FOR ME TO GET UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES. AND MR. MAYOR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS ISN'T ABOUT CAMPAIGNING. THIS ISN'T ABOUT... THIS IS ABOUT AFFORDING THE CITIZENS A CHANCE TO COME IN HERE AND SAY WHAT THEY NEED TO SAY. AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME FROM AN HOUR AWAY, OR THEY WANT TO COME FROM FIVE MINUTES AWAY, TO USE THIS PLATFORM TO GET SOMETHING OFF THEIR CHEST, IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO. AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO? WE'LL SIT UP HERE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE'LL LISTEN TO IT. BECAUSE THAT'S THE AMERICAN WAY. SO, IF YOU CAN'T TELL, THANK YOU, IF YOU CAN'T TELL, I'M FIRMLY AGAINST CHANGING IT, WHY FIX SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BROKEN? WHAT IS THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? AND AS OPPOSED TO LEADING FROM A PLACE OF LOVE, WHY ARE WE APPROACHING THIS FROM A PLACE OF FEAR THAT WE CALL GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY? SORRY. I GOT A LITTLE PASSIONATE. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE LAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS' REMARKS BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE MAY BE MISLED THAT COUNCIL IS RESTRICTING CONTENT OR SPEECH, WHICH WE'RE NOT. SO THAT WAS OFF THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY WHEN COUNCIL HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS, SO PEOPLE WILL BE FREE TO COME AND ADDRESS THIS. MR. MAYOR, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. I SAID, I'M AGAINST LIMITING FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BUT I THINK PEOPLE COULD HAVE INFERRED BOTH OF YOUR REMARKS SEPARATELY THAT WE WERE RESTRICTING. OKAY, SO TO ANYBODY LISTENING, THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING I'M AGAINST LIMITING IT FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. THERE'S NO INFERENCE. OKAY. SPEAKER REPRESENT REGISTRATION PROCEDURES. CITY STAFF, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION. YOU WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THAT? YES, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE, AND A LOT OF THAT IS JUST BASED ON WHAT IS DECIDED HERE TONIGHT, WHAT WE MAKE AVAILABLE. WE ARE MIRRORING OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS AND IT IS A WAY TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE BLUE CARDS, IT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO READ PEOPLE'S HANDWRITING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WRITING LETTERS THESE DAYS, BUT IF YOU SEE WHAT WE SEE, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT LEGIBLE. AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR STAFF AND FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO EVEN SEE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE EVEN WRITING ON THEIR FORM. A LOT OF TIMES THEY LEAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT SAY, HEY, I WANT TO BE CONTACTED, AND THEY SAY, HEY, CONTACT ME. AND STAFF IS SITTING THERE TRYING TO DISTINGUISH WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS SO THAT WE CAN CONTACT THEM. AND SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST A MORE MODERN WAY AND AN EFFICIENT WAY TO HAVE PEOPLE REGISTER, TO SPEAK. AND IT GETS IT ELECTRONICALLY SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THEM AND READ THEM AND NOTE THE RECORD MORE EASILY. BUT YES, THAT PROCESS IS ONGOING WITH OUR IT TEAM. AND WE HAD TALKED DURING OUR WORK SESSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN HAVING A QR CODE KIND OF HERE ON SITE, SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT KIND OF CAME HERE WOULD BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE. AND THE PROCESS WOULD BE PRETTY EASY, JUST A FORM WOULD COME UP AND THEY WOULD FILL IT OUT AND IT WOULD GET ROUTED TO YOU SOMEHOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE QR CODE YET, BUT YES, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE BASICS OF THE FORM RIGHT NOW WITH THE IT PLAN. YOU KNOW, HEARING SOME OF THE COMMENTS TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A FAIR COMPROMISE, MAYBE THAT KIND OF CAME TO MIND, WHICH IS I WOULD SAY, BEING THE PERSON WHO'S HAD TO RUN THESE MEETINGS FOR NINE YEARS, IT IS NICE TO KNOW. KIND OF WHERE CITIZEN INPUT IS COMING TO THE AGENDA, SO YOU CAN ADJUST THE AGENDA TO GET OUR CITIZENS OUT THE DOOR AND HOME QUICKER. I THINK TO THE POINT, EXCUSE ME, SIR. IF YOU HAVE ONE MORE OUTBURST, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO BE REMOVED. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? THANK YOU. IS EVERYONE WHO IS THERE FOR AN AGENDA ITEM, THEY'LL TYPICALLY REGISTER AND SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY WANT THEIR COMMENT KNOWN? I THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT IF SOMEONE HAS AT LEAST REGISTERED A COMMENT CARD OR AN OPINION CARD ON THE SITE SAYING, THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS ITEM, SHOULD THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND DURING THE MEETING AND WANT TO SPEAK, BUT THEY'VE REGISTERED, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD DO. CONSIDER TO SOME OF OUR SPEAKERS POINTS. BUT MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT WAS THE CUTOFF TIME FOR THAT? 5 P.M. AND BUT WHEN WILL THEY FIRST BE ABLE TO FILE, OR TO SUBMIT IT ONLINE? AND TO CLARIFY, SORRY, 5 P.M. ON THE DAY OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, [01:20:01] RIGHT? SO HOW LONG? SO THAT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO START AT 8 A.M THAT DAY. THEY'LL HAVE. SO AS SOON AS THE AGENDA IS POSTED, WE WILL OPEN UP THOSE FORMS FOR PEOPLE TO REGISTER. WHICH, HOW MANY DAYS IS THAT NOW? THAT IS NOW THREE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. SO IT'S THREE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR. SO THEY'LL, GIVEN THAT OUR MEETINGS ARE ON TUESDAY, THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE A WEEKEND AS WELL. SO THEY'LL HAVE, YES. SO THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO IT. CORRECT. ALMOST A WEEK IN SOME CASES. WELL, I AM NORMALLY RESISTANT TO ALL THINGS TECHNOLOGY. I PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF WE GIVE THEM FIVE DAYS TO IF THEY HAVE FIVE DAYS, A MINIMUM OF FIVE DAYS TO DO IT AND WE ADVERTISE IT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE LINK IN THE AGENDA. AS LONG AS WE ADVERTISE IT AND LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING IT. AND NOT JUST SWITCH ONE MEETING WHERE EVERYBODY SHOWS UP AND THEY CAN'T TALK, BUT ADVERTISE, HEY, AS A EFFECT OF THIS DATE, IT'S GOING TO SWITCH TO THIS. I THINK THAT'S, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S JUST THE WAY EVERYTHING'S GOING. AND AS WE GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SPEAKING, I THINK IT'S FOR THE STAFF AND FOR THE RECORD KEEPING, AND FOR THE COMMUNICATION. I ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE THAT GOING ELECTRONIC IS REALLY GOOD. I KNOW IT HELPS WITH RECORD-KEEPING, WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND PARAMOUNT TO THE CITY. BUT I COULD ALSO SEE INDIVIDUALS COMING IN TO COUNSEL ON THE NIGHT OF AND WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT. AND REGARDLESS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THIS VERY STRONGLY TO CITIZENS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT GOING ON, BUT I WOULD ALMOST ENCOURAGE A MORE PHASED APPROACH TO GOING. LIKE, NOT FULLY ELECTRONIC, BUT GRADUALLY PHASING OUT BLUE CARDS, OR EVEN LEAVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE BLUE CARDS GOING FORWARD, BUT ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO USE THE QR CODE AND USE THE ELECTRONIC FORM AS A WAY TO KEEP THAT AVENUE OF COMMUNICATION OPEN. I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH GOING TO THE ELECTRONIC OPTION OF PRE REGISTERING AND GETTING THE BLUE CARDS OUT AHEAD OF TIME. I WOULD ASK, THOUGH, IF THERE'S LIKE A FIVE DAY MINIMUM. THREE DAYS FEELS A LITTLE SHORT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO POSTING THE AGENDA, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND HAVE AT LEAST SO IT ALWAYS BE AT LEAST FIVE DAYS, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S THREE BUSINESS DAYS AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE HOLIDAYS. SO TYPICALLY, WE ARE POSTING ON EITHER A TUESDAY OR A WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING. SO YOU TYPICALLY HAVE A FULL WEEK, NO LESS THAN SIX DAYS, NOT BUSINESS, BUT JUST SIX DAYS TO GET THAT AGENDA, TO GET SIGNED UP. OKAY. I AM IN FULL SUPPORT. THAT IS ACCURATE. THAT IS JUST ONE ADDITION. IF WE HAD A SPECIAL CALL MEETING THAT DIDN'T CROSS OVER A WEEKEND, THEN WE WOULD STILL JUST HAVE THE THREE BUSINESS DAYS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD A FRIDAY MEETING FOR WHATEVER REASON. WE POSTED THE AGENDA ON TUESDAY, OR WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE. YEAH, IT WOULD BE THE, NO, SO IT WOULD BE FRIDAY, SO MONDAY. MONDAY, SO THAT WOULD BE, SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE WEEKEND IN THE CASE OF A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. BUT FOR ANY NORMALLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHAT CHRISTY EXPLAINED WOULD APPLY. AND, TO ANN'S POINT, I THINK ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO CHANGE, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A GRACE PERIOD AND A ROLLOUT PERIOD WHERE WE EXTEND SOME GRACE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE NEW RULES. SO I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE PART OF JUST OUR PROCESS. AND PLUS, STAFF STILL HAS TO GET THIS UP AND RUNNING, AND WE PROBABLY WERE GOING TO TEST IT. SO IT WILL PROBABLY BE A MORE PHASED APPROACH ANYWAY, FOR THE REGISTRATION, AT LEAST. I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF HAVING A TRANSITION PLAN, OF MOVING US INTO THE NEW THING, BUT AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO READ THE NAMES AND HAS A VERY HARD TIME TRYING TO READ THEM, I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF GIVING PEOPLE MORE TIME. TO BE ABLE TO REGISTER WHERE YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO RUSH UP HERE JUST TO FILL OUT A BLUE CARD AND TURN IT IN. YOU CAN DO IT DAYS IN ADVANCE. BUT THEN ALSO, IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR STAFF, AND SELFISHLY ALSO FOR ME, TO BE ABLE TO CALL YOUR NAME APPROPRIATELY. WHEN IT'S TIME TO HAVE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD, I LIKE THE ELECTRONIC BECAUSE MY KIDS ARE WHIZZES ON THAT STUFF AND THEY'RE GREAT AT IT. BUT I'M KIND OF OLD SCHOOL, MY WIFE WILL TELL YOU. I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THE BLUE CARDS FOR PEOPLE THAT STRUGGLE WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DO THE CUTOFF AT 5 O'CLOCK. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE RUSHING HERE FROM WORK, I GET IT. YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS REALLY HARSH NOW. IN THE CITY OF FRISCO, NOT JUST THE CITY OF FRISCO, THE WHOLE NORTH, ACTUALLY ALL OF DALLAS, FORT WORTH. I CAN'T NAME A CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE [01:25:03] TRAFFIC. SO I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK THE CUTOFF SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE MEETING STARTS, WE START AT 7, I SAY, GIVE IT AN EXTRA 30 MINUTE. GRACE, 7.30. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYBODY THAT COMES HERE WANTS TO SIGN UP AND TALK, THEY CAN DO IT, AND THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM. AND SO, I'M ALL FOR THE ELECTRONIC. I KNOW, CHRISTY, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT. I ASKED YOU, WELL, HOW QUICKLY, IF SOMEONE DOES THE ELECTRONIC, DOES IT GET TO YOU? AND YOU WERE LIKE, WELL, I'M NOT SURE YET. AND THAT MAY TAKE 30 MINUTES. I DON'T KNOW. SOMETIMES I GET STUFF THAT I SUBMIT ELECTRONIC, DOESN'T COME IN RIGHT AWAY. SO UNTIL WE GET THAT PERFECTED, THAT IT'S INSTANTANEOUS. BUT I KNOW SOME OLDER PEOPLE, THEY STRUGGLE WITH THE ELECTRONIC STUFF. SO I'M FOR KEEP FOR INTRODUCING THE ELECTRONIC, BUT ALSO KEEPING THE PAPER. BUT AT LEAST I'M FOR MAYBE A CUT OFF AT 7, 30, 30 MINUTES AFTER THE MEETING STARTS. WELL, YOU ALL KNOW WHICH WAY I'M GONNA GO. UH, LOOK, ELECTRONICALLY, COVET TAUGHT US HOW TO USE THESE TO READ A MENU. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE THAT TOUGH FOR ANYBODY TO GO FIGURE OUT ELECTRONIC STUFF AND LOOK. ANYTHING THAT INCREASES EFFICIENCY AND LOWERS LEVEL OF EFFORT ON FOUR FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? HOWEVER, WHAT MARK AND SHAUNA AND WHAT JOSH SAID REALLY HOLDS SWAY, BECAUSE IT REMINDS ME ALSO. I'VE SAT THERE RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE, SIR, AND I'VE BEEN INSPIRED TO SPEAK BECAUSE OF WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE SAID BEFORE ME. HOW DO I KNOW SOMETIMES WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY? OR EVEN IF I HAVE THE COURAGE. TO SPEAK UNTIL I HEAR SOMEBODY ELSE SPEAK. THIS IS, YES, IT IS A FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT TO TALK ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEMS AND THIS AND THAT, BUT AS FAR AS HAVING A CUTOFF. FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR VOICES HEARD, THAT IS PARAMOUNT. MR. MAYOR, PLEASE. SO, TO THAT END, WHAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST. THE COUNCIL TO DO IS TO TABLE THIS AGAIN. THERE'S AN OLD ADAGE THAT'S, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. AND THE SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM ISN'T BROKEN. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN OPTIMIZE IT WITH ENGINEERING CONTROLS, BUT LET'S NOT HAVE A CUTOFF. THIS IS NONSENSICAL. OKAY. THE THIRD ITEM WAS PLACEMENT ON CITIZEN INPUT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA. YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS IS CHOOSING TO WHO ARE YOU GOING TO PRIORITIZE FOR PEOPLE WHO COME TO SPEAK? SO TONIGHT WE PRIORITIZED PEOPLE THAT WERE SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM. LAST MEETING, WE PRIORITIZED RESIDENTS THAT CAME TO SPEAK DURING NON-AGENDA ITEMS, WHILE 35 PEOPLE THAT WERE WAITING FOR AN ACTUAL CITY BUSINESS ITEM WAITED TO GET THROUGH THAT. MY PERSONAL TAKE ON THIS ONE, AFTER THINKING OVER IT THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, IS I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE DEFINED. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR RUNS THE MEETINGS PER THE CITY CHARTER, AND WE'VE KIND OF MOVED CITIZEN INPUT OVER THE YEARS, JUST DEPENDING ON WHERE WE WERE IN THE AGENDA. AND SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING AN ELECTRONIC SYSTEM IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE MAYOR THAT WOULD BE RUNNING THESE MEETINGS WILL KNOW THAT IF THERE'S AGENDA ITEM 27 THAT HAS FIVE PEOPLE WAITING TO SPEAK THAT THEY CAN PRIORITIZE THAT AGENDA ITEM. SO MY PERSONAL BELIEF IS THAT WHEN THE MAYOR IS PLANNING TO RUN THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, AFTER REFLECTION OVER THESE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS, IS. THE MAYOR SHOULD PRIORITIZE ALL ITEMS WITH CITIZEN INPUT, BUT GIVING A HIGHER PRIORITY TO AGENDA ITEMS WITH CITIZEN INPUT FIRST. AND SO THAT'S USUALLY HOW WE BUILD OUR AGENDAS. WHEN WE MOVE TO THE AGENDA, TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, IF WE TYPICALLY KNOW OR THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL BE SHOWING UP TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, WE TEND TO MOVE THAT UP HIGHER IN THE AGENDA, KNOWING TO GET THEM OUT. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS TO SPECIFICALLY BE DEFINED PER ORDINANCE, AS FAR AS WHERE IT IS IN THE AGENDA. I THINK IT CAN BE PART OF A CITY CHARTER MAYOR DISCRETION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT NIGHT LOOKS LIKE. I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DOCUMENT THAT, BUT I GUESS JUST MAYOR'S DISCRETION. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, MY WHOLE POINT IS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND THE BUSINESS OF THE CITIZENS AND GET THROUGH THAT. AND DO IT IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT THOSE THAT SHOW UP TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT CAN DO IT. RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO SPEAK ON OTHER THINGS, [01:30:01] AND YOUR POINT'S VALID OF HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT? WHEN THERE COULD BE. THREE PEOPLE FOR AN AGENDA ITEM AND 150 PEOPLE FOR A NON AGENDA ITEM, SO I'M FINE WITH THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION. I THINK THAT GETS US TO ACHIEVE OUR GOAL WITHOUT HAVING TO CREATE UNFORCED ERRORS IN HOW YOU DOCUMENT IT, SO I'M FINE WITH THAT. I AGREE. I THINK THAT HAVING THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE CITIZEN INPUT AROUND, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND TO GET TO CITY BUSINESS. AND I HEARD THAT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE ABOUT CITY BUSINESS. THEY'RE ABOUT LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, AND WE WANT TO ALSO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC TRUST IN COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO LISTEN AND HEAR WHAT'S BEING SAID. SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET PUSHED TO THE END OF THE MEETING, THAT YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION, JEFF, BUT ALSO, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I THINK EVEN WITH THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO USE THE BLUE CARDS STILL. MAYBE JUST GRADUALLY PHASE IT ALL OUT. I THINK MEETINGS HAVE AN AGENDA FOR A REASON, AND THE AGENDA IS TO KEEP PEOPLE FOCUSED. AND TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE COVERING WHAT YOU SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH AT THE ONSET OF A MEETING. AND WITH THAT, I THINK, TO MAYOR'S POINT, HAVING RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED. AND HOWEVER WE DO THAT, WHETHER IT'S I'M PUTTING IN GOVERNANCE AROUND THAT. IN TERMS OF THE TIMING THAT THEY SPEAK ON THE AGENDA, OR WHETHER IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I'M FINE, EITHER WAY, BUT I DO WANT TO PRIORITIZE THOSE WHO ARE SPEAKING ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THAT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. YEAH, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS GOING TO STAY WHERE IT IS. OR IT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE END OF THE MEETING. AND IT COULD PROBABLY BE A VERY VALID ARGUMENT, EITHER WAY. BUT I DO THINK THE IN THE INTEREST OF THE CITY, WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY. SO I'M FINE WITH THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION, KNOWING THAT THE MAYOR WILL DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS. FOR CITIZEN INPUT, I AGREE. I THINK WE NEED THE AGENDA ITEMS FIRST, BUT WE CAN DO THE AGENDA ITEMS FIRST AND THEN DO THE NON-AGENDA BEHIND IT AND THEN GET ON WITH THE MEETING. I DO WANT TO HEAR THE AGENDA STUFF FIRST. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE MEETING IS ABOUT, TYPICALLY. BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PUT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. I DISAGREE WITH THAT TOO, BECAUSE THE MEETINGS SOMETIMES DRAG ON AND IF PEOPLE COME TO SPEAK. MOST OF THESE MEETINGS, THESE ITEMS, I MEAN, PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK IS NOT THAT LONG. AND SO THERE'S BEEN TIMES, YES, BUT FOR MOST OF THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, IT'S PRETTY SHORT. I'M WITH KEEPING CITIZEN INPUT AT THE SAME SPOT, BUT I DON'T MIND THE AGENDA ITEM FIRST, BUT THEN THE NON AGENDA RIGHT BEHIND IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME. AND FOR ME, I'M FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER LAW THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT ON THE BOOKS. SO IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE MAYOR. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I THINK I HEARD CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE. OKAY, AND RULES OF DECORUM, THIS IS HOW WE. THIS IS A SIMPLE, ESSENTIALLY CODIFYING HOW WE'VE OPERATED IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY, BUT ACTUALLY MAKING IT SOMETHING MORE ENFORCEABLE. ANY COMMENTS OR TURNS ON ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS. I HEARD CONSENSUS ON DECORUM, I HEARD CONSENT. WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THIS PARAGRAPH IS FAR AS THE AGENDA, SO I GUESS WE WON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL CHANGE. BUT WHETHER WE WANT TO CODIFY, SOUND LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS. TO PRIORITIZE AGENDA ITEMS, CITIZEN INPUT YEAH, SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW MY MIC WAS. PRIORITIZE CITIZEN INPUT IN GENERAL, BUT HERE AGENDA ITEMS FIRST, I THINK IS A GOOD WAY TO SUMMARIZE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO THE CARDS. I HEARD, I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE I'M 100% SOLID ON THE MAJORITY OF THIS ONE. I HEARD A MAJORITY SAYING FINE GOING TO THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, HAVING SOME TYPE OF ROLLOUT PERIOD IN EDUCATION, BUT ANN, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONE THAT DIFFERED, THAT SAID, WANTED TO KEEP BLUE CARDS. I WANTED TO KEEP IT, TOO. YEAH. MAYOR, SO WHEN WE WROTE THE ORDINANCE, WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE ALTERNATIVES FOR SIGN-UP. SO ONE THING WE DISCUSSED WAS HAVE ELECTRONIC SIGN-UP, POTENTIALLY HAVE A PHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL WHERE PEOPLE COULD CALL IF THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE ELECTRONICALLY. [01:35:02] AND IF IT DIDN'T WORK, THEN WE WOULD FIGURE OUT SOMETHING LIKE A BLUE CARD OR SOME OTHER METHOD TO SIGN UP. SO WE WEREN'T LIMITED TO ELECTRONIC SIGN-UP. THE GOAL WAS TO GET AS MANY AS WE COULD, BUT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO JUST CAN'T DO IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT PERSON, TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD, HELPFUL DISTINCTION. THANK YOU. YEAH, SO TO DISTINGUISH THAT, WHAT WE DO WITH PIRS, PIRS ARE ALREADY ONLINE, BUT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND SUBMIT A PIR IN WRITING, WE FACILITATE THAT IN OUR OFFICE. LIKE, IF THEY CAN'T MANAGE THE COMPUTER, THEY CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. WE WOULD JUST EXTEND THAT SAME SERVICE TO PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COME INTO OUR OFFICE AND COMPLETE A BLUE CARD, AND WE WILL GET THAT ENTERED ELECTRONICALLY FOR THEM. ALL I'M SAYING IS, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. I THINK IT WAS BAKED IN THERE. GOT IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN THE FINAL, I DID HEAR MAJORITY OF GOING FROM THE FIVE TO THE THREE MINUTES. SO. COUNCIL, I'LL LOOK FOR MR. MAYOR, BEFORE YOU SAY THAT, CAN I ASK SOMETHING? SURE. GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING, AND I THINK I STAND A GOOD CHANCE OF BEING DONE BEFORE YOU, WITHOUT A RUNOFF, AND THEN YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO, UNLESS THERE'S OPPOSITION TO THIS, I LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE TRYING TO BECOME EFFICIENT. WE'RE TRYING TO ADD SOME STRUCTURE AS WE GET BIGGER AND HAVE MORE ISSUES AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME HERE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK I BROUGHT THAT UP ON OTHER THINGS, JUST ABOUT OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE AND PREVIOUS THINGS ABOUT MAKING MOTIONS. I'M ALL FOR STRUCTURE. I PERSONALLY, WHILE I AM FOR THE MOST OF THEM, OF THESE CHANGES, AND YOU SUMMARIZE MY VIEWS GREAT, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT AND JUST HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. BECAUSE WE ARE IMPACTING OUR CITIZENS' ABILITY TO COME SPEAK TO US. AND I'D RATHER JUST TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT, THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE, AND JUST BEFORE WE START MAKING CHANGES, MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT AND NOT. NOT RUSHING INTO SOMETHING, I KNOW THAT'S EXTRA STAFF TIME, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH QUESTIONS AND MINOR DIFFERENCES THAT IT MIGHT NOT HURT. JUST TO TAKE ONE MORE LOOK AT IT AND PUSH IT. BUT THAT'S JUST MY WELL, IT WOULD COME BEFORE US ONE FINAL TIME, RIGHT? OR NO? WE COULD MAKE IT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER HAVE TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT WITH THE CHANGES IN IT, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK. SO YOU'LL BRING IT BACK WITH THE REVISED CHANGES ANYWAY? YES, SIR. OKAY, EXCEPT I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE REVISED CHANGES. I'M NOT EITHER. I'M NOT EVEN SURE. SOME OF THE STUFF I SAID, YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WAFFLING. I WOULD JUST, THIS IS IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS FROM THE CITIZENS, HOW IT LOOKS AT WHAT WE'RE DOING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT, ESPECIALLY SINCE.I'M NOT GOING TO BE UP HERE. PROBABLY WHEN IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'M NOT AS PASSIONATE ABOUT BURT. THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, LOSING TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TO SPEAK IS VIOLATING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT, RIGHT? DIDN'T SAY THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO RUSH INTO IT, AND I'D RATHER JUST SIT AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. SO TO GIVE, I GUESS, DIRECTION, YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT CLEAR. I THINK THE ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE THE THIRD ITEM, THE PLACEMENT ON THE CITY. YES. WELL, THANK YOU, KEN, BUT I HEARD SOME THINGS THAT WERE UNRESOLVED. SO LET ME, IF I MAY, JUST REAL QUICK. THE QUORUM IS GOOD. EVERYBODY, I THINK I'M CLEAR THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO LEAVE IT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE MAYOR FOR THE NON-AGENDA COMMENT PERIOD. SO THAT'S, I'M CLEAR THERE. BERT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NO CUTOFF TIME. DOES ANYBODY SUPPORT THAT FROM THE COUNCIL? YEAH, SO NO, YOU CAN SIGN UP WHENEVER YOU WANT. OH. THAT'S ONE THAT I'M NOT SURE WHEN I WANT THE CUTOFF TIME TO BE, HONESTLY. FIVE O'CLOCK. I DO HEAR THE THOUGHT OF I'M SITTING THERE AND I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT. JUST ALL NIGHT, YOU KNOW, THREE IN THE MORNING, PEOPLE JUST WALKING UP WITH CARS AT THE LAST SECOND. TO START TALKING ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN, SOME, YOU KNOW, CRAZY STUFF. BUT I DO WANT A CUTOFF. I'M NOT SURE IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK. SO WE NEED TO GET AN DIRECTION ON THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE, FRANKLY, CHRISSY CAN TALK TO THE MECHANICS OF THAT, BECAUSE AT 5 O'CLOCK SHE'S UP IN OUR OFFICE TAKING NOTES IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND THEN BACK AT 6.30, TRYING TO GET THE MEETING STARTED. SO IF IT'S 5 O'CLOCK, THEY CAN PREP IN ADVANCE. IS, I THINK, WHY YOU CAME UP WITH THAT. YES. AND, HONESTLY, 5 O'CLOCK IS THE LATEST OF ANY SURROUNDING CITY. SOME REQUIRE THEM THE DAY BEFORE, SO LIKE MONDAY. OTHERS REQUIRE IT TO BE DONE BY NOON. I FOUND ONE THAT ALLOWED IT TO BE BY 4 O'CLOCK IF THE MEETING STARTED AT 630. AND SO IT DOES, IT DOES COMPLICATE THINGS TO BE ABLE TO GATHER ALL THAT INFORMATION AND GET IT TRANSFERRED TO ALL OF YOU AND IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER. JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY [01:40:01] IN A MEETING AT THE TIME. SO I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY DOUBLE-DUTY AT THAT POINT. SO WHILE IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IT JUST, IT DOES COMPLICATE THINGS. I GUESS IF WE DO FIVE, SORRY. OKAY. IF WE DO BY FIVE O'CLOCK, BUT WE LEAVE THE BLUE CARDS OPEN UNTIL LATER, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT IDEA. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECT. I JUST WOULD LIKE ANOTHER, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. NO, THAT'S FINE. I JUST, I JUST PERSONALLY DON'T, I LIKE THE WAY WE'RE GOING. I LIKE ADDING STRUCTURE. I JUST DON'T PERSONALLY I SEE THE NEED TO. AND I JUST NEED CLARITY SO WE CAN WRITE THE ORDINANCE THE RIGHT WAY. RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A MIX OF BLUE CARDS AND ELECTRONIC, THE POTENTIAL ISSUE THERE IS THAT NOBODY IS GOING TO USE THE ELECTRONICS. WE'RE JUST DOING BLUE CARDS, AND WE'RE NOT SOLVING THE ISSUE. THAT'S FAIR. AND THEN IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE TIMING AND MEETINGS, LIKE RIGHT NOW, MOST OF THE SPEAKERS, THEY JUST FILL THE BLUE CARD. BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY. THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE IT. RIGHT. RIGHT? BUT WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GLADLY FILED ONLINE YESTERDAY OR TODAY AT 430. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM, AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH NUANCES BETWEEN WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, THAT THE SMART THING TO DO OR NOT. MY OPINION ABOUT THE SMART THING TO DO WOULD BE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. JUST PAUSE. I DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH BRIAN. THAT'S BRIAN. WEED. WHAT? LIVINGSTON, SORRY. LIVINGSTON, SORRY. YEAH, DEFINITELY, I'M FOR PROGRESS USING ELECTRONIC. WE NEED TO KEEP THE PAPER. I'M FOR OPENING IT UP, NO TIME LIMIT, BECAUSE, LIKE COUNCILMAN THACKER SAID, SOMEONE MAY GET IT MAY GET MOVED AND SAY THEY WANT TO SPEAK AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO FUMBLE WITH THEIR PHONE AND STUFF. AND THE BLUE CARD ALLOWS THEM TO DO IT REAL QUICKLY AND GIVE IT TO CHRISTY. BECAUSE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, COME UP AFTER THE MEETING HAS STARTED AND HANDING IN A BLUE CARD. I'VE SEEN IT MORE TIMES THAN NOT THAT HAPPENS. SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THEY'RE RUNNING LATE OR THEY'RE NOT SURE, AND THEN THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO SPEAK. LET HIM DO IT. SO I WANT TO KEEP THE TIME LIMIT OPEN. ALL RIGHT, WELL, TO MOVE US ALONG. I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT, MAYBE, TO TABLE IT AND HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. UM, GIVE STAFF TIME TO FINALIZE SOME OF THE CHANGES THEY HEARD TONIGHT AND THEN TAKE FINAL ACTION AT OUR NEXT MEETING. MAKE A MOTION TO NO. MAYOR, SORRY, YOU STILL GOT MORE ITEMS? I MEAN, I DON'T I'M HEARING WHAT, WHAT JARED IS SAYING, BUT I'VE NOT HEARD CONSENSUS FROM THE COUNCIL. I DON'T SO WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO WRITE? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO IF WE WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THIS IN ANOTHER WORK SESSION, I'D LIKE US TO EACH SEND YOU, CAN WE SEND YOU OUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS AFTER THE MEETING TONIGHT? WELL, WE NEED TO GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION FOR WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A CONSENSUS OF COUNSEL. AND SO THIS IS MY BIRTHDAY. I'D LOVE TO GO HOME. YEAH, I BET. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. I JUST NEED DIRECTION. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT EITHER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. I AGREE. I WOULD SAY THAT LET'S BRING IT BACK TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION. BECAUSE, ONE, FOR EFFICIENCY. FOR THIS EVENING, WE CAN SEND YOU ALL OUR THOUGHTS OF CONSIDERATIONS. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE EACH OF US ARE COMING FROM. BUT THEN ULTIMATELY WE CAN COME BACK, HAVE A CONVERSATION, ANOTHER DEBATE IN ANOTHER SETTING WHERE YOU CAN GO ENJOY YOUR BIRTHDAY CAKE. WELL, I MEAN, EVERY TIME WE DO A WORK SESSION, THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD HANDLE THAT AT A COUNCIL MEETING. I MEAN, I THINK REALLY, KIND OF THE ONLY ITEM THAT'S MAYBE I'M HEARING NOT A MAJORITY COMFORTABLE. IS THIS CUTOFF TIME, RIGHT? AND SO CUTOFF TIME AND WHETHER OR NOT WE KEEP THE BLUE CARDS OR NOT. RIGHT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF TOGETHER WITH IT. NOW, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ALREADY SAID WE'LL DO BLUE CARDS IF PEOPLE CANNOT FIGURE OUT. LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE A REGISTRATION PROCESS, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO POINT PEOPLE TO THE ELECTRONIC. WE'RE TRYING TO TRAIN. THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT. THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER WAYS, SO THAT'S ALREADY BAKED INTO IT. SO, REALLY, IT COMES DOWN TO THE CUTOFF TIME, RIGHT? SO JUST FOR MY CLARITY, SO THE PURPOSE OF SENDING THIS BACK IS NOT TO DISCUSS LOWERING THIS FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES, BUT ONLY ABOUT THE CUTOFF TIME AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING FULLY ELECTRONIC. THAT'S IT. COUNCIL CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THEY WANT IF IT COMES BACK. I THINK THE TIME CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND. YEAH, IS TO POSTPONE IT, TO THINK ABOUT IT MORE. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THIRD THAT. OKAY. I WILL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION BY BRIAN TO TABLE TO THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING. I'M TRYING TO GIVE DIRECTION. SECOND. IT [01:45:02] SOUNDS LIKE THE ONLY CHANGE COUNCIL WILL BE EXPECTING YOU IS MAYBE THE THIRD ITEM. WE MAY STILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THE OTHERS. COUNCIL, I MEAN, THE THIRD ITEM MEANS THE NON-AGENDA CAN GO WHEREVER YOU WANT IT TO GO? IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO STAY HOW IT IS. IT'S GOING TO, THE CHANGE IS GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS, IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SIGN UP, THAT'S HOW IT WILL BE PRIORITIZED. THE THIRD ITEM BEING THE CUTOFF TIME AND THE BLUE CARDS. THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE TWO. OKAY. THAT'S THE SECOND ITEM. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT ASKING, COUNCIL STILL NEEDS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. BUT I THINK THE THIRD ITEM. IS ALREADY DIRECTION TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE? YES, I CAN, UH. MOTION BY BRIAN, SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY JARED, ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, THAT PASSES UM, SIX, ZERO. UM. SO THAT WAS OUR LAST REGULAR CITY, REGULAR GEN ITEM, SO NOW WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC INPUT. CITIZEN OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW THIS EVENING. UM, I WILL SAY YOUR NAME AND THEN I WILL GIVE THE NEXT PERSON AFTER YOU. IF YOU COULD COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC AT THE PODIUM. YOU WILL SEE YOUR TIME CLOCK AND, AS YOU SAW WITH THE AGENDA EARLIER. IT WILL BEEP AT YOU ONCE YOU GET CLOSE TO TIME, AND THEN IT WILL BEEP AT YOU AGAIN ONCE YOU OR YOUR FIVE MINUTES ARE UP. SO FIRST WE HAVE MARK PALACIANO, NEXT WE HAVE KELLY SMITH. HELLO, TYRANTS. I HAVE YOU GUYS EXPOSING YOURSELVES TONIGHT. Y'ALL ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, SHOWING EVERYONE YOUR DISDAIN FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT. OF COURSE, YOU'RE REDUCING THE TIME LIMIT FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. YOU GUYS ARE PROVING THE PRESSURE THAT I'M APPLYING IS WORKING. YOU GUYS HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND YOU ACT LIKE WE'RE BEING DISRESPECTFUL FOR SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE. NICE VIRTUE SIGNALING, ANN. BUT I WOULDN'T FEEL SAFE HAVING ELECTED OFFICIALS IN AMERICA WHO DON'T RESPECT THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND FIRST AMENDMENT. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY I STARTED COMING HERE IN APRIL LAST YEAR TO SPEAK? BECAUSE T-MOBILE GOT ME CENSORED AND SHADOW BANNED ON EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM I WAS USING TO EXPOSE THEM AS A WHISTLEBLOWER. AND I KNEW THIS WAS THE ONLY PLACE I COULD COME WHERE T-MOBILE COULDN'T HAVE ME DELETED FROM THE INTERNET. THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS DYING BECAUSE OF TYRANTS LIKE YOU ALL AND TYRANNICAL COMPANIES LIKE T-MOBILE. AND TONIGHT, YOU'RE PROVING IT EVEN MORE. MAYOR CHENEY, THE LAST TIME YOU TALKED ABOUT ETHICS AND HOW YOU'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE TIME YOUR 18-YEAR-OLD SON HOSTED A GRADUATION PARTY WHERE UNDERAGE PEOPLE WERE DRINKING ALCOHOL AND DOING KEG STANDS IN YOUR BACKYARD? FACE A BUNCH OF 18 YEAR OLDS DRINKING IN YOUR BACKYARD. LET ME PLAY, UH, WELL, LET ME, I ALREADY PLAYED YOUR SNAPCHAT. I FOUND THAT INTERESTING, ESPECIALLY SINCE SOMEONE FILED AN ETHICS COMPLAINT ABOUT IT AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHUT IT DOWN. ALSO, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE FRISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT NOW I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP TO YOUR HOUSE. WHEN THERE WERE 911 CALLS ABOUT THIS PARTY, MAYBE THE POLICE CHIEF KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAT. WHY WASN'T THERE ANY MORE INVESTIGATION? I KNOW IF IT WERE ME OR ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE HOSTING UNDERAGE KIDS DRINKING ALCOHOL ON OUR PROPERTY, WE WOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL AND BEEN PROSECUTED FOR IT. BUT SINCE IT WAS THE MAYOR OF FRISCO, NOTHING HAPPENS. MAYBE IT'S JUST ANOTHER ODD COINCIDENCE, LIKE YOUR NET WORTH EXPLODING WHILE BEING THE MAYOR. FRISCO IS COOKED. THIS CITY IS DONE. YOU MAY AS WELL CHANGE THE CITY NAME TO MUMBAI, BECAUSE IN A FEW YEARS, THIS ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR WILL BE INDIAN. LAST MEETING HELPED PROVE MY POINT. A BUNCH OF WOKE BOOMERS SHOWED UP AND VIRTUE SIGNAL. WHILE COMPLETELY NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. HOW MANY OF THEM DO YOU THINK REACHED OUT TO ME TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT I'M EXPOSING? NOT A SINGLE ONE, EVEN THOUGH THEIR ENTIRE MESSAGE WAS BUILT ON WITH COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE. IN A FEW YEARS, THEY'LL BE SITTING IN A RETIREMENT HOME NEEDING SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND FRISCO WILL BE COMPLETELY UNRECOGNIZABLE. I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FRISCO RESIDENTS ABOUT THE SCHOOLS HERE BEING 70% INDIAN KIDS. THAT IS NOT DIVERSITY. THIS IS AN INDIAN TAKEOVER, AND THE RATE IT'S HAPPENING WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE. OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE VISITED A LOT OF COMPANIES WITH H-1B EMPLOYEES REGISTERED TO THEM. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I SAW? GHOST OFFICES. EMPTY OFFICES WITH BUSINESSES REGISTERED TO THEM, AND TONS OF H-1B EMPLOYEES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, BUT WEREN'T. YOU GUYS WANT TO CALL ME AN OUTSIDE AGITATOR, BUT I'M A LIFELONG DALLAS TEXAN, AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH H-1B AND THE SHADINESS BEHIND IT AFFECTS ME WHERE I LIVE. PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING AT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THE SAME ISSUE IN PROSPER. THE SAME ISSUE IN IRVING. ALL OF YOU ELECTED OFFICIALS SAY IT'S A FEDERAL PROBLEM. BUT I BET IF YOU FOUND ME BREAKING A FEDERAL LAW, YOUR FRISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD ENGAGE THE FEDS TO PROSECUTE ME. BUT IT'S [01:50:01] FUNNY HOW THAT SAME MINDSET DOESN'T WORK WITH H-1B VISA FRAUD. I CAN PROMISE YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE ATTENTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET WITH H-1B AND THE INDIAN TAKEOVER. THERE ARE A LOT OF JOURNALISTS WITH BIG PLATFORMS DIGGING INTO WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DAY WHEN IT GOES REALLY VIRAL. AND JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M PERSONALLY BEING TARGETED BY INDIANS. INDIANS ARE NOW VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW WITH HOW THEY'VE TARGETED ME WITH SPAM CALLS. MY PHONE RINGS OVER 30 TIMES A DAY, WHEN IT USED TO GO DAYS OR WEEKS WITHOUT RINGING. AND ON TOP OF FEDERAL LAW, THEY'RE BREAKING STATE LAW WITH TARGETED HARASSMENT. BUT I'M SURE NONE OF YOU CARE, BECAUSE NONE OF YOU SERVE YOUR OATH TO THE CONSTITUTIONS. AND AS A REMINDER, T-MOBILE IS THE BIGGEST PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYER IN FRISCO, AND THEY'RE LAYING OFF TEXANS WHILE OPENING UP A NEW OFFICE IN HYDERABAD, INDIA. AND THE WHOLE REASON I SPEAK HERE IS BECAUSE T-MOBILE VIOLATED MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN THEIR OFFICE IN FRISCO, TEXAS. AT WARREN PARKWAY AND THE TOLLWAY. I'VE EXPOSED HOW THEY USE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AMERICANS, HOW THEY CENSOR TEXT MESSAGES DURING COVID, HOW THEY PROVIDE UNLIMITED MONEY FOR TRANSGENDER SURGERIES. AND, IN FACT, LET ME PLAY A LITTLE CLIP OF A VIDEO OF A T-MOBILE EMPLOYEE SHARING THEIR TRANSITION SURGERY ON A COMPANY WEBSITE, ON A COMPANY WEBCAST. MY TOP SURGERY. AND SO WITH THE DREAMS WE'RE BEGINNING TO THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR SUPPORTING T MOBILE. KELLY SMITH, AFTER THAT WE HAVE BLAKE. HEY GUYS, GLAD I CAN COME UP HERE AND GIVE THIS SPEECH BEFORE WE TURN INTO EUROPE. I DOVE DEEPER AND LOOKED INTO SOME HOUSING. SEVERAL HOMES ARE BEING BOUGHT. THE OWNER IS RETURNING TO INDIA AND RENTING OUT EVERY ROOM. SOME OF THESE HOMES ARE EVEN LISTED AS HOMESTEADED ON THE CAD TAX WISE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEING USED AS A MINI-APARTMENT BUILDING WITH THE OWNER IN INDIA. AND THAT MAKES SENSE, CONSIDERING ALL THE TECH COMPANIES HIRING H-1B EMPLOYEES THAT ARE BEING RAN OUT OF THEM. THIS ADVERTISEMENT SAYS THEY WILL SELL A HOME TO AN INDIAN FAMILY FOR $136,000 LESS THAN THE ADVERTISED PRICE. REGISTERED LLCS ARE BUYING UP PROPERTIES IN COLLIN COUNTY AND ONLY SELLING TO INDIANS AND MUSLIMS. IT'S RIGHT HERE. THERE IS CLEAR AND CONSISTENT HOUSING DISCRIMINATION GOING ON, AND THE MAJOR DEMOGRAPHICS CHANGE IS FURTHER PROOF OF THIS. HARRY WHALEN FLEW TO INDIA TO BEG THEM ALL TO COME HERE. THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE 22,000 H-1B FILINGS IN THE FRISCO AREA ALONE. I THOUGHT CITY COUNCIL WAS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE TAXPAYERS. I'M PRETTY SURE NOBODY VOTED TO BE REPLACED WITH INDIA, YET HERE WE ARE, AND THIS IS STARTING TO AFFECT THE SURROUNDING CITIES. I'M GOING TO STAND UP FOR THE WHITE KIDS FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I'VE GOT TWO OF THEM. AND MY DAUGHTERS DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY FIT INTO IN THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. IN 1999, FRISCO WAS A RAPIDLY GROWING SUBURBAN DISTRICT WITH A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE DEMOGRAPHIC. TOSSED TEST SCORES EXCEEDED THE STATE AVERAGES, AND THE DISTRICT GAINED RECOGNITION FOR QUALITY SCHOOLS. THESE KIDS ARE NOW BEING DOWNPLAYED AS IF THEY ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO WORK IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. MICROSOFT, APPLE, GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, NVIDIA, ALL AMERICAN-MADE COMPANIES. DELL WAS FOUNDED BY A UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN GRADUATE. WILLIAM HIGGINBOTHAM OF CONNECTICUT CREATED THE FIRST VIDEO GAME. STEVE RUSSELL, AN MIT STUDENT, CREATED SPACEWAY, THE FIRST GAME TO BE PLAYED ACROSS MULTIPLE INSTALLATIONS. I COULD GO ON AND ON. AMERICANS ARE FOREFRONT, TOP-TIER INNOVATORS AND INVENTORS. WHY IS OUR OWN GOVERNMENT FAILING US? AND LETTING OTHER COUNTRIES TAKE AWAY OUR JOBS AND NOT INVESTING INTO ITS OWN PEOPLE. THE TEXAS HOUSE PASSED HOUSE BILL 2038, STREAMLINING FOREIGN DOCTORS INTO OUR SYSTEM. WHEN OUR OWN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAPPED SPENDING TO FUND REQUIRED RESIDENCY FOR ITS OWN AMERICAN DOCTORS IN 1997, WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR AMERICAN DOCTORS. ON MY DAD'S SIDE, I'M A TEXAN THROUGH AND THROUGH. I HAVE A COUNTY NAMED AFTER MY FAMILY. MY BROTHER SERVES IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY TO SUPPORT MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. ON MY MOM'S SIDE, I'M A THIRD-GENERATION ITALIAN IMMIGRANT. WHEN MY ITALIAN FAMILY CAME HERE FROM SICILY, THEY DID NOT GET GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS. THERE WAS NO WELFARE, NO DIRECT JOB PLACEMENT, JUST FOR BEING ITALIAN. THEY HAD TO LEARN ENGLISH AND CREATE WORK FOR THEMSELVES OUT OF THIN AIR. THEY HAD TO BECOME INNOVATIVE AND EMBODY THE AMERICAN SPIRIT OF CREATING SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING. THEY SPOKE ITALIAN AND CELEBRATED THEIR HERITAGE AT HOME, BUT THE MOMENT THEY WALKED OUT OF THE FRONT DOOR, THEY WERE AMERICANS FIRST. THIS IS MY POP-POP. LOOK AT THAT AMERICAN FLAG. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE IMMIGRANTS BACK IN THE DAY AND THE IMMIGRANTS COMING NOW. I'M REALLY CONFUSED AS TO WHAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN. [01:55:01] THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE, THEY'RE TAKING AWAY JOBS, THEY'RE PIGGYBACKING ON SYSTEMS THAT WERE ALREADY BUILT AND PUT INTO PLACE. WE NEED TO BRING BACK THE AMERICAN WORKER, SUPPORT OUR AMERICAN COMPANIES, DOCTORS, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING OUR COUNTRY AWAY. GREG ABBOTT IF YOU HEAR THIS, YOU'RE A COWARD FOR SELLING OUT TEXAS THE WAY YOU DID. FRISCO CITY COUNCIL IS EVEN WORSE FOR EXPLOITING THE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS FOR PROFIT OVER ITS OWN TEXAN KIDS AND CITIZENS. WAS HARRY WEYLAND AWARE THAT THE UNITED STATES COMMISSION ON INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IS CALLING OUR GOVERNMENT TO NAME INDIA A COUNTRY OF PARTICULAR CONCERN? THEY ARE DRAGGING CHRISTIAN PREACHERS IN THE STREETS, BEATING THEM WITH BATS, AND FORCING THEM TO EAT COW DUNG. YOU GUYS ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY. NOT THE AFTERMATH OF BRINGING A CULTURE HERE THAT ISN'T ASSIMILATING AND COULD CARE LESS ABOUT AMERICA. TEXAS ISN'T JUST ONE BIG BUSINESS PARK. IT'S OUR HOME. IT'S OUR LEGACY TO PASS DOWN TO OUR CHILDREN. THE LAND, THE NATURAL RESOURCES, THE WATER. TEXAS NEEDS TO BE TREATED AS MORE THAN AN INVESTMENT FOR FOREIGN INTERESTS. OUR TRADITIONS AND TRADITIONS AND OUR COUNTRY MATTER, BUT WE WILL NOT SURVIVE AT THIS RATE OF INFILTRATION. I HOPE THE MONEY IS WORTH IT. GOD BLESS Y'ALL. KAYLEE, SEAVER AND THEN CLAYTON, YORK. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THESE TWO GENTLEMEN ON THE END FOR SPEAKING UP FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT. AND THE OPPOSITION TO LIMITING THE ABILITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT. AND THEN I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC INPUT. BECAUSE CLAIMING IT'S BEEN A LONG THOUGHT PROCESS AND NOT A IMMEDIATE REACTION TO PROPOSE THESE CHANGES DOESN'T SEEM ENTIRELY TRUE. HERE'S AN EXCERPT FROM COMMUNITY IMPACT ON THIS TOPIC FROM FEBRUARY 19TH. A NON AGENDA ITEM COULD BE A CITY RELATED ISSUE, MAYOR JEFF CHENEY SAID. IT COULD BE. I KNOW IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I STILL WANT YOU TO NOT BUILD THE DOG PART NEXT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M GOING TO COME EVERY MEETING AND TELL YOU THAT. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME CITY COUNCIL HAS CONSIDERED CHANGING ITS RULES REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT. CITY ATTORNEY RICHARD ABERNATHY SAID COUNCIL MEMBERS PREVIOUSLY ASKED HIM TO REVIEW THEIR OPTIONS FOR CHANGING THE PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY WHEN THERE WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS. QUOTE, PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLE CAME EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, ASKING THE COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION. WE CAME BACK WITH A BUNCH OF SUGGESTIONS. IT WAS DECIDED NOT TO DO ANYTHING AT THE TIME BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME. SO WHY IS NOW THE RIGHT TIME? CHENEY SAID CITY COUNCIL HAS OPTED AGAINST CHANGING THE PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY IN THE PAST BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASSUME THE SITUATION WON'T EVENTUALLY PASS. NOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE RECONSIDERING RULE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE WHAT OCCURRED ON FEBRUARY 3RD MAY NOT BE A ONE-TIME ISSUE. QUOTE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHERE AGITATORS HAVE MOVED ALONG, AND SO THEN THREE OR FOUR MONTHS GO BY, WE HAVE NORMAL CITIZEN INPUT, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF FORGET ABOUT IT, CHENEY SAID. BUT IT'S BECOMING INCREASINGLY LIKELY THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. END QUOTE. THREE, FIVE MINUTES, IT DOESN'T MATTER. SOME OF YOU CLEARLY DON'T LISTEN TO EACH OTHER. LIKE, YOU DON'T LISTEN TO US, YOU CLEARLY AREN'T LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. WHY WOULD YOU LISTEN TO US? NOW I'LL ADDRESS WHAT I WAS HERE TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT. IN 2024, FRISCO RANKED NUMBER EIGHT IN TEXAS FOR H-1B APPROVALS, THE SAME YEAR THAT MS. KELLY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACCOMPANYING THE GOVERNOR IN FLYING TO MOBILE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, 33 H-1B DEPENDENT COMPANIES ARE REGISTERED TO ONE BUILDING ON WARREN PARKWAY, AN H-1B GHOST OFFICE. THAT I WENT AND SAW THREE DAYS IN A ROW THIS WEEK. EMPTY. NO ONE THERE. LIGHTS OFF. I GOT PICTURES. THEY ALSO RUN A FOREIGN INVESTMENT CONSTRUCTION FUND, WHICH IS BUILDING THAT SAME STRIP RIGHT THERE ON COIT, DONATED TO A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL. A RESTAURANT OFF PRESTON HAS BEEN CAUGHT ONLY HIRING F1 STUDENTS AND PAYING THEM CASH UNDER THE TABLE. NOW, MAYBE TONIGHT'S FACEBOOK POST WILL CONTAIN H-1B VISAS OR FEDERAL ISSUE OUTSIDE AGITATORS CAME TO SPEW HATE, BUT DOES ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE TRIP TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY DOESN'T IMPACT THE CITY OF FRISCO? COULD HE NOT HAVE SAID NO AND COMMIT A HUNDRED PERCENT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF FRISCO AND ITS CITIZENS ALREADY HERE? IF THE CITY OFFICIAL CAN INTERMINGLE IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS, WHICH ONE COULD SAY IS ALSO A FEDERAL ISSUE, WHAT IS STOPPING THE CITY FROM STAYING RIGHT HERE? AND ADOPTING A RESOLUTION REQUESTING STATE AND FEDERAL AUTHORITIES TO INVESTIGATE THE FRAUD IN THE CITY. NOTHING [02:00:01] IN STATE LAW PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM ADOPTING A RESOLUTION THAT FORMALLY REQUESTS AN INVESTIGATION FROM ENTITIES LIKE THE TEXAS AG, ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THE FBI, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OR ANY AGENCIES UNDER THE FEDERAL JURISDICTION. THERE'S ALREADY A PETITION WITH OVER 200 SIGNATURES REQUESTING THIS ACTION. BUT INSTEAD, WE'VE GOTTEN THESE PROPOSALS TO CHANGE PUBLIC INPUT, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS CALLING CITIZENS' NAMES, AND THEN LITERALLY THE NEXT SENTENCE CALLING FOR UNITY, UNLESS YOU GET BLOCKED, CHENEY. THAT'S LAZY LEADERSHIP. YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED ANYTHING. YOU JUST MADE IT EASIER FOR YOU TO NOT HEAR CRITICISM. WE WOULD LIKE ANSWERS, ACTION, NOT FACEBOOK POSTS, AND THEN PROTECTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU. CLAYTON, YORK. AND THEN NEXT IS MARTIN PETETTI. HELLO, SIR. I AM SANJAY GUTPA. I AM TRANSRACIAL INDIAN. SIR, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING FOR THE INDIAN COMMUNITY. WE NEED 10,000 MORE H-1BS. TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE INDIAN COMMUNITY, I'VE STOPPED USING THE CITY GARBAGE SERVICE, AND I'VE STARTED THROWING MY TRASH OUTSIDE AND POOPING EVERYWHERE. I LOVE POOP. THE CITY SMELLS TOO CLEAN AND IT IS OFFENSIVE TO ME AND MY CULTURE. AND I NEED IT TO SMELL MORE LIKE POOP SO I CAN FEEL AT HOME. I ALSO ASK THAT WE REMOVE ALL DEODORANT AND SOAP FROM THE STORES AND FRISCO. IS IT OFFENSIVE? SHOUT OUT VIVEK RAMASWAMY AND SHOUT OUT KASH PATEL. WE NEED TO LEGALIZE PUBLIC DEFECATION. THANK YOU. MARTIN, MARTIN PEDETTI, AND THEN AFTER THAT, PAUL JESSEN. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESPECTED MAYOR, I'M NOT CRITICIZING ANYONE, YOU CAN LAUGH. AND I DON'T LIKE TO DISRESPECT ANY COUNTRY'S FLAG ON THIS FLOOR. LET'S RESPECT EACH OTHER. WE ARE ALL HERE, WE ALL LIVE TOGETHER. OKAY, MY NAME IS MARTIN PARITI. I LIVE IN MAJESTIC GARDENS ON WEST FRISCO. I RAN INTO THE PRIMARIES. RECENT ELECTIONS AND I'M NOT HERE FOR CAMPAIGN SPEECH. AND I RAN FOR A JUSTICE OF PEACE IN DENTON COUNTY PRISON, TOO, AND I GOT CLOSELY, LIKE A 2400 VOTES. AND DURING MY CAMPAIGN, I LISTENED A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY SAID PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVICTED AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT'S A TRUE STORY OR THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING THE LIES. THEN I WENT TO MY FELLOW JUDGE FRIEND AND TOOK COURT AND SIT INTO THE EVICTION PROCESS IN ONE WEEK. AND I SAW 80% OF THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVICTED, AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE FROM THE JOB LOSS. AND THEN I REALIZED, I ASKED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, WHY? THIS IS RELATED TO THE JOB LOSS. THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE ALL RELATED TO THE TECH JOBS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH THE FOREIGN WORKERS. I KNOW THIS NIGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING ABOUT INDIA, INDIANS OCCUPYING AND ALL THAT STORY. WE HAVE A SOLUTION HERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCE. WE TALKED ABOUT AN ORDINANCE, AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE WHAT THIS ORDINANCE MEANS. THE ORDINANCE IS A CITY LAW THAT HAS THE SAME POWER AS YOUR FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT. YOU HAVE THE LAW HERE, AND I'M REQUESTING THIS NIGHT ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ISSUE AN ORDINANCE. IN THE H-1B, F-1B, VISA FRAUD IS PROHIBITED. DO YOU WILL? BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE BLAMING INDIANS AND BECAUSE A FEW PEOPLE ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND WE HAVE A GHOST COMPANIES. AND IF YOU GO TO ANY RESTAURANTS, YOU CAN SEE STUDENTS ARE WORKING IN THE RESTAURANTS. SO THESE PEOPLE DID NOT COME HERE TO STUDY, THEY ARE COMING HERE TO SETTLE DOWN. SO YOU CAN FIX THE ISSUE, PASS AN ORDINANCE LAW, YOU CAN MAKE FRISCO PROUD. WE ALL WANTED TO LIVE TOGETHER. WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE CONTINUING FOR EVERY WEEK, CONTINUING ALL THIS TIME. SO, I HUMBLY REQUEST ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, TRY TO SEE IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY. YOU CAN ISSUE AN ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN DECLARE THERE IS NO VISA FRAUD IS ENCOURAGED IN THIS CITY. THAT WILL MAKE THE FRISCO PROUD, THAT WILL MAKE UNITED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS PAUL JESSEN. AFTER THAT, WE HAVE SEHAS KAUL. I TOLD YOU, THESE [02:05:08] MEETINGS WERE ENTERTAINING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LIGHT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE FOR ME TONIGHT, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MAYBE THERE'D BE SOME WORK DONE ON IT. MY NAME IS PAUL JESSEN. PAUL, I KNOW YOU INTEND WELL, BUT PLEASE DON'T DO THAT AGAIN. I HAVE AN EYE ISSUE, AND I'VE BEEN HELPED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE OF THE FLASH. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HAVE BRIGHT LIGHTS. THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU WASN'T IT WAS CUTE. I'LL LEAVE IT OUT. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST DO VERBAL. NO PROPS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND BY THE WAY, I APPRECIATE THE CORRECTION I GOT LAST TIME. I MISUNDERSTOOD THE DYNAMICS. SO BY KNOWING THAT, I CAN DO WHAT I NEED TO DO PROPERLY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I LIKE BEING CORRECTED, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M WRONG. SO THAT'S GOOD. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS BRIEFLY, I HOPE. ONE OF THEM IS THIS PAPER THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH. IT'S GOT 130 BUSINESSES FROM THE RAIL DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE STILL, JUST HAVEN'T BEEN CLARIFIED. FOR ME. WHETHER THE FACT THAT BUSINESSES HAVE GONE OUT OF BUSINESS, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE OUT OF BUSINESS, BASED UPON THE DECISION, AND WHETHER INTENTIONAL OR NOT, YOU JUST HAVE A RESULT. OOPS, THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR BEING BUSINESSES HERE, READY FOR 10, 15, 20 YEARS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN GOING OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. JUST IN TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND FRISCO, THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSMEN LOOKING AT THIS AND SAYING, HEY, IF THEY CAN DO THAT TO THEIR RAIL DISTRICT, MAYBE THEY CAN DO IT TO US. SO IT'S AN OPTIC THING, IF NOT A REAL THING, THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. SECOND THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS PROP 10 ON THE ELECTION. AND I THINK THE EXACT WORDING WAS TEXAS SHOULD PROHIBIT SHARIA LAW AND THE ISLAMIC LEGAL CODE IN TEXAS. 94.6% AGREED WITH THAT. AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING, WITH FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A LAW THING THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S FAIRLY INCONSISTENT WITH OUR LAWS IN TERMS OF THE CONSTITUTION. SO THE ANSWER IS, WHY WOULD THERE BE SUCH A HUGE 94% THING ON THAT? ONE COULD BE, IF WE LOOK AT THE HISTORY, GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS ASKED AS PRESIDENT, WHAT WAS YOUR TOUGHEST PART OF YOUR PRESIDENCY? AND HE SAID, ISLAM. AND THEN ADAMS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT JEFFERSON WAS IN ON THIS. HE SAID, WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT IS THE REAL DEAL? BECAUSE OVER IN THE BARBARY COAST OFF OF AFRICA, RIGHT WHERE LIBYA IS, OUR MERCHANT MARINES WERE BEING ATTACKED BY THE BARBARY PIRATES AND KILLED AND SOLD INTO SLAVERY. AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THEY GOT A MEETING TOGETHER IN LONDON, SAID, GUYS, WHAT IS GOING ON? WE'VE BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL. WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO US? AND THE RESPONSE FROM THE LEADERSHIP THERE WAS, IT'S SIMPLE. OUR BOOK SAYS, YOU'RE INFIDELS. THEREFORE, WE GET TO KILL YOU AND DO WHAT WE DO TO YOU. AND WHEN THE WORD GOT BACK TO JEFFERSON, HE BASICALLY SAID, JUST DEAL WITH IT. AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT THE LEATHERNECK, THE MARINES ARE CALLED LEATHERNECKS. AND THAT WAS TO PREVENT THE SWORD FROM THE OTHER SIDE. AND THEN, IN THE MARINE HYMN, IT SAYS, FROM THE HALLS OF MONTEZUMA TO THE SHORES OF TRIPOLI. THAT'S WHERE THIS TOOK PLACE. AND THEY GOT RID OF IT SO THAT OUR MERCHANT MARINE WOULD BE SAFE AND NO LONGER BE HARASSED. SO THERE SEEMS TO BE A DIFFERENCE. AND I APPRECIATED THE, WHO WAS IT, DISTINGUISHING. WE TREAT ALL RELIGIONS ALIKE. I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT ISLAM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? OH, OKAY. ISLAM SEEMS TO BE MORE A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY THAT DOES NOT WANT TO ADAPT AND CONTRIBUTE. BUT TAKE OVER AND DOMINATE. AND SO THERE IS A WONDERING WHY ALL THIS IS THERE, AND MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT QUOTE BEFORE, THAT SOME ONLY FOOLS SAY WE SHOULD NOT DISCUSS RELIGION AND POLITICS. WHY? BECAUSE THEN THIEVES KEEP THEIR POWER AND FALSE PROPHETS KEEP TEACHING. SO WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT REALLY IS HAPPENING, WHAT REALLY ARE THE BELIEFS. AND YOU LOOK AT LONDON, YOU LOOK AT NEW YORK CITY, YOU LOOK AT NEW JERSEY, YOU LOOK AT MICHIGAN, YOU LOOK AT [02:10:01] MINNESOTA, YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN CITIES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, BUT IT WON'T HAPPEN IN TEXAS. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER PEOPLE SAID, TOO. SO WHAT IS IT THAT'S HAPPENING? WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF SO WE CAN MAKE THE CORRECT STEPS, MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS SO WE DON'T GET TAKEN OVER BY THOSE WHO ARE NOT AMERICAN? THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE SEHAS KAUL, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE NEHA SUTRAN. HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS SEHAS KAUL, AND I'VE LIVED IN FRISCO FOR 22 YEARS. I WAS BORN AT TEXAS HEALTH PRESBYTERIAN IN PLANO, SO I'VE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. AND I FEEL LIKE, WITH A LOT OF THE RHETORIC BEING SAID ABOUT, PARTICULARLY INDIANS, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. BEING A FIRST-GENERATION AMERICAN, WITH MY PARENTS MIGRATING OVER IN, I THINK, 2000, IT'S REALLY SAD TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. THE FACT THAT I CAME TO THIS MEETING AND I SAW SOMEONE BRING OUT AN INDIAN FLAG, TALK IN AN INDIAN ACCENT, VERY SADDENING. AND THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S ASIDE FROM WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR WITH EVERYONE THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD BE APPLAUDING. THAT SORT OF BEHAVIOR, AND IT IS QUITE SADDENING SEEING THAT IN MY COMMUNITY, AND IT TRULY DOES MAKE ME VERY EMOTIONAL. BUT I FEEL LIKE A DIVIDE HAS BEEN CREATED AND THE ROOT CAUSE OF THAT IS MISINFORMATION. I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE PLAYERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO BRING THIS RHETORIC IN HERE. AND I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE AUDIENCE, THE PEOPLE THAT PRIMARILY MADE THE THE FALSE CLAIMS AGAINST INDIANS, THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN THIS ROOM ANYMORE. THEY'RE NOT HERE TO LISTEN. THEY'RE HERE TO JUST MAKE THEIR STATEMENT AND LEAVE. AND IT'S US, AS FRISCO, AS A COMMUNITY, CAN'T FALL INTO THAT. IT'S DANGEROUS. THIS MISINFORMATION CAUSES UNNECESSARY CONFLICTS, UNNECESSARY STIRRUPS, AND I FEEL LIKE IT JUST CAUSES DIVIDE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AND, I MEAN, I HAD SOME STATISTICS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT. I CAN SAY AS MUCH AS I WANT ABOUT H-1BS, ALL THIS, BUT, I MEAN WITH MY EXPERIENCE HERE, AS THE INDIAN POPULATION HAS GROWN, CRIME HAS GONE DOWN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE ECONOMIC GROWTH. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TALKING WITH CHIEF OF POLICE DAVID SHIELSON EARLIER TODAY, AND HE EVEN SAID MOST CITIES WITH FIRST CLASS POPULATION WOULD BE ENVIOUS OF OUR CRIME RATE AND OUR COMMUNITY. ANYONE THAT REALLY WANTS TO LEARN AND BE EDUCATED AND UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE THAT'S WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY, YOU CAN COME TO ME, TALK TO ME AFTERWARDS, AND I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS SORT OF INFORMATION IS ONLY SPREAD WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR OWN ECHO CHAMBER. WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR ECHO CHAMBER OF THOUGHTS AND WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, WITH ALL THESE THINGS AROUND US, WE JUST GET STUCK WITHIN OUR OWN THOUGHTS AND OUR OWN BELIEFS. AND THEY BECOME EXTREME. THE ONLY WAY WE CHANGE THAT IS THROUGH COMMUNICATION AND THROUGH COMING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU START THE TIME. I'LL JUST START THE TIME LIKE ON MY OWN SIDE, SO I CAN SEE HOW I'M DOING TIME WISE. YOU HAVE IT ON THERE. OH, OH MY GOD, IT STARTED. OKAY. HI, MY NAME IS NEHA SURATHRAN. I'VE LIVED IN TEXAS SINCE 2016, AND I'VE SIGNIFICANTLY WATCHED A DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE. SO TODAY HERE, I'M HERE ESSENTIALLY TO ADDRESS MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE INDIAN COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN STATED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE BLATANT RACISM THAT WAS DISPLAYED QUITE LITERALLY 20 MINUTES AGO, AND ALL OF THIS HAS SPREAD TO THE NEWS. TIMES OF INDIA IS WRITING ABOUT COUNCILMAN TUCKER AND HOW THIS, THAT SO CALLED ACTIVIST PAUL HAS BLATANTLY MADE RACIST CLAIMS TOWARDS HIM. BUT MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN AT PREVIOUS TOWN HALLS, THEY'VE USED THE WORD ALLEGED. ALLEGED FRAUD, ALLEGED ACTIVITY, ALLEGED CONCERNS. I WILL NOT BE USING THAT WORD TONIGHT. I'M NOT HERE TO SPECULATE. I'M HERE TO PRESENT FACTS. I'M HERE TO CITE REAL DATA, AND I AM HERE TO ADDRESS DIRECTLY THE MISINFORMATION SURROUNDING H-1B VISAS AND HARMFUL STEREOTYPES ABOUT THE INDIAN COMMUNITY IN FRISCO. TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS, THE TRUTH ABOUT H-1B VISAS AND THE REALITY OF THE INDIAN COMMUNITY IN OUR CITY. I SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH THE FRISCO CHIEF OF POLICE, DAVID SHILSON. SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT. THE FRISCO COUNCIL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR H1B [02:15:02] VISA FRAUD. THAT DIRECTLY GOES TO A FEDERAL BUREAU. COMPLAINING HERE, THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING TO THE COUNCIL IS TO SPREAD BLATANT HATE TOWARDS THE INDIAN COMMUNITY. BECAUSE THEY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE SEEING PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LOOK LIKE THEM. WHAT SAHAS HAD SAID EARLIER, FRISCO IS CONSISTENTLY RANKED ONE OF THE SAFEST CITIES IN AMERICA. NOT DESPITE ITS DIVERSITY, NOT DESPITE ITS INDIAN POPULATION, BUT ALONGSIDE IT. AND AS OF TODAY, THERE ARE NO VERIFIED REPORTS OF H-1B FRAUD IN FRISCO. IF THE WORD ALLEGED CONTINUES TO BE USED ONE MORE TIME, AT THIS POINT, I WOULD URGE CITIZENS TO ASSUME THAT IT IS FALSE. UNLESS YOU DO A QUICK RESEARCH ON GOOGLE. LOOK AT A, LIKE, FEDERAL BUREAU WEBSITE. THE STATISTICS, THE DATA, IT'S ALL THERE. CHIEF SHILSON ALSO SAID MISINFORMATION IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THREATS. TO OUR COUNTRY TODAY. IT CREATES DIVISIVENESS AND HOSTILITY AND DOES EVERYTHING BUT PROMOTE UNITY. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING. PEOPLE ARE FORMING STRONG OPINIONS BASED ON SOCIAL MEDIA CLIPS, GROUP CHATS, AND VIRAL POSTS. KELLY, FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY AT THIS MEETING MADE A CLAIM THAT HATE CRIMES WERE HAPPENING IN INDIA AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY. SHE REFERENCED THE CORNELL REPORT. UPON LOOKING AT THIS REPORT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN 200 CASES OF HATE CRIMES TOWARDS CHRISTIANS, BUT INDIA IS HOME TO 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE. RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF POPULATION, THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY MORE HATE CRIMES TOWARDS MUSLIMS AND JEWISH PEOPLE WITHIN INDIA. AMERICA. SO HATE CRIMES HAPPEN EVERYWHERE, BUT ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY HAPPENING IN THE U.S. DUE TO UNINFORMED RHETORIC SPREAD BY PEOPLE THAT DO NOT EDUCATE THEMSELVES. SO LET'S TALK FACTS. WHAT ABOUT AN H-1B VISA? YOU NEED TO HAVE A SPECIALIZED JOB OFFER, WORK IN TECH OR MEDICINE, HAVE AT LEAST A BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR HIGHER, BE SPONSORED BY A U.S. EMPLOYEE, AND ALSO, THE COMPANY HAS TO PROVE THAT YOU, THAT, THAT THAT. THEY'RE PAYING THE H-1B VISA HOLDER THE SAME, IF NOT HIGHER AMOUNT AS THEY WOULD A U.S. RESIDENT. THEY'RE NOT OUTSOURCING CHEAPER LABOR. AND IT'S NOT AN EASY SYSTEM TO ENTER. IT'S SELECTIVE, COMPETITIVE, AND REGULATED. AND THERE'S A REASON THAT THIS PROGRAM EXISTS. AROUND 70% OF AI AND MACHINE LEARNING GRADUATE STUDENTS IN THE U.S. ARE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. IN OVERALL STEM FIELDS, OVER 50. THAT MEANS THAT THE VERY PEOPLE BEING TRAINED IN OUR UNIVERSITIES IN THE MOST ADVANCED FIELDS ARE OFTEN NOT U.S. CITIZENS. WITHOUT PROGRAMS LIKE H-1B, WE ARE NOT PROTECTING JOBS, WE ARE PUSHING AWAY TALENT THAT OUR OWN SYSTEM HELPED CREATE. FOR EVERY ONE H-1B WORKER, APPROXIMATELY 1.8 ADDITIONAL JOBS ARE CREATED FOR U.S. WORKERS. SO THE IDEA THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE TAKING JOBS IS JUST NOT SUPPORTED BY THE DATA. REGIONS LIKE FRISCO, WITH HIGHER H-1B PARTICIPATION, HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO EXPERIENCE FASTER WAGE GROWTH FOR U.S.-BORN. WORKERS. NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE INDIAN COMMUNITY. ABOUT 75% OF AMERICANS HOLD A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, COMPARED TO 38%. THE MEDIUM. INCOME IS 150K, DOUBLE THE U.S. MEDIAN. WE ARE AMONG THE HIGHEST CONTRIBUTING GROUPS PER CAPITA TOWARDS TAXES. AND IF YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE CRIME DATA, 1.2% OF FRAUD ARRESTS, DESPITE BEING A LARGER SHARE OF THE POPULATION AT 6%. SO, STATISTICALLY, THE INDIAN COMMUNITY IS ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER EDUCATION, HIGHER INCOME, AND LOWER CRIME RATES. SO IF A GROUP IS ASSOCIATED WITH SAFER COMMUNITIES, STRONGER SCHOOLS, AND HIGHER ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTION, WHY ARE WE AFRAID? IF YOUR GOAL IS FOR YOUR CHILDREN TO GROW UP IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS. HIGH-PERFORMING SCHOOLS, STABLE COMMUNITIES, THEN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO FEAR. THIS IS SOMETHING TO WELCOME. AND LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT CULTURAL VISIBILITY. WE ALSO CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS. WE ARE NOT FORCING RELIGION ONTO YOU. HINDUISM DOES NOT CONVERT. WE BELIEVE EVERYBODY GOES TO HEAVEN, AS LONG AS YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON. CAN I TALK FOR A LITTLE MORE, IF POSSIBLE? SORRY, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY, BUT THANK YOU. WE HAVE HARLAN PAPERT AND THEN, FINALLY, WE HAVE DONNA SCHMITTLER. WELL, HI, HONESTLY, AFTER ALL OF THIS AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING YOUR TIME AND WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY RIGHT NOW. I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN SOME YEARS. I THINK THE LAST TIME I TALKED, IT WAS LIKE, ABOUT FRISCO ARTS, LIKE, WHATEVER BEFORE COVID. JUST HAVING EXPERIENCED THIS, I FEEL LIKE I'M SEEING DEMOCRACY IN ACTION, BUT I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. I'M LOOKING AT THE MAKEUP OF THIS BOARD HERE, RIGHT, OF THIS COUNCIL. WE HAVE REPRESENTATION OF DIFFERENT CULTURES AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. SO WHEN I HEAR THESE OUTSIDERS COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT FRISCO, I FIND THAT. TERRIBLY ANNOYING AND TERRIBLY FRUSTRATING, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL HAVE TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN [02:20:01] TO THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT. WHATEVER IS GOING ON, WHATEVER THAT IS, IF IT'S A PROBLEM, IT'S NOT A FRISCO PROBLEM, IT'S NOT A CITY COUNCIL PROBLEM, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THOUGH, BECAUSE INITIALLY I CAME HERE BECAUSE I THINK I GOT A LITTLE BIT BLINDSIDED, AND I THINK SOME OF US WERE BLINDSIDED. ABOUT THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHAT USED TO BE BECKY'S HORSE RESCUE. SO I THINK A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE RATHER UPSET ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, AND I THANK BRIAN LIVINGSTON AND JEFF CHENEY FOR SPEAKING TO ME ABOUT IT WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT I ALSO FEEL UNINFORMED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY FOR CITY TO INFORM THE RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED ABOUT SOME TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL IMPACT THEIR BACKYARDS. SO I THINK THAT THAT MEASURE WAS A LITTLE BIT RUSHED. I KNOW THAT WAS ALREADY SOMETHING DISCUSSED. I HEARD THAT 25 OR 30 PEOPLE CAME OUT. I'VE ALSO FOUND OUT JUST YESTERDAY THAT THERE WAS A PETITION THAT WENT AROUND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPACT THAT HAD, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT AND HOW MYSELF AND OTHERS COULD BE MORE INFORMED, BECAUSE I ASKED A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS, AND MY NEIGHBOR SHOWED UP, AND I HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBOR. THEY HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS INDUSTRIAL PARK GOING ON IN OUR BACKYARD, AND I KNOW IT'S UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE. THE OTHER PART TO THAT IS THE IMPACT ENVIRONMENTALLY, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH. I LIVE IN PRESTMONT, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 95, 96. I MOVED THERE IN 2012. AND WHEN I MOVED TO FRISCO IN 2012, IT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT CITY, RIGHT? THE EXIT FROM PRESTMONT GOES OUT TO PRESTMONT AND OHIO. WHERE WE HAVE ALL THAT NEW, WELL, IT'S NOT NEW ANYMORE. THERE WAS NOTHING THERE MANY YEARS AGO. NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STORES AND RETAIL AND APARTMENTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. AND YEARS AGO, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE TRAFFIC CONTROLS PUT IN PLACE. AND ONE ROUNDABOUT WAS BUILT AT WARREN AND OHIO. BUT WE ALSO HAVE, I THINK, AND I'M SURE THE POLICE CAN LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF SAFETY PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD, BUT... AT GAYLORD AND OHIO, WE HAVE THIS IMMENSE INTERSECTION, AND WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS GOING TO BE A ROUNDABOUT PUT THERE TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC. IT NEVER HAPPENED. WE WERE ALSO TOLD THAT POTENTIALLY SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BE PUT AT PRESMONT, BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. OFTENTIMES, THERE'S A POLICE CAR POSTED THERE BECAUSE OF THE DANGER. PERSONALLY, I USED TO WALK MY DOG THROUGH THERE, AND I CAN TELL YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I HAD TO LEAP OUT OF THE WAY WITH MY DOG. BECAUSE I ALMOST GOT HIT BY A CAR. MY NEIGHBOR GOT HIT BY A CAR THERE. HE GOT T-BONED RIGHT THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO ALSO ASK THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL THERE, BECAUSE I THINK WITH THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK ALSO GOING IN, WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL ARE DOING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WILL ADD REALLY Y QUICKLY, THE DEVELOPER OF THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DOING ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD TOWN HALL. I KNOW LAURA ROMEL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO COORDINATE THAT. I THINK IT'S AFTER SPRING BREAK FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROJECTS, AND THEY'RE ALSO OFFERING TO HAVE RESIDENTS COME SEE ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS TO UNDERSTAND IT. SO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, WE CAN. WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU. THANK YOU. AND JASON, WOULD YOU MIND GRABBING THEM AFTERWARDS, TOO, TO GIVE THEM A STATUS ON THE ROUNDABOUT? YEAH, I THINK IT'S IN DESIGN. DONNA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DONNA SCHMITTLER, 7037, WHITE ROCK COURT, FRISCO, TEXAS. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE HERITAGE ASSOCIATION OF FRISCO. WE ARE HAVING, ON MARCH 31ST, WE ARE HAVING A LECTURE AND A MEETING AT... AT THE HERITAGE DEPOT, AND IT [02:25:02] WILL FEATURE THE 1903 ALAN BICKERSTAFF HOUSE. THAT THE NEW OWNERS, THE PETRUSKAS, HAVE SPENT TWO YEARS AND MUCH BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS, AND SOME DOLLARS RESTORING THE HOUSE. SO IT'S OPEN TO EVERYBODY. WE'D LOVE YOU TO COME AND SEE IT. AND SHE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK, WHICH WILL BE FEATURED THAT NIGHT AS WELL. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON FRISCO 125. WHICH IS COMING UP IN 2027, AND SOME OF YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM MANY PEOPLE. WE HAVE HIRED SOME WRITERS AND SOME AUTHORS TO HELP WITH THAT. SO IF YOU GET A CALL FROM US, IT'S NOT A SPAM CALL. WE REALLY WANT YOUR INPUT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT WHAT YOU DO. I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD ONCE AND IT'S NOT AN EASY THING. SO IT COMPELS IN COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE UP TO. BUT I APPRECIATE FRISCO AND LIKE I SAID ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. I CAME TO FRISCO FOR A NEW LIFE, AND FRISCO HAS [City Council discussion with City Staff concerning any actions required by City Staff as a result of any item on tonight's agenda.] GIVEN ME A GOOD ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DONNA. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 30 IS CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF [Discussion on Governance Monitoring of present City Council Meeting.] CONCERNING ANY ACTIONS REQUIRED BY STAFF. WE HAD THE TABLED ITEM THAT WILL COME BACK. ITEM 31 IS GOVERNANCE MONITORING, WHICH I HAD THIS EVENING. AND SO COUNCIL HAD GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE ONE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. CITIZEN INPUT. SO I GAVE US TONIGHT. WITH THAT, I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOTION BY BURT, SECOND BY AND ALL IN FAVOR THAT PASSES 6-0. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 856. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.