ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
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THIS IS NUMBER FIVE.[CALL TO ORDER]
WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRISCO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.WE ARE GATHERED AT 6101 FRISCO BOULEVARD AND THE TIME IS 6:31 P.M.
THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CONSISTS OF FRISCO RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT.
TONIGHT, COMMISSION'S PRESENCE ARE STEVE COHEN, SHAWN MERRILL, BRIAN MORGAN, JAY PETRAS AND BRITTANY COLLBERG, AND MYSELF, JOHN KENDALL. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN INPUT, IF YOU WISH.
I DON'T WANT TO FORGET OUR WONDERFUL STAFF FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE HAVE JOHN LETTELLEIR, JONATHAN HUBBARD, STEPHANIE SCOTT SIMMS, SUSAN PONDER, SYDNEY JACKSON, DANIEL PONDER, JENNIFER MORGAN FROM ENGINEERING JASON GRIMM AND JOEL FITTS.
ALSO, IT WAS A OVER FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS EMILY LESTER LESSNER AND DARRYL BAGLEY FROM FIRE.
WE HAVE JOHN GILLETTE AND ELISA BARSTOW.
OH, ALLISON. ALLISON CHECKED IN, AND ALLISON FROM CITY ATTORNEY.
SO WHERE WERE YOU CALLING FROM? ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN INPUT.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
PLEASE COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED SO PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
PLEASE NOTE THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION DURING CITIZEN INPUT OR ITEMS NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXCEPT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY OR TO INDICATE THAT THE MATTER MAY BE PLACED ON A LATER AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? MOTION BY JAKE.SECOND BY BRITTANYY. THERE'S TWO.
THERE'S TWO. OH, THERE'S. WE HAVE TWO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 7TH AND FEBRUARY 14TH.
I HAVE A MOTION TO DO TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
SO JUST DO. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY SEVEN, 2023.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0.
IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023.
I'D LIKE A SECOND. A SECOND BY STEVE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0.
WITH THAT, NEXT IS CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT ITEMS CONSIST OF ROUTINE AND NON CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS. ANY COMMISSION MEMBERS MAKING SUCH REQUESTS PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS MAY CONSIDER ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO WITH A MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION.WE HAVE ITEMS SIX THROUGH OR THROUGH OR THROUGH FOUR THROUGH 11 TONIGHT, AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS OR ON A CONSENT, I'M SURE.
ARE THERE ANY THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FROM INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? I DO KNOW THAT FOUR OR FIVE AND 11 NEED TO BE PULLED.
SO WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE.
YES. YES. WE NEED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER FIVE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO PULL ITEMS FOUR, FIVE AND 11.
BUT DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS SIX THROUGH TEN? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SIX THROUGH TEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0.
WE WILL NOW GO IN ORDER GOING THROUGH ITEM FOUR.
[4. Final Plat: Park West, Block A, Lot 2R (FP22-0063)]
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S COMMISSIONER COLLINS RECUSE HIMSELF.WITH THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH ITEM FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? DO WE NEED TO READ IT IN? DO HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BRIAN, A SECOND BY SEAN.
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ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES? FOUR ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS.[5. Final Plat: Village on Main Street (FP23-0003)]
YES. LET'S PULL BACK IN.AND THEN I BELIEVE THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP FOR ITEM FIVE.
FP23-0003 OWNERS GBRK EDGEWOOD LLC.
HE GOT IT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
TO THE APPLICANT AND REQUESTING A 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR FINAL PLAT 23-3.
THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED STREET NAMES THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
THE NEXT. THEY NEED TIME TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND RUN IT THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS.
THIS WOULD PUT THEM ON THE MARCH 28TH, P AND Z AGENDA.
THANK YOU. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ITEM WITH THIS WAS JUST HAVE TWO NAMES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED ON THEIR PLAT, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WAS PROPOSED BY CITY STAFF WHICH WOULD APPROVE.
CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO APPROVE 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR CLARITY.
THE AGENDA IS NOT POSTED CORRECTLY, BUT.
BUT ON THIS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO WRONG STREET NAMES THAT WAS DISCOVERED GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THIS IS WHERE THE APPLICANT. AND CHANGE TO STREET NAMES ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY ON STREET NAMES. AND IT WASN'T DISCOVERED HERE UNTIL THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK.
THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT TWO NEW NAMES, BUT THOSE WERE DENIED AS WELL.
THAT'S RIGHT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY BRIAN, A SECOND BY JAKE.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS ON THEIR EXTENSION.
WITH THAT, WE HAVE ITEM 11, I BELIEVE.
[11. Site Plan: Four Corners Shopping Center, Block A, Lot 8 (SP23-0006)]
IF YOU COULD JUST GO OUT AND.WITH ITEM 11 SITE PLAN FOR CORNER SHOPPING CENTER.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 11 A MOTION BY BRIAN.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES? FOUR ZERO. WITH THAT.
[12. Specific Use Permit: Frisco Original Donation, Block 56, Lot 6 (SUP22-0009)]
WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA AND WE HAVE TO HEAR ONE.I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S JUST ISSUE ONE WANTS A PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, SO IT'S SO. YES. THANK YOU.
TONIGHT, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA, AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS.
EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS TO PROCEED BY STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUESTS.
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
THE TIME LIMIT IS 5 MINUTES PER SPEAKER TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME.
REPEAT APPEARANCES TO THE PROGRAM ARE NOT PERMITTED.
AFTER ALL, PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
PLEASE NOTE THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING ZONING CASES UNLESS THE COMMISSION DISAPPROVES THE CASE AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAR AN APPEAL TO DISAPPROVAL.
FINAL ACTION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
WITH THAT I WILL GO INTO ITEM 12.
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LOT SIX.SUE P22-0009 OWNERS 4278 NECK INVESTMENTS LLC.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS CHAIR.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BREWERY.
THE SITE IS ONE OF THREE SUITES IN THE FORD BUILDING, WITH THE OTHER TWO SUITES OCCUPIED BY A RETAIL STORE THAT FRONTS MAIN STREET AND A FITNESS CENTER THAT FRONTS FIFTH STREET.
AND THE SUBJECT SUITE ALSO FRONTS FIFTH STREET.
PER THE SUBMITTED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN IN YOUR BACKUP, THE SITE WILL UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP AS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THERE ARE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES IN THIS PARKING LOT TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THREE USES.
THE TWO EXISTING IN THE ONE PROPOSED THE LOADING ZONE LOCATED TO THE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE THE FORD BUILDING, WHICH IS THERE RIGHT IN HERE THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR DELIVERIES TO THE SITE. THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING HAS REVIEWED A CIRCULATION STUDY AND HAS DETERMINED THAT ALL STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET. THE PROPOSED BREWERY WILL GENERATE WILL GENERATE MORE WEEKDAY TRAFFIC THAN A RETAIL SPACE WOULD, BUT LESS TRAFFIC THAN A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT SUCH AS THE ONE LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS FIFTH STREET TO THE EAST.
THE BREW WILL GENERATE LESS AMP HOUR TRAFFIC THAN THE FITNESS CLUB.
HOWEVER, MORE PEAK TRAFFIC WILL BE GENERATED BY THE BREWERY THEN THE SATURDAY PEAK TRAFFIC AS WELL.
AS OF THIS TIME, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ACCORDING TO THE CONDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR BREWERIES IN THE ZONING CODE, ALL COMPONENTS OF MANUFACTURING, BREWING, BOTTLING, CANNING, PACKAGING AND LABELING SHALL OCCUR COMPLETELY WITHIN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
THE SITE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE APPROVED CIRCULATION PLAN AND THE BREWERY SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE, AS AMENDED AND ANY APPLICABLE LOCAL OPTIONS.
EXCUSE ME. LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN.
AND THE APPLICABLE LOCAL OPTION ELECTIONS, THE BREWERY SHALL OBTAIN ANY OTHER PERMITS AND OR LICENSES AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION FOR ANY ANCILLARY ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON OR OFF PREMISES.
THESE ANCILLARY USES SHALL ALSO COMPLY WITH ALL CITY REGULATIONS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
JUST NEED BE PULLED OFF THE TABLE.
MR. LETTELLEIR. DOES THIS NEED TO BE PULLED OFF THE TABLE? NO, NO, THANK YOU.
BEFORE I INVITE THE APPLICANT UP, IF THEY'RE HERE AND WANT TO SPEAK, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THE MOMENT? YEAH. FERGUS IS THE APPLICANT HERE, AND DO THEY DESIRE TO SPEAK? AND IF YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THEN AFTERWARDS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FILLING OUT A BLUE SPEAKER CARD.
I'M MANDY WEIBEL WITH THREE EMPIRES BREWING COMPANY.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN? PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION BY JAKE.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON, SAYS BRICE.
HUBBARD. COME ON UP AND STILL GIVE A SHIRT.
I KNOW I JUST SAID THE NAME, BUT NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN AND LOVE TO HEAR WHAT SHE HAS.
BRYCE HUBBARD AT SIX, NINE, FIVE, EIGHT OAK STREET ON THE CORNER OF OAK STREET AND FIFTH STREET.
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THAT'S WHERE I LIVE. OR MY RESIDENCES.YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PARKING IT WAS A WAS ENOUGH PARKING AVAILABLE IN THE PARKING LOT NORTH OF THE BUILDING, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING. I MEAN, THERE'S CARS EVERYWHERE JUST FROM THE EXERCISE FACILITY.
AND WE'RE ALREADY GETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF MOVEMENT ON THAT STREET.
SO I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY I'M OPPOSED TO THE BREWERY, BUT I'M MORE SO CONCERNED WITH.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF IT'S ALREADY OVERLOADED WITH WHAT? CARS. NOW, WHERE WOULD PEOPLE PARK? WE'LL LET YOU FINISH WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
SIT DOWN. WE'LL ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE? THAT'S IT. REALLY. JUST MORE SO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION MOTION BY BRITNEY, A SECOND BY JAKE.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW OR AT LEAST I'LL HAVE A QUESTION.
I'LL LET SOMEONE ELSE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
BUT BRITTANY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS I'LL START WITH YOU, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY.
I HAPPEN TO WORK OUT AT THAT GYM.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING SPACE SITUATION.
DO WE? WHAT? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THAT NUMBER IS? AND DOES THIS WHEN I.
WHEN I BALLPARK IT IN MY BRAIN, I THINK THERE'S LIKE 12 TO 14 SPACES.
I COULD BE WRONG. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
RIGHT. IT'S THE REQUIREMENT IS ACTUALLY ON THE PLAN AND I CAN'T SEE IT ON THIS, SO.
31 SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THE FITNESS CENTER.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE OTC DISTRICT, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS AUTOMATICALLY 50% OF WHAT IS REQUIRED. SO WELL.
HOWEVER, THE OTC AUTOMATICALLY HAS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL PARKING IN THE DISTRICT.
SO THERE ARE THEN 15 PARKING SPACES.
RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THERE'S 26, 26 OR 28 SPACES PROVIDED ON THE SIDE.
THEY'VE GOT MORE PARKING AVAILABLE THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I'D LOVE TO ASK A QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT THEN.
HI. HI. I ACTUALLY LIVE IN DOWNTOWN FRISCO, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT AN IDEA OF A BREWERY HERE.
AND I KNOW THIS SPACE IS 1300 SQUARE FEET, BUT HOW MANY PATRONS ARE YOU ALL EXPECTING AT A GIVEN TIME? I THINK OUR SPACE HOLDS 40.
BUT AS FAR AS SEATING GOES, I THINK WE LOOKED AT 40.
YEAH. SO IT'S A SMALLER SPACE.
SO IF THERE WERE 15 PARKING SPACES DEDICATED, I'M TRYING TO DO QUICK MATH AND WE WILL PROBABLY BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY FOR INSIDE OPERATIONS OR BREWING.
SO OUR ACTIVE HOURS ARE MORE THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY AS WELL.
OKAY. AND THEN WHAT? WHAT? OUR TIME FRAME WOULD BE ACTIVE HOURS.
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OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS.OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR A STAFF APPLICANT? PROBABLY BOTH, BUT SORRY TO MAKE YOU GET UP AGAIN, OR I'LL START WITH STEPH.
WAS THE FLOOR PLAN PROVIDED? NO. OKAY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'D BE THERE ALL AT ONCE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THAT COULD BE THEIR THEIR OCCUPANCY, MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WERE THERE ALL THE SAME TIME.
BUT ALSO AN AREA FOR BREWING BEER.
RIGHT. HOW MUCH AREA WOULD THAT ENCOMPASS? IF I MAY SPEAK INDIRECTLY.
THAT'S IT. YOU NEED TO COME UP TO THE MARK.
I SHOULD LIKE THAT. DAVID WIBLE.
THE BREWING AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 200 SQUARE FEET ON THE.
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SUITE.
INCLUSIVE. IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE BREWING PROCESS, A ONE BARREL SYSTEM WITH A CAPACITY OF DOING TWO BARRELS OF BEER AT A TIME, OR IF YOU'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF KEGS 2 TO 4 KEGS AT A TIME, WE'D HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR FERMENTERS.
SO BASICALLY A 200 SQUARE FOOT AREA ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THE ACTUAL BREWING OPERATIONS.
AND YOU HAVE ZERO CONCERN WITH THE SIZE OF THE SPACE AND AND THE THE DEMAND OR THAT BEING ABLE TO HAVE YOUR OPERATION IS IN.
WILL THERE BE A BAR INSIDE OF IT? THERE WILL BE A TASTING AREA INSIDE, YES.
YES. THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR FOR YOU.
BUT I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF OR PROBABLY FOR JOEL.
MR. FITZ. GOT TO ASK HIM ABOUT HIS SISTER.
I KNOW YOU KNOW YOU, BUT YOU TOLD ME ABOUT MISS FITTS.
I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS, AND THEY'RE BOTH MISFITS.
SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE? A SIDEWALK PROJECT? YES, IT IS JUST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MAIN.
YES. IN TERMS OF THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF MAIN STREET IS GOING TO BE.
HAVE THE SIDEWALKS WIDENED AND RECONSTRUCTED AND.
YES, THAT'S ALONG MAIN STREET ITSELF.
BUT THE NORTH SIDE IS NOT GETTING THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT.
AND IT DID HAVE THE STREET DIET A WHILE BACK.
THE SOUTH SIDE IS THE ONLY SIDE GETTING THAT.
SO IN THEORY, THOSE STREET FRONT PARKING SPACES THAT WE HAVE ON MAIN ON THE SOUTH SIDE WILL BE GONE.
WELL, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET, THE SIDEWALKS ARE BEING IMPROVED.
SO YES, THE ON STREET PARKING IS BEING ELIMINATED FROM MAIN STREET.
IT'S BEING MOVED TO ELM STREET.
THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE THING TO MENTION ON OCCUPANT LOAD.
AS YOU GO TO RESTAURANTS, ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE.
I MEAN, THAT'S A CALCULATION THAT'S DONE FOR FAR AND CODE TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT.
COULD BE IN THE BUILDING, BUT SELDOM IS THAT OCCUPANT LOAD IS EVER MET.
SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
YES, GO AHEAD. MAKING BEER TO DO THE NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BREWING THERE? GENERALLY, THERE'S I'LL SAY, SOME FRAGRANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE BREWING PROCESS, THE FERMENTATION PROCESS.
DO THEY HAVE THEY EXPRESSED ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS OR DO YOU HAVE THAT UNDER CONTROL? THE BREWING SYSTEM WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAS A STEAM CONDENSER IN THERE.
HAVE THEY BEEN SPOKEN TO? DO THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS? THEY'RE NOT HERE. I KNOW THEY WERE NOTIFIED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NOTICE.
BUT BEYOND THAT, OTHER THAN THE SUPPRESSION FROM A FROM A CONCERNS FOR PARKING, NOTHING BEYOND THAT.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. FITZ.
I TRIED TO CATCH YOU BEFORE YOU RAN BACK TO YOUR SEAT, BUT.
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YES. NO.MR. FITTS, REGARDING JUST PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AROUND THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE AVAILABILITY TO PARK JUST IN GENERAL IN THIS PART OF DOWNTOWN WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS? SO IN A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT, IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT THAN OUR TYPICAL SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INDIVIDUAL LAND USE DEVELOPING ON A LOT, AND IT HAS TO PROVIDE ITS OWN PARKING ON ITS OWN LOT.
THEY'RE SHARING THE COMBINED AMOUNT OF PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, CALCULATE PARKING DIFFERENT IN DOWNTOWN FOR THAT REASON.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S A PARKING REDUCTION COMPARED TO WHAT A SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.
AND IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, ALSO ASSUMED TO BE SPREAD OUT IN INTERCHANGEABLE.
KNOW YOU'RE EXPECTED TO MAYBE WALK A COUPLE OF BLOCKS IN THE FUTURE.
EVERYONE JUST KIND OF SHARES IN A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT CONCERN BECAUSE AS ONE USE IS BUSY AND ANOTHER ONE'S NOT, THEN THE OTHER ONE BECOMES BUSY AND THEY USE THE SAME PARKING AND JUST KIND OF SHARE ALL DOWNTOWN'S PARKING.
OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. AND JUST A BLOCK OFF ON TO THE WEST.
THERE IS A CITY PARKING LOT THAT'S ON OAK.
AND IS IT FOURTH? I THINK. YEAH, YEAH, FOURTH.
YEAH. BUT THERE'S A CURRENT SURFACE PARKING LOT AT FOURTH AND OAK.
ISN'T THAT A CITY OWNED PARKING LOT? YES, IT IS. AND THEN DOWN AT FOURTH AND ELM THAT CITY PROPERTY AS WELL, SURFACE PARKING.
OKAY. SO BASICALLY ON FOURTH STREET THERE'S BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF MAIN STREET.
THERE'S CURRENTLY CITY PARKING LOTS.
YES. AND WAS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE JUST SAYING, THAT THERE'S OTHER PLACES TO PARK IN THE WITHIN A REASONABLE WALKING DISTANCE? YES. YES.
AND I APPRECIATE THE THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WE'VE SEEN PLACES WHERE WE WE DO THIS IN DOWNTOWNS, BUT THEN SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET OVEREXUBERANT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO WALK AN EXTRA MINUTE.
ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU SPEAK JUST TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OR PARKING ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA? IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE DOUBLE PARKING OR PARKING IN PLACES THAT ARE BOTHERING THE NEIGHBORS, WHAT WOULD WE DO ABOUT THAT? SO, YES, SOMEONE WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT COULD CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER AND THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT OR PARKING ENFORCEMENT TEAM OR CREW. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY THE RIGHT PHRASE, BUT THEY KIND OF THEY PATROL FRISCO SQUARE AND DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS.
BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THE TWO MAIN AREAS THAT THEY KIND OF FOCUS ON.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. DON'T LEAVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
I FREQUENT THAT AREA, SO I SEE EXACTLY WHERE THE PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET.
THAT'S A SIDE NOTE. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS PLANS TO DO TO ACTUALLY PUT NO PARKING OR SOME SORT OF SIGNAGE ON THOSE SIDE STREETS? BECAUSE AT LEAST IN MY EYES RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT I COULD STILL PARK THERE.
THAT TO FOR THEM TO CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER.
YOU CAN PARK ON THE SIDE STREETS IF IT'S NOT POSTED.
NO PARKING. OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN THEN CONTACT THE CITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK CARS SHOULD BE PARKED THERE, AND THEN WE'LL GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, YEAH, THIS IS AN AREA WE SHOULD PUT NO PARKING.
SO THAT CAN BE A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
IF IF PEOPLE ARE HABITUALLY PARKING IN AN AREA THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE TO PARK, AND BECAUSE DOWNTOWN HAS CERTAIN STREETS THAT ARE THEY DON'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER IN SOME PLACES.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE STANDARD.
VERY OBVIOUSLY A PARKING SPACE, BUT YET YOU CAN PARK THERE.
BUT AGAIN, CASE BY CASE BASIS, THERE MIGHT BE SOME REASON WHY.
WELL, IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO PARK OR LET'S PUT UP SOME SIGNS.
SO IT'S IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GIVE A BLANKET ANSWER.
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YOU KIND OF HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH SITUATION.SURE. ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
WE'LL LOOK AT ANYTHING ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN YOU DO POST SIGNS.
THAT APPLIES TO EVERYBODY, CORRECT? YEAH. IF YOU DO, IF WE DO POST, NO PARKING WOULD BE NOBODY COULD PARK THERE.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I ASSUME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPOT WHERE IT'S NOT SAFE TO PARK OR NOT.
IT'S MAYBE IT'S IN THE STREET A LITTLE BIT OR IT'S BLOCKING SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY.
YES. IF WE PUT NO PARKING, IT MEANS NOBODY CAN PARK THERE, INCLUDING THE RESIDENTS.
YEAH. THIS PARTICULAR PLACE THAT I SEE PARKING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE SAME PLACE YOU'RE REFERENCING, BUT IT'S LITERALLY ON FIFTH STREET AND IT'S THE CORNER HOUSE RIGHT THERE. AND EVERYONE JUST KIND OF PARKS ON THE GRAVEL, ON THE PROBABLY TECHNICALLY THEIR PROPERTY, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OFF THE STREET, BUT IT'S JUST TO MAKE ENOUGH ROOM WHEN THE PARKING LOT GETS FULL.
SO. CORRECT. WONDER IF THAT'S THE CONCERN OF THE CITIZENS.
IT'S KIND OF AN OLDER FASHIONED STREET.
SO THAT PROBABLY IS STILL TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY WITH THAT PARKING IS OCCURRING.
SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY AND OR ANY I KIND OF HEARD A FEW DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE THIS COULD OCCUR. THEY COULD THEN REACH OUT TO TRAFFIC AND DISCUSS FUTURE PLANS TO TRY TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME.
TO SEE WHERE FIND OUT WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS.
ARE PEOPLE ACTUALLY PARKING ON THE PROPERTY OR NOT? YES, EXACTLY. AND IT CAN LOOK INTO THIS.
I'M SORRY. I FEEL LIKE I'VE HIJACKED THIS.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T NORMALLY I SHOULDN'T IN THINKING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT AND BEING THAT THE BREWERY WILL BE OPEN AT NIGHTTIME, IS THERE A FUTURE PLAN FOR LIGHTING BACK THERE? FOR LIGHTING BEHIND THE IN THE PARKING LOT? WELL, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
THE PARKING LOT IS NOT PART OF THE REQUEST.
SO BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PLAN FOR LIGHTING BACK THERE.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY? NO, WE ARE NOT AWARE OF IT. WE'RE.
I WASN'T THINKING THAT. THAT PART WASN'T.
I WAS JUST AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING AND THINKING ABOUT EVENING TIME.
SURE. THAT'S WHAT CAME TO MIND.
WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND RESIDENT INPUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR ANSWERS WERE ALL ACCOMPLISHED, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND AS IT'S A FINE LINE OF KNOW, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WHAT I WISH FRISCO WAS MORE VIBRANT AND MORE ACTIVE.
SO BUT WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO BE A HINDER ON YOU, BUT I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND AS WE TRY TO LIMIT THAT PARKING TO ALMOST ENFORCE AND ENFORCE, TO ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, YOUR CONCERN.
SO WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THE APPLICANT I THINK YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MORNING AND DAYTIME DRINKERS BY BY THOSE HOURS. BUT THAT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE IF MISSING OUT ON THAT OPPORTUNITY, WE CAN SPEAK AFTERWARDS.
YES. SPECIFIC HOURS FOR YOURSELF AND WITH WITH MR. FITTS. MY DAUGHTER GOES TO SCHOOL WITH HIS DAUGHTER, AND THEY ARE NOT MISFITS, I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT.
SO I'LL DEFEND THEM WITH THAT.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 12.
ITEM 12 IS SUBMITTED BY STAFF SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BRIAN, A SECOND BY SHAWN.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS BEING A DOWNTOWN FRISCO RESTAURANT.
[13. Public Hearing - Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (ZA22-0006)]
ITEM 13 PUBLIC HEARING ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ZA22-0006 OWNERS CITY OF FRISCO.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
SO I WOULD FIRST LOOK FOR A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE.
MOTION BY JAKE. SECOND, SECOND BY BRIAN.
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ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.THIS ITEM IS REMOVED FROM THE TABLE.
AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE ITEM AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE REQUEST TO THE DOWNTOWN ADVISORY BOARD ONCE AGAIN AT A FUTURE MEETING.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WHAT WAS THAT DATE? MAY 23RD? MAY 23RD.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? HOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO HAVE A MOTION OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO MOVED MOTION BY BRITTANY, SECOND BY JAKE.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN BEHALF OF ITEM 13 RATHER THAN CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? THERE IS A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE MAY 23RD AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO MAY 23RD? MOTION BY BRIAN. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
[14. Results of the February 21, 2023, City Council meeting.]
NOTHING TO ADD. THAT'S TREMENDOUS.15 SCHEDULE OF FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS.
[15. Schedule of future discussion items.]
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE DRAFT AFTER THIS MEETING.SAY, WE SAW EMILY HERE AS A NEW SPECIAL GUEST AND EXCITING.
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I HAVE ONE LAST ITEM.
MOVE TO ADJOURN MOTION BY BRIAN.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO.
WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 708.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.