[00:00:01] >> WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING OF CITY HALL. [CALL TO ORDER] WE ARE AT FRISCO CITY HALL, THE GEORGE A. PET FOR MUNICIPAL CENTER IN COUNCIL CHAMBER, 60101 FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD IN FRISCO, TEXAS. IT IS 7:00 PM ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2025, AND I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE'RE JOINED BY A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. I THINK WE'RE JUST WAITING ON MR. ELLAD. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME. >> >> THAT WILL NOW [Presentation on the proposed public/private partnership for a new animal facility and a summary of public input gathered to date.] MOVE US INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 2 IS A PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR A NEW ANIMAL FACILITY AND A SUMMARY OF PUBLIC INPUT GATHERED TO DATE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, DAVID SHILSON, CHIEF OF POLICE. I'M GOING TO START WITH THIS IS A RECAP OF SOME THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE NEW MATERIAL, BUT JUST WANTED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC TO GIVE A RECAP OF WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE WE ARE. WE'LL DO THAT OVERVIEW. THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM NICOLE, OUR PARTNER OPERATOR. THEN, KEN WILL DO SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, CONSOLIDATE THOSE INTO SOME THEMES AND TRYING TO ANSWER AS MANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO CITIZEN INPUT. I'LL START WITH, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, THIS APPROACH TO THIS FACILITY IS REALLY DATA DRIVEN. WE LOOKED AT THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES NUMBERS FROM WHAT ACTUALLY WAS LANDING IN CCAS FROM FRISCO. WHAT WE FOUND WAS 11 PERCENT OF THE ANIMALS IN CCAS ARE REPRESENTED BY THE CITY OF FRISCO. THEN LOOKING AT HOW LONG DID IT TAKE OWNERS TO REDEEM THEIR ANIMALS ONCE THEY ENDED UP AT CCAS, AND REALLY THE AVERAGE FOR DOGS WAS FOUR DAYS, THREE DAYS FOR CATS. THEN FOR TRANSFER TO RESCUE ORGANIZATION, ABOUT EIGHT DAYS, AND THEN TO BE ADOPTED AN AVERAGE OF 15 DAYS. WE LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS AND REALLY, WHEN WE STARTED CONSIDERING THIS FACILITY WAS REALLY THOSE NUMBERS IN MIND AS WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE NEEDED OUT OF THIS PROPOSED FACILITY. WHAT IS THE INTENT AND THE GOALS OF THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING? REALLY, WE HAVE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH A FRISCO RESIDENT THAT HAS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERTISE THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN MOST COMMUNITIES. WE ALSO LISTENED TO A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK FROM ANIMAL ADVOCATES, WHAT WAS IT THAT THEY WOULD WANT FROM AN ANIMAL FACILITY? REALLY WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH IS A FACILITY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT PROVIDES A LOT MORE CONVENIENCE TO RESIDENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD QUITE FREQUENTLY WAS THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY OVER TO MCKINNEY IF THEY HAD TO REDEEM THEIR ANIMALS. THIS FACILITY OBVIOUSLY GIVES THEM A MUCH MORE CONVENIENT OPTIONS. THEN REALLY JUST WE WANTED TO USE THE DATA FROM CCAS THAT I JUST PRESENTED REALLY TO PROVIDE A SPACE WHERE WE HAD AN ABILITY TO HOUSE THOSE ANIMALS FOR A MINIMUM OF FIVE DAYS. THEN, MAYBE POTENTIALLY LONGER IF THE FACILITY CAPACITY ALLOWS. THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED WAS A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO PEOPLE. EDUCATION, TRAINING, PUBLIC EVENTS, MICROCHIPPING EVENTS, ADOPTION EVENTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. REALLY, THE WHOLE GOAL OF THIS FACILITY IS TO KEEP ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT INNOVATIVE, IS REALLY TAKING THE APPROACH OF WE FEEL LIKE WHAT'S BEST FOR ANIMALS IS TO NOT BE IN A SHELTER AT ALL SO WE WANT TO GET THEM BACK HOME. WE WANT TO ROUTE PEOPLE TO MAYBE FOSTERS OR RESCUES. WE WANT TO PROVIDE EDUCATION THAT MIGHT PREVENT SURRENDERS. [00:05:05] WE WANT TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITH THE WHOLE GOAL IN MIND OF KEEPING ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER IN THE FIRST PLACE. NICOLE KOHANSKI IS OUR PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THIS BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AND TALK ABOUT HER CREDENTIALS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL HIGHLIGHT IS NICOLE IS A 20 PLUS YEAR FRISCO RESIDENT. WHEN YOU GO LOOKING FOR PARTNERS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT BETTER OPTION THAN SOMEONE THAT IS INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME ANIMAL ADVOCATE WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY. SHE HAS A PERSONAL STAKE IN MAKING THIS A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH THIS LEVEL OF EXPERTISE, AND SHE'LL GO INTO THAT WHEN SHE PRESENTS, BUT THIS IS VERY UNIQUE TO THIS PARTNERSHIP. SHE'S ALSO VERY WELL NETWORKED WITHIN THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY, NOT JUST HERE IN FRISCO, BUT ACROSS THE METROPLEX, GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH SEVERAL FOSTERS AND RESCUES, WHICH IS A HUGE BENEFIT AS WELL. THE PROPOSED TENANT VETERINARY PARTNER IS DR. SCHILLER, A VERY WELL CREDENTIALED VETERINARIAN. SHE WILL BE HERE WORKING WITH NICOLE AS PART OF THE VETERINARY COMPONENT TO THIS FACILITY. AS WE EXPLORED WHO WOULD WE PARTNER WITH AND HOW WOULD WE MAKE THIS PARTNERSHIP WORK, WE WERE VERY PUBLIC ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE SEEKING A PARTNER. OUR DISCUSSIONS VERY PUBLICLY WENT ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE TALKED TO FOUR SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS WHICH ARE INCLUDED UP HERE ON THIS SLIDE. FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THESE ORGANIZATIONS DIDN'T HAVE EITHER THE RESOURCES NOR THE ABILITY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AS A VIABLE PARTNER TO MAKE THIS FACILITY WORK. WE FOLLOWED WHAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD AS A CITY, IN OUR APPROACH TO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BY HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND THEN EVENTUALLY LANDING ON NICOLE. WHAT IS THE PARTNERSHIP MODEL? THE CITY WOULD FUND, DESIGN, CONSTRUCT, AND LEASE THE FACILITY TO THE OPERATOR PARTNER IN EXCHANGE FOR THE OPERATOR PARTNER PROVIDING THE CITY SERVICES. SHE'S GOING TO OPERATE A PRIVATE BUSINESS OUT OF THAT FACILITY. SHE WILL PAY RENT TO THE CITY, AND THEN SHE WILL ASSUME THE OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS OF THE FACILITY, AS WELL. WHAT WILL THE CITY RECEIVE AND WHAT WILL THE PRIVATE PARTNER BE DOING IN OF THE FACILITY? I MENTIONED, THERE'S THIS HOLD TIME FOR THE ANIMALS THAT ARE COLLECTED BY FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES. THERE'S QUARANTINE AREAS. THERE'S FACILITATION PROCESS. WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DIVISION UNIT OF GETTING ANIMALS BACK TO THEIR OWNERS, AND THIS WILL CERTAINLY ENHANCE THAT THROUGH HAVING THIS FACILITY HERE LOCALLY. HOSTING ADOPTION EVENTS, AND THEN FACILITATION TO MOVE ANIMALS TO RESCUE AND FOSTER FACILITIES. REALLY, I SAID, THE WHOLE DESIGN HERE, THE WHOLE THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO KEEP ANIMALS OUT OF SHELTERS ALTOGETHER. OUR OPERATOR ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TRANSFER TO THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER SO THAT OUR ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANIMALS OVER THERE TO CCAS. THAT'S A HUGE OPERATIONAL BURDEN LIFTED OFF OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES TEAM. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE PROVIDED AS WELL. I MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY EDUCATION, TRAINING, THE RESOURCES, VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NICOLE HAS STATED THAT WILL BE A COMPONENT IN THIS, AND THEN A PET PANTRY. I KNOW AS BUDGETS GET TIGHT CERTAINLY THE COST OF HAVING AN ANIMAL IS A REASON THAT SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO SURRENDER THEIR ANIMAL. THERE'LL BE A PET PANTRY AVAILABLE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR VOLUNTEERS AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED, DR. SCHILLER IS GOING TO BE THE RESIDENT VET FOR THIS FACILITY. NOT ONLY WILL SHE BE PROVIDING CARE TO THE ANIMALS THAT ARE BROUGHT IN BY ANIMAL SERVICES, BUT SHE WILL BE PROVIDING CARE TO OUR WORKING DOGS THAT WE HAVE AT THE PD AS WELL. THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE PARTNER WILL TAKE CARE OF THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. [00:10:05] WHAT WILL NICOLE GET? SHE WILL BE OPERATING PET BOARDING, DAYCARE AND GROOMING SERVICES, DOG TRAINING, AND THEN THE FULL SERVICE VET CLINIC THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. HERE'S THE SITE. IT'S UP THERE OFF A PGA PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE. IT'S A LITTLE OVER FOUR ACRE SITE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY. THAT'S JUST AN AERIAL SNAPSHOT OF IT. THIS IS A LAYOUT OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN THE PARKING SITUATION. I WANT TO STRESS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS. THIS IS THE CONCEPT DESIGN. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DESIGN. REALLY, WHAT THIS ILLUSTRATES IS SPACE ALLOCATIONS FOR PURPOSES OF THE FACILITY AND A PROPOSED LAYOUT. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DESIGN. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE WORKED THROUGH WITH AN EXPERT IN THE DESIGN OF ANIMAL FACILITIES AND AN ARCHITECT BEFORE WE HAVE REACHED THE POINT OF FINAL DESIGN. THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS JUST TO PRESENT THE CONCEPT, AND THEN THE SPACE ALLOCATIONS FOR THE FACILITY. THIS IS MORE JUST PROPOSED SPACE ALLOCATIONS AND WHAT THE ELEMENTS OF THE FACILITY WILL BE. THEY'RE COLOR-CODED THERE WITH THE RED ILLUSTRATING WHAT FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES WILL BE UTILIZING. THOSE ARE QUARANTINE KENNELS, THE SALLY PORT, INTAKE AREAS, VIEWING SPACES, AND THEN GENERAL KENNELS WITH OUTDOOR RUNS. THE YELLOW AREAS INDICATE THE PRIVATE BUSINESS. A PRIVATE OPERATOR PARTNER WILL BE UTILIZING FOR DAYCARE, BOARDING, GROOMING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THE GREEN REPRESENTS WHAT THE VET COMPONENT WILL BE. THOSE ARE ALL THE NEEDED AREAS FOR THE VETS OFFICE. THEN THE GRAY SPACES ARE COMMON AREAS. ONCE AGAIN, REALLY, JUST A GENERAL CONCEPT OF THE SPACE ALLOCATION IS NOT A FINAL DESIGN. THIS IS THE SECOND LEVEL. THIS ILLUSTRATES WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE SECOND LEVEL, THE RED AREAS, ONCE AGAIN, FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY THAT TRAINING COMPONENT, THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY AT THE FACILITY, NOT JUST ANIMAL SERVICES, IT'LL BE UTILIZED BY THE PARTNER AS WELL. BUT THAT'S THE SPACE THAT WE THINK THAT WILL BE VERY WELL UTILIZED FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT EDUCATION AND TRAINING EVENTS THAT WE'LL HAVE THERE. THEN THERE'S SPACES FOR OFFICES UPSTAIRS AND CONFERENCE ROOMS. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE VET CLINIC, THERE IS A 24-HOUR DORMITORY THERE FOR THE VET TO BE ONSITE. HERE'S THE ESTIMATED DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATING COSTS. YOU SEE THE HARD COST FOR THE BUILDING SITE, ALONG WITH THE CONTINGENCY, THE FF&E COST THERE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE VETERINARY EQUIPMENT FOR A TOTAL COST OF $12.8 MILLION FOR THE PROPOSED FACILITY. WE ESTIMATE THE MONTHLY OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS AT ABOUT $12,000 PER MONTH. WHAT DOES THE PARTNERSHIP LOOK LIKE FOR THE COST OF THE FACILITY FUNDED BY THE CDC AS THE 12.8 MILLION? THERE'S A 20-YEAR LAND AND FACILITY LEASE. THIS RECOVERS THE COSTS OF THE PRIVATE BUSINESS SPACE AT APPROXIMATELY $7.7 MILLION. THEN THE OPERATOR PARTNER PAYS THE CITY A BASE RENT OF $32,000 A MONTH THAT WILL GO UP IT'LL INCREASE 15 PERCENT OF THE NET PROFIT AFTER YEAR 1. THEN, OF COURSE, THE $12,000 ESTIMATED OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE FACILITY AS WELL. THIS IS THE BASE RENT CREDIT MODEL. AS SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE CITY INCREASE, THERE ARE RENT CREDITS APPLIED TO THAT. UP TO 100 PERCENT OF THE BASE RENT COULD BE PAID AS A SERVICE IN LIEU OF A CASH PAYMENT. REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THE SERVICES ARE VALUE TO THE CITY AND HOW MUCH RENT CREDIT IS APPLIED FOR PURPOSES OF THIS. WHY IS THIS A GOOD SERVICE MODEL AND PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF FRISCO? ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE BEEN ASKED IS, WHY NOT A FULL SHELTER? WHAT MAKES THIS BETTER THAN A FULL SHELTER? [00:15:02] AS I MENTIONED, I THINK AS SOMEONE WHO WOULD ADVOCATE FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR ANIMALS AS YOU WANT TO KEEP ANIMALS OUT OF A SHELTER. THE OTHER THING WE KNOW FROM SHELTER OPERATIONS IN MANY OTHER CITIES IS THEY'RE EXTREMELY HIGH COSTS, THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY STAFFING THEM. THERE'S HIGH TURNOVER AMONGST THE STAFF BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT SHELTERS. >> THERE'S DISEASE ISSUES AT SHELTERS. ALMOST EVERY SHELTER IN EXISTENCE WILL GO THROUGH SOME CHALLENGE WITH DISEASE AND OUTBREAK. THEN THERE'S REALLY JUST THE TREATMENT OF THE ANIMALS. THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF CITY-RUN SHELTERS THAT HAVE REALLY STRUGGLED WITH HOW HUMANELY THE ANIMALS ARE TREATED. THESE ARE ALL RISK WHEN OPERATING A CITY SHELTER. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING THAT IS INNOVATIVE, HUMANE, REALLY FOCUSES ON THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY BASED ON DATA, AND IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO OUR TAXPAYER AS WELL. HOW IS IT INNOVATIVE? WELL, I THINK FIRST THING IS WE ARE VERY LUCKY AS A CITY TO HAVE A PARTNER LIKE NICOLE. SHE'S VERY EXPERIENCED AND HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE, VERY WELL CREDENTIALED AS FAR AS HER KNOWLEDGE OF ANIMALS, NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT REALMS. WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT EXPERIENCE WITH THIS OPERATOR PARTNER. THE EMBEDDED VET CARE. NOW, SHELTERS MIGHT HAVE VET CARE, BUT THE EMBEDDED VET CARE IN THIS FACILITY, IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR NORMAL VETERINARY SERVICES. OBVIOUSLY, HAVING THAT VET COMPONENT THERE THAT'S OPERATING AS A BUSINESS AND TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE BRING IN IS CERTAINLY A QUICKER AND FASTER VET CARE OPTION THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE. NICOLE IS EXTREMELY NETWORKED WITH RESCUE AND FOSTER GROUPS, SO CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN MANY OTHER CITIES. THEN, I THINK I MENTIONED IN A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, HAVING THE PUBLIC COME INTO THIS FACILITY FOR WHETHER IT'S TRAINING, BOARDING, VET SERVICES FOR THEIR OWN ANIMALS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO POTENTIALLY, BE ABLE TO ADOPT ANOTHER ANIMAL. IF THEY HAVE INTEREST IN ADOPTING ANOTHER ANIMAL. IT'S ACTUALLY GENERATING TRAFFIC TO HELP YOU EXPOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY PET OWNERS, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ADOPTING ANOTHER ANIMAL, WHICH CERTAINLY IS UNIQUE. HOW IS IT HUMANE? WELL, CERTAINLY, WHAT WE KNOW IS, IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. WE'LL DO THAT THROUGH DESIGN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN LOOKING AT VARIOUS FACILITIES, ACROSS THE METROPLEX, AND WE'VE HEARD, FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT OPERATE THOSE FACILITIES, IS CERTAINLY NOISE LEVEL IS A BIG ISSUE WITH ANIMAL FACILITIES. IF IT'S QUIETER, IT'S BETTER FOR THE ANIMALS. I MENTIONED, WE HAVE EMBEDDED VET CARE THERE. WE ALSO HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT RUN THESE FACILITIES AT THE SMALLER, QUIETER FACILITIES TYPICALLY HAVE HIGHER ADOPTION RATES. PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO A PLACE THAT'S QUIETER, THE ANIMALS SEEM, OBVIOUSLY, IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THEIR BEHAVIOR. THERE'S GOING TO BE BIGGER SPACES IN SOME OF THESE KENNELS. IT REALLY IS A MUCH MORE HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR THE ANIMALS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. HOW IS IT COMMUNITY FOCUS? WELL, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR PART IN TRYING TO KEEP ANIMALS OUT OF A SHELTER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HAVE REGULAR ADOPTION EVENTS. WE CAN HAVE SPAY AND NEUTER CLINICS. WE CAN DO OPERATIONS FOR VACCINATING ANIMALS, MICROCHIPPING EVENTS. TRAINING IS A BIG THING THAT NICOLE BRINGS, SHE'S AN EXPERT IN THAT. ANIMAL BEHAVIOR IS ONE OF THE LEADING REASONS WHY PEOPLE SURRENDER THEIR ANIMALS. IF SHE CAN BE A RESOURCE TO PEOPLE IN THAT REALM, IT PREVENTS ANIMALS FROM GOING TO THE SHELTER, POTENTIALLY. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN OFFER TO OUR RESIDENTS HERE. THEN CERTAINLY THERE'S ALL KINDS OF POTENTIAL WITH THIS FACILITY FOR VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS. I MENTIONED THE PET PANTRY. THERE'S GOING TO BE ALL THESE EVENTS THAT PEOPLE CAN VOLUNTEER AT. WE CAN PROMOTE FOSTERING, WHICH ONCE AGAIN EXPANDS THE NETWORK OF PEOPLE THAT ARE [00:20:01] WILLING TO MAYBE TAKE AN ANIMAL FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, OR SOME PERIOD OF TIME IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM OUT OF A SHELTER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, POTENTIALLY, UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS, THIS SITE IS RIGHT NEAR THEIR CAMPUS HERE IN FRISCO. THEY HAVE A PRE-VET PROGRAM. THERE ARE CERTAINLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR A LOT OF COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH THIS FACILITY. HOW IS IT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE? WELL, THE REVENUE FROM THE PRIVATE BUSINESS AND THE SERVICES IN LIEU OF CASH RENT PAYMENT, THEY SUPPORT THE PARTNER AND BEING ABLE TO OPERATE HAVING TO STAFF, AND THE FACILITY AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY, WHICH IS VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE TAXPAYER. THIS JUST GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, A CURRENT ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, THEN WHAT WE PAID TO THE COLLIN COUNTY SHELTER, AND THEN THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, THE STAFF COMPENSATION, ALL THOSE THINGS. THERE IN YOUR LEFT COLUMN. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THERE IS IN THE MIDDLE. IT REQUIRES NO ADDITIONAL STAFFING, THE $12.8 MILLION COSTS FOR THE FACILITY. WE STILL WILL HAVE THE COLLIN COUNTY SHELTER FEE BECAUSE WE WILL NEED THEM AS A BACKUP OPTION. THEN THE COST OF THE SERVICES THAT WE GET TO THE CITY ARE RECOVERED THROUGH THE OPERATOR RENT CREDITS. THEN, ON THE RIGHT, WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM A TRADITIONAL SHELTER MODEL. YOU SEE A CITY HERE IN COLLIN COUNTY THAT OPERATES A SHELTER. THEY HAVE 18 FULL-TIME STAFF AND FIVE PART-TIME STAFF, WHICH IS MORE THAN TWICE WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. THEIR COST FOR BUILDING A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY WAS $11.5 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INCLUDES THE LAND COST, BUT CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE THERE. THEN YOU SEE THE REGULAR OPERATION, MAINTENANCE, PERSONNEL COSTS THAT YOU'LL HAVE FOR EVERY SUBSEQUENT YEAR AS WELL. IN CONCLUSION, REALLY JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE CAME UP WITH THIS MODEL, WE FEEL IT'S AN INNOVATIVE MODEL. WE FEEL LIKE IT LEVERAGES THE EXPERTISE OF OUR OPERATOR PARTNER. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S THE MOST HUMANE THING FOR ANIMALS. THEN, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PARTNERSHIPS. I FEEL LIKE MOST CITIES, IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS, WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO PURSUE A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS, BASED ON WHAT NICOLE BRINGS TO THE TABLE. WITH THAT, I WANT TO GIVE NICOLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AND TALK THROUGH HER EXPERTISE. I'LL WELCOME HER UP. >> HI, EVERYBODY. I'M STARTING WITH A THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR MONDAY NIGHT WITH ME. THANK YOU FOR CARING. THANK YOU FOR CARING ABOUT THE CITY, THE PEOPLE IN IT, AND ABOUT THE ANIMALS WHO SHARE OUR LIVES, OUR STREETS, AND TOO OFTEN OUR SHELTERS. TONIGHT, TOOK A NIGHT ABOUT QUESTIONS AND ABOUT GIVING FEEDBACK TO THE PUBLIC. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY FIRST QUESTION THAT I GET ASKED MOST FREQUENTLY, AND THAT'S WHY. I'VE BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES WHY I'M INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT. I WANT TO ANSWER THIS WITH A STORY. THIS IS A DEEPLY PERSONAL STORY, NOT THE KIND OF STORY THAT MAKES HEADLINES, BUT ONE THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR ME AND MY FAMILY. THIS IS MY WHY. SOME YEARS AGO, MY FAMILY EXPERIENCED A SEASON OF LOSS. WE LOST THREE PARENTS, THREE GRANDPARENTS, AND THREE OTHER CLOSE RELATIVES IN A REALLY SHORT TIME FRAME. THAT TIME THAT FOLLOWED WAS ONE OF SILENCE AND GRIEF. OUR LAUGHTER WAS GONE. WE WERE SURVIVING, BUT WE WEREN'T TRULY LIVING. THEN A RESCUE DOG NAMED CHEWY CAME INTO OUR LIVES. HE IS MY WHY. A DOG WITH A BIG HEART AND WILL BUT, YES, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE NAME OF THE COMPANY. HE DIDN'T ERASE OUR GRIEF, BUT HE NUDGED US OUTSIDE AND REMINDED US WHAT JOY FELT LIKE. HE ASKED FOR NOTHING AND GAVE US HEALING IN RETURN. CHEWY DIDN'T JUST CHANGE OUR FAMILY. HE RESTORED IT. THAT'S WHAT ANIMALS DO. THAT IS WHO THEY ARE. THEY'RE NOT JUST PETS. THEY'RE NOT PROPERTY. THEY'RE NOT NUMBERS ON A KENNEL TAG. [00:25:01] THEY ARE COMPANIONS, AND THEY ARE FAMILY. WE OWE IT TO THEM, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, TO DO BETTER. TODAY, I'M PROUD TO SPEAK AS PART OF A VISIONARY PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FRISCO. ONE THAT'S GROUNDED IN THIS SINGLE POWERFUL BELIEF. WE CAN DO BETTER FOR THE ANIMALS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM. THIS IS ALSO PART OF MY WHY. THAT BELIEF IS NOT CRITICISM, IT'S A CALL. IT'S A RECOGNITION THAT INNOVATION, AND LEADERSHIP CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE SHELTERING SYSTEMS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. I KNOW WHEN MANY PEOPLE ASKED THE QUESTION, WHY ME. WHY WAS I CHOSEN INSTEAD OF SOMEONE WHO HAS RUN A SHELTER BEFORE? REMEMBER, THE CALL TO ACTION FROM THE CITY WAS NOT FOR A SHELTER. IT WAS FOR A NEXT-GENERATION ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY. SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WHY AM I THE RIGHT CHOICE? I BELIEVE I'M THE RIGHT CHOICE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THE TRENCHES. I'VE TRAINED, I'VE STUDIED, VOLUNTEERED, I'VE FOSTERED, AND I'VE COMMITTED MY LIFE TO BRINGING COMPASSIONATE, SCIENCE-BASED CARE TO ANIMALS AND THE FAMILIES WHO LOVE THEM. I BRING BOTH BUSINESS ACUMEN, AND INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE TO THE PARTNERSHIP. LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH MY CREDENTIALS AND QUALIFICATIONS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BORING, BUT PLEASE BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW WHO I AM. LET'S START WITH MY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION. I HAVE AN MBA FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS, AND I GRADUATED SALUTATORIAN SUMMA CUM LAUDE. I WAS ALSO HONORED TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY MY PEERS FOR THE CLASSES LEADERSHIP AWARD. MY UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE IS IN MANAGEMENT AND ETHICS, AND I'M A CERTIFIED PROJECT MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL AND A LEVEL 1 CHARTERED FINANCIAL ANALYST. I'VE SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS BUILDING WIGGLE BUTT ACADEMY AND DOGGIE ZEN DEN. PRIOR TO THAT, I SPENT 10 YEARS AS A CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, AND BEFORE MY COO ROLES, I SPENT 10 YEARS IN CORPORATE VICE PRESIDENT ROLES. IN THE TWO DECADES I SPENT IN LEADERSHIP ROLES. I BUILT OPERATIONS, I MANAGED TEAMS, AND I SOLVED COMPLEX PROBLEMS. I KNOW HOW TO SCALE WITH QUALITY AND INNOVATION, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS PARTNERSHIP REQUIRES. MY EDUCATION AND MY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE AREN'T ENOUGH FOR THIS ROLE. THIS ROLE REQUIRES HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE, AND INDUSTRY-SPECIFIC EDUCATION. AS A FOUNDER OF WIGGLE BUTT ACADEMY, I HOLD CREDENTIALS AND CERTIFICATIONS THAT REFLECT A DEEP DEDICATION TO THIS WORK. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO READ THAT, I'M SUPER SORRY. I'M GOING TO START WITH MY CTC, WHICH IS A CERTIFICATE IN TRAINING AND COUNSELING FROM THE ACADEMY FOR DOG TRAINERS. THIS IS A TWO-YEAR PROGRAM THAT I GRADUATED FROM WITH HONORS. IT'S KNOWN FOR BEING THE MOST RIGOROUS PROGRAM IN THE PROFESSION, AND THERE'S 600 OF US GLOBALLY. I ALSO HAVE A DIPLOMA IN CANINE BEHAVIOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY FROM THE COMPANION ANIMAL SCIENCES INSTITUTE. THERE ARE 125 OF US GLOBALLY. I'M A LICENSED FAMILY PAWS PARENT EDUCATOR, WHICH IS A GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED PROGRAM, FOR FAMILIES THAT HAVE INFANTS AND TODDLERS WITH DOGS. THERE ARE 600 OF US GLOBALLY. I'M A LICENSED FAMILY DOG MEDIATOR, THIS IS AN APPLIED ETHOLOGY PROGRAM WITH 2,500 PROFESSIONALS GLOBALLY, WHICH I AM ONE OF 125 OF THESE IN THE WORLD THAT IS LICENSED. I'M A CERTIFIED BEHAVIOR ADJUSTMENT TRAINING INSTRUCTOR, AND THERE'S 150 OF US GLOBALLY. I HAVE EARNED PRESTIGIOUS FEAR FREE ELITE STATUS, WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY THE TOP 3% OF ALL BEAR-FREE PRACTITIONERS IN THE WORLD, INCLUDING VETERINARIANS. THERE'S MORE. I'M A CERTIFIED BEHAVIOR CONSULTANT FROM IWABC, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ANIMAL BEHAVIOR CONSULTANTS. THERE'S 650 OF US GLOBALLY. I'M A CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER AND A CERTIFIED BEHAVIOR CONSULTANT FROM THE CERTIFICATION COUNCIL OF PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINERS, OF WHICH THERE ARE 5,300 GLOBALLY, AND 560 OF US GLOBALLY FOR THOSE TWO RESPECTIVE PROGRAMS. I'M A CERTIFIED SEPARATION ANXIETY TRAINER. I'M A FEAR-FREE SHELTERS GRADUATE. I AM HUMAN ANIMAL BOND CERTIFIED THROUGH THE NORTH AMERICAN VETERINARY COMMUNITY. I'M A CERTIFIED PET NUTRITION COACH THROUGH NABC. I'M AN AKC GOOD CITIZEN EVALUATOR. I'M A GRADUATE OF THE FORENSICS OF AGGRESSION MENTORSHIP THROUGH IBC. I'M AN ASSOCIATE NOSE WORK INSTRUCTOR IN KINE NOSE WORK THROUGH NACSW, WHICH IS THE GLOBAL RECOGNIZED LEADER IN KINE CENT WORK. I'M AN ACCREDITED DOG TRAINER THROUGH WBC, AND I COMPLETED THE MASTER'S IN AGGRESSION PROGRAM THROUGH AGGRESSIVE DOG. OH, GOODNESS. SORRY. I'M ALSO A LEVEL 1 K9 CANINE ARTHRITIS MANAGEMENT ADVOCATE. BECAUSE KNOWING DOGS ISN'T ENOUGH. I HAVE RECENTLY ENROLLED MYSELF IN THE DIPLOMA PROGRAM, FOR AT COMPANION ANIMAL SCIENCES INSTITUTES FOR FELINES, IN THE CERTIFIED CAT TRAINING AND BEHAVIOR PROGRAM THROUGH ANIMAL BEHAVIOR COLLEGE. JUST REAL QUICK, IF ANYONE WANTS ANY MORE DETAIL ON MY BACKGROUND, [00:30:03] IF YOU JUST GO TO THE LINK WWW.WIGGLEBUTTACADEMY.COM/NICOLE, YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH ANY OF THOSE CERTIFICATIONS AND LEARN MORE, AND YOU CAN VERIFY MY CREDENTIALS THERE. BECAUSE KNOWING THIS EDUCATION AND KNOWING DOGS ISN'T ENOUGH. AS I MENTIONED, I DID THE THE CAT TRAINING PROGRAMS AS WELL. THIS ISN'T ALL ABOUT ME. THIS IS ALSO ABOUT MY TEAM. I'VE GOT 40 EMPLOYEES IN TOTAL. I'VE GOT 13 CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS. ON MY TRAINING TEAM, I HAVE A LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST. ONE OF MY TRAINERS HAS A PHD, THREE OF THEM HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE, AND ONE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PROCESS. EIGHT HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, FOUR ARE GRADUATED FROM OR IN THE CTC PROGRAM. AGAIN, ONE CAT BEHAVIOR CONSULTANT AND ONE IN TRAINING, WHICH IS ME. >> BUSINESS EXPERIENCE AND ALL OF THIS CREDENTIAL IS STILL NOT ENOUGH. REALLY, WHAT TOUCHES ME THE MOST AND IS PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN BOTH MY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE AND ALL THOSE CREDENTIALS HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE AS A VOLUNTEER, A FOSTER, AND AS A RESCUER. AS A VOLUNTEER, I'VE DEVOTED HUNDREDS OF HOURS ACROSS OPERATION KINDNESS, THE COLONY ANIMAL SHELTER, RAISING THE BAR ANIMAL RESCUE AND CANINE LIGHTHOUSE. I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FRISCO ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD INCEPTION, AND I'M CURRENTLY ON MY THIRD TERM. I'VE FOSTERED MORE THAN 100 DOGS THROUGH CANINE LIGHTHOUSE AND RAISING THE BAR ANIMAL RESCUE, AND I'VE BEEN AN INDEPENDENT RESCUER, AND I CONTINUE TO DO SPECIALTY REHOMES FOR PEOPLE IN NEED. THIS IS WHY ME. THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WHY NOW? THE TIME IS NOW, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNITIES LEADERSHIP ARE READY. HERE IN FRISCO, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD AND SUPPORT COMMUNITY OFFERINGS THAT ELEVATE ANIMAL CARE WITH THE GOAL OF KEEPING ANIMALS IN FRISCO. WHILE WE ARE STILL IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF THIS PARTNERSHIP, I'D LIKE TO LEAVE YOU WITH ONE OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE THROWING AROUND. I THINK IT WILL GIVE YOU EVERYONE A BETTER VISION FOR WHERE THE FACILITY SITS IN THE CITY OFFERINGS. THINK OF THIS OPTION AS CALLED A CARE CAMPUS, THE COMPANION ANIMAL RESOURCES AND EDUCATION CAMPUS. THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PRIVATE SERVICES HELP FUND PUBLIC SERVICES. I CIRCLED THOSE ARROWS IN THAT TEXT ON THE RIGHT BECAUSE IT REALLY DRIVES HOME TO ME THE MEANING OF WHAT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SHOULD BE. WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES IN TO UTILIZE THE WIGGLE BUT AND THE PERFECT PAUSE SERVICES, THEY ARE HELPING US PROVIDE THOSE PUBLIC SERVICES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, PRIVATE SERVICES HELP FUND COMMUNITY SERVICES. BEHAVIOR CONSULTING, ANYONE WHO USES BEHAVIOR CONSULTING, DOG AND CAT TRAINING, GROOMING, VETERINARY CARE, SOCIALIZATION PROGRAMS, HELP FUND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT CHIEF SHELTON TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND THAT ARE ALSO LISTED HERE. IN CLOSING, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE CAN CREATE PROGRAMS WHERE DOG AND CATS RECEIVE ENRICHMENT, ARE WALKED WITH, WHO ARE PLAYED WITH, AND THEY'RE EXPOSED TO POSITIVE EXPERIENCES AND TREATED AS INDIVIDUALS AND NOT NUMBERS. WE CAN LAUNCH VOLUNTEER TEAMS, TRAINING, ENRICHMENT TRACKS, PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL RESCUES AND UNIVERSITIES, AND WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY, SO THAT WE ARE ALL PART OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THIS CITY SHOW THE WORLD WHAT ANIMAL ADVOCACY SHOULD BE COMPASSIONATE, PROACTIVE, AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN. TOGETHER, I'D LIKE TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT IN FRISCO, PETS ARE NOT PETS, THAT THEY ARE COMPANIONS, AND THAT THEY ARE FAMILY. THAT'S ALL [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU FOR RAISING YOUR HAND AND BEING WILLING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF FRISCO. >> GOOD EVENING, MARY AND COUNSEL, KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THE CITY. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE RECEIVED A BROAD RANGE OF QUESTIONS ADDRESSING THIS PROPOSED PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. WITH THIS NEXT SEGMENT OF OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF THOSE QUESTIONS TO SHOW KEY THEMES AND RESPOND TO THOSE. THE FULL RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS [00:35:02] THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE POSTED ONLINE FOLLOWING THIS MEETING. BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE QUESTIONS, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO PUT QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK IN CONTEXT. IN TOTAL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE RECEIVED 129 QUESTIONS VIA EMAIL TO CITY STAFF. WITH THOSE QUESTIONS, THAT COMPRISE 17 TOTAL EMAILS WITH 13 UNIQUE SENDERS. OF THOSE EMAILS, 15 OF THOSE CAME FROM FRISCO RESIDENTS, 12 UNIQUE SENDERS, AND THAT REFLECTED 15% OF THE QUESTIONS RECEIVED. FIVE OF THOSE EMAILS REFLECTED THE SAME FORM EMAIL, SO IT HAD THE SAME TEXT FROM A WEBSITE ADDRESSING THIS POLICY ISSUE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT EXTENDS BEYOND OUR CITY IN TERMS OF INTEREST. WE DO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM NON RESIDENTS. THAT CAME IN THE FORM OF TWO EMAILS, ONE UNIQUE SENDER, AND THAT REFLECTED 85% OF THE 129 QUESTIONS RECEIVED ON THIS TOPIC. THE FIRST AREA WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO IS THE PARTNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WE'VE RECEIVED A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE LOI THAT YOU WERE FIRST ASKED TO CONSIDER AT YOUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, AND WILL AGAIN BE ON YOUR AGENDA TOMORROW. THAT LOI, THAT LETTER OF INTENT IS A NON BINDING AGREEMENT. IT'S SIMPLY PROVIDES THE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIRECT STAFF TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PARTNER ON A FORMAL OPERATING AGREEMENT. THAT DOES NOT APPROVE A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. ANYTHING THAT IS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE OPERATOR PARTNER AND STAFF WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT A FUTURE PUBLIC MEETING FOR FORMAL ACTION. WITH THIS PROCESS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, WE'RE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS GRAPHIC, WE'RE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER IN GREEN, AND THAT REFLECTS THE LETTER OF INTENT THAT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA TOMORROW. IF THAT IS ULTIMATELY ACTED ON AND APPROVED, WE WILL THEN GO INTO A PERIOD WHERE STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE PROPOSED PARTNER TO DEVELOP PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS. THAT PROCESS WILL EXTEND ROUGHLY FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS OR SO AND WE'D BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU AND CDC FOR ACTION IN EARLY 2026. IF YOU ULTIMATELY APPROVE THOSE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS, THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO SOLICIT DESIGN SERVICES AND BRING ON AN ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT. THEN ULTIMATELY ONCE THE FACILITY WAS DESIGNED, BRING ON A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT. THAT DESIGN AND BIDDING PROCESS WOULD BE ABOUT A SEVEN MONTH PROCESS, SO GETTING IN TO THE FINAL QUARTER OF 2026. THEN AFTER YOU PROCURE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, YOU'D GO TO CONSTRUCTION, THAT'D BE ROUGHLY BE A 16 MONTH PROCESS. THAT WOULD PUTS YOU AT A POINT OF FACILITY OCCUPANCY IN EARLY 2028. THE LAST ITEM ON THIS GRAPHIC AND MOST IMPORTANT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THAT WOULD OCCUR THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. WE WANT INPUT ON THIS FACILITY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY INPUT RECEIVED ON THE FACILITY AND THE PARTNERSHIP WILL HELP IMPROVE THE PROJECT. THE NEXT TOPIC AREA, I WANT TO FOCUS ON. WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO OUR CURRENT SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. SPECIFICALLY, HOW WOULD MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP MODEL IMPACT THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT? FIRST, THE CITY, AS THIS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, DOES NOT INTEND TO LEAVE THIS AGREEMENT. THIS EXISTING SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY CURRENTLY PROVIDES FOR ALL OF OUR ANIMAL HOUSING NEEDS. THE BUDGET FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS $650,000. IF THIS PARTNERSHIP WERE EXECUTED, THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE, HOWEVER, IT WOULD SERVE A DIFFERENT ROLE PROVIDING FOR LONG TERM HOUSING FOR UNCLAIMED ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT ADOPTED OR FOSTERED FROM THIS FACILITY. [00:40:06] THE NEXT QUESTION I'LL ADDRESS IS, HOW WOULD ANIMALS TRANSFERRED FROM THIS FACILITY BE TREATED BY COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES? COUNTY LEADERSHIP IS AWARE OF THIS PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP, BUT DUE TO THE EARLY NATURE OF THIS DISCUSSION AND THE LACK OF A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT OR EVEN A LETTER OF INTENT, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS BEGUN COORDINATION WITH COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE A NEED AND I WOULD BE OUR INTENT TO WORK WITH COLLIN COUNTY TO FACILITATE OUR OPERATOR PARTNER PROVIDING FOR TRANSFERS OF ANIMALS THAT ARE HOUSED IN THE PARTNERSHIP FACILITY TO THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER, AND WITH THAT, THEY WOULD PROVIDE FOR CARE RECORDS, AS WELL AS A BEHAVIORAL ASSESSMENT. WE FEEL THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP WOULD ULTIMATELY BENEFIT THE COUNTY AND THAT FEWER ANIMALS WOULD BE TRANSFERRED FROM FRISCO AND WHEN THEY ARE THERE WOULD BE A VERY DETAILED HISTORY OF THEIR TIME IN THIS FACILITY TO SUPPORT THEIR ADOPTION NEEDS AT THE COUNTY SHELTER. NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE WHY HAS THE CITY RELIED ON COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES DATA TO EVALUATE CAPACITY NEEDS FOR THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP FACILITY. THIS REALLY IS OUR MOST ACCURATE DATA SOURCE FOR FORECASTING OUR ANIMAL HOUSING NEEDS FOR THIS FACILITY? ALL OF THE ANIMALS THAT ARE PICKED UP BY FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES AND ARE NOT REUNITED WITH THEIR OWNERS IN THE FIELD, ULTIMATELY GO TO THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT DATA IS REFLECTIVE OF THE DEMAND THAT WE WOULD BE SHIFTING FROM THAT SHELTER TO THIS PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP FACILITY. THE NEXT THEME OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IS ANIMAL FACILITY POLICIES AND PARTNER VETTING. FIRST, IS WHY IS PURSUING THIS PARTNERSHIP MODEL IN LIEU OF A TRADITIONAL SHELTER MODEL. WITH THIS PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST CARE FOR ANIMALS AND THE BEST VALUE FOR TAXPAYERS. THIS MODEL IS DATA DRIVEN AND IT PROVIDES FOR HUMANE, HIGH QUALITY CARE WHILE USING RESOURCES WISELY. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS A LOT TONIGHT AND IN PAST MEETINGS. YOU CAN FIND MUNICIPAL ANIMAL FACILITIES, ANIMAL SHELTERS, WHERE THERE'S CHALLENGES, STAFFING, DISEASE, HIGH COSTS, CARE ISSUES. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL. WE DON'T HAVE THE DEMAND REQUIRED FOR A FULL SERVICE FACILITY. WE CAN USE THIS PARTNERSHIP MODEL TO PROVIDE FOR A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR ANIMALS IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY. NEXT QUESTION IS, HOW WILL THE CITY ADDRESS OWNER SURRENDERS AND STRAY ANIMALS FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES? OWNER SURRENDERS AND PUBLIC DROP OFF, ASTRAY ANIMALS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED AT THIS FACILITY. ALL INTAKE MUST BE HANDLED BY FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES. FOR THOSE FRISCO RESIDENTS WHO DO WANT TO SURRENDER THEIR ANIMAL OR CONSIDERING SURRENDERING THEIR ANIMAL, THIS PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP FACILITY WILL PROVIDE RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THOSE PET OWNERS. THAT COULD INCLUDE FOSTER AND RESCUE SUPPORT. ADOPTION SUPPORT, PET PANTRY ACCESS AND TRAINING, HOPING TO EITHER HELP THOSE OWNERS BETTER CARE FOR THEIR ANIMALS OR TO REHOME THE ANIMALS WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO GO TO THE SHELTER. WE PERIODICALLY, WITH OUR ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF DO HAVE FRISCO ANIMALS THAT ARE TAKEN INTO OTHER FACILITIES, OTHER MUNICIPAL SHELTERS, AND VICE VERSA, AND OUR STAFF WILL PICK UP OUR ANIMALS OR TRANSFER OTHER CITY'S ANIMALS TO THE APPROPRIATE FACILITY. NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS TO ANIMALS THAT ARE IN THE FACILITY AND GO UNCLAIMED? AS CHIEF SHELTON MENTIONED, THE DESIRED OUTCOME FOR THIS PARTNERSHIP IS A FIVE DAY MINIMUM HOLDING PERIOD FOR UNCLAIMED ADOPTABLE ANIMALS WHEN FACILITY CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE. ONCE THAT FIVE DAY HOLDING PERIOD HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED, THE HOPE IS THAT ANIMALS ARE EITHER ADOPTED, RESCUED, OR FOSTERED OUT OF THIS FACILITY, [00:45:03] OR THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. IF THE FACILITY IS EVER AT CAPACITY, THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER DOES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. MAINTAINING THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT IS A GOOD BACKSTOP FOR PEAK EVENTS. HOW WILL THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS WITH THE OPERATOR BE STRUCTURED TO LIMIT LIABILITY FOR THE CITY? THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS THAT IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, WILL INCLUDE AN OPERATIONS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PARTNER AND THEN A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTNER AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THESE AGREEMENTS LIKE ANY PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, THE CITY GAUGES IN FOR OTHER PROJECTS. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, THE PARTNERS COUNSEL, AND WE DEVELOP APPROPRIATE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT BIND EACH PARTY AS WELL AS REMEDIES IF EITHER PARTY FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THOSE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. ALSO THE PARTNER WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE INSURANCE FOR LIABILITY AND PROPERTY PURPOSES. >> WHICH ENTITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN THE FACILITY? THE OPERATOR PARTNER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, AND LIABLE FOR ALL ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY AND WILL MAINTAIN CUSTODY OF ALL THE ANIMALS HOUSED IN THE FACILITY. WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP, THE CITY'S PRIMARY ROLE IS AN OVERSIGHT AND COMPLIANCE ROLE, ENSURING THAT THE OPERATOR PARTNER IS COMPLYING WITH THE TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS AGREEMENT. WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES THE PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER AND VETERINARIAN HAVE WORKING IN OR MANAGING MUNICIPAL SHELTERS? IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT MODEL THAN A MUNICIPAL SHELTER. THE PROPOSED OPERATING PARTNER HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, HOUSING ANIMALS AND CARING FOR ANIMALS IN A BOARDING ENVIRONMENT. THAT PARTNER IS ALSO A RECOGNIZED BEHAVIORAL EXPERT. WE'VE HEARD HER IMMENSE CREDENTIALS THERE, AND I THINK THE KEY THEME THERE AS WELL IS BOTH FOR HER AND HER STAFF AND HER VETERINARIAN PARTNER, THEY STRONGLY PURSUE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. ANY GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE, THEY'RE GOING TO FILL THOSE BY THE TIME THIS FACILITY IS OPERATIONAL. DOES THE PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER HAVE THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY TO EXECUTE THIS PARTNERSHIP? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY FAIL TO PERFORM? WE HEARD EARLIER FROM THE PARTNER. THEY DO HAVE A WELL-ESTABLISHED SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS. WE'VE VETTED THE PERFORMANCE OF THAT BUSINESS. THEY HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF FINANCIAL STABILITY AND CONSISTENT PROFITABILITY. WE HAVE DONE PRELIMINARY FINANCIAL ANALYSIS TO VET THE FUNDING MODEL THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS PARTNERSHIP. THIS PARTNERSHIP, LIKE ANY OTHER PARTNERSHIP, IF THE OPERATOR FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, THERE ARE REMEDIES UP TO INCLUDE TERMINATION OF THE OPERATOR, IN WHICH CASE THE CITY WOULD SEEK A NEW OPERATOR PARTNER. WHAT PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO THIS PARTNERSHIP HAS THE CITY FOLLOWED THEM? A FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY A PARTNER THAT ALIGNS WITH CITY PRIORITIES AND DEMONSTRATES COMMUNITY VALUE. WE DO HAVE DISCRETION WITH THESE PARTNERSHIPS TO EVALUATE A POTENTIAL PARTNER DIRECTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE IN THIS CASE, AND THAT IS WHAT IS DONE WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. IN THIS CASE, THE OPERATORS EXPERIENCE EXPERTISE, TRACK RECORD, AND THEIR LONG HISTORY, OF INVOLVEMENT IN FRISCO'S ANIMAL WELFARE COMMUNITY WERE THE PRIMARY DRIVERS FOR THEIR SELECTION. WE FULLY COMPLIED WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAWS IN THIS MATTER. DOES THE PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR SERVICE ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD? WILL THE PARTNER PROFIT FROM THIS PARTNERSHIP? THERE IS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD IS ADVISORY ONLY WITH NO DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY. WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP, NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PARTNERSHIPS, IT NEEDS TO BE A WIN-WIN. IT IS OUR HOPE AND DESIRE THAT THE PARTNER DOES BENEFIT FROM THIS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THE CITY WILL BE BENEFITING FROM THE SERVICES THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE PARTNER. NEXT THEME ADDRESSES ANIMAL FACILITY DESIGN. THE MIX OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND HOUSING OF STRAY ANIMALS, THAT WAS NOTED AS A CONCERN FROM A DISEASE PREVENTION ASPECT [00:50:03] BY SEVERAL OF THE FOLKS THAT SUBMITTED QUESTIONS TO INCLUDE VETERINARY PROFESSIONALS. HAS THE CITY CONSULTED VETERINARIAN AND SHELTER MEDICINE EXPERTS ON THIS DESIGN? AS CHIEF SILSON MENTIONED EARLIER, WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO DATE WAS TO FACILITATE A POLICY DISCUSSION AND TO PROVIDE FOR PLANNING LEVEL COST ESTIMATES. THIS DOES NOT REFLECT FINAL FACILITY DESIGN. AS I'VE MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, ANY FACILITY WE BUILD TO INCLUDE ANIMAL FACILITIES, HEALTH, WELFARE, AND SAFETY OF OCCUPANTS AND VISITORS IS THE PRIMARY DESIGN CONSIDERATION, AND THAT WILL BE NO DIFFERENT HERE. IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ENGAGE DESIGN EXPERTS, WE WILL ENGAGE FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT EXPERTISE IN ANIMAL FACILITY DESIGN. WILL THE CITY ENGAGE AN EXPERT IN ANIMAL FACILITY DESIGN TO PERFORM A FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT, AND PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR THIS FACILITY? WE WILL NOT DO A FREESTANDING FEASIBILITY STUDY. HOWEVER, FEASIBILITY PLANNING IS BAKED INTO EVERY DESIGN PROCESS THAT WE DO FOR CITY FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT WILL BE NO DIFFERENT WITH THIS PROJECT. ONE THING THAT I DO HAVE TO NOTE WITH THAT IS THAT. THE FEASIBILITY PLANNING WILL BE BASED ON THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP MODEL AND NOT A MODEL THAT REFLECTS A FULL SERVICE MUNICIPAL ANIMAL SHELTER. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN THE TIME COMES, IF THE TIME COMES, WE WILL ENGAGE SKILLED DESIGN PROFESSIONALS IN ANIMAL FACILITY DESIGN. HOW WAS THE PROPOSED KENNEL COUNT DETERMINED? DID YOU CONSIDER A LONG-TERM PROJECTION FOR DEMAND? THE CURRENT CONCEPT INCLUDES 12 GENERAL HOLDING KENNELS AND EIGHT QUARANTINE KENNELS. THOSE QUANTITIES OF KENNEL CAPACITY WAS BASED ON OUR HISTORICAL DEMAND BASED ON COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES SHELTER DATA. THIS ACCOUNTED FOR ANNUAL AVERAGE, CONSIDERATION CAPACITY NEEDS, AND IT ALSO ACCOMMODATES FUTURE GROWTH. IF THERE IS A PEAK EVENT, THERE IS OVERFLOW CAPACITY RETAINED THROUGH OUR RETENTION OF THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WHEN WE TALK FACILITY PLANNING AND CAPACITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT MODEL FROM A FULL SERVICE ANIMAL SHELTER. THE LAST THEME OF QUESTIONS ADDRESSES ANIMAL FACILITY OPERATIONS. WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF FACILITY OPERATION STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES? THAT WILL BE THE OPERATOR PARTNERS RESPONSIBILITY, AND THAT WILL BE DONE BEGINNING IN THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE WORK AND SOME LEVEL OF FINALITY WITH THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE FACILITY IN ORDER TO TRULY GET APPROPRIATE OPERATING PROCEDURES IN PLACE. EVEN WITH THAT, THE OPERATOR PARTNER IS DILIGENTLY TOURING ANIMAL FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS MODEL. THEN ALSO WHEN THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE IF THEY GET TO DEVELOP FORMAL SOPS, THEY'LL ENGAGE EXPERTS IN FACILITY OPERATIONS TO SUPPORT THAT DEVELOPMENT. WILL THE PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER AND THEIR STAFF OBTAIN RELEVANT TRAINING IN THE HOUSING OF STRAY ANIMALS? THE PARTNER HAS COMMITTED TO COMPLETING MANDATED TRAINING FOR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, AND THAT COMMITMENT EXTENDS TO THEIR STAFF. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS PARTNER INVESTS SIGNIFICANT TIME AND RESOURCES TRAINING IN THEIR STAFF, AND THEY WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT STATE MANDATED TRAINING. WHAT VETERINARY CARE SERVICES WILL BE OFFERED TO STRAY ANIMALS WHILE IN THE CARE AT THE FACILITY? WHILE AN ANIMALS ON STRAY HOLD, THE OPERATOR PARTNER WILL MAKE SURE EVERY ANIMAL RECEIVES PROPER CARE, INCLUDING TREATMENT AS ALLOWED BY LAW. ADDITIONAL PREVENTIVE CARE SERVICES, SUCH AS SPAY AND NEUTER, VACCINE, AND MICROCHIPPING WILL BE PROVIDED TO ADOPTABLE ANIMALS AS FUNDING ALLOWS. WHAT TYPES OF OVERSIGHT AND REPORTING METHODS WILL THE PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER HAVE? SUBJECT TO THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. THIS PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS WILL DEFINE THE CITY'S OVERSIGHT ROLE RELATED TO COMPLIANCE, AND THE CITY IS ALWAYS COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY, AND THIS PARTNERSHIP WILL BE NO DIFFERENT. IT WILL COMPLY WITH THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT WHERE APPLICABLE. [00:55:03] THE CITY AND OPERATOR PARTNER WILL PROVIDE REGULAR REPORTS TO COUNCIL ON FACILITY OPERATION AND PERFORMANCE. WHAT RESCUE ORGANIZATION PARTNERSHIPS HAS THE PROPOSED OPERATOR PARTNER ESTABLISHED FOR THIS FACILITY? IT IS STILL EARLY, GIVEN THAT WE'RE NOT AT LETTER OF INTENT YET, THE OPERATOR IS NOT IN A GOOD POSITION TO PROCEED WITH PARTNERSHIPS, BUT THEY ARE VERY WELL CONNECTED IN THAT REALM, IN THE REGION, AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, THEY WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE CONNECTIONS AND BEGIN TO DEVELOP PARTNERSHIPS THAT BENEFIT THIS FACILITY. IF EUTHANASIA IS NEEDED, WHAT STANDARDS WILL IT BE CARRIED OUT UNDER? HOW WILL TRIAGE BE DONE DURING CAPACITY CRISES? WILL THE FACILITY OF HUMANE EUTHANASIA NEEDED FOR AN INJURED ANIMAL? DECISIONS TO EUTHANIZE AN ANIMAL WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE VETERINARIAN IN CONSULTATION WITH THE OPERATOR PARTNER AND THEIR STAFF, AND IT WILL BE BASED ON THE ANIMAL'S HEALTH AND CIRCUMSTANCES. IF THE ANIMAL HAS A CATASTROPHIC INJURY, THERE WILL BE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR HUMANE EUTHANASIA PRACTICES. BECAUSE WE'RE RETAINING OUR SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER, WE'LL NOT BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO MANAGE THE FACILITY USING THAT METHOD IF THERE IS A SURGE PERIOD. WE WILL BE ABLE TO BRING ANIMALS TO THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER TO EASE ANY FACILITY CAPACITY DEMAND. HOW WILL ANIMALS REQUIRE QUARANTINE DUE TO DANGER OR ILLNESS BE HANDLED. ONCE AGAIN, THOSE OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT ARE KEY TO SAFE MANAGEMENT OF THE FACILITY. THOSE WILL BE CRITICAL NOT ONLY TO EXECUTION OF THOSE PROCEDURES, BUT TRAINING STAFF. GIVEN THE NATURE OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE HANDOFF BETWEEN OUR ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF AND THE FACILITY OPERATOR, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY COORDINATE DIRECTLY WITH FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES TO DEVELOP THOSE PROCEDURES. WITH THAT, STAFF PRESENTATIONS ARE COMPLETE. WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE VERY DETAILED PRESENTATIONS, AND THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS WE DID RECEIVE WERE 28 PAGES, WHICH COUNSEL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THOSE THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL. I'LL JUST MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT. PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN BUILT ON, AND I THINK ARGUABLY FRISCO HAS DONE IT BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY. I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT. THERE'S A LOT THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT. I'LL SAY EVERY TIME WE CUT THE RIBBON ON ONE, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME COMMENT, BECAUSE AT THE TIME OF THE DECISION, THERE WAS ALWAYS UNCERTAINTY AND DECISION. LOTS OF DEBATE, AND THEN WE GO TO OPENING DAY, AND IT BECOMES OBVIOUS THAT THAT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE. EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT WE'VE DONE. ONE, I'LL SPEAK OF, IN PARTICULAR, IS FIELDHOUSE USA, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THIS EXACT MODEL THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. IT'S BASICALLY A COPY AND PASTE. I WAS ON COUNCIL BACK IN 2007, 2008, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE DECISION ON FIELDHOUSE USA, AND IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE TODAY THAT BACK THEN, IT WAS AN INCREDIBLY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE FOR THE CITY OF FRISCO. WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SAYING, WHY DON'T WE DO IT LIKE EVERY OTHER CITY DOES IT? WE SHOULD BUILD BASIC REC CENTERS, AND OUR PARKS AND REC SHOULD DO OUR KIDS YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMMING. THAT'S HOW EVERY CITY DOES IT, SO WHY WOULD THE CITY OF FRISCO WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? OF COURSE, THE ANSWER BACK THEN IS THE SAME THAT IT IS TODAY IS THE CITY OF FRISCO NEVER WANTS TO DO THINGS, THE WAY OTHER PEOPLE DID THEM JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY DID THEM. THE DAY WE CUT THE RIBBON ON FIELDHOUSE USA, IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE THAT GREW UP, BASICALLY SPENDING MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, SOMETIMES AT FIELDHOUSE. IT'S HARD TO EVEN IMAGINE LIFE IN FRISCO WITHOUT IT, IF YOU'RE A SPORTS FAMILY. BECAUSE OF THAT DECISION, OUR YOUTH GETS TO PARTICIPATE IN A FACILITY. IT'S PROBABLY WORTH $50 MILLION TODAY. MUCH BETTER AMENITIES THAN MANY COMMUNITIES GET TO DO. ALSO, OUR PRIVATE PARTNER IS A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT RUNS OUR YOU SPORTS PROGRAMMING. COMPLETELY TOOK THE BURDEN OFF OUR CITY STAFF IN OUR VISIT FRISCO. ON TOP OF THAT, THEY PAID FOR THE PUBLIC ASSET. WE'RE NOW COMING UP ON ALMOST THE EXPIRATION OF THAT 20-YEAR DEBT. [01:00:03] IT'S NOW, I THINK, IN YEAR 17 OF AN INCREDIBLE SUCCESS STORY. IN THREE YEARS, WHEN THAT DEBT IS COMPLETELY PAID OFF, THE DEBT SURFACE THEIR RENT PAYMENTS CONTINUE. THAT WILL BE A CASH FLOW INTO THE CITY OF FRISCO INTO PERPETUITY. BY MAKING THAT BET, WE HAD BETTER CITY SERVICES, BETTER FACILITIES FOR OUR YOUTH, BETTER ORGANIZATION, LESS BURDEN ON CITY STAFF, A FACILITY THAT THE CITY OWNS, WILL OWN FOREVER, AND AN ONGOING CASH FLOW STREAM. I USED TO SIT IN THE STANDS AT FIELD HOUSE AND TALK TO PARENTS, AND I WOULD NUDGE HIM ON THE ELBOW AND SAY, CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY CONTROVERSIAL AT THE TIME THAT WE MADE THE DECISION? IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO BELIEVE WHEN IT'S OPEN. THE QUESTIONS BACK THEN WERE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING TODAY. WHAT HAPPENS WITH LIABILITY. LOOKING BACK, WE SHOULD HAVE VETTED THE PRIVATE PARTER PROBABLY A LITTLE HARDER. WE'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE WAYS BECAUSE THIS WAS A FIRST TIME OPERATOR TAKING A $20 MILLION FACILITY ON, AND WE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THEM. THANKFULLY, THEY FULFILLED THEIR PROMISE. LOTS OF GREAT QUESTION. I WANT TO FIRST THANK EVERYONE WHO'S PROVIDED THE INPUT. I ACTUALLY ENJOYED READING THE 28 PAGES THIS AFTERNOON. THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT INSIGHTS, THINGS THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF. IT DOES SPEAK TO THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE. SOME OF THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS ARE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. IT WILL BE AN ONGOING PROCESS. >> BUT TONIGHT IS TO CONTINUE TO HEAR CITIZEN INPUT IN WAYS THAT WE CAN SHAPE THIS PARTNERSHIP TO BE JUST AN INCREDIBLE ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE LAST THING I'LL ALLUDE TO, WITH THE FIELDHOUSE REFERENCE, IS WHILE WE WERE THE FIRST TO DO IT. WE HAVEN'T BEEN THE LAST, AND SO THAT'S REALLY BECOME THE NEW MODEL. THERE'S FIELDHOUSE USA IS NOW EVERYWHERE. ESSENTIALLY, EVERY CITY HAS COME HERE AND SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T OUR KIDS DESERVE THE FRISCO MODEL? I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT ONE DAY, OTHER PET ADVOCATES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES WILL BE, WHY DO NOT OUR PETS AND OUR FAMILIES, WHY DON'T THEY DESERVE THE FRISCO MODEL? WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER CITIZEN INPUT. [CITIZEN INPUT] >> I'M GOING TO CALL OUT TWO NAMES AT A TIME JUST SO THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP THINGS MOVING THIS EVENING. FIRST OFF, MELINDA PRESTON. NEXT, WE WILL HAVE JESSE RINGNES. WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A CLOCK FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN IN CITIZENS' INPUT BEFORE. THERE IS A FIVE-MINUTE CLOCK. IT WILL DING YOU WHEN YOU'RE GETTING TOWARDS THE END. IT WILL START BLARING AT YOU WHEN YOUR FIVE MINUTES ARE UP. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS MELINDA PRESTON. I LIVE AT 13370 BAYFIELD DRIVE HERE IN FRISCO. THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WANTING FOR MANY YEARS. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 23 YEARS. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE HAD A DOG GET OUT AND I HAD TO GO TO MCKINNEY TO PICK IT UP, NOT A HAPPY CAMPER. I LOVE WHAT I SAW, A LOT OF IT. WHAT I SEE THAT IS CONCERNING IS WE WANT AN ANIMAL SHELTER. WE WANT A PLACE THAT'S OURS THAT WE CAN GO TO. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE IN THIS MIC. THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT ANIMALS AND TAKING CARE OF ANIMALS AND NEED, AND MY CONCERN IS THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF RESCUE AND FOSTER FACILITIES. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE, RIGHT NOW, IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH. I COULD GO INTO THAT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH FACILITIES OUT THERE. I LOOKED AT HOW MANY AREAS FOR ANIMALS, FOR DOGS OR CATS WERE IN THERE, AND I COUNTED MAYBE IN THAT ONE AREA, 12. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE VET. I LOVE GETTING HELP FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT'S AWESOME THAT WE COULD DO THAT TO HELP WITH A VETERINARIAN AND MAYBE BEING A LOWER COST FOR PEOPLE, HELPING PEOPLE TO BE GOOD PET OWNERS. I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ALL THE PETS I'VE HAD IN MY FAMILY, IN FACT, DUCKS AND SUGAR GLIDERS, AND WE HAVE THREE DOGS RIGHT NOW. I LOVE ANIMALS. I HONESTLY DON'T THINK YOU CAN BE A GOOD HUMAN AND NOT LOVE ANIMALS ON ONE OF THOSE. BUT WE NEED SOMETHING BIGGER, I FEEL AS FAR AS A FACILITY FOR THE ANIMALS THAT GET OUT THAT ARE ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE GIVEN UP. I DON'T WANT TO SEE AN ANIMAL SINCE SOMEWHERE THAT IN FIVE DAYS, THAT'S NOT A LONG TIME. WHAT IF SOMEBODY GOES ON VACATION? I DON'T KNOW. I JUST THINK OF ALL KINDS OF STRANGE THINGS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE TIME. IT'D BE MORE OF A RESCUE CENTER, MORE OF A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME. [01:05:01] I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THIS COULD HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH ANXIETY, DEPRESSION TO COME AND WORK IN, AND TO BE ABLE TO BE LOVED BY AN ANIMAL WHO LOVES YOU, NO MATTER WHAT, AND THAT TO ME IS WHY WE LOVE OUR ANIMALS. SHE TALKED ABOUT IT. I DO LOVE HER. I THINK SHE'LL BE GREAT AT THIS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT ENLARGED SO IT COULD HAVE MORE ANIMALS IN NEED, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REACH OUT FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME. I WANT AN ANIMAL SHELTER. I THINK WE OWN IT, AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD. AGAIN, WHAT Y'ALL DID WITH THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES WITHIN THE MAIN HUGE FACILITY, BUT MORE FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT IS JESSE RINGNES, AND AFTER THAT WOULD BE ABBY ALLISON. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JESSE. I'VE LIVED IN FRISCO FOR 30 YEARS. I SPEAK TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED ANIMAL FACILITY. I'D LIKE TO THANK NICOLE, COUNCIL MEMBER LAURA ROMMEL, FRISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WIGHT ACADEMY FOR COLLABORATING TO BRING THIS FACILITY TO LIFE. THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF FRISCO. NICOLE HAS AN IMPRESSIVE LIST OF CREDENTIALS THAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT AND CERTIFICATIONS AND A PROVEN TRACK RECORD FOR SUCCESS. YOU'VE MADE A GOOD DECISION SEEKING, NICOLE, FOR THIS OPERATING PARTNERSHIP. FOR OVER 10 YEARS, ANIMAL ADVOCATES HAVE COME TO THIS VERY PODIUM TO ADDRESS MOSTLY THE SAME COUNCIL FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER. MANY OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR OVER THE YEARS ARE ACTUALLY COVERED IN THIS FACILITY PLAN, LIKE LAND, A BUILDING, A WAY TO PAY FOR IT, A LOCAL PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO VOLUNTEER, A LOCAL PLACE TO ADOPT, A LOCAL PLACE TO DONATE MONEY AND ITEMS, A LOCAL PLACE TO FIND ANIMAL RESOURCES IF A FAMILY IS IN NEED. AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS THAT THIS FACILITY WILL PROVIDE. MY MAIN CONCERN, OTHER THAN THOSE THAT I'VE ADDRESSED DURING THE WORK SESSION AND MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND TOWN HALLS OVER THE YEARS, IS THE TRANSFERRING OF THESE PETS FROM ONE ENVIRONMENT TO ANOTHER UPWARD UP TO POTENTIALLY OF SIX TIMES. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT NUMBER 1 BEING THEM HAPPY IN THEIR HOUSE, THEY GET OUT, THEY GET LOST. ENVIRONMENT 2 IS RUNNING THE WILDERNESS OF FRISCO. ENVIRONMENT 3 IS BEING PICKED UP AND PUT IN A METAL BOX INSIDE THE ANIMAL FAIL OR THE ANIMAL SERVICES VEHICLE. ENVIRONMENT 4 BEING TAKEN TO THIS LUXURY ANIMAL FACILITY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF. ENVIRONMENT 5 WOULD BE AFTER FIVE DAYS BEING PUT BACK IN THAT METAL BOX INSIDE THAT VEHICLE AND TRANSFERRED TO CCS, AND ENVIRONMENT 6 BEING CCS, WHICH WE HAVE ALL SEEN OVER THE YEARS, IS NOT RUN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION. THAT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS FOR A PET TO ACCLIMATE AND DECOMPRESSING IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. WHILE THERE WILL BE MANY PEOPLE TONIGHT ASKING FOR A FULL LONG-TERM SHELTER LIKE MELINDA, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL ATTEMPTS WILL BE MADE TO FIND A RESCUE PARTNER TO ACCEPT THESE PETS BEFORE THEY EVER HAVE TO GO TO CCS. BUT FOR THOSE RESCUES THAT ARE FULL, AND WHEN THE ONLY OPTION IS CCS, I ASK THAT DURING YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH CCS, YOU IMPLEMENT AN ADDITIONAL FIVE DAY HOLD OF PROTECTION AT CCS TO ENSURE ENOUGH TIME FOR PETS FAMILIES TO FIND THEM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY COULDN'T FIND THEM THE FIRST FIVE DAYS, AS WELL AS A WINDOW OF PROTECTION TO ALLOW PETS TO PROPERLY DECOMPRESS AND ACCLIMATE TO CCS ENVIRONMENT, TO ENSURE UNNECESSARY EUTHANASIA FOR "BAD BEHAVIOR ISSUES." WHEN IN REALITY, IT MAY ONLY JUST BE SIMPLY A PET THAT HAS HAD STRUGGLE DECOMPRESSING AND REACHED ITS STRESS LEVEL OF CAPACITY. OUR COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICE FEE WOULD REMAIN AT $650,000 AND CAN'T BE NEGOTIATED MUCH LESS, CONSIDERING WE ARE ALREADY SUBSIDIZING OTHER CITIES AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF COLLIN COUNTY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME REDUCING THE RATIO OF CCS WORKLOAD TO FRISCO PETS BEING DELIVERED. IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, IT WAS STATED FEWER ANIMALS WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO CCS, YET WE WOULD STILL BE PAYING THE SAME CONTRACT FEE. SPEAKING OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, CHIEF SHILSON, I REQUEST THAT WE WORK ON REDUCING THE COUNTY TAX ON FRISCO RESIDENTS. AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS INDIVIDUALLY REUNITED THREE STRAIGHT DOGS WITH THEIR OWNERS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THIS IS MY PUBLIC PLEA FOR EVERYONE TO PLEASE MICROCHIP YOUR PETS. LASTLY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC, AND I ASK THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSED ANIMAL FACILITY WHILE TAKING IN COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND ADJUSTING THE PLAN WHERE AND IF IT IS NEEDED. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. NEXT IS ABBY ALLISON AFTER THAT IS EMILY ROTENBERG. [01:10:03] >> HELLO. I'M ABBY ALLISON. I'M A FRISCO RESIDENT. I'VE SERVED ON ANIMAL SHELTERING BOARDS. I'VE FOSTERED MEDICAL ANIMALS, AND I'VE SERVED IN LONG-TIER VOLUNTEER ROLES AT COUNTY SHELTERS, AND HAVE COMPLETED A VARIETY OF HUMANE EDUCATION COURSES. I'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT HOW THIS PROPOSAL IS BAD FOR ANIMALS AND HOW IT'S BAD FOR FRISCO. I ASKED THAT WE MAKE A PROPOSAL WHERE NO ANIMALS ARE SENT TO COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. I ASKED THAT WE COMPLETE A FEASIBILITY STUDY. SIMILAR TO THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES WE COMPLETED FOR THE ART CENTER, WHERE RESIDENTS WERE ASKED WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID NOT NOTICE THAT IN THE ROADMAP. THEN THE LAST THING IS THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT OWNER SURRENDERS. I WANT TO COME TODAY AND TRY TO BETTER EXPLAIN THE PERSPECTIVE OF ANIMAL ADVOCATES IN A WAY THAT WILL LAND AND WHY WE DON'T LIKE THIS PROPOSAL. FRISCO IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO INNOVATIVE WORK, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF IT AND REALLY WELL, THANKS TO THE WORK OF COUNCIL AND STAFF. BUT THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT INNOVATIVE. FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF AN ANIMAL IN FRISCO, THIS IS A STRAY HOLDING FACILITY. A STRESSED, NEEDY ANIMAL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT A BASE RENT MODEL. THEY ONLY KNOW THAT THEY'RE SCARED FOR THEIR LIFE ON A BOX TRUCK, GOING FROM ONE HOLDING FACILITY, GETTING ON ANOTHER BOX TRUCK, AND GOING TO AWED OVERCROWDED, DISEASED COUNTY SHELTER. THAT'S THE MODEL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW. IF IT'S NOT CLEAR, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY ANIMAL ADVOCATES DO NOT LIKE THIS PROPOSAL. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME THAT THIS IS NOT INNOVATIVE, JUST OPEN UP CHATGPT. GO TO AN INCOGNITO BROWSER TO ELIMINATE THE BUYERS, MAKE SURE YOU'RE LOGGED OUT, AND JUST TYPE IN. WHAT CITY WOULD HAVE A STRAY HOLDING FACILITY OVER A FULL-SERVICE ANIMAL SHELTER? I'LL READ YOU WHAT SOME OF MINE SAYS. A SMALLER OR MID-SIZED MUNICIPALITY OFTEN WITH A LIMITED BUDGET OR SERVING A RURAL SUBURBAN AREA RATHER THAN A LARGE METRO CENTER, NOT DFFW, CITIES THAT ALLOCATE MINIMAL FUNDING FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, AND THIS COMPLETELY MATCHES WITH MY EXPERIENCE IN ANIMAL WELFARE. THAT ARE STRAIGHT HOLDING FACILITIES FOR RURAL POOR COMMUNITIES, THAT'S NOT FRISCO. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE POINTS BROUGHT UP BY CHIEF SHILSON TONIGHT. I HEARD THAT HOLDING FACILITY IS BETTER BECAUSE OF THE PREVENTION OF DISEASE ISSUES. WE OFTEN FORGET THAT PART OF THE SERVICE RESIDENTS ARE BEING PROVIDED IN FRISCO IS THE COLLIN COUNTY SHELTER. TO SAY THIS DECREASES THE DISEASE RISK IS JUST AN ADMISSION OF PART OF THE ANIMAL AND RESIDENT EXPERIENCE OF ANIMAL SERVICE. WE KNOW THE TRUTH THAT THE END STATE OF AN ANIMAL EXPERIENCE IN FRISCO IS COLLIN COUNTY SHELTER. WE KNOW COLLIN COUNTY SHELTER WAS JUST SHUT DOWN A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR DISTEMPER, WHERE MANY OF THOSE ANIMALS WERE EUTHANIZED. WHEN YOU GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF CHIEF SHILSON'S POINTS ON HOW THIS IS INNOVATIVE, HUMANE, COMMUNITY FOCUS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE POINTS WOULD ONLY BE ENHANCED BY A FULL-SERVICE SHELTER RUN BY NICOLE. MY GUT'S TELLING ME THAT NICOLE IS SO MUCH OF AN ANIMAL LOVER THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SEND ANIMALS TO COLLIN COUNTY WHEN SHE KNOWS THAT FOR EVERY SIX SHE LOADS UP, ONE'S GETTING EUTHANIZED. I HAVE STILL NOT SEEN A COMPELLING REASON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE A FULL-SERVICE SHELTER. MOST OF THIS ROOM, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE, IS GOING TO BE RELENTLESS ON THIS UNTIL WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE SOLUTION IN FRISCO WITHOUT COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. WE HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR PETS. I RECENTLY WAS WATCHING CHENEY'S DOG PARK STORY, AND I WAS INSPIRED BY THE RESILIENCY OF THAT GROUP. TO NOT JUST ACCEPT THE CHAIN LINK AROUND THE DOG PARK, BUT TO STICK WITH IT AND GET THE FULL DOG PARK THAT THEY WANT. YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO WAIT AND GET THE RIGHT THING FOR THEIR GROUP BECAUSE ONCE THEY GOT THAT DOG PARK, THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE THEIR DOG PARK. MY ASK IS THAT WE CREATE A FULL-SERVICE SHELTER. LET'S WAIT FOR THE RIGHT THING AND NOT ACCEPT A LESSER SOLUTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY PETS JUST TO COMPLETE IT QUICKLY. [01:15:02] THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL LISTENING TO RESIDENTS TONIGHT. THIS MEANS A LOT. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT, WE HAVE EMILY ROTHENBERG, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE HAVE SUZY ESCALANTE. >> HEY, I'M EMILY ROTENBERG, NOT ROTHENBERG. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AFTER CHIEF SHILSON'S PRESENTATION. ONE WAS, WHERE WAS HE GETTING THE DATA FROM? THE TIMES TO ADOPT OR RESCUE. AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN RESCUE AS A FOSTER SINCE 2017, THESE NUMBERS DON'T ALIGN WITH THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND EXPERIENCE. I AND MANY OF MY OTHER FOSTERS HAVE EXPERIENCED, AND I FOSTERED NEARLY 100 DOGS AND HAVE TWO FOSTER FILLS SINCE 2017. MAZIE'S MISSION, LEGACY HUMANE SOCIETY, HABITAT FOR PAWS, SPCA OF TEXAS WERE ALSO NAMED AS PEOPLE WHO, I GUESS, HAD SHOWN INTEREST IN THE OPPORTUNITY? WERE THERE OTHER POTENTIAL PARTNERS THAT EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND WERE 100% OF THOSE INTERESTED GIVEN THE SAME ACCESS OR INTERVIEW AS THE SELECTED PARTNER? PET EDUCATION WAS MENTIONED. WHAT TYPE OF PET EDUCATION WILL BE OFFERED? WE HAVE AN EXPOUNDED ON THIS AS MUCH AS IT SHOULD BE. THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, ARE YOU LEVERAGING PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WITH FRISCO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BEGIN WITH PET EDUCATION IN KINDERGARTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH GRADUATION TO HELP BRING ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE TO THE EPIDEMIC OF DISPOSABLE PETS? >> AS TO THE RENT CREDIT MODEL, WHO DETERMINES THE PRICE OF THE CREDITS TO THE CITY? AS A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, HOW ARE INFECTION CONTROLS BEING HANDLED? I KNOW IN HOSPITALS, WE HAVE NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS, WE HAVE ANSWER ROOMS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS IN PLACE. ARE THERE SEPARATE HVAC UNITS OR ARE POTENTIALLY CONTAGIOUS STRAY ANIMALS PUTTING OWNED ANIMALS WHO ARE BEING BOARDED AND TRAINED IN OTHER AREAS AT RISK? WHAT TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS? IS IT ONLY GOING TO BE THE REQUIRED TWO WEEK BOARD AND TRAIN FOR $1,250 PER WEEK ON THE WIGGLE BETS WEBSITE. NICOLE HAD MENTIONED FIVE DAYS. HOW IS SHE GOING TO POSITIVELY AFFECT BEHAVIOR CHANGE IN FIVE DAYS? HOW DOES THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOSTERING THAT CHIEF SHILSON MENTIONED DIFFERENT FROM CURRENT RESIDENTS BEING ASKED TO HOLD STRAY ANIMALS DUE TO SHELTER OVERCROWDING? I'VE BEEN ASKED ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION TO HOLD ANIMALS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS AT A TIME, EVEN. THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM OUT OF THE SHELTERS, BUT HOW? SHELTERS TODAY HAVE FOOD PANTRIES. THEY OFFER LOW COST SHOT CLINICS, AS WELL AS SPAY NEUTER CLINICS AND SERVICES THROUGH PARTNERS. HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT? FINALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE VETERINARIAN LEAVES MOVES FOR A SPOUSE'S JOB, GOES ON MATERNITY LEAVE, OR GOD FORBID, BECOMES INCAPACITATED LIKE THE VETERINARIAN FOR THE MUTTS & MAYHEM RESCUE. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS HERE, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS. TO ECHO WHAT ABBY SAID AND WHAT MAYOR CHENEY HAD PREVIOUSLY SAID ON THE DOG PARK. YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE THIS THE RIGHT FIT FOR FRISCO, NOT JUST THE IMMEDIATE FIX. WE WANT SOMETHING THAT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, NOT JUST SOMETHING TO SLIDE IN RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN CHECK THE BOX THAT WE GOT IT DONE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT IS SUZY ESCALANTE, AND THEN NEXT IS MARK PYLIN. >> WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS SPECIAL SESSION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON OUR PROPOSED ANIMAL FACILITY. MY NAME IS SUZY ESCALANTE. I AM AN 11 YEAR RESIDENT OF FRISCO, AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I WANT TO BEGIN BY VOICING MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR NICOLE KOHANSKI, AND DR. MARKIE SCHILLER. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH BOTH OF THEM AND SEEING BOTH OF THEM DO WHAT THEY DO WITH ANIMALS IN THEIR TRADE BEFORE THIS PARTNERSHIP WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED. I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THEY ARE THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR US TO PARTNER WITH IN FRISCO. THEY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ANIMALS, AND AS WE'VE HEARD NICOLE SAY, AND I REALLY TRULY BELIEVE IT, THEY'RE NOT JUST PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ANIMALS. THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ANIMALS. THAT'S IMPORTANT, AS WELL. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY FOR PUTTING FORTH A FIRST PROPOSAL AND A FIRST STEP TOWARDS GETTING SOMETHING [01:20:03] BETTER FOR FRISCO IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH THE ANIMAL SITUATION THAT WE DO HAVE, WHICH IS A HUGE, BUT I THINK IT IS THERE, AND IT IS REAL. I THINK HAVING THIS WILL HELP US IN THE LONG RUN TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF STRAYS THAT WE DO SEND TO COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. I SHARE THE VISION WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT WE CAN DO BETTER AND NOT SEND AS MANY ANIMALS TO COLLIN COUNTY. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY ANIMAL ENTER A SHELTER. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN AT COLLIN COUNTY. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN HERE IN FRISCO. I DO THINK THAT WE TODAY CAN DO MORE IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH OR WITHOUT A FACILITY. WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO REDUCE THAT. I DO THINK THE FACILITY WILL HELP US IN GIVING US MANY BENEFITS AND PROVIDING A PLACE AND LOCATION FOR US TO SERVE AS THAT STOP GAP. IF IT'S FIVE DAYS, IF IT'S SEVEN DAYS, IT'S STILL A PLACE WHERE WE CAN STOP, PAUSE, EVALUATE, REASSESS, AND POTENTIALLY GET THOSE ANIMALS CONNECTED EITHER BACK HOME OR TO RESCUES AND FOSTERS IN THE AREA. WHILE I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY DETAILS I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL WORKING ON THAT STILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED AND VETTED OUT AND QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY STILL HAVE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE NON BINDING LETTER OF INTENT AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS SO WE CAN TAKE THIS STEP FORWARD FOR ALL OF US AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPROPRIATE DESIGNERS AND ARCHITECTS TO GET THE RIGHT PLAN IN PLACE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MARK PYLIN. THEN NEXT WE'LL HAVE SHANNON GREER. > GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M MARK PYLIN. LIVE IN THE HICK SECTION OF FRISCO. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. LISTEN TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS. I WILL SAY, INITIALLY, I AM FOR OUR FULL SERVICE ANIMAL SHELTER. WE LISTEN TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS, AND WHAT I REALLY CAN'T DECIPHER FROM THE SLIDE PRESENTATION IS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HOLDING FACILITY AND A FULL SERVICE SHELTER. THEY'RE NOT TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE EVENTS IN MY MIND. THE SAME TOP SERVICE, THE SAME SERVICES, VETERINARIAN SERVICE, GROOMING CARE, THE SAME THINGS CAN ALSO BE OFFERED IN A FULL SERVICE SHELTER. IT'S ALMOST LIKE ONE CAN DO THIS AND ONE CAN'T. THAT'S A PIECE THAT I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, OTHER THAN MS. KOHANSKI, THERE ARE NO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS HERE. WELL, DUE RESPECT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ANIMAL SERVICE. THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON SHELTERING. NEITHER IS THE COUNCIL, NEITHER AM I. THAT'S WHY I TRULY BELIEVE IF WE'RE GOING TO RESTORE THE TRUST IN OUR RESIDENTS IN FRISCO, THAT WE NEED TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY, A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THIS FACILITY. I HEARD THE PRESENTATION FROM THE PROJECT COORDINATOR THAT SAID, WE'RE NOT DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY. I DON'T KNOW WHY. WE DO STUDIES ALL THE TIME. YOU CAN'T GET A TRAFFIC LIGHT PUT UP IN THIS CITY WITHOUT EIGHT OR NINE STEPS TO GET IT DONE, WHICH INCLUDES A STUDY. NOT JUST RESIDENTS, COUNTING CARS, ENGINEERING. YOU CAN'T GET A TRAFFIC LIGHT PUT UP WITHOUT STUDYING IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A $12 MILLION FACILITY BASED UPON INTERNAL INFORMATION. I FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING. I WORK IN THE CONSULTING FIELD. I DO PUBLIC SAFETY CONSULTING. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WE DEAL WITH FIRE DEPARTMENTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY THEY ARE REALLY SMART PEOPLE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT CONSULTANTS DO. THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. THAT'S THEIR JOB. THEY BRING TO BEAR RESOURCES THAT WE DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE. WE DO STUDIES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE PAY PEOPLE TO DO ISO STUDIES. WE PAY THEM TO DO THAT. WE PAY THEM TO TELL US ABOUT ISO, WE TELL THEM TO PAY US ABOUT STATION LOCATION. WE TELL THEM TO PAY US ABOUT WHERE TO PUT APPARATUS. WE PAY CONSULTANTS TO DO THAT. WHY WOULD WE NOT DO A CONSULTANT STUDY HERE? THE CITY JUST TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, DID A BUSINESS CONTINUITY STUDY. WE PAID A CONSULTANT TO COME IN HERE AND TALK ABOUT OUR BUSINESS CONTINUITY DURING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE DONE A STAFFING AND COMPENSATION STUDY, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE THAT WE PAID A COMPANY TO COME IN HERE AND DO. THIS IS NOTHING THAT'S NEW. IT'S NOT FOREIGN. I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THE STUDY. I THINK IT'S A TRUST ISSUE, TOO. I'VE SAT IN THIS CHAMBER FOR 10 YEARS AND HEARD NOTHING, BUT SHELTER, SHELTER. I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT TEMPORARY HOLDING FACILITY. WHAT I FIND ALSO INTERESTING IS AN ARTICLE IN FEBRUARY IN COMMUNITY IMPACT THAT MR. PIERSON OUR CITY MANAGER TALKS ABOUT THE ALUMINA TRACT, AND SAYS, THAT IS A PLACE FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER. HE SAYS IT IN THE ARTICLE TWICE. HE DIDN'T SAY IT'S A PLACE FOR AN ANIMAL HOLDING FACILITY. HE SAYS, SHELTER. I'LL BE GLAD TO PROVIDE THE ARTICLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. THEN I FIND OUT FROM THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD, [01:25:02] THAT THEY JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS IN APRIL. THE CHIEF SHILSON MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD IN APRIL AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. BUT I ALSO FIND IT DIFFICULT THAT WE DIDN'T ASK THEIR OPINION. YOU SAW THE SLIDE UP THERE THAT SAID, THEY'RE IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY, NOT A DECISION MAKING CAPACITY. THAT'S FINE, BUT AT LEAST GET THEIR ADVICE. WE DIDN'T DO THAT. WE TOOK OUR OWN BOARD AND DIDN'T ASK THEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHY ARE THEY THERE? IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS THE BOARD'S COMMISSION, LET'S ABOLISH IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THEIR ADVICE. WE DON'T NEED THEM. LET'S GET RID OF THEM. I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE 2023 BOND. THE CITIZENS NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO VOTE ON THAT. I'VE HEARD REASONS WHY THAT BOND WAS VOTED DOWN. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I WOULD ARGUE SOME OF THOSE POINTS, THAT WE'RE FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR THAT. I ALSO LOOK THAT WE'VE GOT WHY AREN'T WE U QUESTIONING OUR RESIDENTS. WE'RE DOING A STUDY, I THINK, FOR A BOND PROPOSAL THAT 65% OF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STUDY AND ASK HIM, WHY? WHY ARE WE ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS OR NOT? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. RESTORE THE TRUST. LET'S GET A STUDY IN HERE. IT MAY COME UP WITH THE HOLDING FACILITY. THAT MAY BE THE ANSWER. THAT'S IT, LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER, AND LET'S GET BEHIND IT. LET'S SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT WE NEED TO STUDY THIS. LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS, LAST NIGHT I HEARD COACH MIKE TOMLIN SAY ABOUT WINNING AND LOSING IN FOOTBALL. HE SAID WINNING AND LOSING, THERE'S A FINE LINE BETWEEN IT. HE GOES, IT'S LIKE STOMPING GRAPES OR DRINKING WINE. THAT'S HOW CLOSE IT IS. I DON'T WANT US TO STOP ANY GRAPES. I WANT US TO WIN. WE'RE GOING TO WIN BY COMING OUT, UNIFYING TOGETHER, KNOWING THAT AN INDEPENDENT GROUP CAME AND STUDIED THIS WITH CITIZEN INPUT, WITH FOCUS GROUPS AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT, WE HAVE SHANNON GREER, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE APRIL HANSON. >> MY NAME IS SHANNON GREER. I'M ON CONEY ISLAND IN FRISCO, 75036. I WANT TO FIRST START OFF BY SAYING, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE NICOLE. SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON. I KNOW HER PERSONALLY. THIS IS NOT AT ALL ABOUT HER QUALIFICATIONS OR WHAT SHE DOES IN HER BUSINESS. THIS IS ABOUT THE MESSAGE. I HAVE NEVER BEEN CONFUSED IN ONE HOUR LISTENING TO THE MESSAGE TONIGHT. YOU SIT HERE AND SAY THIS IS NOT A LONG TERM HOLDING FACILITY, BUT SHE HAS EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN BOARDING. BOARDING IS HOLDING. THAT'S LONG TERM SOMETIMES. YOU SIT HERE AND SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO CCAS. THAT'S OUR PARTNER. THAT'S YOUR CURRENT PARTNER, AND YOU'VE HAD NO DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT WILL THEY ALLOW ANIMALS TO COME IN? HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSPORT THEM THERE. YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOUR CURRENT CONTRACT AT ALL ABOUT THIS. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT MIXED MESSAGES TONIGHT. IT'S LITERALLY CONFUSING. BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING. THE STRAY HOLD PERIOD FOR AN ANIMAL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERIOD THAT THAT ANIMAL HAS WHEN IT COMES INTO A HOLDING FACILITY OR A SHELTER. FOR THE ANIMAL, IT'S THAT TIME TO BE RECLAIMED. FOR THE SHELTER STAFF AND THE VOLUNTEERS, IT'S THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW THAT ANIMAL. IT'S THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THEIR BEHAVIOR. IT'S THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT THEIR PERSONALITY PROFILE. IT'S THE TIME TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. ARE THEY DOG FRIENDLY? ARE THEY CAT FRIENDLY? ARE THEY PEOPLE FRIENDLY? ARE THEY KID FRIENDLY? IT'S ALSO TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL ISSUES THEY HAVE. THERE IS A LITANY OF THINGS WE DO IN THAT FIVE DAYS STRAY HOLD PERIOD THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THAT ANIMAL SUCCESS. IT ALLOWS US TO GIVE BETTER PLACEMENT DECISIONS FOR THAT ANIMAL FOR THE PERMANENT LIFESPAN OF THE ANIMAL. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU FOR FIVE DAYS, LET YOU DECOMPRESS. WE'RE GOING TO SEND YOU TO COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES, WHO WE ALL KNOW. EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THEY HAVE BEEN OVERCROWDED ALMOST EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CONSTANTLY DOING CODE REDS. YOU SEND THEM OVER AND STRESS THEM OUT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN A NEW FACILITY. THEN YOU SIT THERE AND SAY, GOOD LUCK. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU LONG TERM. NO, THEY'RE NOT, SIR. THEY'RE GOING TO EUTHANIZE THEM IN 15-30 DAYS. THAT'S THE FACT. YOU WANT TO SIT HERE AND SAY, THIS IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR AN ANIMAL. WHAT YOU ARE BUILDING IS A SHORT TERM STAY UP EXECUTION FACILITY. YOU'RE GIVING THEM FIVE DAYS WITH YOU TO THEN GO OVER HERE. COLLIN COUNTY IS FULL. THEY HAVE NO ROOM. THERE ARE CRATES IN THE HALLWAY. AND WHAT DO THEY GET TO DO NOW? NOW THAT THEY OWN THAT ANIMAL, THEY GET TO IMMEDIATELY EUTHANIZE IT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEEP IT FOR SPACE. [01:30:02] THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEEP IT FOR ANY REASON. BOOM, THE DOG GETS A SHOT. REALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS FROM FRISCO, WHO WILL BE EUTHANIZED. I GUESS THAT'S THE SOLUTION YOU WANT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. YOU GUYS HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO YOUR TAXPAYERS. HOW MUCH DID IT TAKE PARK HILL TO CREATE THIS CONCEPT? THEY DIDN'T DO THAT FOR FREE. WAS IT 25, 50, 75, 100? COULD THAT MONEY HAVE BEEN SPENT ON A FULL FEASIBILITY STUDY TO DETERMINE WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED HERE, WHAT RESIDENTS ACTUALLY WANT? YOU'RE SAYING TO RESIDENTS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO SPEND 12.5 MILLION OF YOUR CDC TAXPAYER DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST FIDUCIARY THING FOR US TO DO VERSUS SPENDING 50,000 TO GET A FEASIBILITY STUDY. I DON'T THINK SO. I'D RATHER SPEND 50,000 AND FIND OUT WHAT WE NEED NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CCS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PAY. 566,000-650,000. YOU DID A STUDY IN YOUR OWN EMAILS, AND IN 2022, YOU SAID THE AVERAGE SIZE FACILITY WE NEED IS 16,380 SQUARE FEET. YOU'RE BUILDING THAT. BUT WE'RE ONLY USING 5,500 SQUARE FEET FOR FRISCO ANIMALS. I COMMEND THE CITY'S DESIRE TO BE INNOVATIVE AND FORWARD THINKING. I REALLY DO. NICOLE'S PLAN IS GREAT, BUT BEHAVIOR TAKES MORE THAN FIVE DAYS. I KEEP HEARING DATA DRIVEN. WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT DATA IN PIRS, AND YOU WON'T GIVE IT TO US. IF IT'S SO GREAT, JUST RELEASE IT. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THE SECRET INGREDIENT THAT FRISCO HAS THAT'S GOING TO GET THESE DOGS ADOPTED IN 5-6, 7 DAYS THAT EVERY OTHER SHELTER IN AMERICA DOESN'T KNOW. BECAUSE, BELIEVE ME, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET THEM ALL ADOPTED IN 5-6 DAYS. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT IS APRIL HANSON AND THEN FINALLY, DAVID OVARD. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS APRIL HANSON, AND I AM A CITY OF FRISCO RESIDENT. I'M GOING TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN MY OTHER FRISCO CITIZENS. HAS YOUR SALARY INCREASED 58% IN FOUR YEARS? PRO PLAN DOG FOOD HAS INCREASED 58% IN PRICE FOR DOG FOOD IN FOUR YEARS. I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME IN THE ECONOMY. I WORK. I ALSO VOLUNTEER AT A WONDERFUL CAT RESCUE ORGANIZATION AND IT IS SO SAD BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS OR THEY GET JOB TRANSFERS, INFLATION HAPPENS. MY SALARY DOESN'T INCREASE 58%. DOES YOURS? THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE CATS. THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE DOGS ANYMORE, AND THEY SURRENDER THEIR ANIMALS. THEY'RE SURRENDERING THEM TO NONPROFITS. THEY'RE SURRENDERING THE M TO ANIMAL SHELTERS. THE ASPC IS OVER CAPACITATED. VOLUNTEERS ARE ASKED TO TAKE IN ANIMALS. THAT IS MY MONEY BEING SPENT ON SOMEBODY ELSE WHO COULD NOT AFFORD IT. YOUR PLAN, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 19 IN SLIDE 20 IS NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR THAT WONDERFUL VET THAT IS WILLING TO DO IT. THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOU GUYS AREN'T SUBSIDIZING HER AND ALL THE MONEY SHE HAS TO SPEND ON HER EMPLOYEES TO TAKE CARE OF THESE ANIMALS THAT ARE OWNER SURRENDERED OR THAT ARE FOUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE OWNER SURRENDER FEE. YOU GUYS AREN'T ACCOUNTING FOR THAT. YOU HAVE TO FINANCIALLY HELP THIS VET BY INCREASING THE PET SURRENDER FEES THAT THE CITY OF FRISCO CHARGES. IT'S HAND IN HAND. YOU ARE SETTING THIS VET UP FOR FINANCIAL FAILURE. THIS IS NOT FEASIBLY ECONOMICAL FOR HER BOTTOM LINE. [01:35:03] FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND EMPLOYEES AND ALL OF HER TIME SPENT IN THE SHOTS, SHE NEEDS TO BE A NONPROFIT. THIS WHAT YOU HAVE THIS SETUP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE OR THIS FACILITY, AND SHE'S GOING TO HOLD THEM FOR FIVE DAYS. IT DOESN'T WORK. FINANCIALLY, IT'S NOT RIGHT. THE CITY OF FRISCO NEEDS TO BE ASSESSING REGISTRATION FEES. ON ANIMALS, THEY NEED TO BE ASSESSING LOST PET FEES AND OWNER SURRENDER FEES. THOSE FEES NEED TO GO UP. IF WE ARE TO BE A FRISCO MODEL, AS YOU WANT TO SAY, THEN WE NEED TO SAY, WE ARE A FAMILY CITY THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PETS. WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PETS, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND PAY THAT $200 REGISTRATION FEE FOR YOUR CAT OR YOUR DOG. THAT WAY, IF IT'S EVER LOST, THE CITY WILL RETURN IT BACK TO YOU. THIS FINANCIAL MODEL ON SLIDE 19, WHERE SHE GIVES YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS GET IT ALL BACK, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. TEXAS DEFINES A FAMILY PET AS PERSONAL PROPERTY. THE CLOTHING YOU'RE WEARING, THE PURSE YOU WEAR, THE GLASSES, THOSE ARE ALL PERSONAL PROPERTY. SOMEBODY TAKES THEM, YOU CAN SUE THEM, THAT'S PERSONAL PROPERTY. THEY ARE OUR ANIMALS. THEY ARE OUR PETS, BUT TEXAS LAW DEFINES A PET AS A PROPERTY. IN A DIVISION OF AN ASSET, THAT DOG IS YOUR PROPERTY. IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY THAT A PET AND FOLLOW TEXAS LAW, THAT A PET IS A PROPERTY, THEN LET'S ASSESS A REGISTRATION FEE ON THAT PET. TEXAS LEGAL FRAMEWORK, THE ANIMAL IS AN ITEM OF VALUE TO BE OWNED. YOU CALL IN AND SAY, HEY, THIS CAT OR DOG HAS BEEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS THE CITY OF FRISCO RESOURCE MONEY TO PAY THAT FRISCO PERSON TO COME OUT, GET THAT PET, WHETHER IT BE A POLICE OFFICER OR WHATEVER LIKE THAT. THAT IS OUR MONEY THAT IS BEING ASSESSED. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IN THE CITY OF FRISCO, PEOPLE GO ON VACATION FOR LONGER THAN FIVE DAYS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO ON AN INTERNATIONAL TRIP, IT'S LONGER THAN FIVE DAYS. FIVE DAY HOLDING PERIOD IS RIDICULOUS. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. [APPLAUSE] >> FINALLY, DAVID OVARD. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. EVERYBODY. I'LL TRY TO RETURN YOU BACK TO THE CAWS GAME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. LEEN AND I MET IN 1990, AND ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS WE ADOPTED A DOG FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY. LIKE EVERY GOOD LEADERSHIP FRISCO CRUSHIE, SHE WAS THE BEST DOG EVER. AFTER THAT, MY FAMILY ALWAYS ADOPTED CATS, DOGS, EVERYTHING, GUINEA PIGS, WHATEVER, SO LEEN AND I DID THE SAME. WE HAD SASHA. WE HAD RILEY, WE HAD BAILEY. WE HAD WAFFLES. WE HAD A TRINKET, WE HAD A RATCHET. WE HAD A BUNKER. WE HAD A SULLY, AND WE HAVE A GHOST. OF THE THREE WE HAVE NOW, TWO ARE RESCUES, ONE'S FROM THE CCAS, ONE IS FROM A LOCAL FOSTER HOME. WE LOVE THEM. THEY LAY ON OUR BED, THEY SWIM IN OUR POOL AND THEY STINK UP OUR HOUSE AND WE LOVE THEM. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, I'M ALSO A STAUNCH CONSERVATIVE, AND I DON'T LIKE BIG GOVERNMENT. I DON'T LIKE TAXES, AND I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE MAKING ME PAY FOR THEIR STUFF OR VICE VERSA. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 21 YEARS, AND I WAS REALLY CONFUSED WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS FACILITY. I'LL SAY SHELTER ON ONE HAND, FACILITY ON THE OTHER, BECAUSE I THOUGHT EVERYBODY WOULD LOVE IT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY MIDDLE GROUND, BUT IT WAS NEW, IT WAS THOUGHT OUT. I THOUGHT EVERYBODY WOULD LOVE IT, AND THEN I HEARD THAT THEY WEREN'T. I THOUGHT, WHY? BECAUSE AS A CITY, WE HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN IN FAVOR OF A FULL ANIMAL SHELTER. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T LOVE OUR PETS. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T LOVE OUR ANIMALS. WE DO. IT'S BECAUSE THERE IS A FINANCIAL CONSTRAINT, AND THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH FULL ANIMAL SHELTERS. I HAVE A RELATIVE WHO OPERATED ONE OF THE BIGGEST ANIMAL SHELTERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND IN A CITY BIGGER THAN FRISCO, THE COUNTY SHELTER. HE USED TO SAY, MAN, THE PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH A SHELTER FROM STAFFING, FROM DISEASE TO ILLNESS, TO OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU CAN'T KEEP THE RIGHT PEOPLE THERE, IT'S INHUMANE. HE WAS A HUGE FAN OF GETTING THE ANIMALS OUT TO THE PEOPLE, TAKE THEM TO THE PARKS, TAKE THEM TO THE MALLS, GET THEM TO A FIVE K, GET THEM TO THE FESTIVALS, GET THEM OUT OF THE SHELTER AND GET THEM TO THE PEOPLE. THAT WAS HIS BIG MESSAGE. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THE COST BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE SUPER EXPENSIVE AS A FULL BLOWN ANIMAL SHELTER. WE CURRENTLY PAY $650,000 TO CCAS. [01:40:03] BUT IF WE DO A FULL BLOWN ANIMAL SHELTER, IF WE DO IT ON THE CHEAP, LIKE, THE REALLY CHEAP, WE ONLY PUT 11.5 MILLION INTO IT UPFRONT, AND WE ONLY PAY $2.5 MILLION AS THE PROJECTION SHOW. I'LL TELL YOU THAT LOOKS REALLY LIGHT. IF YOU GO DO THE RESEARCH, 250,000 PERSON CITY ON AVERAGE SPENDS 2.5 TO $8 MILLION A YEAR ON AN ANIMAL SHELTER. IF YOU ADD UP THE REALLY CHEAP VERSION OF IT, AND I PUT THIS IN HERE FOR YOU ALL SINCE YOU'RE ON CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE A THREE YEAR TERM ON CITY COUNCIL WITH THE CITY BILL, THAT COMES TO $18 MILLION THAT YOU'VE JUST SPENT ON AN ANIMAL SHELTER. IF YOU'RE ON CITY COUNCIL FOR TWO TERMS, IT GOES TO 24.5 MILLION. AFTER 10 YEARS, IT'S 33 MILLION. AFTER 21 YEARS, THAT'S HOW LONG I'VE BEEN IN FRISCO, IT'S $57 MILLION. THAT IS A TON OF MONEY ALL, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO. IF WE USE CDC FUNDS, WHICH WE CAN USE BECAUSE WE'VE INVESTED THAT MONEY WISELY AS A CDC, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE OPERATING COSTS. IF YOU DON'T DO THIS MODEL. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG. BUT IF WE DO A FULL BLOWN ANIMAL SHELTER, THEN WE'VE GOT THE ISSUE OF WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? IS IT GOING TO COME FROM PUBLIC SAFETY, FROM THE POLICE AND FIRE, PARKS AND REC, ROADS? WHERE IS IT GOING TO COME FROM? THOSE ARE REAL WORLD THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AND THAT CHALLENGES ON Y'ALL QUITE FRANKLY. ANIMALS ARE UNIQUELY EMOTIONAL THING. WE RELATE TO THEM. THEY'RE PART OF OUR FAMILY, AND WE LOVE THEM. BUT THIS IS A TON OF MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE PERSON? I'VE ACTUALLY GONE AROUND. YOU CAN ASK MY WIFE, SHE'S TIRED OF IT. I'VE PROBABLY SPENT THE LAST SIX WEEKS ASKING PEOPLE TAKING A POLE AND TALKING WITH PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS. TALK TO THE FRISCO RESIDENT WHO LIVES IN COLLIN COUNTY, WHO'S PAID FOR THE CCAS. THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE EXPANSION, AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR ANOTHER FACILITY, ANIMAL SHELTER IN FRISCO, IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ANIMALS? THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR OURS. I'M A STAUNCH CONSERVATIVE. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING PEOPLE PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T USE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR. I DON'T ENVY YOUR DECISION. WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE UPSET. I THINK YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM A COST AND SENT STANDPOINT AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. JARED AND BYRD, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET TOGETHER, AND WHEN ALL WERE ELECTED, YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT. KEEPING OUR TAXPAYER MONEY SAFE, AND I DO THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION IN THIS. I WISH YOU WELL IN THE DECISION, BUT I JUST WANT YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THANKS. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] WE HAD A LATE ENTRY BLUE CARD, JAMES WHITMAN. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND HAVING THIS DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. IT MEANS A LOT. I APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE FOLKS HERE ARE ALSO GRATEFUL. I ALSO WANT TO THANK NICOLE FOR THE BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION, HER PASSION, HER EXPERIENCE IN BRINGING THIS CONVERSATION TO THIS POINT. I WANTED TO SPEAK QUICKLY TO THE POINT ABOUT THE PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH ALSO SPEAKS TO THE NEED THAT I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. WE LOOK AT THIS, WE GET THIS RIGHT. WE DON'T BAKE IT IN WITH STATISTICS UNLESS WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. SOME SAY FIVE YEARS OF THE GOOD TREND, BUT ACTUALLY MAYBE TWO YEARS OF THE GOOD TREND TO LOOK AT AND SEE REALLY WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. WHAT THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY IS? HOW MANY ANIMALS ACTUALLY GET OUT TO A RESCUE AS OPPOSED TO NEVER GET OUT. I REALLY WANT TO ASK THAT WE CONSIDER DOING THIS STUDY. I WANT TO PUNCTUATE THAT WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS. PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN CANCELED OR ENDED OR CHANGED. THEY DO FAIL. I'LL GIVE YOU SEVEN EXAMPLES. I'LL MAKE IT REALLY QUICK. CITY OF WACO, HUMANE SOCIETY OF CENTRAL TEXAS, CONTRACT TERMINATION, AUGUST 2024, VACATED BY EARLY SEPTEMBER 2024. CITY OF MISSION, TEXAS, RIO GRAND VALLEY, HUMANE SOCIETY WAS THE OPERATOR. ALSO ATE 25, THAT WAS CANCELED. HAYS COUNTY AND AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, WHICH ARE THE VERY WELL KNOWN OPERATOR. [01:45:01] COMMISSIONERS VOTED TO TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT IN MARCH OF 2025. CITY OF CONROE, TEXAS, ALSO A VERY LARGE SUBURB OF HOUSTON, MORE THAN A SUBURB. THEY HAD A CONTRACT WITH CARE CORPORATION, A PRIVATE OPERATOR. THE CONTRACT WAS TERMINATED IN AUGUST OF 2024. DETAILS I HAVE, IF YOU'D LIKE THEM. CITY OF VAL PASO, ANOTHER LARGE METROPOLITAN AREA, BEST FRIENDS, THE LEADING EXPERT IN UNITED STATES IN ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL. LOST A CONTRACT, REPORTED TERMINATION BACK IN 2023, AND IT WAS CUT BACK. I CAN GO ON, THERE'S TWO MORE HUNTSVILLE, MOTHER LOCAL TEXAS FACILITY. LOCAL MUNICIPALITY TIES DISSOLVED IN 2016. SAN ANTONIO ASSORTED CONTRACT TERMINATIONS WITH PRIVATE OPERATORS. PLEASE, LET'S LOOK AT THIS. I WAS LISTENING TO THE IFD MEETING ONLINE WATCHING THE VIDEO, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DECLINE WE HAVE IN OUR SCHOOL POPULATION OF STUDENTS. THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT WAS FOCUSED CLOSE UP. HE SAID, WE SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS DATA. HE SAID, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT DATA NOW. NOT FIVE YEARS AGO AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN IFD. I BELIEVE THE SAME THING IS TRUE RIGHT NOW WITH THE ANIMALS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT REAL DATA. WE NEED TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AS WELL, BECAUSE THE DATA THAT I LOOKED AT SHOWS THAT THE THE RETURN REUNIFICATION RATE THAT THE CITY OF FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES HAS NOW, AND IF I'M WRONG, I'LL STAND TO BE CORRECTED IS BETWEEN 22-25%. CHIEF, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. IF A DOG GETS PICKED UP, THE OPPOSITE OF BEING REUNITED NOW IS 25% AT BEST. I THINK THE LAST STATISTICS I LOOKED AT, IT WAS DOWN TO AROUND 22%. WE'RE NOT DOING A GREAT JOB GETTING ANIMALS REUNITED. IF EVERY DOG IN CITY OF FRISCO WAS CHIPPED, WHICH WOULD BE A GREAT PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM, WE COULD PROBABLY RAISE THAT TO 50 -70%. THANK YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE A COPY OF THIS, I'D BE GLAD TO SUBMIT IT. THANK YOU.[APPLAUSE] >> THEN FINALLY, JUST TO NOTE FOR PUBLIC RECORD, THERE ARE THREE CARDS THAT SAID THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT YOUR SENTIMENTS WILL BE ADDED TO THE PUBLIC RECORD AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE SENTIMENTS ARE. >> SURE. DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK OPPOSITION. >> NO CONTEXT. >> NO CONTEXT. THAT WAS ALSO SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE PRESENTATION. >> ITEM THREE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF REGARDING THE PROPOSED ANIMAL FACILITY, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM COUNCIL. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT INPUT TO HAVE ANOTHER DATA PROCESS ASSISTANT INPUT. YOU GOT A 28 PAGE DOCUMENT THIS AFTERNOON TO READ THROUGH AS WELL. THEN WE'LL BE TAKING ACTION TOMORROW EVENING AT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THAT'S ACTUALLY ON OUR AGENDA FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION. BUT IN PREPARATION OF TOMORROW'S EVENING MEETING, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU REQUEST OF CITY STAFF TO HELP PREPARE YOU FOR THAT? >> I'VE MADE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION. >> YES, YOU FOLLOW UP. >> WE HAVE TIME TO GET ANSWERS PRIOR IF WE SEND IT TONIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING. >> IF THERE'S 129 QUESTIONS, NO. >> I THINK I HAVE SIX. >> I CAN FIGURE IT OUT. >> COUNSEL, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL PRESERVE THE MEETING TOMORROW FOR FINAL DISCUSSION AND ACTION. WITH THAT, I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> MOTION MOVED. >> MOTION BY JOHN. SECOND BY BRANT BRIAN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> PASSES 6, 0. WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 8:49. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.