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[CALL TO ORDER]
WE ARE GATHERED AT 6101 FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD, AND THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M..THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CONSISTS OF FRISCO RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
TONIGHT COMMISSIONERS PRESENT ARE SHAWN MERRILL, WARREN RUIZ, STEVE COHN, BRITTANY KOHLBERG, MICHAEL HOWARD TIFFANY WELLS, AND I, JON KENDALL.
WE'VE GOT JASON GRIMM AND JOE FITTS REPRESENTING FIRE.
WE HAVE ALYSSA BARSTOW AND LEGAL RYAN PITTMAN.
AND WHEN I LEFT OFF I SAID JOHN LETTELLEIR, DID I NOT? OR DID I? OH SORRY. MUST HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.
YOU KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE EARLIER DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. LET IT SHOW THAT, JOHN LETTELLEIR DID SHOW UP.
FOR YOU. THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN INPUT OR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? YEP. CITIZEN INPUT. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. PLEASE COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM. PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED SO PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE OR ANY APPLICANT PRESENT THIS EVENING TO ENSURE THERE IS ENOUGH TIME FOR ALL TO SPEAK.
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES, UNLESS YOU MUST ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THROUGH A TRANSLATOR, IN WHICH CASE YOU MAY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES. PLEASE NOTE THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION DURING CITIZEN INPUT.
ON ITEMS NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, OR TO INDICATE THAT THE MATTER MAY BE PLACED ON A LATER AGENDA.
WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? ALL RIGHT.
NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ITEM TWO.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 10TH, 2025 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.MOTION BY BRITTANY. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.
NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONSIST OF ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ANY COMMISSION MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUESTS PRIOR TO MOTION AND VOTE ON CONSENT ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY.I KNOW THAT'S ITEM THREE AND ALSO 13, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TO APPROVE ITEMS FOUR THROUGH 12 AND 14 THROUGH 24. SO MOVED. MOTION BY BRITTANY.
THANK YOU. SECOND BY SEAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WITH THAT, LET'S GO TO ITEM THREE.
[Conveyance Plat: Hillcrest 380 Addition, Block A, Lots 1-7 (CP25-0010)]
ANDRE, IF YOU WOULD. SECOND QUARTER. THANK YOU. CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. SO ITEM THREE.THAT WAS PREVIOUS. THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CAME BEFORE YOU ALL ON JUNE 10TH FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
OKAY. SO REQUESTING. IS IT A 30 DAY EXTENSION? NO, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW A YES. A 30 DAY EXTENSION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
OKAY. WONDERFUL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE. A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.
WITH THAT LET'S LET COMMISSIONER SEAN STEP OUT FOR A MOMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER ITEM 13.
[Open Space Plan and Preliminary Site Plan: Frisco MarketCenter, Block A, Lots 23 & 24 (OS25-0040 & PSP25-0021)]
I CAN GET MY LIST BACK. ALL RIGHT. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER MERRILL HAS STEPPED OUT.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEM 13? OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
ITEM 13. I GOT A MOTION BY TIFFANY. SECOND. SECOND BY BRITTANY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
WITH THAT, IF SOMEONE WOULD GRAB SEAN AND I'M GOING TO BE READING THE NEXT STEP.
TONIGHT WE HAVE. LET'S COUNT. 1 TO 4. TONIGHT WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA.
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AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS PRECEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUESTS.THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED TEN MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION, FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION.
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR POSITIONS. PLEASE AVOID REPEATING WHAT HAS BEEN STATED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, OTHER THAN TO STATE THAT YOU AGREE WITH THEIR COMMENTS.
THE TIME LIMIT IS FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK, THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME IF A LARGE VOLUME OF PEOPLE ARE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
REPEAT APPEARANCES OF PODIUM ARE NOT PERMITTED.
AFTER ALL, PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE CASE HAS BEEN CLOSED, NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED UNLESS THE CASE IS TABLED TO A FUTURE DATE, AND THE COMMISSION INCLUDES IT IN THEIR MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A FUTURE MEETING. AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.
PLEASE NOTE THE PLAIN ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING ZONING CASES UNLESS THE COMMISSION DISAPPROVES THE CASE, AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAL THE DISAPPROVAL.
FINAL ACTION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BY CITY COUNCIL.
YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF AS TO WHEN THE CASE WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL. WITH THAT, LET ME ACTUALLY SKIPPED AGENDA ITEM 25, WHICH IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
[Open Space Plan & Site Plan: NWC Teel & Stonebrook Pkwy, Block A, Lot 2 (OS25-0031 & SP25-0046)]
NO CORRECT. WAY TO DO IT. YEAH. WE'RE STILL IT'S ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.SO THAT WILL BE READ IN NOW. OKAY. GOOD GRAB.
ITEM 25 OPEN SPACE PLAN AND SITE PLAN. NORTHWEST CORNER, TEAL AND STONE BROOK PARKWAY.
BLOCK A, LOT 2, OS25-0031 AND SP 25-0046. OWNERS RISING FIVE LLC.
THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
SO THESE PROJECTS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD WERE SUBMITTED ON MAY 12TH, 2025 AND HAD A 30 DAY EXTENSION APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JUNE 10TH. SINCE THAT TIME, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND FOUND THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH CITY STANDARDS, ZONING ORDINANCES AND ENGINEERING STANDARDS, AND ALL APPLICABLE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
I MOVE TO DISAPPROVE ITEM NUMBER 25 FOR THE REASONS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF'S REPORT, AND DELEGATE TO STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE APPLICANT OF THE REASONS FOR THE DISAPPROVAL. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY STEVE.
SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM 26.
[Public Hearing - Replat: Tapestry Addition, Phase 2, Block B, Lots 1-9 (RP25-0006)]
I APPRECIATE WARREN KEEPING ME ON MY TOES. HOW ABOUT THAT? OH, NO, NO. NO PROBLEM. PUBLIC HEARING REPLAT, TAPESTRY EDITION, PHASE TWO, BLOCK B, LOTS ONE THROUGH NINE, RP 25-0006 OWNERS [INAUDIBLE] TWO, LLC. I DON'T KNOW IF I PRONOUNCE IT.YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST GUESSING. IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.
WE'LL TURN OVER. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THIS ITEM NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE TABLE.
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 26 FROM THE TABLE.
SECOND. MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND BY SEAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE TABLE.
THANK YOU CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. SO THE ITEM THAT WAS JUST REMOVED FROM THE TABLE IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING FOR APPROVAL AND DOES COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. AND THEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS ALREADY OPEN.
YES. AND SO WE DON'T NEED TO OPEN IT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 26? SEEING NONE MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I GOT A MOTION BY BRITTANY.
SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. PUBLIC HEARING PORTION HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR ITEM 26.
CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT THE ISSUE WAS BEFORE.
SO THEY'RE NOT CHANGING. THEY'RE SIMPLY PUTTING THEM ON THE OTHER LOCATION OF THE LOTS.
SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES A FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON ONE SIDE AND A ZERO LOT LINE ON THE OTHER.
SO THEY'RE RELOCATING WHERE THOSE SETBACKS OCCUR.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 26.
MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 26. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY SEAN.
SECOND. SECOND BY BRITNEY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS.
ITEM 27. PUBLIC HEARING. ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
[Public Hearing - Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (ZA25-0002)]
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AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE WSA 250002.OWNER. CITY OF FRISCO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU ALL THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST TO AMEND ZONING ORDINANCE SUBSECTION 9.06, WHICH IS THE OTC, OTR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE CURRENT STANDARDS WERE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2002, AND AIM TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE HISTORICAL, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT DEVELOPED AROUND THE RAILROAD AND TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, WALKABLE DESIGN. SO THE CURRENT STANDARD SPANS 78 PAGES, AND WHEN THEY WERE ADOPTED IN 2002, THEY INCLUDE A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY DID NOT HAVE IN OTHER ORDINANCES.
THESE ITEMS, THEREFORE, THEY ARE NO LONGER NEEDED WITHIN THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
SO THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WAS TO CONDENSE THE INFORMATION INTO A SMALLER DOCUMENT THAT WAS MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD IN CONVEYING THE INFORMATION BOTH EXTERNALLY TO DEVELOPERS AND APPLICANTS, BUT BOTH TO BOTH FOR STAFF AS WELL.
FOR EXAMPLE, LIGHTING STANDARDS THAT ARE ADOPTED IN THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS, STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ADOPTED WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND SIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ADOPTED IN THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
JUST TO NAME A FEW. SO IN ADDITION TO CLEANING UP, CONSOLIDATING THE STANDARDS.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WILL GO OVER IN A MOMENT.
SO JUST TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES.
SO THIS IS REINFORCING THE TRIPARTITE ARCHITECTURE, THE BASE METAL TOP FOCUSING ON THE PEDESTRIAN REALM THE IMPORTANCE OF DETAILED WINDOWS THE WATER COURSE AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS ARE JUST AS DRESSED UP AS THE FRONT WHEN THEY ARE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, OPEN SPACE, ETC..
THEN IT MOVES INTO ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE BY CHARACTER AREA.
YOU HAVE FOUR CHARACTER AREAS THE CENTRAL THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH, AND THEN THE OTC WEST BEING ALONG THE RAILROAD. SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THESE INDIVIDUALLY, STARTING WITH THE CENTRAL AREA, THIS IS REALLY THE HEART OF THE DOWNTOWN. CHARACTERIZED BY EARLY 20TH CENTURY ARCHITECTURE.
I'M LOOKING AT THE WESTERN CHARACTER AREA. THIS IS ONE OF TWO GATEWAYS INTO THE CORE OF THE FRISCO RAIL DISTRICT, REALLY SERVES AS THAT TRANSITION AREA FROM FRISCO SQUARE INTO THE DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT STAFF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.
STAFF IS PROPOSING THE INCLUSION OF ADDITIONAL PRIMARY MATERIALS, THOSE PRIMARY MATERIALS BEING ARCHITECTURAL METAL, WOOD AND GLASS. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THOSE ADDITIONAL PRIMARY MATERIALS, IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR SECONDARY MATERIALS TO COMPOSE A MAXIMUM OF 20% RATHER THAN 10%.
SO BY DOING THIS, IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THIS AREA TO HELP EVOKE A MORE DIVERSE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND REALLY PLAY OFF THE INDUSTRIAL HERITAGE OF THE AREA, BUT AGAIN, STILL MAINTAINING THE TRIPARTITE ARCHITECTURE.
THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT I'M LOOKING TO PROMOTE EARLY 20TH CENTURY ARCHITECTURAL, THAT IS, THE FOLK TRADITIONAL CRAFTSMAN FOR SQUARE AND FOLK VICTORIAN.
SO AS YOU'LL SEE ON THESE PAGES HERE. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK IN THE STANDARDS TODAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, MAY SPAN THREE OR 4 OR 5 PAGES.
WE'VE JUST CONSOLIDATED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INTO A SINGLE PAGE.
I'M REALLY HIGHLIGHTING THOSE POINTS FOR THAT TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
ONE THING THAT WAS A BIT UNCLEAR IN THE CURRENT STANDARDS IN THE 2002 STANDARDS IS RELATED TO COLOR.
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SO THE CURRENT STANDARDS, THEY PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON COLOR, BUT THEY ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S NO ONE SOURCE FOR HISTORIC COLORS.THIS CAN MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR APPLICANTS FOR STAFF TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, WHAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE USE OF VERY SPECIFIC SHERWIN-WILLIAMS HISTORIC PAINT COLOR PALETTES. ONE, TWO, FOUR PALETTE. SPECIFICALLY, THE STAFF ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE MAY BE SOME APPLICANTS WHO CHOOSE TO TO GO WITH OTHER COMPANIES. THEREFORE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE TOOL TO MATCH MY PAINT COLOR PALETTE THAT WOULD TAKE THE SHERWIN-WILLIAMS COLORS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, BAYER PITTSBURGH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE OTHER ALTERNATIVE COMPANIES HERE ARE SIMILAR COLORS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS TO ONCE THOSE COLORS ARE DECIDED TO CHOOSE A PRIMARY COLOR, AND THEN UP TO THREE ACCENT COLORS FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, TRIM SHUTTERS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
AND TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. COMMISSIONER COLBERG BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THIS EVENING THAT IN THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES, IT DOES SAY A PRIMARY COLOR WITH THREE ACCENT COLORS.
THE INTENT IS THAT AS A PRIMARY COLOR AND UP TO THREE COLORS, SO SHOULD THIS GET APPROVED THIS EVENING, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU ADD THAT INTO YOUR MOTION, AND THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IS CORRECTED BEFORE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS THE STANDARDS WITH THE COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL, DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS, DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS, THE RAIL DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD.
THERE WAS A POSTCARD MAILER TO THE RAIL DISTRICT PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO WE HEARD WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AS WE WERE DOING THIS PROJECT AND INCORPORATED MUCH OF THAT.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WHAT WOULD YOU OPEN? IS THERE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING? MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC.
MOTION BY STEVE SEAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE'RE IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 27 FOR THIS AND OTHERS.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK, JUST GRAB A BLUE SPEAKER CARD BUT NOT SEE ANYONE.
SEEING NONE, MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY SHAWN.
SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
HI. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED FOR ITEM 27.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.
AS A RAIL DISTRICT RESIDENT. I THINK THIS IS FABULOUS.
NUMBER ONE, LOVE THE ADDITIONAL PRIMARY MATERIALS IN OTC WEST.
I THINK THAT'S VERY FORWARD THINKING AND REALLY FITS THE VISION OF DEVELOPMENT GOING IN THERE.
REALLY APPRECIATED YOU ALL ADDING THE RAIL DISTRICT MAP AND SPECIFYING THE CHARACTER AREAS.
I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC. AND JUST ALL THE VISUAL AND PICTURE EXAMPLES I THINK ARE GREAT.
I THINK SOMETIMES JUST READING A WHOLE BUNCH OF TEXT VERSUS HAVING THE EXAMPLES.
SO I JUST APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT IT TOOK TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER AND TO CONDENSE EVERYTHING, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST VERY CLEAR. AND I DO LOVE HOW THERE IS A CLEAR SPECIFICATION OF COLORS.
SO I JUST THINK KUDOS TO YOU ALL AND GOOD JOB.
SO I HAD ONE COMMENT TO ADD, JUST THE THE EFFICIENCY THAT YOU GUYS ARE ADDING FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, THE LANDOWNERS, EVERYONE DOWNTOWN IS REALLY GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS TO GO FROM THAT LONG OF A DOCUMENT THAT OUTDATED.
YOU GUYS DONE A LOT OF WORK TO REALLY MAKE IT A SMOOTHER PROCESS.
THANK YOU. AWESOME. IF NOTHING ELSE, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 27.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 27 AS SUBMITTED BY STAFF WITH THE AMENDMENT TO PAGE 16 UNDER THE APPENDIX FOR COLORS UP TO THREE ACCENT COLORS THE WORDS UP TO BE ADDED.
NO SAID MOTION BY BRITTANY. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.
CONGRATULATIONS. ITEM 28 PUBLIC HEARING. ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
[Public Hearing - Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (ZA25-0003)]
AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ZA25-003. ORDINANCE, CITY OF FRISCO.GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS VICE AND LORI. AND FOR THIS ITEM.
STAFF REQUEST THAT IT BE TABLED DUE TO FAILURE FOR NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
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IT'S A NEW STATE LAW THAT WE NEED TO NOTIFY POTENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THEIR PROPERTY BEING LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING. AND WHAT DATE DO YOU WANT THAT TABLE TO TO? AUGUST 12TH. WELL, LET'S GO TO THE SECOND MEETING.SO THAT'LL BE THE 26TH. OKAY. AUGUST 26TH SIX.
SO I JUST WANT TO ADD TO WHAT CHRIS MENTIONED.
BRIAN BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION THIS MORNING.
AND THIS IS A CHANGE IN STATE LAW THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2023.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 28? MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 28. MOTION.
MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OFFER AN EXTENSION TO AUGUST 26TH.
PLANNING ZONING MEETING. I'LL DO IT. I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE AUGUST 26TH, THE P&Z MEETING. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY STEVE. SECOND.
SECOND BY SEAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED TO AUGUST 26TH.
ITEM 29 PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CHAMPIONS FRISCO Z24-002.
[Public Hearing - Zoning: Champions Frisco (Z24-0002)]
OWNERS PGA 76 LP. YES, PLEASE. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, PLEASE SHOW THE RECORD THAT SEAN MERRILL HAS STEPPED OUT OFF THE DAIS.THANK YOU. THIS ITEM WAS MOST RECENTLY TABLED AT THE MAY 27TH MEETING.
SO FIRST, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE TABLE.
SO MOVED. MOTION BY BRITTANY, SECONDED BY TIFFANY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
PLAN DEVELOPMENT 271 WAS ADOPTED IN 2018 TO ACCOMMODATE A VERY SPECIFIC MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE LESSO MALL DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MAXIMUM OF 700 URBAN LIVING UNITS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS MAINTAINING THAT THOSE URBAN LIVING UNIT BUILDINGS, THOSE BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE BE A MINIMUM OF SEVEN STOREYS IN HEIGHT, HAVE A MINIMUM OF 100% STRUCTURED PARKING, AND BE CONSTRUCTED OF TOP ONE OR TOP TWO CONSTRUCTION, THAT BEING CONCRETE AND STEEL. SO IN ADDITION TO THE 700 PROPOSED URBAN LIVING UNITS, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MAXIMUM OF 74 INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED TOWNHOME LOTS. SO THAT BRINGS THE OVERALL RESIDENTIAL COUNT TO A MAXIMUM OF 774 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SO AGAIN, PROPOSAL 174. WHAT IS ENTITLED TO DAY 1200? IF YOU WERE TO EVALUATE THIS REQUEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY OF 55 UNITS TO THE ACRE, YOU COULD GET UP TO 1270 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO HOW ARE THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS PHASED? SO AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ONE OF THE PHASE FOUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS NOT BEGIN CONSTRUCTION UNTIL BUILDING PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE TWO PHASE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS AND PARKING GARAGE.
AND THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING VERTICAL. AND THEN THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL BUILDING BEING TIED TO THE PHASE THREE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND PARKING GARAGE. SO YOU HAVE ONE BUILDING, ONE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING TIED TO THIS OFFICE, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE TIED TO THIS OFFICE. SO LOOKING AT THE HEIGHTS OF THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF FOUR STORIES FOR BUILDINGS EIGHT AND NINE AND A MINIMUM A MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF SEVEN STORIES FOR BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO. THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS THAT WITH BUILDING A, THERE IS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THREE STOREYS FOR THAT TERRACE LEVEL,
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DUE TO ITS ADJACENCY TO THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE STREET.SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS KEEPING THE TALLER BUILDINGS THAT ARE SEVEN STORIES ADJACENT, THREE 80S, BUT ALLOWING SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THOSE SHORTER BUILDINGS MORE INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
THE SEVEN STORY MINIMUM HAS REALLY BEEN THE CONSISTENT APPROVAL FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS AND OTHER RECENTLY APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENTS, BUT AGAIN, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF A LOWER BUILDING HEIGHT FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS EIGHT AND NINE.
LOOKING AT OPEN SPACE PER CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY, A MINIMUM OF 10% OF OPEN SPACE SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT SPACE IS FURTHER EVALUATED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM OF ONE HIKER PER 200 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 10.23% OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH DOES COMPLY WITH CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY.
AND THEN FOR ALL OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THIS EXHIBIT AS OPEN SPACE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED DETAILED OPEN SPACE PLANS FOR EACH OF THESE. SO ALL OF THESE DETAILED PLANS WILL BE TIED DOWN AS EXHIBITS WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE APPLICANT SHALL FOLLOW THESE DESIGNS WHEN THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE INTO THE EXHIBIT B DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT IS SPECIFIC TO AN ALLOWANCE FOR IN-LINE RESTAURANTS TO BE PARKED AT 1 TO 200.
THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT IS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY.
THE APPLICANT HAS SAID, AND PROPOSING TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE EXHIBIT B DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND SAY NO INCREASE IN THE PARKING RATIO SHALL BE A PLAT, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL BUILDING SPACE OCCUPIED BY THE RESTAURANT.
SO AGAIN, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES HAVE A PROVISION FOR AN INLINE RATIO, WHICH IS 1 TO 200 VERSUS STANDALONE RESTAURANT WHICH IS 1 TO 100. SO WHEN THIS STANDARD WAS FIRST PUT IN PLACE, IT WAS INTENDED TO BE APPLIED TO SHOPPING CENTERS WITH AN ASSOCIATED BIG BOX USER.
HOWEVER, OVER THE YEARS, THIS IN-LINE RATIO HAS BEEN APPLIED TO STANDALONE MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THOSE AREAS WHERE IT HAS BEEN APPLIED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A PARKING SHORTAGE WHEN THESE BUILDINGS ARE LEASED TO MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS NO TRANSIT IN THE AREA.
SO DRIVING WILL BE THE PRIMARY MODE OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'LL HAVE A LARGE MARKET AREA BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED USE OF RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, WHERE PEOPLE TRAVEL GREATER DISTANCES TO PATRONIZE BUSINESSES.
AND STAFF IS CONCERNED WITH HAVING A LACK OF PARKING UP FRONT.
THEREFORE, STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT INCORPORATING THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED PARKING LANGUAGE.
THEREFORE, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT B DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN BOLDED IN RED READ AND STRUCK THROUGH STAFF HAS MADE THE APPLICANT AWARE THAT THERE ARE ZONING ZONING ORDINANCE PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW FOR WHETHER IT BE ALTERNATIVE PARKING RATIOS OR SHARED PARKING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THE TIME OF PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND OR SITE PLAN AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
THERE, IT'S A LOT MORE KNOWN. WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE OF RETAIL? WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE OF RESTAURANT? WHAT ARE THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGES.
SO THAT IS TYPICALLY THE THE TIME WHERE STAFF IS WILLING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THIS STANDARD BE ADOPTED INTO THE EXHIBIT B DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, WE ESSENTIALLY LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT IS TIED DOWN WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
FURTHER, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE APPLICANT DEDICATE A BLANKET CROSS PARKING EASEMENT ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RETAIL AREA, NOT HAVING ENOUGH PARKING SO THEY COULD POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF THE PARKING IN THE GARAGE.
MOST RECENTLY, IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS FEEDBACK, PARTICULARLY THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND STORY OR ROOFTOP DECK FOR A PORTION OF THE BUILDINGS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE RETAIL DISTRICT.
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SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU WERE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS SAYS FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE A SECOND STORY OR A ROOFTOP PATIO. THIS REQUEST, WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY WAS SUBMITTED, WAS REVIEWED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HOWEVER, MOVING FORWARD TO TODAY, THE 2040 FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS MIXED USE CENTER, WHICH IS 30% RESIDENTIAL, 70% NONRESIDENTIAL.HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 700 URBAN LIVING UNITS AND 74 TOWNHOMES.
WHAT'S ENTITLED ON THE PROPERTY TODAY IS 1200 URBAN LIVING UNITS.
YOU DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL THIS EVENING, SUBJECT TO THE EXHIBIT B LANGUAGE AND THE ASSOCIATED EXHIBITS, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE LANGUAGE I REFERENCED A SECOND AGO THAT'S NOTED IN RED AND STRUCK THROUGH IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING. AND I WOULD ALSO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
GREAT. WE JUST MIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND DO THEY WISH TO SPEAK? YEAH, JUST BEFORE HE SPEAKS. SO AS JONATHAN MENTIONED YEARS AGO, WE PUT IN AND ABOUT IN LINE OF UP TO 10% OF THE MAIN BUILDING, MAY BE PARKED AT RETAIL.
WHEN WE'RE UP TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, I HAD THAT TAKEN OUT.
AND WE'VE LEARNED THAT IT DOESN'T WORK. AND YOU WANT TO SAY A NOTORIOUS EXAMPLE, YOU JUST JUST GO EAST OF THE RACETRACK OR I MEAN, AT ON EL DORADO AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE MARKING STAKE IN THEIR PARKING SPOTS.
AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A PARKING SPACE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO EVALUATE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT WORKED IN THAT SCENARIO.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT JAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS AND LORI.
MY NAME IS JAKE PETRIS. I LIVE AT 2774 BANDOLIER LANE, FRISCO, TEXAS.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.
WITH ME, I HAVE A GAGGLE OF PEOPLE. WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH BGE.
ALSO WITH BGE, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, JUSTIN. WE ALSO HAVE RANDY AS OUR ARCHITECT AND OUR OWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER, SHIVA CHANDRA. AND SO ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARISE, WE ARE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.
FORTUNATELY FOR SO MANY OF US, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH INPUT FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT EYES ON THIS AND HAD GREAT IDEAS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAST WORK SESSION Y'ALL BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF THE SECONDARY ROOFTOP TERRACE.
REALLY, REALLY GREAT IDEA. WE JUMPED ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
I CAN SEE MYSELF SITTING UP THERE WITH MY GIRLS DRINKING COFFEE ONE ONE AFTERNOON.
OVERLOOKING THE OPEN SPACES, MY GIRLS PLAY IN THE OPEN SPACE DOWN BELOW.
SO A REALLY GREAT IDEA. WE'VE THERE'S BEEN AN EVOLUTION OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS WITH THIS PROJECT AND EVERYONE'S HAD JOHN LETTELLEIR, BLESS HIS HEART, HIS HE'S HAD SO MANY POUNDS OF FLESH OFF OF ME ON THIS PROJECT, BUT I TRULY THINK IT IS, I THINK IT'S FOR THE BEST. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT, WONDERFUL, REALLY SPECIAL PROJECT HERE THAT WILL COMPLEMENT THE AREA.
IT'S A REALLY, REALLY SPECIAL AREA. I LOVE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLEMENT THAT AREA AND BE A PART OF SUCH A UNIQUE SYNERGY THAT IS NORTH FRISCO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
FORGIVE ME. TWO COMMENTS THAT BROUGHT WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
PRIOR TO THE MEETING. FIRST ONE IS I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE INTENT FOR THIS NORTHERN SIDEWALK IS TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROW OF TREES. EVENTUALLY 380 WILL BE WIDENED.
WE DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE MECHANICS OF HOW WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
THE ROAD PLANS, JILL, I DON'T THINK ARE FINALIZED IN THAT AREA.
SECOND THING IS, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IF WE COULD FLIP FLOP AREA FOR TO THIS AREA.
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THIS IS A DRY DETENTION POND. THE THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT WAS TO TRY AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE UTILIZED OPEN SPACE, AS OPPOSED TO A DRY POND IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE OFFICE.I WAS ABLE TO VISIT WITH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
IN CONCEPT, WE THINK IT'S A WORKABLE SOLUTION.
I DON'T THINK GRADES IMPACT THAT AREA TO WHERE THE DRAINAGE WON'T.
WE CAN'T MOVE IT TO THE EAST. I DON'T SEE A HUGE ISSUE WITH IT, AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE WATER ON THAT ENTRANCE AS IT COMPLIMENTS FIREFLY ACROSS THE STREET AND HAVING THAT SHARED APPROACH AND KIND OF SYNERGY.
AS LONG AS THE GODFATHER OF JOHN LETTELLEIR BLESSES IT, WE ARE HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH THAT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING OR. NO, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT. WE'RE ALREADY IN PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 29? SEEING NONE. MOVE TO CLOSE. PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION BY BRITTANY. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
PUBLIC HEARING PORTION IS CLOSED ON ITEM 29. YEAH.
AS JAKE MENTIONED ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER BY SWITCHING.
WHEN YOU PUT OPEN SPACE AT AN ENTRANCE, YOU DECREASE ITS USABILITY.
THOSE ARE RARELY USED. SO I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD A TIME LIMIT, BUT.
WE DID SOMETHING NEW TONIGHT. SO YOU'RE A COMPONENT OF KEEPING BUILDING FOR AS IS.
YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? BUILDING FOUR IS NOT A BUILDING. ISN'T THAT. THAT'S THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S UP AGAINST THE ROAD.
I WOULD NOT CHANGE THAT AT THIS TIME. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY FALL, FALL UNDER MINOR MINOR AMENDMENTS THAT IS PROVIDED FOR WITHIN OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER, THEN WE'RE TABLING.
WE'RE NOT DESIGNING AT THE DAIS. ALL RIGHT. AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE DOES. I JUST WANTED TO ASK STAFF TO CLARIFY.
JONATHAN, ON THE TABLE, THE CROSSWALKS THAT ARE GOING ACROSS THE PARKING LOTS.
DOES THAT GET DECIDED NOW, OR IS THAT A FUTURE DECISION WHEN THE THE SITE PLAN GETS DONE? WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS BASICALLY THE NORTHEAST CORNER THERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING BETWEEN THE RESTAURANTS AND THE BUILDINGS FROM THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS IN FRISCO. YEAH, JUST LIKE THAT.
AND THE ONE TO THE WEST OF IT THERE. YEAH. A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE, LIKE, THE TABLETOP CROSSWALKS WHERE THE PEDESTRIANS HAVE KIND OF THE THE PREFERENCE, THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE RIGHT OF WAY TO GO THERE. AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF TIMES SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC CALMING OR SPEED BUMPS ARE REQUIRED ANYWAY.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS A LOT OF TIMES THEY WILL COMBINE THOSE TOGETHER. DOES THAT GET DETERMINED NOW OR IS THAT A FUTURE DECISION? YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE WORKING ON THIS. I MEAN, THIS ONE'S SPECIFICALLY I KNOW WE KIND OF WENT BACK AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT. SOME OF THESE WERE ALREADY PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT EARLY ON.
THEY WILL BE REQUIRED THESE KIND OF LARGER, WIDER PEDESTRIAN AREAS WITH THE DOUBLE ROW OF TREES.
THIS IS TYING THEM DOWN. THIS TO SAY YES, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
THAT IT'S NOT TO THAT LEVEL. LIKE THAT LEVEL IS GOING TO GET DESIGNED.
AS THIS CONTINUES TO GO THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AND SITE PLAN, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, ALL OF THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO BE TIED DOWN AND WILL BE REQUIRED.
YEAH. LET ME JUST SO JONATHAN AND JAKE, AS WE'RE GUESSING, DID THIS GO ON? DID YOU BREAK IT SOUNDS LIKE IT. OH, I PAY THE ATTORNEY OKAY.
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SO BUT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT DOING A RAISE CROSSWALK THERE GOING ACROSS.SO THAT WILL BE PROVIDED. CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY WHICH AREAS.
BECAUSE SOME AREAS THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN SOME AREAS IT WOULD BE THE GREEN LINES GOING ACROSS.
THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE DONE. OKAY. EXCELLENT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? FOR THE APPLICANT? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE. OH. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO. GO.
SURE. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THAT.
WE HAVE 500 LESS UNITS THAN THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
LESSO MALL WAS SOMETHING I SAW IN PERSON PRIOR TO COMING ON P&Z.
AND JUST EVEN ADDING THE ROOFTOP LEVELS. AND I THINK THE PHASING IS GREAT.
THE HEIGHT OF THE OFFICE OFF OF 380 BEING INCREASED TO SEVEN STOREYS IS GREAT.
OVERALL, I JUST THINK THAT Y'ALL REALLY CREATED SOMETHING THAT IS EXCELLENT IN THE SENSE OF ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE MADE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I WOULD JUST BE IN SUPPORT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS THE PARKING.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. AND IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
GREAT. TIFFANY. YEAH. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT PARKING LIKE.
I AGREE WITH THE PARKING. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT SOME MORE.
SHOULD THE MOTION BE ADDED THAT STIPULATION, I THINK YOU SAID WHILE YOU WERE TALKING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE PARKING INSTEAD OF JUST REMOVING OUT. WELL, THE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF REPORT AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THAT STRIKES THE LANGUAGE.
THEN IT JUST WOULD BY DEFAULT BE SILENT. THEREFORE, IT WOULD FALL BACK TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND THAT LANGUAGE THAT I REFERENCED REGARDING ALTERNATIVE PARKING RATIOS OR SHARED PARKING.
ALL OF THAT IS ALREADY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY.
SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO ADD ANY OF THAT TO YOUR TO YOUR MOTION.
THAT WOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE. OKAY. THAT'S A PARKING QUESTION.
FOLLOWING ON THIS IS A NEW QUESTION BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE PARKING IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, YOU TALKED ABOUT THERE'S NO MASS TRANSIT NEARBY, OBVIOUSLY. AND SO 100% OF THE PEOPLE COMING THERE WOULD BE DRIVING BECAUSE IT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND OUR ARGUMENT IS THAT THE OFFICE WORKERS, THE TOWNHOME RESIDENTS, THE THE RESIDENTIAL TOWER FOLKS, SOME OF THEM WILL BE USING THE RESTAURANTS AND THE AND THE HOTEL FOLKS ALSO.
DO WE GIVE? DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF GIVING SOME KIND OF A PARKING CREDIT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS 100%? YOU HAVE TO DRIVE THERE. THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE WE WE SAY THAT THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE ARE WALKING. NOT ALL OF THEM, MAYBE NOT EVEN MAJORITY OF THEM, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THEY'RE WALKING THERE. DOES THAT GET CALCULATED IN LATER ON WHEN YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE THE PARKING? YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT DATA OUT THERE FROM DIFFERENT PARKING SOURCES AND, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF OTHER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ON THE GROUND THAT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
BUT HOWEVER IT'S IT'S PREMATURE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THE TIME OF ZONING BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF ALL OF THE RETAIL DISTRICTS SO ALL OF THAT RETAIL RESTAURANT COMES ONLINE FIRST AND THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL THERE, THERE'S NO OFFICE THERE. LIKE IF THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT THERE, THEN THAT PARKING IS NEEDED.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, SITE PLAN TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE OF RETAIL RESTAURANT.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S ON THE GROUND, ETC.. YEAH.
WE ENCOURAGE LIKE ACROSS PARKING AGREEMENT BE DONE UP FRONT BEFORE ANY OF THIS PROPERTY IS SOLD OFF.
SO LIKE THE OFFICE, IF THE OFFICE PARKING CAN BE USED LIKE IN THE EVENING, BUT DURING THE DAY, I MEAN, YES, YOU GET CREDITS FOR THAT, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE THAT SHARED PARKING THAT HAPPENS ACROSS AND NOT JUST TRYING TO TIE IT DOWN TO SPECIFIC AREAS.
THANK YOU JOHN AND JOHN. THAT WAS A GREAT ANSWER THAT CLARIFIES THAT IF I CAN MAKE ONE COMMENT,
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I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I DO STRUGGLE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE THIS WAS SO HIGH AND IDEALISTIC.IT DIDN'T LOOK AS MUCH LIKE A HIGHWAY RETAIL DIDN'T LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS PROBABLY DONE MAYBE THE BEST THEY COULD.
GIVEN THE CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE, AND I THINK THE CITY IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF BEING PRAGMATIC AND NOT HOLDING THIS LANDOWNER TO SOMETHING THAT MAYBE IS NOT REALISTIC IN THAT MARKET FOR A LONG TIME.
GREAT. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 29.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM 29 WITH THE LISTED READ OUT OF ITEM.
WHAT IS THAT H? WHAT'S THE NUMBER? 10H 11H. 12.
12 H. WONDERFUL. I THINK THAT WAS FOR APPROVAL.
I HAVE A MOTION BY TIFFANY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I SECOND BY MICHAEL. ANYONE ELSE OR WHAT ELSE? THIRD. HAVE A THIRD. I THINK IT TWO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS.
CONGRATULATIONS. I JUST HAD JUST A FEW COMMENTS.
YEAH. YOU GRABBED SEAN? YEAH. I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A FEW COMMENTS OF I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT THIS PROJECT I'VE BEEN ON FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS, AND IT'S USED TO BE A LESSO MALL.
AND I REMEMBER GOING HOME AND TELL EVERYONE THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO COME.
BUT WHAT I TRY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE IS PEOPLE THINK, HEY, ALL THESE 700 APARTMENTS ARE COMING TOMORROW.
THERE'S A PROCESS. AND SO A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, WE'RE TALKING SIX MONTHS OF ENGINEERING.
THEN IF THEY WERE STARTING IMMEDIATELY, WE'RE PROBABLY 18, MAYBE EVEN 24 MONTHS FOR PHASE ONE.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT THE HOTEL OR THE OFFICE HOTEL AND SEVEN STORY MULTIFAMILY.
IT'S JUST PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, AND WE HOPE IT HOPES IT MOVES EVEN FASTER.
SO CONGRATULATIONS! ITEM 30 RESULTS OF THE JUNE 17TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
[Results of the June 17, 2025, City Council meeting.]
OKAY. COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE FOR A DAYCARE, AND THEN THE FAILED ZONING CASE THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.FOUR ZERO. THE MAYOR AND JOHN KEATING STEPPED DOWN.
SINCE THE MAYOR HAS BUSINESS DEALINGS, AND THEN JOHN KEATING LIVES WITHIN THE FIELDS DEVELOPMENT.
GREAT. ITEM 31, SCHEDULE A FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS.
[Schedule of future discussion items.]
I KNOW I HAVE ONE. I BELIEVE MYSELF AND TIFFANY WILL BE GONE ON THE JUNE 22ND OR JULY 22ND.I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM. SO LET'S GO DOWN THE LINE, SHAWN.
FOR THE RECORD, SHAWN, YOU WILL BE HERE JULY 22ND.
I'M LOOKING. I'M LOOKING 22ND. I SHOULD BE. YES, I'LL BE HERE.
OKAY. YES. WARREN. YES. STEVE. STEVE. YES, I WILL BE HERE JULY 22ND.
IT IS? YES. AND MICHAEL WILL BE HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WE GOT QUORUM FOR RELYING ON YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT.
I'M COUNTING ON YOU. I TRY TO ONLY MISS ONCE EVERY 3 TO 4 YEARS.
THIS HAPPENED TO WORK OUT THAT WAY. OTHER SCHEDULE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THERE'S ONLY ONE THING LEFT TO ADJOURN.
MOTION BY SHAWN. SECOND. SECOND BY TIFFANY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:19 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.