[00:00:02] >> WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. [CALL TO ORDER] WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRISCO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WE WERE GATHERED AT 6101 FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD, AND THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M. THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CONSISTS OF FRISCO RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT COMMISSION'S PRESENCE ARE STEVE COHEN, SEAN MERRELL, BRIAN MORGAN, ED KELLY, WARREN RUES, BRITTANY KOBROG, AND I JOHN KENDALL AS YOUR CHAIR. NEXT ON THE AGENDA, CITIZEN INPUT. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING, OH. THANK YOU. STAFF. LEADING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS JOHN GILLETTE. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S WHY HE WANTED NOT TO GO. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE HE WAS LISTENING. FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE HAVE JOHN LETLER, ROLLANDRIA RUSSELL, DANIEL PONDER, PEYTON SHERMAN, SEAN O'QUINN, LULU PANG, AND JENNIFER MORGAN. FROM ENGINEERING, WE'VE GOT RICARDO ORDONEZ, AND FROM FIRE, WE HAVE JOHN GILLETTE AND ALYSSA BARSTO. DID I MISS ANYONE? T HANK YOU. WITH THAT, CITIZEN INPUT. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME. PLEASE COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM. PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED, SO PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE OR ANY APPLICANT PRESENT THIS EVENING. TO ENSURE THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR ALL TO SPEAK, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES UNLESS YOU MUST ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THROUGH A TRANSLATOR IN WHICH CASE YOU MAY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES. PLEASE NOTE THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION DURING CITIZEN INPUT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE POST AGENDA, EXCEPT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, OR TO INDICATE THAT THE MATTER MAY BE PLACED ON A LATER AGENDA. WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR CITIZEN INPUT? [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] NEXT ON THE ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. >> WE'VE APPROVE OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. >> YOU'RE OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION FOR SEAN FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A SECOND BY BRIAN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6: 0. [CONSENT AGENDA] YOU'RE EXCITED BECAUSE NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ROUTINE AND NON CONTROVERSIAL ITEM. ANY COMMISSION MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUESTS PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS MAY CONSIDER ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY. ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO WITH THE MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION. WE HAVE ITEMS, I BELIEVE, THREE THROUGH 19. ARE THERE ANY THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? >> THIRTEEN. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE ITEMS 3 AND 13. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 4-12 AND 14-19? >> SO MOVED? >> I GOT A MOTION BY BRITTANY. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ED. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6: 0. [3. Conveyance Plat: NEC Coit and Main Addition, Block A, Lot 7 (CP24-0006)] WITH THAT, LET'S START WITH ITEM 3. IS THERE SOMEONE NEED TO RECUSE HIMSELF, OR IS THIS BEING PULLED FOR LULU GET TO COME AND TALK TO US. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THIS PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED ON JULY 15, 2024. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED A 30 DAY EXTENSION ON AUGUST 13, 2024. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND FOUND THAT THE PLAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED SINCE THE AGENDA WAS FINALIZED ON AUGUST 23, 2024, AND FOUND THE PLAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND OR OTHER APPLICABLE STATE CODES, ORDINANCE, REGULATIONS, RULES, POLICY, OR STANDARDS. STAFF RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVAL FOR THE REASONS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NONE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> MOVE TO DISAPPROVE ITEM 3 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY ED. >> SECOND. >> A SECOND BY BRIAN, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6: 0 AND THAT ITEM'S DENIED. THANK YOU. WE'LL GIVE SEAN MERRELL A MOMENT TO STEP OUT, [13. Open Space Plan & Site Plan: Frisco MarketCenter, Block A, Lot 18 (OS24-0056 & SP24-0089)] AND WE'LL HAVE DANIEL LEAD US IN ITEM 13. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THESE PROJECTS I'M GOING TO GO TO ITEM 13 ON THE SCREEN. THESE PROJECTS WERE SUBMITTED ON JULY 29, 2024. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BE PLACED ON THE SEPTEMBER 10, 2024 MEETING AGENDA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THEIR REQUEST. >> NOW IS BEING RECORDED FOR SEPTEMBER 10TH? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THAT I'LL ART MOTION. >> MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE ITEM 13 TO THE SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING. >> I'VE GOT A MOTION BY BRIAN. >> SECOND. SECOND BY BRITTANY. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 5: 0. WITH THAT, LET ME I SOMEONE'S YES. THANK YOU, STEVE. [20. Public Hearing - Specific Use Permit: Frisco Park 121 (SUP24-0003)] [00:05:01] WHILE, HE'S GETTING HIM TONIGHT, I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY ONE. TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA, AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS PROCEEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED 10 MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION. FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION, THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. ALL SPEAKERS, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT NEED TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND PROVIDED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. IF THEY'RE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR POSITIONS. PLEASE AVOID REPEATING WHAT HAS BEEN STATED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS OTHER THAN TO STATE THAT YOU AGREE WITH THEIR COMMENTS. THE TIME LIMIT IS FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK. THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME IF A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE WISHING TO SPEAK. PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. REPEAT APPEARANCES TO THE PODIUM ARE NOT PERMITTED. AFTER ALL PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE CASE WILL BE CLOSED, AND NO FURTHER TESTIMONY UNLESS THE CASE IS TABLED TO A FUTURE DATE, AND THE COMMISSION INCLUDES IT IN THEIR MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A FUTURE MEETING. AFTER CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT. PLEASE NOTE THAT PLAN ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ZONING CASES UNLESS THE COMMISSION DISAPPROVES THE CASE, AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAL THE DISAPPROVAL. FINAL ACTION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BY CITY COUNCIL. YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF AS TO WHEN THE CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL. WITH THAT, AS WE UNDER STAYING UP THERE, LET ME READ IN ITEM 20. PUBLIC HEARING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FRISCO PARK 121 SUP 24-0003 OWNERS FANNIN FAMILY LAND LTD. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THE REQUEST THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD AND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS AN SUP FOR AN OFFICE, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER. THE LOCATION IS CURRENTLY THE OPERATION OF FANNING TREE FARM, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND EVENTUALLY TRANSITION TO A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS, AS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT B, ARE A TOTAL OF 180,400 SQUARE FEET AND ARE ORIENTED WHERE THE TRUCK DUCKS ARE FACING THE EAST AND WEST INTERNAL TO THE SITE. THE ORIENTATIONS OF THE BUILDING DOES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AMENITIZING THE CREEK, WHICH DOES SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE ADJACENCY TO A MAJOR CREEK. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, WHICH RUNS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE PROVIDES FOR BUILDING FRONTAGE ALONG 121. THE APPLICANT HAS DECLINED TO ENTER INTO THE VOLUNTARY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REGARDING BUILDING MATERIALS AND LOCAL BUILDING CODE AMENDMENTS, WHICH WE DID PROVIDE YOU A LETTER STATING SUCH IN YOUR PACKET, STAFF HAS MAILED PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS IN ACCORDANCE TO STATE LAW, AND AS OF TONIGHT'S MEETING, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS FOR INPUT OR OBJECTIONS. STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST, AS IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND AS THEY EXIST AND WILL DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF BEFORE WE INVITE THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK OR? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. NO JUST TO CLARIFY JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THE NOTIFICATIONS, WE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S REQUIRED, AND THAT'S WITHIN 200 FEET. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> OF THE PROPERTY LINE AND SO THAT WOULD CONSIST OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE ADJACENT IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I GUESS CITY OF FRISCO THAT OWNS THE PARK? >> YES. >> BUT THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED AREA. >> CORRECT. >> JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THAT. SOMETIMES WE DO COURTESY NOTICES THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO. WERE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NOTICES SENT AS A COURTESY TO THE NEARBY HOAS? >> WE DO SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO THE HOA LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST. WE DO DO THAT WITHIN 1,500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD. >> IN THE HISTORY, WE GRANTED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL NURSERY, WHICH IS DEFENDED TREE FARM, ASSUME AND NOW WE'RE CHANGING IT. BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO OPERATE THERE. BUT DO WE HAVE TO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT THEY CAN STILL OPERATE? >> NO, SIR. LAST MEETING, WE DID PUT THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU ALL FOR A CALL TO PUBLIC HEARING TO [00:10:02] RESCIND THOSE SUPS FOR THE TREE FARM OPERATION, BECAUSE AS OUR CURRENT CODE READS, THE USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND DO THEY WISH TO SPEAK? ARE YOU JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? >> WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, OR CAN I COME UP? >> NO, YOU GET CALLED UPON, YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT IF YOU WANT A PRESENTATION BUT IF YOU'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU DO, THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU FAILED A BLUE SPEAKER CARD. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] >> WHY DO YOU NEED TO COME OUT? YES, WE WANT YOU TO TALK, BUT YOU GOT TO COME TO SPEAK UP HERE. THEN BEFORE YOU START TALKING, IF YOU'LL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN ONCE YOU FINISH TALKING, IF YOU WON'T MIND GRABBING A BLUE CARD AND HANDING IT TO JENNIFER. >> HI, DAVID HICKS, WITH EAST GROUP PROPERTIES, AND MY ADDRESS, 705 JOHNSWILL COURT ARGYLE, TEXAS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT MR. CONE HAD ASKED ABOUT THE RESIDENTS. WE DID, AS A COURTESY MEET WITH BOTH OF THE NEARBY HOAS TO THE NORTH. THAT WAS JUST JUST AS A COURTESY TO BE PROACTIVE. WE'VE MET WITH BOTH THEIR GROUPS, ANSWERED QUESTIONS, TOLD THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, SHOWED SIMILAR EXHIBITS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> GOOD. >> I APPRECIATE IT. >> CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS? >> LET'S GO TO PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE'LL ASK THEM QUESTIONS. YOU MAY JUST WANT TO SIT RIGHT THERE JUST SO YOU DON'T USE UP ALL YOUR STEPS. WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING? >> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY SEAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ED. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6: 0, WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 20. >> SEEN THEN MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION BY SEAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY STEVE. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6: 0. PUBLIC HEARING PORTION IS NOW CLOSED FOR ITEM 20. I THINK A FEW PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS SO MAYBE, BRITTANY, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WARREN? >> I'M GOOD. >> ED? >> NO I'M GOOD. >> GOOD, AND SEAN? >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I LIVE CLOSE TO HERE, THIS TO ME IS SAD. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG I WAS READING ONLINE. FAMILY TREE FARM HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1977. BELIEVE? YOU'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. >> NOT THAT SPECIFIC >> NOT THAT SPECIFIC CASE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> HOLD ON. IF ANY OF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, YOU NEED TO COME UP AND SPEAK. WELL, HOLD ON. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK IN THE AUDIENCE YOU NEED TO COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND SPEAK, BUT DON'T SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING IN THE MIC. >> SORRY, I BATED YOU. ANYWAYS, TO ME, IT'S SAD. THAT'S A REALLY NICE LOCATION FOR TREES. I REALLY LIKE THE WAY IT IS, BUT IF IT'S ALLOWED, AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH IT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS HOW MUCH LONGER DO THEY ESTIMATE IT'LL BE A TREE FARM? WILL IT STILL REMAIN PORTION OF A TREE FARM? >> I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING TO THE APPLICANT, OR IS THAT TO STAFF? [OVERLAPPING]. >> FOR THE ANSWER THEN MORE WELCOME THE ANSWER? >> YES. WELL, THIS LOT RIGHT HERE WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS FAN AND TREE FARM. CURRENTLY, THEY OPERATE ON BOTH LOTS, AND SO THE LOT CONFIGURATIONS WILL CHANGE, AND THEY WILL MAINTAIN OPERATION ON THE SMALLER LOT. >> I WILL SAY I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF MORE ACCESSIBILITY OVER THERE ALONG THE CREEK THERE WITH THE VELLA WEB RIGHT NEXT TO IT. IT'S JUST A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AREA RIGHT THERE. THAT IS ONE THING I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR REACHING OUT TO THE ADJACENT HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT VOLUNTARILY. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD WHEN YOU GUYS DO THAT. MY ONLY CONCERN WHAT THAT WOULD BE IS, WE ALL KNOW THAT'S VERY TRICKY WHEN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER BOARD MEMBERS MEET WITH PEOPLE, AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW. I DIDN'T SEE THE SIGNS, ALL THAT STUFF. I THINK WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR SOME OF THAT, JUST GIVEN PAST EXPERIENCES WITH WAREHOUSES IN FRISCO, THAT I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN AFTER THE FACT, VERY LIKELY. I THINK THE STAFF DID THE RIGHT THING BY RECOMMENDING THIS TO SEND THIS FORWARD TO P&Z, AND THEN ON TO COUNCIL IF IT GETS APPROVED. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE CASES WHERE JUST BECAUSE STAFF SAID THAT THIS IS A PLAUSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND THIS MAKES SENSE TO THEM. THAT'S WHERE I THINK US ON THE COMMISSION, WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO STEP IN AND SAY, BUT DOES THIS MAKE SENSE OF A BROADER PERSPECTIVE, FROM A RESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE, FROM A CITIZENS PERSPECTIVE. WE AGREE WITH STAFF ON 90% OF THE TIME, [00:15:03] 95% OF THE TIME ON A LOT OF ISSUES. THIS IS ONE WHERE I WOULD DISAGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THEY DID THE RIGHT THING, BUT I THINK OUR JOB AS P&Z IS TO CONSIDER SOME MORE ISSUES. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WANT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO THINK ABOUT IS THE FUTURE OF THE 121 CORRIDOR, AND HOW DOES THIS FIT? WE DO ON ALL DEVELOPMENTS, WE LOOK TO SEE HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE CITY. THIS HAS BEEN VIEWED AS A GATEWAY TO THE CITY, BOTH IN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS FOR MANY YEARS, TALKING ABOUT ENHANCING OUR GATEWAYS TO THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S COMING IN FROM THE SOUTH ON 121 OR FROM THE NORTH ON 121 OR FROM THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE BY SOMEONE LAST NIGHT AT A PUBLIC MEETING THAT REALLY QUESTIONED WHETHER HAVING WAREHOUSES AS A GATEWAY ENTRANCE TO THE CITY IS REALLY WHAT THE CITY IS WANTING TO DO. SECOND THING WOULD BE THE MAJOR TRAIL, THE CREEK, THE GREEN BELT THAT'S ALONG THERE. YES, IT'S BEEN ENHANCED ALONGSIDE THE WAREHOUSES, BUT THAT'S ONLY TO DRESS IT UP AS BEST POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IT'S SILL GOING TO BE WAREHOUSES ALONG A GREEN BELT AND I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE NATURAL BEAUTY THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES AS WE REDEVELOP OVER THE COMING DECADES TO RECLAIM SOME OF THAT BEAUTY AND PUT DEVELOPMENTS NEXT TO THEM THAT REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NATURAL BEAUTY, NOT JUST TRY TO DRESS IT UP A LITTLE BIT. MY THIRD BIG CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, WOULD STILL BE WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT OBVIOUSLY, HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THIS YET, DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS YET. THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT WHEN WAREHOUSES GET BUILT THAT ARE NON DISCRETIONARY, THEY'RE ALREADY ENTITLED, THEY'RE ALLOWED. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THE CITY CAN LEGALLY DO. I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL FOR WAREHOUSES. NOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S STILL WITHIN VISIBILITY OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS. MY LAST CONCERN WOULD BE AS THIS AREA REDEVELOPS, WHETHER IT BE THE GAS STATION THAT LOOKS OUT OVER REALLY THE BEAUTIFUL BLUFF ON THE PRETTIEST VIEWS IN FRISCO IS STANDING ON THAT GAS STATION, LOOKING DOWN OVER THAT REALLY PRETTY TRAIL, PRETTY GREEN BELT. AS THE STUFF TO THE EAST REDEVELOPS OVER THE COMING DECADES, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO MATCH WHATEVER GETS APPROVED HERE TODAY. TEN YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THE 121 CORRIDOR, I THINK, I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT WHERE 121 CORRIDOR IS GOING FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, BEING ONE OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IN A MAJOR PART OF THE METROPLEX. I THINK I'M CONCERNED THAT 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'LL BE SCRATCHING OUR HEADS GOING, WHY DO WE HAVE WAREHOUSES FRONTING 121 IN THIS MAJOR, HIGHLY DEVELOPED, HIGHLY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THEN WHENEVER THE REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENS IN THIS AREA, WILL IT SIMPLY MATCH, AND WE'LL JUST GET MORE OF THE SAME? WE'LL GET MORE WAREHOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN THAT AREA? I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, YOUR MINDS MAY ALREADY BE MADE UP. YOU MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THEM BEFORE, BUT I AT LEAST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND CONCERNS. >> I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS, BUT THERE ANY QUESTIONS I'D WANT TO WITH THIS BEFORE WE PUT IT FOR A VOTE. THIS WAS I DIDN'T KNOW STEVE WAS GOING TO SAID, BUT SEAN'S COMMENTS, AND AS WE GROW, THOSE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME, OF COURSE, WE LOVE SEEING SOME OF THESE GREENERIES WE HAVE. THERE'S THE BRINKMAN RANCH, YOU SEE THE LONG HORN CATTLE, AND YOU SEE SOME OF THESE GREAT OPEN AREAS. THIS FAN TREE, THEY'VE BEEN A HUGE ASSET. THEY HAVE THEIR FINGERPRINT ALL OVER FRISCO AND REALLY NORTH TEXAS AND THEIR TREES ARE ALL OVER AND THEN THEY'VE DONE GREAT STUFF. BUT WHAT IT IS IS DEVELOPMENTS GO TO KEEP COMING NORTH. AS A PROPERTY OWNER, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MONEY THAT'S JUST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE REASON WHY THEY PROBABLY MOVED OUT HERE, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WAS IN THE 70S, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE 80S OR EARLY 90S IS THEY WENT OUT FAR FOR INEXPENSIVE LAND, AND IT'S CAUGHT UP, AND I KNOW THEY HAVE ANOTHER PROPERTY NORTH OF THERE. THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S US TO NOT SAYING SPECIFIC TO INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT'S NOT US TO JUST STOP THEM AND SAY, WELL, WE LIKE SEEING ALL THE TREE FARM THERE, WE LIKE SEEING THE OPEN SPACE, AND ALL THOSE, THIS IS THEIR LAND, AND I WOULD HATE FOR US TO SAY WE CAN'T SELL OUR OWN PERSONAL LAND. THERE'S A NEED FOR INDUSTRIAL AND SO THERE IS NO PERFECT PLACE TO PUT IT. I THINK A LONG TIME AGO, PEOPLE THINK THE STAR PARK WAS OH, WE'RE GO TO PROBABLY THESE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS AND NOW IT'S BEEN A HUGE ASSET, AND I THINK PEOPLE LOVE, LOVE IS PROBABLY A STRONG WORD, PEOPLE RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE STAR INDUSTRIAL PARK HAS TURNED OUT EXTREMELY WELL. THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS, IT'S JUST THE LIFE WE LIVE. WE FORGET WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS IS. ALL OF US PROBABLY HAD AN AMAZON PACKAGE DELIVERED TODAY, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS AMAZON, BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR INDUSTRIAL, AND THIS ISN'T BEING IMPACTED BY RESIDENTIAL. [BACKGROUND] ALL OF THE CHAPTERS BUT OF COURSE, [00:20:02] I WOULD LOVE TO SEE TREES THERE, AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, AND I BOUGHT TREES THERE, BUT TO ME, THIS MAKES A LOGICAL SENSE OF JUST THE GROWTH OF A CITY THAT WE'RE IN, BUT I'LL TURN OVER YOUR A HEAD. >> NO, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS THAT HAVING A WAREHOUSE ON THE 121 CORRIDOR PERHAPS WOULD ELIMINATE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THE CITY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR WAREHOUSES ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE. HAVING BIG SEMI TRUCKS COMING UP CLOYD OR CUSTER OR ALL THOSE FEARS TO THE NORTH, I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S DOWN HERE, AND IT DOESN'T BRING THAT TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR CITY. >> WITH THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE? >> YOU DON'T WANT TO SEPARATE MY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER MERRILL'S COMMENTS. I WAS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING THE TREE FARM, AS LOVELY AS IT IS. I UNDERSTAND FULL WELL THAT THE TREE FARM IS NOT STAYING LONG TERM AND THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO COME IN ITS PLACE. I SIMPLY WAS SAYING THAT I WAS HOPING THAT WHATEVER CAME IN ITS PLACE WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCED THE GREEN BELT AREA THERE. NOT SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY TAKES AWAY FROM IT. MY SECOND COMMENT WOULD JUST BE THAT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE STAR BUSINESS PARK IS GREAT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT LOCATION, I THINK ED MAKES A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE STAR BUSINESS PARK BEING IN TOWN AND HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR TRAFFIC WITH THE TRUCKS. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT POINT. BUT IF THIS WAS AT THE STAR BUSINESS PARK I'D HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CONCERNS WITH IT. I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT ENHANCEMENT, IT'S GOOD LOOKING. IT'D BE A NICE ENHANCEMENT TO THE STAR BUSINESS PARK, BUT MY NUMBER 1 CONCERN IS GOING TO BE THE LARGE VISIBILITY ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AT A GATEWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S REALLY THAT PRECISE LOCATION THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. >> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM 20. >> MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 20 AS PRESENTED. >> I'VE GOT A MOTION BY ED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY BRIAN, OR IT WAS BRIAN ALL OTHERS? ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? >> NAY. >> SORRY. I WAS SAYING SOMETHING. MOTION PASSES 5:1. OH, YOU WERE A NAY ALSO? FORGIVE ME, MOTION PASSES 4:2. WE USUALLY LIKE TO IF THEY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT OF I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THEM, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC A ONE LINER THAT YOU'D WANT TO SAY WHY YOU OPPOSED IT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. >> NO, I AGREE WITH WHAT STEVE SAID. I FRAMED MY CONVERSATION AROUND THE TREE FARM AND NOT WANTED TO SEE THE TREE FARM MOVE, BUT REALLY, IT'S A BIGGER PICTURE IF I WANTED SOMETHING NICER THERE THAN THAN A WAREHOUSE. AS AN ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. >> I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR HIGHER END USES TO COME ALONG ON PROMINENT SITES THAT ARE A GATEWAY TO THE CITY LIKE THIS AND THAT FACE A MAJOR CORRIDOR LIKE 121. >> THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS, [21. Results of the August 20, 2024, City Council meeting.] ITEM 20 HAS BEEN APPROVED. WITH THAT, ITEM 21, RESULT OF THE AUGUST 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> TWO ITEMS. SORRY, NOW IT'S ON. APPROVAL OF THE SUP FOR THE DAY CARE ON COTTON GEN. THAT WAS ORDINANCE APPROVAL. THEN THE TOWN HOME PROJECT ON ROCK CREEK PARKWAY, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL 6:0 WITH THE ADDED SETBACKS THAT P&Z CONDITIONED THE APPROVAL SO NOW BE ON IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE ORDINANCE ADOPTION. NOT MUCH DISCUSSION ON THAT. >> JOHN, JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE WAS NO OTHER ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MADE? IT'S LIKE, GOOD JOB FOR COMMISSIONERS, THEY COME TOGETHER WITH A GOOD SOLUTION. [22. Schedule of future discussion items.] >> ITEM 22, SCHEDULE OF FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS. >> THERE'S ONE ITEM I'M GOING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THE SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING. THIS IS TO CARRY OVER FROM LAST NIGHT WHERE WE HAD THE JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PARKS BOARD, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING. THIS IS TO GET YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS ON WHAT SPAC HAS RECOMMENDED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. WE'VE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME GOING OVER THE USES, SO I'VE ASKED ALL THE OTHER BOARDS TO RESPOND BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO WE'LL SCHEDULE OUR WORK SESSION FOR THE TENTH. >> AFTER OUR MEETING? >> YES, IT WILL BE AFTER THE MEETING. >> WE'RE MAKING SURE WE GET EVERY BIT OUT OF ED AND BRIAN BEFORE THEY LEAVE, SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT. >> CAN I ASK YOU ON THOSE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING SUBMITTED? [00:25:01] WILL THOSE BE SHARED AMONG ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? WHEN ALL OF THEM COME IN TO CHRIS, WILL THEN YOU GUYS TAKE THEM AS IS AND SEND THEM BACK OUT FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW?. >> WE'RE GOING TO SIGN NAMES TO IT, WE'RE GOING TO SAY HERE'S THE COMMENTS. BUT EVERY BOARD IS GOING TO MAKE THEIR OWN COMMENTS. >> YES. THAT'S WHAT I SAID LAST NIGHT. P&Z, AS A BOARD, YOU WILL BE MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL CARRY FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING REGARDING WITH CPAC ON THE LAND USE PLAN, JUST LIKE THE EDC WILL MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, PARKS WILL MAKE THEIR COMMENTS. >> WHAT WAS UNCLEAR WAS WHETHER THE P&ZS COMMENTS WOULD BE SHARED WITH THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND EDC AND VICE VERSA, ALL OF THE COMMENTS FOR MEETING. >> MAYBE AFTERWARDS. BUT NO, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN PARKS IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS, AND EDC WOULD BE TOWARDS THE END AND TRYING TO COORDINATE ALL THAT. I BE HERE'S THE THREE OTHER BOARDS, HERE'S THEIR COMMENTS. >> WE ABSORB THOSE COMMENTS AND LEVERAGE THOSE IN OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE TENTH? >> YES. WE WILL PRESENT WHAT CPAC HAS RECOMMENDED AS FAR AS THE CHANGES ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR Y'ALL'S COMMENTS. >> BUT WE DON'T MAKE COMMENTS UNTIL THAT MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT COMMENTS TO CHRIS OR? >> NO. YOU CAN DO THAT PROVIDE THAT ALL AT THAT MEETING. >> WITH THAT. LAST ITEM? >> WE DO ADJOURN. >> MOTION BY ED. >> SECOND. SECOND BY SEAN, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6:0, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:57 P.M. MR. JOE FITZ, LET ME CATCH YOU FOR TWO SECONDS. >> MOVE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.