[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:08] >> FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD IN FRISCO, TEXAS. IT IS 05:00 PM ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2023. I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE'RE ENJOINED BY THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING. I'M GOING TO MOVE US INTO CLOSED SESSION ITEM 2. [CLOSED SESSION] RECESSED INTO CLOSED SESSION AND COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 551.001 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE ITEM A. MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE CITY ATTORNEY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OR THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CONFLICTS WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT REGARDING ONE, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PROPERTY AND FRISCO'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. TWO, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CASE NUMBER SUP 23-0001 AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMONG THE CITY OF FRISCO, FRISCO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, FRISCO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND FTNW CORP REGARDING ECONOMIC INCENTIVES AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS CONCERNING AN OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE. ITEM 3, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT OF SALE BETWEEN THE CITY OF FRISCO, TEXAS. THE FRISCO CDC, AND ALTER CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC. ITEM B, SECTION 551.072, TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ONE, NORTH OF STONEWORK PARKWAY, WEST OF PRESTON ROAD, EAST OF LEGACY, AND SOUTH OF ELDORADO. ITEM C, SECTION 551.087, DELIBERATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT. COUNCIL, CAN I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY JOHN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ANGELIA. ON FAVOR? >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE ARE RECESSED AND EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5:02 PM. JUST SOME HOUSEKEEPING. WE WILL BE COMING BACK AT 05:30 TO START THE JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. THAT'S SEPARATE AGENDA. WE WILL BE BACK DOWN MOMENTARILY. GIVE OUR MEDIA GUY. >> GO AHEAD. >> MOTION BY JOHN, SECOND BY ANGELIA. ON FAVOR. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0 RECONVENED AT 05:39 PM. AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE'S NO ACTION FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE. I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO RECESS INTO OUR JOINT MEETING. >> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY JOHN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY BILL. ON FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE ARE REASSESSING FOR THE JOINT MEETING, WHICH IS A SPECIAL CALL JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE GEORGIA IP FOR MUNICIPAL CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 6101 FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD IN FRISCO, TEXAS. IT IS 05:40 PM, ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2023. I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. JOHN, LOOK FREE TO CALL A MEETING TO. >> YES. LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THIS SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. [INVOCATION] WE USE THE SPECIAL MEETINGS WHEN WE HAVE A CASE IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING. TONIGHT AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE ALL OUR COMMISSIONS HERE. STEVE COHN, SEAN MERRILL, JAKE PETRUS, BRITNEY KOHLBERG, ED KELLY, BRYAN MORGAN, AND MYSELF JOHN KENDALL. TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE ZONE RELATED PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA, AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS. THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS PERCEIVED BY STAFF, INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUESTS. THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED 10 MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION. FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION, THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOMED TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. ALL SPEAKERS, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, NEED TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND PROVIDE THEIR POEM TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE ONE ITEM. NUMBER 2 IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE ON 97.4 ACRES ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND PANTHER CREEK PARKWAY. ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 280 NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 53, SPECIAL USE PERMIT CASE NUMBER SUP 23-001, OWNERS FTNV CORP. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE, SPECIFICALLY A THEME PARK. THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS STAFF COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS AWAITING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT. THEREFORE, TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK THROUGH THOSE STAFF COMMENTS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM TO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 21ST, 2023. >> THANK YOU. JUST WITH THIS BEING A SPECIAL MEETING AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE, JONATHAN, COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH JUST THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO EDUCATE THOSE MIGHT BE NEW TO? [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >> SURE. ALL DEVELOPMENT CASES, INCLUDING THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT IS BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT, [00:05:02] DO GO THROUGH A VERY THOROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS BY MANY OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. SPECIFICALLY, PLANNING, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, CIVIL ENGINEERING, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, PARKS, PUBLIC WORKS, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, LANDSCAPING, AND IN SOME CASES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD HEAVY INVOLVEMENT IN THE REVIEW OF THIS PARTICULAR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WHAT THAT PROCESS REALLY LOOKS LIKE IS ONCE A CASE IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT I JUST MENTIONED COME TOGETHER AND REVIEW A PROJECT FOR THINGS LIKE BUILDING SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHTS, SCREENING, FIRE COVERAGE, CIRCULATION JUST TO NAME A FEW. WE THEN PACKAGE UP ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS. PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT THEN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS STAFF COMMENTS AND REVISE THOSE PLANS. JUST AS I MENTIONED JUST A SECOND AGO, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS CASE. WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED. ONCE ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED AND WE BRING THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BACK, THE APPLICANTS STILL IN THE FUTURE WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH OUR STANDARD PROCESS OF SUBMITTING PRELIMINARY PLANS, PLANTING, AND SO FORTH. >> I APPRECIATE THAT THOROUGH REPORT. WITH THAT SAID, IF THE APPLICANTS HERE, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT. [4. Salvation Army "Red Kettle Mayoral Challenge" Presentation to City Council] >> WELL, HELLO, EVERYBODY. I'D LIKE TO THANK MAYOR, ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE COMMISSIONERS, AND THE CITY STAFF FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS MEETING TONIGHT AND FOR ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. AS YOU KNOW, WE HOPE TO BE BRINGING A UNIQUE NEW CONCEPT HERE TO FRISCO. A PARK DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 10, THEIR PARENTS AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS. THIS WILL BE A SMALL PARK. WE'RE GETTING 97.4 ACRES OF LAND, BUT WE'LL ONLY USE ABOUT A THIRD OF IT TO CREATE A PARK THAT'S ABOUT A FOURTH OF THE SIZE OF OUR BIG PARKS IN ORLANDO OR HOLLYWOOD. THIS IS GOING TO BE A PARK ALL DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN. IT'S GOING TO HAVE 4-5 IMMERSIVE THEME LANDS THAT WILL TAKE PEOPLE INTO THE WORLD OF THEIR BELOVED CHARACTERS. IT WILL HAVE RIDES AND INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCES, ALL THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR AGE GROUP. WILL ALSO HAVE A 300 ROOMS THEMED HOTEL. ALL THIS WILL BE IN A LUSH SHALL LANDSCAPED ENVIRONMENT. I DIDN'T USE MY FULL 10 MINUTES, BUT THAT'S MY INTRODUCTION TO THE PROJECT AND JOHN REYNOLDS TO SAY A COUPLE OF MORE WORDS ON OUR BEHALF. THANK YOU. >> MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE THE TIME. I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND THOUGHT, AND RECOGNIZE YOUR STAFF. THEY HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL. THEY HAVE BEEN THOROUGH, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH A COUPLE OF ITEMS, BUT WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT. IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT DILIGENCE, AND I KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO COME ON IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY PROUD. THAT'S STAFF INPUT IS CRITICAL BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE BUILDING HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR APPROVAL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL, A WORLD-CLASS FACILITY HERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OPERATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU, AND YOUR STAFF LONG AFTER THIS IS OPEN. THAT'S WHERE I COMMEND AS THE HEAD OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS FOR UNIVERSAL PARKS AND RESORTS WORLDWIDE. IT IS OUR INTENT TO WORK ON, AND ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORS BRING UP, AND HAVE RAISED AND CONTINUE TO RAISE AND WE CONTINUE. JUST TODAY, I HAD ANOTHER HALF-AN-HOUR CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS IN COBB HILL. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IN FACT, EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR IN COBB HILL HAS NOW RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ME WITH MY BUSINESS CARD, [CITIZEN INPUT (to begin approximately at 7:30 p.m.)] AND MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE. WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE REALIZING THAT CALL IT. I DO ANSWER IT. I SIT, AND I STAY THE TIME TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. WHY? BECAUSE IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THE LARGEST INVESTMENT MOST PEOPLE MAKE IN THEIR LIFE IS THEIR HOME. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT SERIOUS AS NEIGHBORS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING ON A PRODUCT THAT THEY OUR NEIGHBORS WILL BE PROUD OF AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, AS PAID SAID, WE'RE CREATING AN IMMERSIVE ENVIRONMENT. AN IMMERSIVE ENVIRONMENT IN, AND OF ITSELF, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO ANY OF OUR OTHER PARKS, CREATES AN INWARD FOCUS; LIGHT, SOUND, ALL THOSE ISSUES. BECAUSE FROM THE OUTSIDE, IF THERE'S INTRUSION INSIDE, IT BASICALLY SAYS THE IMMERSIVE PLACE I'VE TAKEN YOU TO, THIS IMAGINARY PLACE IS FALSE. [00:10:02] BUT THAT ALSO SERVES THE OTHER PURPOSE BECAUSE THAT ALSO PREVENTS THE BLEED FROM GOING OFF-SITE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FOCUSED IN. TRANSPORTATION. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOUR FOLKS. THE MAIN ACCESS POINT TO THIS PROPERTY WILL BE OFF OF THE DNT, OFF OF FIELDS. WHY? BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THE VISA MODEL THAT YOUR STAFF HAS LOOKED AT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC FLOW. WE'VE EVEN ALONG PANTHER CREEK, ADDED A BREAKAWAY GATE BETWEEN OUR EMPLOYEE PARKING, AND OUR HOTEL EMPLOYEE PARKING. WHY DID WE DO THAT? TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTRANCE IS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES ALONG FIELDS AND FRISCO, AND THEN ONLY A RIGHT END RIGHT OUT OF THAT EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT ON PANTHER, THEREFORE, MAKING SURE THERE IS LITTLE TO NO IMPACT ON THE COBB HILL RESIDENTS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS WORKED WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. I STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING. WE'VE GOT A PHENOMENAL WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT, AND KNOW THAT EVEN HOPEFULLY ONCE WE RECEIVE OUR APPROVALS, HOPEFULLY, THAT WE'RE NOT DISAPPEARING. WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE MY PERSONAL CELL, SO I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL. WITH THAT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. I WAS INFORMED WE HAVE ABOUT 13 PLUS PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, AND IF THERE ARE OTHERS IN THE STAND THAT HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE TURN INTO A BLUE SPEAKER CARD UP TO KRISTI RIGHT THERE. BUT WE DO HAVE IN CITY ORDINANCE, IF WE HAVE MORE THAN 10, I'LL USUALLY HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE SPEAKING LIMIT, BUT IF IT'S OVER 10, WE CAN HAVE A VOTE TO LOWER THAT TO THREE MINUTES JUST FOR TIME. IS THERE A MOTION TO CHANGE IT TO THREE MINUTES OF SPEAKING? >> CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REDUCE THE SPEAKING TIME LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY BRIAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ED. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? >> NAY. >>> WELL, PASSES 5-1. FOR THE RECORD, STEVE COHN WAS A NAY, AND THE OTHER FIVE WERE A YES. WITH THAT, THE SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. WE'LL KEEP A TIMER GOING. BUT WITH THAT SAID, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> SOLO. >> MOTION BY BRIAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY JAKE ON FAVOR. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING. AS YOUR NAME'S READ, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY UP TO THE PODIUM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> THE FIRST BLUE CARD I RECEIVED IS FIMI CARRIHAN. >> I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE MIC IS A LITTLE TRICKY TONIGHT, SO MAKE SURE YOU LEAN IN AND SPEAK INTO THE MIC. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, FIMI CARRIHAN. 5901 WINDROSE AVENUE, PLANO, TEXAS 75024. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND SUPPORT BRINGING QUALITY, HIGH-QUALITY BUSINESSES AND COMPANIES TO FRISCO. OUR BOYS, FC DALLAS, DR. PEPPER, TIA, PGA, THESE ARE PHENOMENAL NAMES. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I REQUEST TO BE RECOGNIZED A LITTLE LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES SINCE THE FIELD IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF. >> IT IS POSSIBLE AND I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING. WE WILL ADD YOU AN EXTRA TWO MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR EFFORTS ARE VERY RECOGNIZED TO BRING IN THESE COMPANIES, AND NOW UNIVERSAL STUDIOS. PART OF COMCAST CORPORATION, 24TH LARGEST COMPANY, 24TH MOST VALUABLE COMPANY IN THE WORD, CHOOSES THEIR FIRST IN THE WORLD UNIVERSAL KIDS CONCEPT TO BRING IT TO FRISCO. WHAT A STATEMENT. THAT IS, AGAIN, [00:15:04] SHOWING YOUR SUCCESS ATTRACTING THESE COMPANIES TO FRISCO. THANK YOU, AND CONGRATULATIONS. UNIVERSAL, AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMCAST, THEY OWN NBC SPORTS, NBC, CNBC, SKY NETWORK, DREAMWORKS. THE COMPANY IS OWNED BY COMCAST IS UNBELIEVABLE. NOT JUST BRINGING A THEME PARK TO FRISCO, BUT THE PRESTIGE, GLOBAL RECOGNITION, AND THE PUBLICITY THAT COMCAST MEDIA GROUP THAT BRINGS, IMMEASURABLE. YOU CANNOT PUT IN A DOLLAR VALUE TO WHAT COMCAST, AND UNIVERSAL BRING TO THE TABLE. NOW, ABOUT 10 MONTHS AGO, I WAS APPROACHED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF UNIVERSAL. I HAD TO SIGN NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. ONCE I FOUND OUT, I WAS EXCITED TO KNOW GLOBAL BRANDS LIKE UNIVERSAL IS INTERESTED. BUT I WAS TOLD WE WERE COMPETING OTHER SITES IN NEIGHBORING CITIES; PROSPER, SELENA, AND THEY WERE VERY VIGOROUS IN THEIR COMPETITION. MY GOAL WAS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THIS CONCEPT ABOUT. WE DIDN'T JUST AGREE, WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT UNIVERSAL KIDS THEME PARK WILL MEAN. WHAT IT IS, WHAT IS NOT. THE TEAM, UNIVERSAL TEAM PAGE, JOHN AND ENTIRE TEAM HAS BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT. PARTNERS ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION, EVERY CONCERN WE HAD. WE WILL NEVER, THE FIELDS PARTNERSHIP THAT OWNS 2,000 PLUS ACRES WILL SELL PIECE OF LAND UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROUD OF IT, AND UNLESS THEY ARE GOING TO ADD VALUE TO OUR FIELDS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I STOOD HERE FOUR YEARS AGO, AND SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING WORLD-CLASS DEVELOPMENT TO FRISCO, SO WE WOULD HAVE NEVER AGREED TO SELL PIECE OF LAND UNLESS THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. [5. Library Report on monthly statistics and activities.] AGAIN, FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU CHALLENGE ME WHEN YOU GRANTED THE ZONING TO FIELDS THAT YOU SAID FAMOUSLY BRINGING COMMERCIAL USE. BECAUSE YOU, AS THE LEADER OF THE CITY, UNDERSTOOD QUALITY OF OUR SCHOOLS, QUALITY OF OUR STREETS, FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES, WAS GOING TO BE BRINGING THE TAX DOLLAR AND THE COUNCIL TO THEM SAID, WE DON'T WANT OUR RESIDENTS PAY THESE TAXES. WE KNOW WHAT DALLAS LOOKS LIKE POTHOLES AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PICK UP THEIR GARBAGES WE WANT TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES AND ONLY IT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BRING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I NEVER FORGOT. THE FIELD UNIVERSAL BRINGS ONE OF THE BEST TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT BRING TAX DOLLARS, BUT ALSO BRINGING ME INTO OTHER USES TO FIELDS DEVELOPMENT. NOW, BASICALLY I HEARD LIKE ANYONE ELSE THEY KNOW IS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT. I LIKED TO ADDRESS THAT FEW MINUTES, IF I MAY. I HAD THIS PHOTO FROM LEGACY WEST DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S THE 1982 PHOTO. I LIKE TO PUT THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I GUESS IT'S PUSHED THIS. NO, THE OTHER WAY. SO 40 YEARS LATER, LET'S LOOK AT THESE. 1982, 2022 IS UNBELIEVABLE. EVERYBODY IS PROUD OF TOYOTA LEGACY WEST MIXED USE. I STILL HAVE TWO MINUTES OR IS IT DONE? >> ONE MINUTE. >> ONE MORE MINUTE. WELL, MY POINT WAS PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THIS AREA 40 YEARS, THEY HAD NO TRAFFIC AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE TRAFFIC BUT WE ARE FORTUNATE TO LIVE IN TEXAS. WE ATTRACT COMPANIES, WE CONTINUE TO ATTRACT COMPANIES, AND BUREAUCRACY OF CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS, AND NEW YORK BRINGS US THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE GREAT COMPANIES AND TOYOTA'S AND J.P. MORGAN CHASE, [6. Parks and Recreation report on activities related to arts, culture, events, park development and operations, natural resources, and recreation services.] LIBERTY MUTUAL, ALL OF WHICH WERE PROUD, BRING JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES OBVIOUSLY BRINGS THE DEMAND ON HOUSING, WE GROW. FORTY YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME HERE, BELT LINE WAS A DIRT ROAD. THERE WAS AN TOLL WAY EXCEEDING BEHIND 635. THE MORAL STORY IS THAT FOLKS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE THERE. THAT'S THE GROWTH WE CHOOSE TO LIVE IN NORTH TEXAS, MOST SUCCESSFUL PART OF OUR COUNTRY. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. I HAVE A LOT TO SAY, BUT I'M RUNNING OUT. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL, BUT I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW EXCITED I AM. UNIVERSAL KIDS THEME PARK BEING PART OF THE FIELDS. [00:20:03] THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY OFFER, SINCE WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA AND THEY JUST ALL GOT LUMPED INTO THIS ONE ITEM. I WOULD OFFER, WE JUST GO AHEAD AND EXTEND THE FULL FIVE MINUTES TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK. >> I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. JUST WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL, BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE. I JUST WANTED TO BE IN TINE. IF IF COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH THAT. DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AGAIN TOO? >> A MOVE TO EXTEND THE PUBLIC SPEAKING TIME BACK TO FIVE-MINUTES FOR THE SIDE OF. [7. Engineering Services Monthly Report on planning, design, and construction of roadways, traffic control, water utilities, parks, and trails.] >> MOTION BY BRIAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY STEVE. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> [OVERLAPPING] AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. [NOISE] NEXT. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN LANDON. >> MAYOR. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? THERE YOU GO. MY NAME IS JOHN LANDON. I LIVE AT 2200 WILLOW BEEN PLANO, TEXAS. THE NAME OF MY COMPANIES ARE LANDON HOMES AND LANDON DEVELOPMENT. I'M IN BUILDING HOMES AND DEVELOPING LAND IN FRISCO FOR 25-30 YEARS. MY TWO MOST RECENT BIG PROJECTS HAVE BEEN THE GATED COMMUNITIES OF RICH WOODS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS LEXINGTON. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT EARLIER THIS SPRING WE STARTED WORKING WITH FEMI AND HIS TEAM ON BUYING THE PLANT LAND THAT IS JUST ADJACENT TO THE UNIVERSAL PROPERTY CALLED EAST VILLAGE IN THE FIELDS PROJECT. WHEN HE STARTED WORKING WITH UNIVERSAL, HE WAS VERY TRANSPARENT TO TELL ME THAT THEY WERE TALKING TO THEM AND WANTED TO KNOW MY INPUT ON HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. SO AT FIRST, NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT A THEME PARK BRINGS, I WAS CONCERNED BEING A DEVELOPER AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT MY HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD BE ULTIMATELY BUYING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I MET WITH UNIVERSAL PEOPLE. WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC, NOISE, HOURS OF OPERATION, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY WERE VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH. THEY GOT ALL MY CONCERNS. I GOT COMFORTABLE WITH ALL MY CONCERNS, AND WE DID MOVE FORWARD TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY IN DECEMBER OF '22, AND SO WE WILL BUILD ANOTHER QUALITY COMMUNITY AND YOUR WONDERFUL CITY OF FRISCO. SO WE'LL BUILD ABOUT 800 HOMES JUST ADJACENT TO THE UNIVERSAL KIDS ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, [8. Public Works Monthly Report on water production, service requests, and storm water updates.] AS WELL AS ANOTHER 380 HOMES JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TOLL ROAD. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT UNLESS WE GOT VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THEY WOULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND I WANT TO JUST LASTLY FINISHED BY SAYING THAT I DO APPLAUD ALL YOU LEADERS HERE FOR WORKING WITH THEM AND BRINGING WHAT I THINK IS AN EXCITING DEVELOPMENT TO CITY OF FRISCO FOR ALL THE CITIZENS TO USE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS DAN HUNT. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME, AND I NEED TO STATE MY ADDRESS 9200 WORLD CUP WAY, JUST ACROSS THE STREET HERE. I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU, FIRST-OFF FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF FC DALLAS. IT WAS AN AMAZING BLESSING WHEN WE WIND UP PICKING FRISCO, TEXAS AND MY FATHER LAMAR WORKING WITH GEORGE PUREFOY, AND THAT DREAM COMING TRUE OF BUILDING TOYOTA STADIUM AND TOYOTA SOCCER CENTER. THE GROWTH HERE IN FRISCO HAS BEEN UNBELIEVABLE. AS YOU SEE THE PGA TOUR COME HERE AND THE STAR AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING A FIRST-CLASS THEME PARK TO FRISCO, TEXAS WITH A GLOBAL PARTNER AND UNIVERSAL THAT IS WORLD RENOWNED. TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, TO HAVE THAT ASSOCIATION TO BRING THAT. I THINK BACK TO MY FATHER LAMAR, BUILDING WORLDS OF FUN AND OCEANS OF FUN THEME PARKS AND KANSAS CITY AND WHAT THAT MEANT TO THAT COMMUNITY AND HOW THAT ALSO HELPS PUT KANSAS CITY ON THE MAP. SO WE'RE SITTING HERE TODAY WITH THIS UNBELIEVABLE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING A THEME PARK THAT WILL BENEFIT THIS COMMUNITY IN WAYS I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER DREAM. WHEN WE STARTED HERE WITH FC DALLAS, WE STARTED WITH 440 EMPLOYEES AND A FLEDGLING SOCCER LEAGUE THAT WAS JUST STARTING TO GROW. TODAY WE ARE ATTRIBUTED TO ALMOST 500 FULL-TIME JOBS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT NORTH OF $100 MILLION. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT UNIVERSAL WILL BRING IN THE ADDITIVE BENEFIT OF THIS, TRULY THE ADAGE OF ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS TWO IS NOT APPLICABLE HERE. I THINK UNIVERSAL WILL BENEFIT NOT ONLY ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, BUT THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY, AND OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THE INVOLVEMENT OF HUNT CONSOLIDATED IN THIS ALONG WITH THIAMINE AND UNIVERSAL. [00:25:04] THESE ARE THREE FIRST-CLASS ORGANIZATIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A PRODUCT ON THE GROUND THAT I THINK WILL BE WORLD-RENOWNED. SO WE HEAR IT FC DALLAS OR IN SUPPORT VERY MUCH OF WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THIS COMMUNITY, [9. Council Subcommittee reports for current activities of the Legislative Committee, Governance Committee, Budget and Audit Committee, Frisco Square Management District, Dallas Regional Mobility Commission, North Central Texas Emergency Preparedness Committee, Frisco Veterans Advisory Committee, North Texas Commission, and Regional Transportation Council.] I THINK IT WILL CONTINUE TO CEMENT FRESCOES LEGACY AS ONE OF THE GREAT CITIES IN AMERICA, AND I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT FOR ALL CITIZENS AND IT WILL HELP CONTINUE TO GROW THIS GREAT CITY. THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS JEFF SMITH. [NOISE] >> WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON JEFF, WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN THE SUPER BOWL ON SUNDAY IF IT CAN'T BE THE COWBOYS IT'S OFTEN THE CHIEFS. [APPLAUSE] [LAUGHTER]. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEFF SMITH. I LIVE ON FOR 417 WESTLAKE COURT, COPPELL. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE OMNI PGA FRISCO RESORT, AND I'M ALSO A PROUD BOARD CHAIR OF VISIT FRISCO. I'D LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, MEN AND WOMEN, ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY LEADERSHIP, CITY MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO JUST FIRST SAY, I CANNOT GIVE YOU MY HIGHEST ENOUGH RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. AS IT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE STAR AND THE COWBOYS AND FC DALLAS AND THE PGA MOVING HERE, AND AND JUST BUSINESS IN GENERAL, [CONSENT AGENDA] THE TRAJECTORY OF FRISCO HAS BEEN JUST MONUMENTAL SINCE 2000, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. THIS PROJECT WILL TAKE THE TRAJECTORY OF FRISCO TO WHOLE NEW LEVEL, AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, OFTENTIMES IT'S JUST TALKED ABOUT IN ECONOMIC TERMS, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU THINK ABOUT THAT CHILD THAT'S UNDER 10 YEARS OLD, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE MEMORIES OF THIS EXPERIENCE IN [LEGISLATIVE AGENDA] THAT BEAUTIFUL UNIVERSAL PROJECT AND THEY'RE GOING TO REMEMBER IT WAS IN FRISCO, TEXAS. FOR THAT, I THINK YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT IN A HUMAN TERM, NOT JUST THE BUSINESS TERM OR A CITY TERM. I'D LIKE YOU TO JUST REFLECT ON THAT, PLEASE. I'M OFTEN ASKED IF THIS IS A COMPETITION FOR THE RESORT THAT WE'RE BUILDING TWO MILES AWAY AND WILL OPEN IN 86 DAYS, AND I'D LIKE TO THINK OF THIS MORE AS SIBLINGS. GRANDMA MIGHT VISIT ONE SIBLING FOR ONE HOLIDAY, AND THEN GRANDMA IS GOING TO VISIT THE OTHER SIBLING ON ANOTHER HOLIDAY. BUT GUESS WHAT? WE'RE A FAMILY AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCES TOGETHER. [21. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) and an Alternative Compliance Standard for number of building stories, for a mini warehouse/self-storage facility on one lot on 8.0± acres on the northwest corner of Frisco Street and Research Road. Zoned Commercial-1. Neighborhood #46. Specific Use Permit Case No. SUP22-0006. Applicant: Fred Gans. (Development Services/JH)] THE HALO EFFECT OF THIS PROJECT AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR TOURISM AND SPECIFICALLY THE GROWTH OF FRISCO IS IMMEASURABLE IN MY MIND. FINALLY, IT'S OFTEN SAID, HIGH TIDES RAISE ALL BOATS, RIGHT? WELL, FRISCO IS THE TIDE, THIS PROJECT IS A CRUISE SHIP. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TO YOU. I THINK THIS PROJECT WILL BE AMAZING. THANK YOU. >> JEFF, REAL QUICK, SPEAKING OF PARTNERSHIPS, SO I UNDERSTOOD ANGELIA WAS TELLING ME, YOU HOSTED AT A JOB FAIR AT UNT FRISCO TODAY. I HEARD IT WAS OVERWHELMING SUCCESS. OVER 500 JOBS FILLED, IS THAT CORRECT? >> CORRECT. ACTUALLY, IT WAS LAST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. WE HAD OUR FIRST JOB FAIR FOR THE OPENING OF THE RESORT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT WE WILL OPEN THE OMNI PGA FRISCO RESORT AT FIELDS RANCH ON MAY 2ND. WE WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF UNT AND THE NEW COLLEGE, OBVIOUSLY THE UNT CAMPUS HERE IN FRISCO, THEY ALLOWED US TO USE THEIR THEIR CAMPUS. YES, WE HIRED 507 PEOPLE LAST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY ON TOP OF THE 150 WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE TEAM. WE'RE UP TO 650 AND WE NEED TO GET TO 1,000 POSITIONS WHEN WE OPEN THE RESORT IN 86 DAYS. YEAH, IT'S BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS, AND AGAIN, WHAT A GREAT TESTAMENT TO FRISCO, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR BUSINESS, BUT QUALITY OF LIFE AND PEOPLE'S HAPPINESS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. >> NEXT TO SPEAK IS MELINDA PRESTON. >> MY NAME IS MELINDA PRESTON. I LIVE AT 13370 BAY FIELD DRIVE HERE IN FRISCO. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 19 YEARS. I WAS FIRST TO HAND IN MY CARD TONIGHT. YOU PUT FOUR MEN IN FRONT OF ME THAT ALL REALLY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU HAD SOMEONE FROM LAND AND HOMES, PGA, YOU HAD OMNI, [00:30:01] AND YOU HAD THE FIELDS, AND I'M A RESIDENT. I AM A RESIDENT. [APPLAUSE] ONE OF THEM WAS A RESIDENT. WAS THE TWO OF YOU WERE RESIDENT? I ONLY SAW ONE. I AM A RESIDENT. HERE'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU TONIGHT. BY THE WAY, THANK YOU, MAYOR CHENEY, FORGIVING US FIVE MINUTES. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS. BASICALLY, I MOVED TO FRISCO BECAUSE IT WAS A QUIET COMMUNITY 19 YEARS AGO. I HAVE SEVEN CHILDREN, WANTED TO RAISE MY CHILDREN HERE. I LOVE MY TOWN AND I HAVE LOVED IT. NEVER MOVED FROM MY HOME BECAUSE I LOVE MY HOME. TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE YEARS. I LIVE OFF OF PANTHER CREEK UNTIL THE TRAFFIC WILL OBVIOUSLY INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY IN THAT AREA. TWO OF MY DAUGHTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, THREE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 380 AND IT USUALLY TAKES ME 30 TO 40 MIN TO GET TO THEIR HOUSE, AND THEY ONLY LIVE 5.8 MILES DOWN THE ROAD. MY HUSBAND CAN RUN FASTER THAN I CAN DRIVE THERE. THAT IS INSANE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO TO AT THIS MUCH SLOWER PACE AND GIVE RESIDENTS ENOUGH TIME TO SEE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, TRAFFIC STUDY, CRIME STUDY, AND TO CONSIDER AND SEE IF WE TRULY HAVE THE WORKFORCE TO SUPPORT SUCH A LARGE ENDEAVOR. I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, NOT FROM MY CITY COUNCIL OR EVEN OUR LOCAL NEWSPAPER, I FOUND OUT ABOUT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS COMING TO FRISCO FROM ONE OF MY SONS WHO WAS IN VIETNAM. HE SAW IT IN THE NATIONAL NEWS AND SENT ME AN ARTICLE. IT SAID THAT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS WAS COMING TO FRISCO. IT DIDN'T SAY THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT FRISCO, IT SAID IT WAS A DONE DEAL. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD UNIVERSAL STUDIOS FEEL SO CERTAIN THAT IT WAS A DONE DEAL AND THEY WERE DEFINITELY COMING TO FRISCO. LET'S SLOW DOWN THIS MADNESS AND GIVE EVERYONE A SECOND JUST TO BREATHE. I AM NOT SAYING THIS ISN'T A BAD IDEA, JUST SAYING THAT WE, THE CITIZENS NEED MORE ANSWERS AND TRANSPARENCY. IF THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR OUR CITY NOW, IT WILL BE A GOOD PROJECT FOR FRISCO AND THREE TO SIX MONTHS. WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE-THIRD OF THAT PROJECT RIGHT THERE, AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE FOR NINE AND UNDER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER TWO-THIRDS OF THAT PROJECT HOLD AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROMISES. ARE THE OTHER TWO-THIRDS OF THE LAND THAT THEY OWN, IS IT STILL GOING TO BE FOR NINE AND UNDER OR ARE WE GOING TO BUILD OUT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS LIKE THE OTHER UNIVERSAL STUDIOS AROUND THE UNITED STATES? THESE ARE CONCERNS WE HAVE. AGAIN, I AM A RESIDENT OF FRISCO. THIS IS MY HOME. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT WE HAVE VALERIE WOOD. >> HELLO. I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THESE BEFORE, SO I DO NOT KNOW WHO TO THANK, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY SIX-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, ADDISON, BECAUSE SHE HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WILL NOT STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. THIS IS ALL I'VE HEARD FROM HER SINCE WE TOLD HER THAT IT COULD BECOMING AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY THRILLED. WE ARE AVID PARK GOERS, WE GO TO FLORIDA TWO, SOMETIMES THREE TIMES A YEAR. I'M LOOKING BACK AT MY HUSBAND, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT HERE IN FRISCO. WHILE WE DID THE MEET AND GREAT, HE WAS LIKE, OH, YEAH, TWO TO THREE TIMES, I WAS LIKE OH, A MONTH? YES. YOU WERE TALKING A YEAR, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I WAS LIKE, OH, WE'LL BE THERE. BUT THE AMOUNT OF MEMORIES WE CAN MAKE WITH HER, SHE'S SIX NOW, SHE'LL BE LIKE RIGHT ON THE TEAR WHEN IT HAPPENS, BUT EVEN JUST THINKING BEYOND THAT, HER ABILITY TO GET A JOB HERE, THE DOORS THAT THAT COULD OPEN FOR HER AS OPPOSED, TO FRISCO'S GREAT AND ALL, BUT THIS IS MAJOR FOR HIGH SCHOOL AGE KIDS WHO WILL BE ABLE TO GET A JOB AT, NOT A RESTAURANT, FAST FOOD CHAIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO JUST THINKING INTO THE FUTURE HOW AMAZING THIS PROJECT WILL BE. I'M JUST REALLY HERE FOR HER. I THINK THIS IS JUST SO COOL, SO AMAZING, I LITERALLY THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE MESSING WITH ME WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT AND I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE IT COULD ACTUALLY COME THROUGH TO FRISCO. I'VE LITERALLY BEGGED MY HUSBAND SEVERAL TIMES TO MOVE BACK TO FLORIDA BECAUSE I MISS THE PARKS AND WHAT THAT OFFERS AND I SEE PEOPLE [00:35:01] ONLINE WHO ARE POSTING JUST TAKING THEIR KIDS THERE IN THE AFTERNOON, AND I'VE JUST NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE ANYTHING LIKE THAT HERE IN FRISCO. WE HAVE SOME AMAZING PARKS, AMAZING OUTDOOR SPACES, AND THEN THIS JUST FEELS LIKE IT ROUNDS OUT EVERYTHING FOR YOUR FAMILIES. WE WOULD JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU GUYS SAID YES AND HAVE IT COME HERE. THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU END WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? >> OH, SORRY. VALERIE WOOD. I'M AT 3515, SEVILLA DRIVE, FRISCO, TEXAS 75034. WE ARE NINE MINUTES AWAY, BUT I'VE ALREADY ASKED IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE FIELDS. >> NEXT I HAVE DELIA MCCLENDON. I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECT. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY. NEXT IS DAVID LEE. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M ALSO A FIRST TIMER, SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE. SINCE THE NEWS OF THE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS THEME PARK BEING PLANNED IN FRISCO, VERY CLOSE TO WHERE I LIVE, I'VE HAD MY OWN BACK-AND-FORTH TRYING TO WEIGH IN THE BENEFIT AND THE RISK. I'VE READ NUMEROUS COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT ON COMMUNITY FORUMS AND SPOKEN TO MY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT I'VE MADE OVER THE 13 YEARS I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY. BY THE WAY, MY ADDRESS IS 3176 VIZCAYA LANE IN FRISCO, TEXAS. WHILE THE CASE CAN BE MADE FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND CRIME AND ECONOMIC GROWTH AND GAINS AND EVERYTHING, I'VE COME TO REALIZE THAT THIS PROJECT SIMPLY COMES DOWN TO WHETHER IT IS REALLY FOR OUR RESIDENTS OR FOR THE OUTSIDERS, AND I JUST DO NOT SEE THIS PROJECT BENEFITS OUR RESIDENTS MORE THAN IT BENEFITS TOURIST AND TRANSIENT TRAFFIC VISITORS. I ASKED MY FELLOW RESIDENTS THESE QUESTIONS; HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU REALLY VISIT THIS THEME PARK? TWICE? EVERY MONTH? ONCE A MONTH FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR? HOW ABOUT THIS, WHAT WOULD THIS THEME PARK ACHIEVE FOR YOU THAT AN UPSCALE RETAIL LIKE LEGACY WEST OR THE LIKES OF FASHION ISLAND AND NEWPORT BEACH CAN BRING? I ONLY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I'VE READ SO MANY FOLKS FROM CALIFORNIA VOICING THEIR OPINION ON SOCIAL MEDIA; SHOULDN'T WE PUT OUR LIFESTYLES AND WELL-BEINGS FIRST RATHER THAN TOURISM VALUE OR VISITORS FROM EVERYWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE GREAT CITY? THAT IS MY TWO CENTS SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT I HAVE JACKIE WAKIN. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JACKIE WAKIN, I RESIDE AT 5938 INDIAN BLANKET DRIVE IN FRISCO, 75036. I WANT TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND ON BEHALF OF WE, THE RESIDENTS. I LEARNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT ON JANUARY 11TH AS MOST EVERYONE DID. I DON'T FEEL THE CITY HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT AND I BELIEVE THE CITIZENS WILL BE IMPACTED BY A DESERVING OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT. I STAND OPPOSED TO UNIVERSAL. THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE RON PRUSINSKI. >> MY PHONE? >> TIME IS UP. [LAUGHTER] >> HEY, RON PRUSINSKI, I LIVE AT 5858 GALLANT RUN IN COBB HILL. AGAIN, WE'RE PART OF THE GROUP THAT HEARD ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY 11TH, NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER OR A CARD THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. SOME OF THEM HEARD ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK. I'M NOT ON FACEBOOK. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HEARD ABOUT THIS ON JANUARY 11TH. MY WIFE WENT TO THE PLANNING OR THE QUESTIONNAIRE THING YESTERDAY, SHE HAD A REAL GOOD TALK WITH LAURA AND THEN UNIVERSAL CAME UP AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW PANTHER CREEK WAS GOING TO HAVE A WALKWAY AND SOME OTHER THINGS GOING ON. WE DON'T THINK THAT PANTHER CREEK IS DEVELOPED. WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER WAS THE TRAVEL OR THE TRAFFIC IN AND [00:40:04] OUT OF THE PARK IS GOING TO BE MORE ON DNT AND THE FRISCO'S STREET FIELDS WAY ON THE BACK, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BULLETIN OUT THERE, YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ENTRANCES ALONG PANTHER CREEK. FOR US BEING IN COBB HILL, THAT'S CONCERNING. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW YOU LOOK AT ELDORADO BEING THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE, WE KNOW THAT PANTHER CREEK IS GOING TO EXPAND, IT'S GOING TO GO TO UNT AND PRESTON AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO ALLEVIATE THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE. THERE IS NO IMPROVEMENT MENTIONED ON ANY OF THESE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, SO WHAT USED TO PLAN AS PROPERTY LIKE LEGACY OR WHAT WE SAW OF OUR STONE BAR, IT'S NOW A THEME PARK. THAT'S ONE CONCERN. >> I TOOK CARE OF THAT. THE OTHER THING, YOU TALKED ABOUT STAR FC DALLAS AND WHAT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOP, I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT. THE PGA, FANTASTIC. THE ONE THING THE PGA BRINGS IS HOUSES, BECAUSE YOU PUT HOUSES AROUND A GOLF COURSE. YOU DON'T PUT HOUSES AROUND UNIVERSAL STUDIO, OR WHATEVER IT IS. YOU CAN LOOK AT ANY OF THE FAILED PARKS OUT THERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW. I STAND IN OPPOSITION ALONG WITH MY FAMILY, AND WE JUST NEED MORE TIME, BECAUSE THIS WAS DUMPED ON US A MONTH AGO. WE HAD NO IDEA, NOBODY CAME OUT AND SAID, HEY, KNOCKING ON OUR DOORS, OR UNIVERSAL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN NEXT DOOR, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? WE HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT. THE OTHER THING, AND I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS, WHEN WE MOVED TO FRISCO, THE TAGLINE WAS SPORTS CITY USA, WHAT SPORT IS THIS? THIS IS NOT A SPORT. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT, WE HAVE SHANDA EVANS. >> WELL, IF NOTHING ELSE, UNIVERSAL, THIS TOPIC HAS AT LEAST TAUGHT PEOPLE ABOUT CITY GOVERNMENT AND GETTING INVOLVED, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD. BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT WE LOVE, I THINK IT TAKES ALL OF US TO BE INVOLVED. I'M SHANDA EVANS. I LIVE AT 4267 BAL HARBOR, 75033. MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN 2020, BUT WE MOVED TO TEXAS IN 2011. OUR FIRST STOP IN TEXAS WAS SAN ANTONIO. WE LOVED SAN ANTONIO, BUT I ALWAYS HAD MY EYE ON FRISCO, BECAUSE I KNEW MY HUSBAND'S COMPANY WOULD EVENTUALLY BRING US HERE. I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SCHOOLS I WANTED MY KIDS TO GO TO, I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD I WANTED TO LIVE IN, AND SURE ENOUGH WHEN WE MOVED HERE IN 2020, I GOT MY WISH. I LOVE LIVING HERE, I LOVE OUR SCHOOLS, I LOVE OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S SAFE. IN-BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO AND FRISCO, WE LIVED IN CALIFORNIA FOR THREE YEARS. WHAT WAS AMAZING TO ME WHEN WE MOVED TO FRISCO, BECAUSE THIS DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN IN SAN ANTONIO, BIKES AREN'T LOCKED UP AT THE SCHOOLS, BIKES AREN'T LOCKED UP AT THE HOMES, GARAGES CAN SIT OPEN, KIDS PLAY OUT IN THE STREETS, IT'S AMAZING. WE DID NOT HAVE THAT IN SAN ANTONIO, WE ALSO DID NOT HAVE THAT IN CALIFORNIA. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO'S VISITING CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW, AND HE POSTED THIS, HE SAID, "CALIFORNIA IS SUCH A GREAT STATE TO VISIT. THEY'VE REALLY HAD TO WORK HARD TO MAKE IT A PLACE NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE." I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A PLACE THAT NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE. THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH UNIVERSAL COMING HERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST UNIVERSAL. I ATTENDED THE MEETING ON SATURDAY, THE MEET AND GREET, AND THERE WAS A CASINO REPRESENTATIVE THERE THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT COMING TO FRISCO, AND THAT MADE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNEW, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THIS UNTIL I WENT HOME AND TALKED TO MY HUSBAND. CURRENTLY IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THERE IS A BILL TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW CASINOS TO COME TO TEXAS. UNIVERSAL, STEP 1, WHAT'S STEP 2? WHAT ELSE ARE WE GOING TO HAVE COME HERE? BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT SAID IN THE NEWS WHEN I SAW THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT UNIVERSAL, THAT WE WANT FRISCO TO BECOME A DESTINATION LOCATION. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, WE LEFT CALIFORNIA AS FAST AS WE COULD. THE CRIME THERE IS TERRIBLE, THE SCHOOLS THERE ARE TERRIBLE, THE TRAFFIC THERE IS TERRIBLE, AND THAT IS NOT WHERE I WANT TO LIVE. I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH BECAUSE AT THE SATURDAY MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT CRIME AND UNIVERSAL. THIS IS CALIFORNIA, [00:45:02] THIS IS UNIVERSAL STUDIOS, SEE THAT DARK RED, THAT'S CRIME. THAT'S THE CRIME SURROUNDING UNIVERSAL STUDIOS. I ALSO HAVE BURBANK ON HERE, BECAUSE THAT FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T WANT TO PRINT. IT'S ONE OF THESE. WELL, HERE, I'VE GOT THIS ONE FIRST. THIS IS UNIVERSAL IN FLORIDA. THAT DARK BLUE REPRESENTS CRIME. THAT'S UNIVERSAL RIGHT THERE. WHEN WE'RE HEARING THIS TALE THAT, OH, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE CRIME INSIDE THE PARK, WELL, CLEARLY THERE'S CRIME INSIDE THE PARK. BUT MORE CONCERNING, LOOK AT THOSE RED, THAT'S THE CRIME OUTSIDE THE PARKS. I LIVE ABOUT A MILE FROM WHERE THIS IS TAKING PLACE. THIS IS FRISCO, THIS IS LEGACY WEST, YOU CAN SEE WHERE CRIME TENDS TO GATHER, THIS IS WHERE UNIVERSAL'S GOING TO GO. CURRENTLY, IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF CRIME. I LIVE HERE, I HAVE LITTLE CHILDREN, I HAVE TEENAGERS. WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THE WAYS IN GOOGLE AREN'T GOING TO DIVERT THE TRAFFIC THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN MY KIDS ARE TRYING TO PULL OUT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TEENAGERS, RETURN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT'S TERRIFYING TO WATCH THEM PULL OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MADE A RULE FOR MY DAUGHTERS, IF YOU'RE NOT OUT THE DOOR BY 08:30, I'M DRIVING YOU. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM STUCK IN THE TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL, I WANT THEIR SAFETY. ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I'VE HAD WITH ALL OF THIS, WAS MY CHURCH MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW WORSHIP CENTER HERE, AND THE FIRST THOUGHT I HEARD WAS FRISCO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS HERE. THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE FRISCO, THEY CHOSE PROSPER AND I THOUGHT, WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY CHOOSE PROSPER OVER FRISCO? THAT'S WHEN I LEARNED THAT APPARENTLY THERE WAS A DECISION MADE NOT TO BUILD ANY MORE CHURCHES IN FRISCO, WHICH IS SO DISAPPOINTING, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A GREAT PLACE, THERE'S GOOD VALUES HERE. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN A CASINO, OR UNIVERSAL, OR WHATEVER ELSE DECIDES TO COME OUR WAY, AND I WANT KEEP THOSE STRONG FAMILY MORALS AND FAMILY VALUES IN FRISCO. ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD BUILD IN THAT LOCATION, BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT COULD GO THERE, WE HAVE ONE FOOTBALL STADIUM FOR 12 HIGH SCHOOLS. YES, WE CAN USE TOYOTA, YES, WE CAN USE A STAR, BUT ONE FOOTBALL STADIUM. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE TEENAGERS AND HAVE TO DO A THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME WHERE THEY DON'T COME HOME UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK AND HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY, IT'S A NIGHTMARE. I HAVE A SENIOR GRADUATING THIS YEAR, WE'RE HAVING A SHARE THE STAR WITH 12 HIGH SCHOOLS, IT TAKES THREE DAYS TO DO GRADUATION. WHY CAN'T WE INVEST IN OUR FAMILIES AND ON WHAT REALLY MATTERS TO US, RATHER THAN UNIVERSAL STUDIOS? TO THAT POINT, IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SPORTS TO THE USA, I HAVE A DAUGHTER ON THE SWIM TEAM. AT HER HIGH SCHOOL, SHE SAYS THAT WHEN SHE'S PRACTICING BECAUSE THERE'S TWO POOLS, BUT THERE ARE 12 HIGH SCHOOLS THAT SHARE THOSE TWO POOLS, THERE ARE EIGHT GIRLS IN A LANE SWIMMING. THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANT, IF IT'S SPORTS CITY USA. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> I WILL JUST CLEAR UP TWO THINGS FOR YOU REAL QUICK, IS THERE HAS BEEN NO VOTE IN THE CITY OF FRISCO TO STOP CHURCHES. IN FACT, THEY'RE PROTECTED UNDER STATE LAWS. THERE'S QUITE A FEW CHURCHES BEING BUILT IN FRISCO RIGHT NOW AND EXPAND IN FRISCO, SO THAT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE RUMOR THAT YOU HEARD THERE. I CAN SAY THAT AT LEAST MYSELF HAS NOT BEEN APPROACHED BY ANY CASINO, SO I DON'T WANT THOSE RUMORS FLOATING OUT THERE EITHER. >> NEXT, I HAVE BECKY LAGRONE. >> HI. >> I'M BECKY LAGRONE. I LIVE AT 13608 FALL HARVEST DRIVE IN FRISCO 75033. I HAVE A LOT TO COVER. FIRST OFF, I MOVED HERE FROM CALIFORNIA FROM SAN DIEGO ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO. I MOVED HERE FOR A JOB BUT THE AREA WAS REALLY FAMILY-ORIENTED, AND COST OF LIVING WAS GREAT, SCHOOLS WERE FANTASTIC. I CHOSE FRISCO FOR THAT REASON ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO. FOR JUST AN EXAMPLE TO THE LAST PERSON THAT TALKED ABOUT SCHOOLS IN SAN DIEGO, MY SON STRUGGLED TO GET A C IN SAN DIEGO. [23. Public Hearing: A request to repeal Ordinance No. 09-04-17 consisting of 36.2± acres on the southeast corner of Dallas Parkway and Warren Parkway (“Property”), to amend the Zoning Ordinance (Ordinance No. 11-04-09, as amended), to rezone the Property as Planned Development-Office-2/Retail/Residential, and to consider to direct Staff to prepare an Ordinance of the same. Zoned Planned Development-196-Mixed Use. Neighborhood #35. Zoning Case No. Z22-0017. Applicant: City of Frisco. Tabled 01/03/2023. (Development Services/JH)] HE MOVED HERE AND HE WAS ON A ROLL FIRST SEMESTER. MY SON THEN WENT ON TO GET A SCHOLARSHIP TO COLLEGE. THIS IS A FANTASTIC CITY, THAT'S THE REASON WHY PEOPLE MOVE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH WHEN I HAD SOME TIME TODAY. LOOKING AT THE POPULATION OF THE CITY, BY 2025 IT'S FORECASTED TO HAVE 325,000 PEOPLE HERE, 325,000. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT, LET'S SEE, [00:50:01] IT WAS FOR 2022, THE POPULATION WAS 216,000. THAT IS OVER 100,000 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TWO THINGS THAT CONCERN ME WITH THAT. TRAFFIC STUDY. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IT DIDN'T SEEM TO FACTOR THE OPENING OF THE PGA, THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN BUILD OR PLANNED, APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE GOING UP AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING THERE. HOTELS. THE ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX OR THE SHOPS THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO UP AT PANTHER CREEK AND TEEL. JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE PIECE OF IDEA OF HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET ANYWHERE. IT TOOK ME 20 MINUTES TO GET HERE FROM PANTHER CREEK AND TEEL TODAY. THAT'S NOTHING ELSE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THE UNIVERSAL WAS STATING SOMETHING AROUND THE LINES OF 7,500 CUSTOMERS A DAY AND THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE OPEN FROM 9:00-6:00. THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPENING AND CLOSING AT THE HEIGHT AND THE PEAK OF TRAFFIC TIMES. [24. Second Public Hearing: A request for the continuation of Article V (Juvenile Curfew) of Chapter 54 of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Frisco, Texas, relating to the juvenile curfew. Under Texas law, the Juvenile Curfew Ordinance must be reviewed, and public hearings held on the need to continue the Ordinance every three (3) years. (Police/DS)] THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEND OR REROUTE THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA FOR TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ALREADY CAN'T GET TO TARGET WITHOUT IT TAKING 20 MINUTES IN CERTAIN PEAK HOURS OF THE DAY. THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT I GUESS I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS, SO I MISSED SOME OF THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ALL THESE PLANS TO BUILD OR EXPAND ROADS AND SUCH AROUND THERE. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME. I KNOW THE PARK IS GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME TO GO UP TOO. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS NOT THE SOLUTION RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE MOVED UP HERE BECAUSE IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT WAS A SUBURB, NOT BECAUSE IT WAS BIG CITY. LET'S GO ON TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC STILL. I MOVED FROM SAN DIEGO, AS I MENTIONED, LEGOLAND HAS A MAJOR FREEWAY THAT HAS FOUR LANES IN EACH DIRECTION THAT FEEDS THAT PARK. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TRAFFIC, THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A MAJOR FREEWAY. WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE. SEAWORLD. I WAS LIVING CLOSE TO SEAWORLD IN SAN DIEGO. AGAIN, THE FIVE FREEWAY IS RIGHT THERE FEEDING INTO SEA SUBDIVISIONS AROUND SEAWORLD. WHEN THE SAN DIEGO FAIR IS GOING ON, THAT FIVE FREEWAY THAT HAS FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC GOING IN EACH DIRECTION IS A STANDSTILL PARKING LOT. SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY AT THE THEME PARK. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THE FAIR HAS. THINK ABOUT THAT WITH THREE LANES WE GOT GOING IN EACH DIRECTION. THERE'S THAT. EMERGENCY STAFF. THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT I WAS HERE FOR AND I JUST LISTENED, I DIDN'T SPEAK. THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO SPOKE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S [25. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance continuing Article V (Juvenile Curfew) of Chapter 54 of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Frisco, Texas, in accordance with Section 370.002 of the Texas Local Government Code, and making findings related thereto. (Police/DS)] SPOKE ABOUT BEING DENIED A GRANT FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF. I ALSO HEARD THAT IT TAKES ABOUT 12-14 MONTHS TO TRAIN STAFF FOR YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR EMERGENCIES. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE'S A NEW FIREHOUSE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPENING AND THEY'VE BEEN DENIED. HIRING THE STAFF NOW TO GET THEM TRAINED, IT TAKES 12-14 MONTHS. THAT'S A CONCERN. [26. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance designating eight (8) election precincts for the Saturday, May 6, 2023 General Election and each subsequent municipal election to be held in the City of Frisco, Collin and Denton Counties, Texas, as ordered by the City Council; authorizing all necessary actions relating thereto; and providing a savings/repealing clause, severability clause, and an effective date. (CSO/KM)] I ALSO HEARD AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE THIS IS BECAUSE YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS THAT FOUR YEARS THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR OUR FIREHOUSES, FOR FOUR YEARS THEY'VE BEEN DENIED. OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN HOW MUCH IN FOUR YEARS? IT'S GROWN BY WHAT IS ABOUT, 20 PERCENT. THE NEXT THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THAT, SO THEY HAVEN'T HAD NEW STAFF IN FOUR YEARS AND WE'VE GROWN BY A LOT. WE HAVE A NEW FIREHOUSE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPENING AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN STAFFED YET TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN THEM. YOU HAVE PROSPER SUPPORTING THAT AREA WHERE THE THEME PARK IS SUPPOSED TO BE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO SUPPORT THAT AREA. NOW YOU WANT TO THROW A THEME PARK INTO THE MIX WITH CHILDREN WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE EMERGENCIES EVERY SINGLE DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY IN THAT THEME PARK. I KNOW I'M TAKING A LONG TIME. I'M SORRY. >> IF YOU CAN JUST WRAP IT UP. THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN WRAP IT UP, THAT'D BE GREAT. >> THIS IS IT. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO GET THEM UP AND RUNNING WITH STAFF? BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAFETY OF NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE IN THE THEME PARK, THE BUSINESSES AROUND THERE, BUT OUR RESIDENTS. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE TIED UP WITH AN EMERGENCY ON THE FREEWAY, [00:55:07] LET'S SAY THERE'S A PILOT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. [27. Consider and act upon an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Frisco, Texas, calling a bond election for propositions: providing for the conduct of the election; and enacting other provisions relating to the subject. (Budget/JH)] YOU GOT A KID THAT HAS DROWN IN THE POOL AT THE HOTEL IN THEME PARK. YOU'VE GOT A FIRE IN A HOUSE IN A SUBDIVISION. HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING ALL OF THIS? IT'S THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN THE CITY AND THE VISITORS. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION IN LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING; WAS THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED FOR THIS AND BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> WE'VE GOT YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS IN YOUR CARD. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET YOU THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED ABOUT THE SAFE STAFFING IN THE NEW FIRE STATIONS. WE'LL GET THAT ADDRESSED WITH YOU. THE 325,000 POPULATION NUMBER, THAT'S WHAT OUR POPULATION IS EXPECTED TO BE UPON COMPLETE BUILD-OUT. TYPICALLY WHAT FRISCO HAS SEEN IS 6-8 PERCENT GROWTH AND THAT'S REALLY, WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER LAST 15 YEARS. IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT. ADDING ABOUT 10-12,000 PEOPLE A YEAR IS OUR NORMAL HERE IN FRISCO. IT WILL TAKE 10-15 YEARS TO REACH THAT BUILD-OUT HUFFLE, JUST SO YOU KNOW. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. >> NEXT WE HAVE JESSE WASHINGTON. [NOISE] >> HI, EVERYONE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR LETTING US BE ABLE TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS HERE. I LIVE AT 13854 BELLA MILLS DRIVE. I LIVE FAIRLY CLOSE TO I GUESS WHERE THE AREA'S GOING TO BE BUILT OUT AT. I GUESS FOR ME SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I REALLY HAD, AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TALKING TO ONE OR TWO OF YOU OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND I HAD PROBABLY LIKE A 90-MINUTE CONVERSATION WITH LAURA, HI LAURA, AND BY THE END OF IT I STILL WASN'T REALLY CONVINCED, I DON'T REALLY THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW. IT ALL FEELS LIKE THIS IS BEING PUSHED, AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE I TALK TO IS AGAINST THIS. NO ONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THINKS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT, AND I KNOW ONE PERSON HERE WAS PRETTY GUNG-HO ABOUT IT. EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE MORE OF VESTED INTERESTS. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF EVERYONE IS AGAINST IT, OR THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AT LEAST I'VE TALKED TO, AND I CAN IMAGINE YOU GUYS HAVE AN INCOMING FIRE FROM ALL SIDES. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO BENEFIT ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT I'VE REALLY HAVE TALK TO ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT, PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE. I KNOW THE PUSH TO MAKE THIS LIKE A DESTINATION LOCATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND TALK OF PRESTIGE, AND I SAW GOVERNOR ABBOTT TALKING ABOUT THE PARK AND ALL THAT. BUT HONESTLY FOR ME I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT, I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO RAISE MY KID IN A GOOD AREA WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT CRIME, AND OTHER THINGS, AND OTHER PROBLEMS THAT I FEEL LIKE THE PARK IS GOING TO BRING. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. LET'S SAY LIKE THIS AREA IS WHAT? JUST SAYING 30 PERCENT. BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW ENTIRELY WHAT THE OTHER 60 PERCENT IS GOING TO BE. I WORRY A LOT ABOUT JUST THE EFFECT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ON LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. PARTICULARLY FOR ME, I WORRY ABOUT THE AIRBNBS THAT WILL POP UP. WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN THE AREA NOW, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE IF YOU CAN RENT YOUR HOUSE OUT EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE REALLY THE ONLY BENEFIT IS I GUESS THE SALES TAX, WHICH AGAIN I JUST DON'T NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT. I KNOW TOO, I THINK WHEN I WAS TALKING TO LAURA, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT SHE MADE, WAS IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE STONEBRIAR, YOU LOOK AT THE STAR, THERE WAS PUSHBACK FOR EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS. I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE CAN PROBABLY RECOGNIZE THE BENEFIT OF STONEBRIAR AND STAR, [01:00:04] THOSE SEEM PRETTY GOOD IDEAS, AND SURE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OPINIONS ON THEM. BUT I GUESS FOR THIS IT DOESN'T SEEM IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT ANY OF US. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD AT BRINGING PEOPLE IN, WHICH I THINK ALL OF US ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE EFFECT THAT HAS ON THE CRIME. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE CRIME INCREASE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IT. I GUESS ULTIMATELY DO WE WANT THIS TO BE A DESTINATION CITY FOR TOURISTS, OR DO WE WANT THIS TO BE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN RAISE YOUR FAMILY? THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THOSE ARE ALL THE BLUE CARDS THAT I HAVE OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK. I HAVE SEVERAL THAT WANTED TO BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD. BUT THAT IS ALL THE SPEAKERS, UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE. >> IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? >> MOTION TO CLOSE. >> MOTION BY SEAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY BRITNEY. ALL IN FAVOR? [OVERLAPPING] >> WAIT. >> HOLD ON A SECOND. >> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO CONTINUE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I APOLOGIZE. >> I RESCIND MY MOTION. >> YOU WANT TO RESCIND THAT MOTION? THANK YOU. THAT'S BEEN [INAUDIBLE] . AS I'VE MENTIONED, THIS IS BEING RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE IT READ TO FEBRUARY 21ST. THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US. I DO JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT I FEEL IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION. I BELIEVE IT WAS A MELINDA THAT SPOKE. I JUST WANTED IT TO BE SET AS, I KNOW YOU HAD SOME FRUSTRATION THAT FOUR PEOPLE WENT IN FRONT OF YOU, AND IT'S PROBABLY MY FAULT. WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS IT'S USUALLY THE OPPOSITE IN A DEBATE. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL IT'S NOT FAIR THAT ALL THE NEGATIVE AND THEN YOU GET ALL THE PRO-PEOPLE AT THE END, BECAUSE THEY GET TO LISTEN TO ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND THEN COME AT YOU. SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS ADVANTAGEOUS TO BENEFIT YOU TO GO AFTER IN SUPPORT OF IT. IT USUALLY IS A LOT BETTER THAT YOU ALL GET TO GO AFTER THAT. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS, AND IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT HOW YOU-ALL'S FEEDBACK. THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION BY CITY STAFF TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE FEBRUARY 21ST. IS THERE A MOTION? >> MR. CHAIR, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT, GAVE THEIR OPINIONS, GAVE THEIR FEEDBACK. IT'S EXTREMELY VALUABLE FOR US TO HEAR THAT. IT'S NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY, SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE CONSIDERED. WELL, WITH THAT, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE FEBRUARY 21ST, [INAUDIBLE] >> I'VE GOT A MOTION BY BRIAN. >> SECOND BY JAKE. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ANY OPPOSE? >> MOTION PASSES, 6-0. THIS ITEM IS TABLED TO FEBRUARY 21ST. >> THANK YOU, JOHN. NOW TO TAKE A SIDE AND THREE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL, REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE ON 97.4 ACRES ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, DALLAS PARKWAY AND PANTHER CREEK PARKWAY, ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 280, NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 53, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CASE NUMBER SUP 23-0001, OWNER FTNV CORPORATION, CAN SOLVE IT FOR A MOTION OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. >> TO MOVED. >> MOTION BY BILL. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY JOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S A 6-0. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. I KNOW WE TOOK COMMENTS IN THE LAST ITEM, BUT I'LL GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN. IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS NOT GOTTEN TO SPEAK THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THIS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL ALLOW ANYONE TO SPEAK. YES, SIR, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK DURING THIS ITEM, WE BY LAW HAVE TO ALLOW IT. [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST AS IT RELATES TO [LAUGHTER] OUR NEIGHBORS, WHICH WE RESPECT TREMENDOUSLY, WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO ALL KNOW THAT FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE CAME HERE, WE INVITED 10 OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND COBB HILL WAS INVITED. THIS PROPERTY, I'M TALKING ABOUT ENTIRE FIELDS DEVELOPMENT, IS ZONED FOR HIGHEST COMMERCIAL USE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND I WILL BE STANDING HERE AND MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS, THERE WAS NOT ONE OPPOSITION BUT IT WAS ASKED AND [01:05:01] APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY. ON THAT 100 ACRES, THE REASON THAT THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, WE NEVER THOUGHT THAT WE WILL HAVE A THEME PARK. NEVER THOUGHT AND IT WAS NEVER. WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF IT WASN'T THEME PARK? IT COULD BE A COSTCO, IT COULD BE TARGET, IT CAN BE SUPER WALMART, IT CAN BE A J.P. MORGAN CHASE CAMPUS AND I DID THAT DEAL. J.P. MORGAN CHASE CAMPUS IS 50 ACRES. THERE IS ABOUT 16,000 PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE. THEY HAVE A ROOM TO ADD ONE MORE BUILDING. IT COULD BE 20,000 PEOPLE. IF YOU DOUBLE THAT, I CAN PUT IT HERE AT 40,000 PEOPLE WORKING UNDER 100 ACRES. PER ZONING, IRELAND IS ENTITLED TO DO SO AND WE WON'T BE HERE. UNIVERSAL HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE PARTNER IN THE TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE FAR LESS THAN IN OTHER USE THAT PROPERTY CAN HAVE [APPLAUSE] SO I CAN TELL YOU WITH LOOKING AT THE EYE, IT'S GOING TO BE FAR LESS TRAFFIC THAN ANYTHING ELSE CAN GO ON THEIR PROPERTY SO THAT'S THE ADDRESS AND THE VERY PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE, THE CITY ENGINEER'S, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS. THESE ARE CAREER EMPLOYEES. THEY STUDIED, THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY SAID, THIS IS FAR LESS THAN ANYTHING CAN ELSE HAPPEN ON THEIR PROPERTY, SO THAT'S ONE THING.THEN AS FAR AS THE CRIME, SO THAT YES, I HEAR YOU CALIFORNIA, I'M PROUD TO BRING TOYOTA AND MANY COMPANIES FROM CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS. I REALLY AM AND THOSE PEOPLE COME HERE AND ALL THE PROBLEMS. WHY THE HOMELESS IS IN CALIFORNIA? BECAUSE OF THEIR POLICIES. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS, THEY'RE IN TEXAS AND WE HAVE GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT. OUR POLICE CHIEF SPOKE TO PEOPLE IN FLORIDA AND THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3-9 YEARS OF CHILDREN WITH THEIR FAMILIES. THEY CHOSE THIS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR FAMILY PLACE. THEY DIDN'T CHOSE IT TO BE IN SOMEWHERE ELSE AROUND THE DALLAS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY FAMILY-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT AND I CANNOT IMAGINE THREE OR NINE YEARS OLD, LIKE YOU'RE EXCITED TAKING YOUR KIDS, THAT'S BECOMING A CRIME PLACE SO THAT HEARING ABOUT THIS, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, I CAN ASSURE YOU. LEGACY WEST, I HEARD IT. I AM PROUD OF LEGACY WEST, WHO IS NOT? EVERYBODY GOES THERE. YOU GO TO HAYWIRE, FUTO, EVERYTHING. LEGACY WEST DEVELOPMENT LAST YEAR HAD 35 MILLION VISITORS. THIS IS FAR MORE THAN EVER UNIVERSAL HOPE TO BRING, 35 MILLION AND WE'RE TRENDING TO BE THE 40 MILLION PEOPLE VISITING. THERE'S JUST LIKE IN SUEZ THAT DOESN'T COUNT. ALL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOCATED THERE. SO WHEN YOU ADD THE TOYOTA, J.P. MORGAN CHASE, LIBERTY MUTUAL, BOEING, FEDEX, I HAVE OVER 35,000 PEOPLE EMPLOYED THERE. THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR THIS. THIS USE BRINGS MUCH LESS TRAFFIC THAN OTHER THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THAT CORNER. NOW, ANOTHER THING THAT [NOISE] YOU'RE NOT TALKING, CITY OF FRISCO, UNLIKE ANY OTHER CITY, COMMITTED TO SPEND $200 MILLION AND THOSE ROADS THAT YOU LOOKED AT ON THE PLANS ARE BEING BUILT. I'M BUILDING LEGACY DRIVE FROM PANTHER CREEK TO PGA. WE ARE BUILDING FILLS DRIVE FROM TAILS TO TOLL ROAD AND THEY'RE STARTING THESE JUNE BUILDING FRISCO STREET AND FILLS EAST, AND ALL THESE WILL BE COMPLETED 2024 BEFORE UNIVERSAL EVER CAN GET GOING. THE CITY IS BUILDING PANTHER CREEK AND THAT'S GOING TO START THIS JUNE AND IT WILL BE COMPLETED 2025. TOLLWAY AUTHORITIES ENLARGING THE TOLL ROAD, MAKING IT FOUR LANE EACH SIDE. CITY AGREED TO BUILD SERVICE ROADS SO THAT OVER $350 MILLION INVESTMENT BEING MADE IMPROVING THE ROADS AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO APPRECIATE. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE 10, 20 YEARS. THEY'LL DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, THESE THAT WE'RE PROUD BUILDING THESE HIGHWAY, THESE ARE TOLLWAY AUTHORITIES TAKING TO 380. YES, IT'S NOT THE SAME CITY THAT YOU CAME 10 YEARS AGO. PLANO IS NOT WHEN. WHEN PEOPLE MOVED TO PLANO 30 YEARS AGO, FRISCO WAS A LITTLE DOT. PROSPER DIDN'T EXIST, SALINA DIDN'T EXIST. THOSE CITIES IS GOING TO BE BIGGER CITIES THAN FRISCO AND PLANO IS. THAT'S THE GROWTH, SO IN OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES TEXAS AND THE COMPANIES KEEP COMING AND UNIVERSAL. [01:10:06] THEY COULD HAVE CHOSE ANY PLACE. THEY CHOSE THE TEXAS BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS, BECAUSE OF THE FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT AND THE QUALITY THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT SOMEWHERE. THEY WANT TO PUT FRISCO BECAUSE IT'S THE FAMILY-FRIENDLY PLACE. BUT ANYWAY, SO THANK YOU. BUT I CAN TALK HOURS LONG, BUT WE [LAUGHTER] ARE VERY PROUD OF TEXAS. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR. I ALSO HAVE ANN ANDERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK. >> YOU CAN GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT. WE'RE REALLY COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES THERE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUILDING WITH FOUR EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUT THE WEEKENDS I COULD GET TO COSTCO. IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEAL. YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT USING ONE-THIRD OF THAT PROPERTY, WHICH HAS 20,000 PEOPLE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND TO THE OTHER TWO-THIRDS, WHICH COULD BE 60,000 PEOPLE ON THAT WEEKEND COMING OUT OF THAT PARK. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE HERE. I'M NOT AGAINST THIS. HEAR ME. I WANT YOU TO TAKE THE TIME TO LET US EVALUATE. NOT SURE IF YOU ALL CAN HEAR ME. I WANT YOU TO TAKE TIME FOR US ALL AS RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND TO BE ABLE TO ALL BE ON BOARD. THIS HAS GONE WAY TOO FAST AND I KNOW, JAKE, I HEAR THE 30 STORY BUILDING. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU TOLD ME, BUT ANYWAY, WITH TONS OF PEOPLE, I GET IT. BUT GUYS, THIS IS OUR HOME, THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IF WE HAVE 60,000 PEOPLE COMING OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. HEAR OUR VOICES. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. >> I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS. THANK YOU. >> ANN ANDERSON. >> ANN ANDERSON 6613 WHITE OAKS LANE. I'VE BEEN A FRISCO RESIDENT FOR OVER 17 YEARS AND AS A PARENT OF FRISCO ISD STUDENTS AND AN ART STUDENT, I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ARTIST WHO WOULD REALLY BE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY IN OUR FAIR CITY. RIGHT AFTER THIS ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE, MY DAUGHTER CALLED HER FACULTY ADVISOR AT TEXAS TECH AND SAID, "YOU NEED FRISCO ON THE JOB BOARD BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR OUR ART STUDENTS AND FOR OUR THEATER STUDENTS." UNIVERSAL STUDIOS WOULD HIRE ARTISTS, THEY WOULD HIRE PERFORMERS, MUSICIANS. THIS IS WHERE ART HAPPENS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN ART-CENTRIC CITY. THIS IS PART OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS AND I THINK THE CITY IS TRYING TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE CONCERNS. I'M VERY ENCOURAGED THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A LIAISON TO UNIVERSAL STUDIOS, WHICH THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN SECURITY AND MEDICAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. [NOISE] BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST A SPORT CITY ANYMORE. WE'VE INVOLVED INTO MUCH MORE THAN THAT AND I'M A HUGE FOOTBALL FAN. EVERYONE KNOWS I LOVE THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WHEN MY TEAM WINS. THAT BRINGS OVER $1 MILLION TO OUR TAX BASE EVERY YEAR. THOSE ARE REAL DOLLARS THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PAY ON MY PROPERTY TAXES AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE APPRECIATES THAT. BUT THIS IS ANOTHER REVENUE GENERATOR AND I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE A TOURISM CITY, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE SOMETIMES. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ARTISTS AND BE ON RECORD. THIS IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR ART STUDENTS. MORE THAN 7,000 FRISCO ISD STUDENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THE ARTS AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. THANKS. [APPLAUSE] >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? >> MY NAME IS SHANNON GREER. I LIVE AT 46-24 CONEY ISLAND, FRISCO, TEXAS, 75036. JUST TO MAKE JAKE PETRUS HAPPY, I DON'T BELIEVE IN FRISCO, BUT I HAVE TWO HOMES THAT I OWN IN FRISCO THAT I RENT OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TWO THINGS. STAFFING, WE CAN'T FILL HALF OF OUR JOBS IN THE CITY TODAY ANYWAYS WITH HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, UNIVERSAL PAYS AN AVERAGE OF 15.96 PER HOUR GO ON AND DEED, ALL OF THEIR PARK ATTENDANT JOBS, 15.96 AN HOUR. BAKIS IS PAYING $25 AN HOUR FOLKS. IF I'M A HIGH-SCHOOL KID I'M NOT GOING TO GO WORK AT UNIVERSAL. CHIEF [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED AT THE TRENT MIDDLE SCHOOL MEET AND GREET, THAT HE HAD LOOKED AT CRIME IN THESE DIFFERENT CITIES AND MADE [01:15:02] A CRIME ANALYSIS AND PRESENTED IT IN THOREAU TO THE COUNCIL. NONE OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE SEEN IT. WE'RE SITTING HERE TELLING YOU THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES AND YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN US. THEN I HEAR FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT EITHER. I THINK WHAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IS, NOT EVERY DEVELOPMENT IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT, NOT EVERY DEVELOPMENT IS A BAD DEVELOPMENT. I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THIS IS A GOOD OR BAD DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE CITIZENS, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT, AND RIGHT NOW I THINK YOU'VE HAD A LOT MORE OPPOSITION TONIGHT THAT SUPPORT FOR IT, AND I STAND OPPOSED. [APPLAUSE]. >> YES, MA'AM. >> WE PREVIOUSLY FILLED OUT A BLUE CARD. [BACKGROUND] WE'LL NEED TO RECORD WHEN YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING. >> I WASN'T PLANNING ON TALKING TODAY, I ABSOLUTELY HATE TALKING IN PUBLIC. [INAUDIBLE] 5858 GALLANT RUN, I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS BORDERING THE PROPOSED UNIVERSAL PROJECT. I'VE ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE BLOWN THROUGH, I THINK WE ALL HAVE DONE THAT. TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT OUR BOARD, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY OUR BOARD IS SILENT. THEY ARE COMPLETELY SILENT. THEY ARE NOT EVEN COMMENTING ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE A CURRENT PROBLEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN RECTIFIED AT ALL, AND I KNOW YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, BUT WE HAVE HORRIBLE PROBLEM ON ELDORADO, AND THE TOLLWAY WITH TRAFFIC. THIS HAS NOT BEEN FIXED AND WE'RE GOING TO THROW THIS MASSIVE PROJECT UP HERE. WE HAVE PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH, FLYING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO CUT THROUGH TO AVOID THAT ELDORADO D AND T ISSUE, AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, "OH, WE'LL JUST WORK IT OUT. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD MORE STUFF." IT IS CHAOS THERE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, AND NOBODY ADDRESSES IT. IT'S HORRIBLE ON THE WEEKENDS, AND HE SAID YOU COULD BUILD A COSTCO THERE. WE HAVE A COSTCO THERE. WE ARE SMACKED OUT BETWEEN COSTCO AND THIS PROJECT. WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB TRYING TO MAKE IT PRETTY OVER THERE. PUT A PATHWAY FROM THE PROJECT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. Y'ALL NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN TOW PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR ARE WE THE FREE PARKING LOT? [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THAT. YOU'RE ENDANGERING US, YOU'RE BRINGING PEOPLE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE NOT GATED, THE ONLY WAY WE COULD POSSIBLY BE GATED IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREED ON IT, AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOVING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A 75 PERCENT AGREEMENT IF YOU ALL EVEN LET US DO THAT. BUT WE NEED CLARIFICATION FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE. ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE AT THE VERY TOP, LIKE THEY ARE SPITTING DISTANCE TO YOUR PARKING LOT, AND YOU ALL HAVE AN OPENING ON YOUR PLAN DOWN OUR STREET. LIKE THAT'S NOT GOING TO TOTALLY BRING PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE A PROBLEM ALREADY. PEOPLE BOLTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHY IS IT 30 MILES AN HOUR? WHY DO WE HAVE 30 MILES AN HOUR STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? IT IS NOT SAFE. BUT IN THE MORNING AND IN THE EVENING, WE CAN'T EVEN LET OUR KIDS GO OUTSIDE IN THE STREETS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BOLTING NOW TO AVOID THE MESS ON THAT CORNER, AND YOU ALL ARE LIKE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO THROW, ALREADY YOU'VE GOT THE PANTHER CREEK D AND T, IS ALREADY TORN UP, IT'S BAD ALREADY. MAYBE TAKE YOUR TIME TO MAKE THIS DECISION WHEN YOU ALL FIGURE OUT THAT PROBLEM ON ELDORADO. PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE, DO NOT PUT AN ENTRANCE ON KING GEORGE, SO THAT PEEKABOO PEOPLE CAN JUST GO CROSS AND PARK IN OUR ROADS. ARE WE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO TOW CARS THAT ARE THERE THAT DON'T BELONG THERE? WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. WE DO NOT WANT TO BE THE UNIVERSAL FREE PARKING LOT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE UNIVERSAL PASS-THROUGH AS EVERYONE'S TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALL THIS MESS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH FRISCO STREET CONSTRUCTION AND PANTHER CREEK CONSTRUCTION. THEN THE D AND T IS ALREADY A MESS. BUT YOU ALL NEED TO GO SIT ON LOOK AT THIS MESS THAT YOU ALL ARE CREATING, AND THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, FIXED THAT, SHOW US YOU'VE GOT THAT DOWN, BEFORE YOU GO AND CREATE MORE CHAOS. BUT WE LIVE WHERE ALL THIS IS, WE GET TO SEE THIS. IF YOU WANT VIDEO OF IT, WE ALREADY VIDEO IT. BUT WE CAN SEND YOU SOME VIDEO OF THE CHAOS THAT'S ALREADY THERE, FIX THAT. DO SOMETHING TO HELP NOT HAVE PEOPLE CUT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO AVOID THE CHAOS THAT'S NOT FIXED. I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO FIX THAT, IT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY, [01:20:02] BEFORE YOU GO SCREW UP MORE STUFF. ALSO, FRISCO STREET, AT THE VERY BOTTOM IS MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL, LOADED WITH KIDS FROM THE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET, AND THE WHOLE COBB HILL, THESE KIDS, BECAUSE I HAVE TWO KIDS THERE RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVE ONE COMING IN NEXT YEAR, AND THOSE KIDS ARE IN MASS ARE CROSSING THERE. TERRIBLE DRIVERS AT THAT SCHOOL, AT ALL HIGH SCHOOLS, TERRIBLE DRIVERS, YOUNG DRIVERS, PEOPLE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY'RE CUTTING THROUGH, AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE CHAOTIC, YOU'VE GOT TO FIX THAT. YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SOMEBODY SHORTENED OUR SCHOOL ZONE THIS YEAR, AND SO LITERALLY YOU COME UP ON THE CROSSWALK AND THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONES LINE, WHY DON'T WE PULL THAT BACK SO PEOPLE CAN PREPARE FOR THE FACT THAT THEY GOT TO SLAM ON THEIR BRAKES, BECAUSE THESE KIDS ARE WALKING ACROSS BECAUSE THEY THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP FOR THEM. BUT YOU ALL HAVE TO PROTECT THOSE CHILDREN AS YOU DO THAT CUT THROUGH UP NORTH. I APPRECIATE YOU-ALLS TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WE HAVE ANOTHER RESIDENT IF YOU WANTED TO JUMP UP. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER. WE GOT HADDY CARTER. >> THANKS FOR ALLOWING SOME EXTRAS. I DIDN'T SIGN UP ORIGINALLY, BUT I TOO AND L'M IN COBB HILL, AND I HAVE LIVED IN FRISCO SINCE '95. MY ADDRESS IS 5886 NOBLE OAK. I'VE SEEN OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE WE BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOUSE OUT HERE. IT'S BEEN AMAZING. THANK YOU TO ALL THAT HAVE TAKEN PART IN THAT. I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSAL'S COMING. UNIVERSAL IS A CLASS ACT, CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THEM. US BUYING IN COBB HILL, WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ROUNDNESS. WE HAVE A HOSPITAL. THEY'VE BEEN AMAZING NEIGHBORS. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US THINK THE UNIVERSAL DOESN'T WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WE ARE THE ONLY SUBDIVISION RIGHT THERE. I KNOW LANDON IS GOING TO BE BUILDING NEARBY. THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AS THEY BUILD THEIR SUBDIVISIONS WE DID NOT. I THINK ALL OF US FROM COBB HILL, WE DIDN'T HAVE A FORMAL WITH OUR BOARD. THIS IS ALL COME UP QUICKLY. I THINK WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER OUR SUBDIVISION. WE ARE BEING TOLD THERE IS NO LIGHT. IT WOULD GO TO THE BACK OF OUR SUBDIVISION. THAT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT HAVING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVERTHROW SUBDIVISION. SHE WAS EXPRESSING OUR BELLE ISLE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS LITERALLY A MINIATURE TOLLWAY. I SIT THERE WATCHING IT OUT OF MY OFFICE EVERY MORNING AND EVERY AFTERNOON. AS THE KIDS COMING FROM MEMORIAL, I HAVE KIDS, SAME THING, IT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO ADD TO THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER OUR SUBDIVISION. WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GATE OUR SUBDIVISION AND HAVE SOME LEEWAY WITH UNIVERSAL IN THE CITY TO NOT HAVE TO CARE. WE'RE TOLD THAT WE HAVE TO CARE FOR EVERYTHING INSIDE SUBDIVISION IF WE DO THAT SO THAT MAY NOT BE AN OPTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHAT OPTIONS WE DO HAVE WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER TO TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDS, ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY CUT THROUGH. WE WERE TOLD THAT THE ORIGINAL MEET-AND-GREET AT TRENT, THEIR FISCAL STREET PROBABLY WOULDN'T GO THROUGH ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SEVERAL MORE YEARS. IF THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, PUTTING IN A LIGHT BACK THERE, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL, SOMETHING TO PROTECT US. WE'RE A SMALL CELL DIVISION. WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER US AND MAKE IT AS DOABLE AS POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF US SO WE CAN ALL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TOGETHER. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT I HAVE ROGER BEVEL. >> LET ME SPEAK. I WON'T BE VERY LONG. I MOVED MY FAMILY FROM SEATTLE TO TEXAS IN 1998. I LOVE SEATTLE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY. LOTS OF THINGS TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT A VERY FAMILY-FRIENDLY CITY. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S NO SECRET. EVERY PLACE I WENT TO IN TEXAS WAS MUCH MORE FAMILY-FRIENDLY. I HAD FOUR KIDS AT THE TIME, WHICH IN SEATTLE, EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE RUINING THE PLANET. I WENT TO SAN ANTONIO AND SUDDENLY WE HAD A SMALL FAMILY, AND WE LOVE SAN ANTONIO. IT HAS SO MUCH CHARACTER IN THE CITY. WE HAD SEAWORLD SEASON PASSES, TOOK THE KIDS THERE ALL THE TIME. MY SON HAD A JOB AT FIESTA TEXAS, DOING CHARACTER DRAWINGS IN THE SUMMER. THAT WAS A HUGE THING FOR HIM. HE BECAME A CIVIL ENGINEER. YOU MAY SEE HIM AT A MEETING LIKE THIS TALKING ABOUT YOUR FREEWAYS. HE'S IMPROVING YOUR FREEWAYS. HE WAS INSPIRED BY THAT JOB THAT HE HAD DRAWING FUNNY PICTURES OF YOU AT FIESTA TEXAS. [01:25:08] MY KIDS STUDIED ABOUT THE ALAMO. I THINK EVERY SINGLE YEAR IN TEXAS SCHOOLS, ALREADY STUDYING ABOUT THE ALAMO AGAIN. THE THING IS, THE ALAMO ALMOST WENT AWAY IN SAN ANTONIO ABOUT 80 YEARS AGO. BUT SAN ANTONIO DECIDED WHO THEY WANTED TO BE AND THEY SAID WERE THE ALAMO CITY. NOW, WE LIVED THERE DURING TIM DUNCAN'S RUN ABOUT 20 YEARS OR 10 YEARS, I GUESS AND THAT WAS HUGE. THE SPURS ARE HUGE, BUT STILL SPORTS ARE BIG BUT THAT'S ALAMO CITY. FRISCO IS NOT SAN ANTONIO, BUT FRISCO IS FRISCO. WHAT IS FRISCO? I THINK FRISCO NEEDS TO DECIDE WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE WHEN IT GROWS UP. SOME PEOPLE SAID, WE'RE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. DO WE JUST COME HERE TO SLEEP? WE ARE CITY, YES, BUT IF YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHY THEY COME HERE, OVERALL, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE IT'S A FAMILY-FRIENDLY PLACE. IS THIS DEVELOPMENT IN KEEPING WITH A FAMILY-FRIENDLY CITY THAT WE ARE IN THAT WE WANT TO BE? I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> ROGER, COULD YOU FOR THE RECORD, REMIND US OF YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS ROGER BEVEL AND I LIVE AT 11313 OCEAN ROAD IN FRISCO. JUST THE OTHER SIDE OF HILLCREST. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2008. I LOVE THE CITY. FOR ME, I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN, AND IT STILL HAS A SMALL TOWN FEELING. SAN ANTONIO, BY THE WAY, HAS A SMALL TOWN FEELING CERTAIN WAYS AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CULTURE, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. BY THE WAY, I MEANT TO TELL YOU, I LIVE RIGHT NEAR BINGHAM RANCH. I LOVE DRIVING BY THEIR EVERYDAY AND SEEING THE COWS OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT I DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO DEVELOP THAT SOMEDAY. I HOPE THEY DO SOMETHING I LIKE, BUT I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT. ON A SIMILAR NOTE, WHEN I WAS IN SAN ANTONIO AND EXCUSE ME FOR SHAKING, BUT I HAVE PARKINSON'S THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. IN SAN ANTONIO, YOU MAY NOT KNOW IT, BUT WHEN I WAS THERE IN 2002, PGA WANTED TO BUILD A WONDERFUL VILLAGE TWO BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE. I'M SERIOUS. WE WERE DELIGHTED ABOUT IT. WE THOUGHT IT WAS A HUGE VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY. IN FIGHTING HAPPENED AND PGA WALKED AWAY. I WAS ON THE BOARD OF AN HOA AT THAT TIME. WE WROTE TO PGA AND SAID, "PLEASE COME BACK. WE WANT YOU HERE. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IN THE AREA. NOTHINGS VILLE THING IS THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT. IF YOU'RE HERE, WE'RE GOING TO CARE ABOUT THIS PLACE." THEY CAME NORTH. HERE THEY ARE, CONGRATULATIONS TO FRISCO FOR NOT BLOWING THAT DEAL. LOUIS SAN ANTONIO DID, IT WAS A BIG SHAME. ANYWAY, I COULD GO ON TOO, BUT THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> THANKS, ROGER. [APPLAUSE] IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? >> MR. MAYORS, COUNCIL MEMBERS AGAIN, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TOO, FOR THOSE THAT HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW ME, I LIKE TO BE THE LAST PERSON OUT OF THE BUILDING. FOR THE NEIGHBORS, I WANT TO KEEP TALKING. I'M GOING TO GO PARK MYSELF IN THE LOBBY. IF BY ANY CHANCE YOU DIDN'T GET MY CARD, I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, BECAUSE A MAILER DID GO OUT TO COBB HILL, BUT YOU WILL GET MY CARD TONIGHT, I PROMISE YOU. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT UP. WE'RE NOT RUNNING OUT OF HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> HEY, LAST CALL FOR CITIZEN INPUT. THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. I I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT MY NOTES SAY FROM MY CITY SECRETARY. [OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST FOLLOWING MY INSTRUCTIONS. [LAUGHTER] >> WERE GOING TO CLOSE THIS HEARING. WE'RE CLOSING THIS ONE. >> YES. >> YES. >> SHE GAVE ME GOOD NOTES. [LAUGHTER] THERE WILL BE ONE ON THE 21ST. >> YES. >> THEN COME BACK AND TALK ON 21ST. THIS ONE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE. >> MOVED TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. BY BILL. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ANGELIA, ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED AND COUNCIL WILL TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JIM. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEM 4, CONSIDER TO ACT UPON A FINAL REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A SPECIAL SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE ON 97.4 ACRES ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND PANTHER CREEK PARKWAY. ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 280 NEIGHBORHOOD AT 53 SUP 23-001. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS ITEM IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. [01:30:01] STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED TO THE FEBRUARY 21ST, 2023 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU, JONATHAN. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM 4? >> LIFT THE TABLE DECIDED FOR THE FEBRUARY 21ST SPECIAL MEETING. >> MOTION BY BRIAN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ED. ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6-0. THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ITEM 5, CONSIDER AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT VENUE AND 97.4 ACRES ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND PANTHER CREEK PARKWAY, ZONE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 280 NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 53, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CASE NUMBER SUP 23-0001, OWNER, FTNV CORPORATION, AND MY NOTES SAY WE'LL BE TAKING NO ACTION ON THIS. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I DO WANT TO AGAIN REITERATE THANKS TO THE PUBLIC WHO CAME HERE TO SPEAK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE AND SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK. THE PROCESS OVER THE LAST MONTH HAS LED TO MANY REFINEMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OF THE NEIGHBOR AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, AND THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. CITY STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING TO HAVE A DELICATE BALANCE OF NOT PUTTING INFORMATION THAT LOOKED LIKE THE CITY MADE A DECISION PRIOR TO AT LEAST HAVING OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SPOKE TO, WE WILL BE PUTTING THAT OUT SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW. WE WANT THIS TO BE A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS. WE WANT IT TO BE A CONVERSATION. WE WANT TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE CONCERN THAT WE HEAR. FACT, I'VE JOTTED THREE PAGES OF NOTES HERE AS FAR AS THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT. WE'LL BE PUTTING OUT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. JOEL FITZ DOES A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT. I KNOW WE'VE GOT A VIDEO PLANNED FOR HIM. HE CAN REALLY DIVE INTO THE DETAILS. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE EVEN SOME OF THE ANIMATIONS. MAYBE THE ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM, THERE'S 100 PAGE PLUS REPORT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DIVE INTO THE WEEDS OF THE REPORT THAT THEY DO. THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS BASED ON FULL BUILD-OUT OF THE PARK AND IT'S BASED ON FULL BUILD-OUT OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. IT IS PLANNING OUT TRAFFIC PATTERNS OVER THE NEXT FEW DECADES AS FAR AS HOW THOSE PLANNING PROCESSES GO. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY MINDFUL FOR. THE CRIME STATISTICS AND ANALYSIS BY CHIEF SCHILLSER, WILL BE PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AS WELL FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW AND PICK APART, AND ASK QUESTIONS AND SHARE YOUR CONCERNS. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK. I KNOW I'M PLANNING TO BE OUT IN COBB HILL NEXT WEDNESDAY AT 5:00 IN THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT LOOKS OVER THE PARK. ANY OF THE RESIDENTS, I THINK THEY PUT IT ON NEXT DOOR. WE MAY HAVE A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SHOW UP TOO BUT I'LL BE OUT THERE AND BRING A CHAIR, WE'LL SIT UP THERE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A CONVERSATION AS WAS MENTIONED, WE WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION AND THE VISION OF THE PROJECT AND ULTIMATELY CERTAINLY WELCOME UNIVERSAL AND WE WANT THEM TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE CITY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND STEWARDS OF THIS COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND THE FEEDBACK. WITH THAT, COUNCIL, I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO JUST QUICK MAINTENANCE ITEM. WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE WILL RESUME OUR REGULAR MEETING. I LOOK FOR A MOTION. >> MOVED. >> MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY JOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [NOISE] >> YES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? [OVERLAPPING] >> MOTION TO ADJOURN. YES [OVERLAPPING] >> MOTION BY BRIAN. >> I SECOND. >> SECOND BY ED. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT [INAUDIBLE]. [NOISE] >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? MOTION BY JOHN. [BACKGROUND] >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY LAURA. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> WE ARE RECONVENED IN OUR REGULAR SESSION AT 7:31 P.M. AND THAT WILL MOVE US INTO OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE. >> TONIGHT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIAL GUESTS TO DO OUR INVOCATION. HE'S NOT A PASTOR BUT HE KNOWS THE POWER OF PRAYER. I'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR OWN CITY MANAGER, WES PEARSON, COME FORWARD AND LEAD US IN PRAYER TONIGHT. >> OUR BELOVED FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE THY CHILDREN COME BEFORE THEE IN PRAYER TO GIVE THEE THANKS FOR ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH. WE LIVE IN AN AMAZING COUNTRY, IN AN AMAZING COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN BUILT BY PEOPLE WHO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER AND CARE FOR DOING WHAT IS RIGHT, AND CARE FOR SERVING GODLY WAY. [01:35:03] WE GIVE THEE THANKS FOR THE THINGS THAT OUR PREDECESSORS HAVE DONE TO SET GOOD EXAMPLES, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE AND LEAD TODAY, TO CONTINUE THAT LEGACY, TO ACHIEVE WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, AND TO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. WE GIVE THEE THANKS TO BE ABLE TO KNOW HOW TO USE THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO BLESS THOSE IN NEED. WE ASK THAT THAT WILL HELP US TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE AROUND US AND HOW WE CAN LIFT THEM UP AND HELP THEM TO FILL THY LOVE FOR THEM. WE ASK THAT THAT THOU WILL BLESS US WITH PATIENCE, WITH WISDOM, WITH KINDNESS, AND WITH A DESIRE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT EVEN WHEN IT IS HARD. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THAT THOU HAS BLESSED US WITH. WE SAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN. >> AMEN. >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST TO DO OUR PLEDGE TONIGHT. OUR SCOUT TROOP GOT A LITTLE ANTSY, I THINK THEY NEEDED TO GO EAT, [LAUGHTER] SO THEY LEFT US TONIGHT UNFORTUNATELY, BY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WILL BE BACK. WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST TO LEAD US IN PLEDGE AND IT'S OUR OWN CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, MR. DICK PEASLEY WHO'S GOING TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES TONIGHT. [APPLAUSE] >> IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME FOR A SECOND, I WAS BLESSED TO HEAR THE PEOPLE TALK BEFORE YOUR MEETING. WHAT A DEMONSTRATION OF DEMOCRACY WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER, FREELY EXPRESS THEIR BELIEFS WITHOUT ANY FEAR, AND HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT OUR CITY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THEM, OUR CITY, AND OUR COUNTRY. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR COUNTRY. >> >> THANK YOU. [NOISE]. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'LL MOVE US TO ITEM 4, WHICH IS THE SALVATION ARMY RED KETTLE MAYORAL CHALLENGE PRESENTATION. >> I WENT THE WRONG WAY. [LAUGHTER] THE LONGER WAY. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM LIEUTENANT CHRISTINA DOSTOEVSKY, THE CORE OFFICER FOR THE SALVATION ARMY IN MCKINNEY. I'M HERE TO THANK THE MAYOR, JEFF CHENEY AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR SUPPORTING US IN THE RED KETTLE CHALLENGE, MAYORAL CHALLENGE THAT HAPPENED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS AREA. YOU RAISED $1,271.97. LET ME JUST SAY IT'S TRIPLE THE NORMAL KETTLES. >> I'LL TAKE IT. >> [LAUGHTER] YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE. YOU HELP US SERVE THIS COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE YOU'RE LEADING THE CHARGE TO HELP PROVIDE HOPE AND HELP TO NEIGHBORS IN NEED. WE HAVE THIS BELL FOR YOU, TO REMIND YOU OF ALL THOSE LONG HOURS [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M STILL SORE FROM RINGING THE BELL. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, I KNOW. IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT WE APPRECIATE IT. WE KNOW MONEY DOESN'T COME EASY. BUT IT SAYS THE SALVATION ARMY MAYORAL CHALLENGE 2022 AND A CERTIFICATE FOR YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH? >> I WOULD LOVE TO, YES. >> THANK YOU. >> NOW YOU KNOW HOW I GET MY TEENAGERS UP EVERY MORNING. [LAUGHTER]. >> WE NEED VIDEO. [LAUGHTER] >> CAN I AIM FOR HER? [OVERLAPPING] [01:40:06] >> THAT'S AWESOME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO CITIZEN INPUT. THIS IS FOR ANY ITEM NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS, BUT. >> WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT. WE'VE DONNA SCHMISTLUR. DONNA, IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND STATE, I ALWAYS HATE TO ASK YOU TO DO YOUR ADDRESS, DONNA, BECAUSE YOU ARE UP HERE JUST ABOUT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. >> WELL, I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET BORED, YOU KNOW, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS DONNA SCHMISTLUR. I MOVED TO FRISCO 15 YEARS AGO. I LIVE AT 7037 WHITE ROCK COURT, FRISCO, TEXAS 75036. I'M HERE TONIGHT AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HERITAGE ASSOCIATION. TODAY IS A VERY SPECIAL DAY TO ME AND TO FRISCO. TODAY IS FRISCO'S 121ST BIRTHDAY. THE FIRST LOT WAS SOLD IN THE AUCTION IN THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE AUCTION. WE ARE CELEBRATING FRISCO'S 121ST BIRTHDAY. MAYOR CHENEY WAS GOING TO BE DOING A PROCLAMATION FOR US ON SATURDAY AT THE DEPOT. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL. WE'RE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING FRISCO'S BIRTHDAY FROM 11:00-2:00 AT THE DEPOT WITH FUN ACTIVITIES AND GAMES AND FOOD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MAYOR DO THE PROCLAMATION AT NOON AND HE'LL BE RINGING RATHER THE WHISTLE ON ENGINE 19. HE'LL BE BLOWING THE WHISTLE. THEN AT 1:00 O'CLOCK WE HAVE A FIRE TRUCK COMING AND THE SAFETY TOWN CLOWNS, WALNUT, WHO IS THE PARK AND REC SQUIRREL WILL BE VISITING. WE HAVE SOME FOOD, SOME MUSICAL ENTERTAINMENT, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A PARTY WITHOUT GAMES. THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING, PIN THE TAIL ON THE RACCOON. I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO STOP BY. IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S FREE. AT THE DEPOT HERITAGE MUSEUM. THE BLACKSMITH'S WILL BE THERE. THE MUSEUM WILL BE OPEN FROM 11:00-2:00. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL. FRISCO MAKES HISTORY EVERY DAY AND IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE]. >> THEN WE HAVE JOHN [INAUDIBLE]. >> TO START, I PUT ON FACEBOOK THAT I WAS GOING TO BE COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEW PROPOSED FRISCO ELKS LODGE. THEN I OPENED THE DOOR AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO GET MY MEMBERSHIP IN NO TIME. [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE. BUT NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THE EARLIER OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO SPEAK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO ALL OF THEM AND ALL YOU ABOUT THAT UPCOMING OPPORTUNITY. BUT AS FOR US, I'M INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN TOWN AND MILLS. BUT ONE OF THE ONES THAT I'M MOST PROUD OF, SOMETHING THAT I GOT INVOLVED IN EARLY ON THAT REALLY ELEVATED ME TILL ALL THE OTHER ONES IS THE BENEVOLENT PROTECTIVE ORDER OF ELKS. I BELIEVE FRISCO IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST CITY IN TEXAS THAT DOES NOT YET HAVING AN ELKS LODGE. I'VE JUST WORKING WITH A LOT OF GREAT TEAM OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING MY FRIEND KIM CORONADO WHO'S HERE TODAY. WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING A ELKS LODGE HERE TO TEXAS. FEBRUARY 28TH, 7:00 O'CLOCK. WE WILL HAVE OUR OPEN HOUSE. WE FINALLY HAVE A MEETING PLACE. AS A TRADITION WHEN A PROPOSED ELKS LODGE ORGANIZATION HAS A MEETING PLACE, THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST COME INTO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE WILL ALSO BE PART OF 2000 LODGES THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THEIR LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WILL BE JOINING THEM AS WELL. WE WELCOME ALL LOCAL AMERICAN CITIZENS INTERESTED IN JOINING AN ORGANIZATION THAT IT'S FOLLOWING THE PRINCIPLES, CHARITY, JUSTICE, BROTHERLY LOVE, AND FIDELITY. WE RECOGNIZE THE BELIEF IN GOD, PROMOTE THE WELFARE AND ENHANCE THE HAPPINESS OF ITS MEMBERS. THE QUICK AND THE SPIRIT OF AMERICAN PATRIOTISM. TO CULTIVATE GOOD FELLOWSHIP, PERPETUATE ITSELF AS A FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION, PROVIDE FOR ITS GOVERNMENT. WE SERVE THE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES THROUGH BENEVOLENT PROGRAMS DEMONSTRATING THAT ELKS CARE AND ELKS SHARE. WHAT ARE WE THOUGH? WE'RE FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS. WE HAVE 150 YEAR HISTORY. WE HAVE OVER 2000 LODGES. IF YOU NOTICE, THE NUMBERS WILL PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 28, 89, OR SOMEWHERE WE DO HAVE LODGES THAT HAVE CLOSED DOWN. YOU WILL NOT FIND LARGE NUMBER TWO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN PHILADELPHIA OR NUMBER 99. THESE LODGES DO COME AND GO, BUT WE PLAN ON COMING IN. WHERE ARE WE A CHARITABLE FOUNDATION. EACH YEAR, WE GIVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SCHOLARSHIPS. WERE INSPIRATION TO YOUTH, WERE DEFINITELY A FRIEND OF VETERANS. [01:45:02] WE ARE THE ORGANIZATION THAT STARTED VA HOSPITALS. BEFORE THEY WERE VA HOSPITALS, THEY WERE ELKS HOSPITALS. ELKS HOSPITALS WERE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT FIRST DIAGNOSED SHELL SHOCK, WHICH WE NOW KNOW KNOWN AS PTSD. WE ARE A NON-POLITICAL ORGANIZATION, NONSECTARIAN, WE ARE STRICTLY AN AMERICAN FRATERNITY. NOR TO BE PROPOSED, YOU HAVE TO BE OPPOSED BY ANOTHER MEMBER. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE AT OUR OPEN HOUSE AND TALKING TO THOSE INTERESTED IN JOINING. YOU MUST BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. YOU MUST BE OF GOOD MORAL CHARACTER AND BE 21 YEARS OF AGE, BECAUSE MOST OF OUR ELKS LODGES DO HAVE SOCIAL QUARTERS. THE WAY THEY AVOID HAVING TO CARD EVERYBODY IS TO BASICALLY MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S 21. WE SPEND MORE THAN $80 MILLION EVERY YEAR ON OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. EDUCATION, PATRIOT COMMUNITY MINOR PROGRAMS, SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN, TEXAS ELKS CHILDREN'S SERVICES EVERY YEAR PROVIDES ABOUT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR IN DIFFERENT SERVICES. WE RUN A SPECIAL TEXAS ELKS CAMP FOR THOSE CHILDREN. WE ALSO DO SOMETHING CALLED THE ELKS NATIONAL FOUNDATION SCHOLARSHIPS. MY DAUGHTER IS ACTUALLY ON ONE OF THE SCHOLARSHIPS AT TEXAS A&M RIGHT NOW. I WAS TOLD I'M ALLOWED TO DO THAT, BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOOD. MY DAUGHTER TELLS ME IF I EVER DO THAT, THEN I OWE HER. BUT THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR THEM. HOPEFULLY THEY'RE BEATING AUBURN RIGHT NOW. THEY PROVIDE MORE MONEY IN SCHOLARSHIPS IN ANY ORGANIZATION OUTSIDE OF THE US GOVERNMENT. FRISCO'S STUDENTS RIGHT NOW, I'VE HAD TO GO OUT TO DENTIN ELKS LODGE, SHERMAN ELKS LODGE, AND PLANO ELKS LODGE TO APPLY FOR THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS. I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT AND HAVE FRISCO ISD STUDENTS AWARDED SCHOLARSHIPS RIGHT HERE IN FRISCO. I'D LIKE TO DO WHAT MY OLD LODGE DID RAISE ABOUT 10-12,000 DOLLARS ADDITIONALLY IN SCHOLARSHIPS FOR ITS STUDENTS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANT TO START A LODGE WITH MY FRIENDS AND WE DO THINGS, A HOOP SHOOT. WE ACTUALLY DO ALL OTHER ACTIVITIES. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE ONE OF THE FIRST ORGANIZATIONS THAT STARTED A DRUG AWARENESS EDUCATION PROGRAM BACK IN THE '80S. FINALLY, WE ARE THE ORGANIZATION THAT STARTED FLAG DAY. YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT FAMOUS MEMBERS OF THE ELKS. ONE OF THEM WAS HARRY TRUMAN, WHO ACTUALLY WAS A KANSAS CITY LODGE MEMBER FROM 26.' HE IS THE ONE THAT BASICALLY DECIDED THIS NEEDS TO BECOME A NATIONAL THING. NOW WE CELEBRATE FLAG DAY BECAUSE OF THE ELKS. THE ELKS HAVE BEEN CELEBRATING IT SINCE 1909 AND EVERY YEAR, EVERY LODGE IS REQUIRED TO PUT ON A FLAG DAY CEREMONY. WE WILL BE DOING THAT STARTING THIS YEAR ON JUNE 14TH. I GOT 10 SECONDS LEFT. ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUICK MEMBERS. JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS A MEMBER. GERALD FORD, FDR, BABE RUTH, CLINT EASTWOOD, ARNOLD PALMER IS A MEMBER OF THE SYCAMORE LODGE, AND ELI MANNING, VINCE LOMBARDI, AND BEN AFFLECK. FINALLY, IF YOU KNOW OUR REPRESENTATIVE, LYNN'S STUCKEY, HE'S A FELLOW MEMBER OF THE DENTIN LODGE. ONCE AGAIN, I'M SORRY, I'M TAKING A LOT OF TIME, BUT JUST REAL QUICK REMINDER, FEBRUARY 28, 7:00 O'CLOCK. WE HAVE FLYERS ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE. PLEASE TAKE ON THE WAY OUT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOMING EVERYBODY. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NON-POLITICAL, WE ARE STRICTLY AMERICAN IF YOU BELIEVE IN AMERICA, WE WANT YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE ELKS LODGE. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OKAY. >> ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? ALL RIGHT, THAT'LL MOVE US INTO OUR REPORTS SECTION OUT IN FIVE IS OUR LIBRARY REPORT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M SHELLEY HOLLEY, THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR. YOU HAVE MY REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS EXCEPT PROBABLY THE ONE YOU REALLY WANT TO ASK. [LAUGHTER]. THAT IS, WE WILL ANNOUNCE THE OPENING DATE WHEN WE HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS NAILED DOWN IN THE BUILDING, BUT WE DID HAVE TO MOVE WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED AS A DATE FOR FEBRUARY 4TH TO EARLY MARCH. IF YOU'LL WATCH OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL ANNOUNCE AS SOON AS THERE'S SOME CRITICAL STEPS THAT HAVE TO BE HIT BEFORE WE CAN DO THAT. I WAS HOPING BILL WOULD COME TODAY AND SAY THEY'D BEEN HIT. THERE ARE STILL ISSUES. THE BUILDING IS GREAT, THINGS ARE GOING WELL, IT'S JUST THAT DARN SUPPLY CHAIN THAT LIMITS SOME EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED AND SETUP. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> JUST HAD TO BE PATIENT A LITTLE LONGER, WE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING. >> THE LIBRARY BRANCH AT CONNECTION IS STILL OPEN FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GET MATERIALS THERE. THOSE WHO HAVE MATERIALS AND WANT TO RETURN THEM CAN RETURN THEM TO CONNECTION OR THE FAC WHERE WE HAVE A RETURN BIN. [01:50:09] >> WOULD YOU MIND DOING A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR SOME OF THE ONLINE RESOURCES AVAILABLE? >> ACTUALLY, THAT'S RIGHT, OUR ONLINE BRANCHES ARE FULLY FUNCTIONING. E-BOOKS ARE READILY AVAILABLE. OUR CLASSES THAT WE TEACH ONLINE ARE READILY AVAILABLE. A LOT OF OUR ENHANCED SERVICES THAT HAVE DIGITAL ELEMENTS TO THEM ARE ALL READILY AVAILABLE. IT IS JUST PRINT BOOKS AND THE ACTUAL SPACE ITSELF, IT'S LIMITED. THANK YOU. >> THAT MOVES US TO OUR PARKS AND REC MONTHLY REPORT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JUST HAVE ONE QUICK UPDATE FROM OUR CULTURAL AFFAIRS GROUP. THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE. THEY'VE BEEN BUSY WITH OUR DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE, HOT DOGS, AND HIGH HEELS, AND COMING UP IN THE NEXT WEEK, WE ADD MUSIC IN THE CHAMBER WITH OLIVER RAJAMANI. THEN WE HAVE SCHEDULED THE FESTIVAL OF COLORS FOR MARCH 11TH OUT OF INDEPENDENCE PRACTICE SITE. QUICKLY BECOMING ONE OF OUR MORE POPULAR EVENTS, WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND THE CITIZENS TO GO OUT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I DID SEE AN ADDITIONAL EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON THE 26TH. IT'S LIKE AN OPEN MIC. CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? [OVERLAPPING] >> IT IS. IT'S THE LISTENING ROOM WHICH WILL BE OVER AT THE DISCOVERY CENTER. THERE'S INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S AN EVENT THAT OUR STAFF IS PUTTING TOGETHER, SO VERY EXCITING AT THE DISCOVERY CENTER AND MORE INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE, SO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT. APPRECIATE IT, TAMMY. >> THE QUESTIONS. THANK STEVE. >> LET'S TAKE THIS ITEM 7, ON OUR ENGINEERING REPORT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. PAUL KNIPPEL DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES. I REPORT IS GOING TO BE MOVING TO THIS DASHBOARD STORYBOARD ON OUR CAPITAL PROJECT REPORTING. THIS ONE HERE WILL BE OUR PARKS CIP SHEET. THIS IS IN A DRAFT FORM RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY OF THE LINES ON THERE AND SEE WHEN THAT SEGMENT OF TRAIL, THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF THE TRAIL SEGMENTS THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY. THEN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE ROADS AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS ON HERE AS WELL. BASED ON SOME COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVE, WILL FILL IN A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD SPREADSHEET FORMATS IN THE PAST. YOU CAN CLICK ON THOSE AND OPEN THE SPREADSHEETS. WE THINK THIS WILL BE MORE USEFUL, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET PROJECT TIMING IN THERE WHEN WE'RE STARTING DESIGN, WHEN WE'RE STARTING CONSTRUCTION, WHEN DOES CONSTRUCTION END. FUNDING AND FUNDING SOURCES. WE'LL GET ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT PUT IT IN A PACKAGE LIKE THIS. HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE ONLINE AND A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR EVERYONE TO USE. WITH THAT, THAT'S OUR REPORT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> I WILL SAY I HAVE BOOKMARKED THE ROAD ONCE ON MY PHONE. IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY USEFUL BECAUSE GETTING CITIZEN QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME AND IT'S BEEN A PULLED UP. SEE IT. EXACTLY RIGHT THERE. IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT TOOL. THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK ON THAT. >> I'LL ADD TO THAT I WAS THE ONE THAT ALWAYS PULLED UP THE WORKSHEETS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS USED TO SPREADSHEETS. I SPENT SOME TIME WITH IT THE OTHER DAY AND THEY KEPT MOST OF IT FIGURED OUT. BUT I'M I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I'LL CALL YOU ON, BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT FRIENDLIER FROM A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE AND EASIER TO FIND A SPECIFIC PROJECT IF A RESIDENT'S LOOKING FOR SOMETHING. GREAT WORK ON THAT. >> OKAY GRAY. >> THANK YOU. >> LET'S SEE. ITEM 8, PUBLIC WORKS. GOT THROWN OFF THERE. I WASN'T USED TO THEM BEING SEPARATED. [LAUGHTER] >> I'M THE NEW GUY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS MY FIRST ONE. PAUL, WHICH BUTTON DO I PUSH? [LAUGHTER] >> THERE WE GO. SORRY, I'LL LEARN. YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY USED TO SEEING THIS VISUAL. I LIKE TO KEEP THIS IN HERE TO SEE WHAT OUR TRENDS ARE GOING TO BE AS WE'RE GOING UP AND DOWN, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET INTO SUMMERTIME, WE'LL BE DOING A BIG PUSH ON THE WATER RESOURCES FRONT TO HOPEFULLY MITIGATE SOME OF THESE INITIAL INCREASES AS WE GET INTO THE IRRIGATION SEASON. BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WAS THE WINTER WEATHER EVENT. THIS WAS NOT IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE THE WINTER WEATHER THAT HAPPENED AFTER WE'D ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR MONTH REPORT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ABOUT WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DO IT, AND ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GOES AROUND TO THIS. PD FIRE FACILITY SERVICES ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HELPS MAKE THIS HAPPEN. BUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT IS A CHART OF STORM-RELATED CALLS. METERS TYPICALLY TURN ONS, TURN OFFS, LEAKS. [01:55:04] THE STREETS LOOKS LOW, BUT TYPICALLY THE STREETS CALLS AS THEY COME IN FROM DIRECTLY FROM DISPATCH GOES STRAIGHT TO THE SUPERVISOR ON CALL. SO A LOT OF THOSE AREN'T RECORDED IN THE CITY WORKS AT. THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CALLS. THOSE ARE PEOPLE SAYING, "HEY, MY TRASH DIDN'T GET PICKED UP. SO THOSE GET FUNNELED THROUGH OUR CSR IS OVER ENVIRONMENTAL". THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE ROUTES THAT WE RUN. WE RUN SEVEN ROUTES. WE PUT OUT 512 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND. AS SOON AS THE EVENT HAPPENS, WE GO TO 12-HOUR SHIFTS, SIX TO SIX. THEN NOW ON THE BACK END OF THE PROJECT, WE GET TO GO SWEEP IT UP. YOU'LL SEE ARE MR. SWEEPER OUT, YOU'LL SEE OUR SWEEPER OUT. WE TRY TO CAPTURE AS MUCH AS THAT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. YOU'LL SEE ABOUT ACTIVE AND I THINK WE SURVIVED THE EVENT PRETTY WELL. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS. BUT JUST LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO IN GETTING THE ROAD SANDED. WE HAPPEN TO BE IN THE MIDST OF MOVING DURING THE STORM AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THROUGH SOME SURROUNDING CITIES AS WE WERE TRYING TO PICK UP SOME ITEMS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FRISCO ROADS AND SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING CITY ROADS WERE LIKE NIGHT AND DAY. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE WE FELT SO MUCH SAFER WHEN WE WERE BACK IN FRISCO PROPER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. >> THAT ONE MOVE US TO ITEM 9, ON COUNCIL'S SUBCOMMITTEE AND REPORTS. COUNCIL, WHAT UPDATES DO YOU HAVE? >> I DO HAVE ONE FROM THE VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IN MARCH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A VIETNAM WAR VETERAN PROCLAMATION. ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND. THE VETERANS RESOURCE EXPO IS GOING TO BE SCHEDULED AROUND THE 20TH AND 21ST OF SEPTEMBER. JUST MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE EVENT. NUMEROUS RESOURCES FOR PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND FINANCIAL HEALTH FOR OUR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THE AMERICAN LEGION IS MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE 20TH AT THE GROVES 6:30 PM. >> BUDGET AUDIT HAD A SPECIAL BUDGET AUDIT MEETING TODAY TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE NEXT BUDGET REVISION THAT WE WILL SEE AT OUR 21ST MEETING, MARCH 7TH MEETING. SORRY. REALLY, THE CRUX THAT WILL DEAL WITH MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. STAFF'S BEEN REVIEWING MARKET ADJUSTMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD AND ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, NOT JUST POLICE FIRE, BUT EVERY DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ADJUST THOSE PAY RANGES AS WELL AS SALARY FOR MANY OTHER PERSONNEL IN THE CITY. YOU GET A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THAT ON MARCH 7TH. >> ANY OTHER UPDATES? >> THAT'LL TAKE US TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, SORRY, [NOISE] OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND ARE CONSIDERED NON-CONTROVERSIAL. THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. MAJORITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO MOVE ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND SEPARATE ACTION. COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY SINGLE ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT AND MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD. COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ITEMS 10 THROUGH 19 FOR CONSIDERATION. >> WOULD APPROVE ITEMS 10 THROUGH 19? >> MOTION BY BILL. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ANGELA. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES, 6-0. THAT'LL MOVE US TOWARD LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. THESE ITEMS MAY LEGALLY REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION, BUT BY COUNCIL, POLICIES SHOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY. THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. THE CONCURRENCE OF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED TO MOVE ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION. COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY SINGLE ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT AND MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD COUNCIL. WE'VE HAD A REQUEST TO PULL ITEM 21. >> MOVED TO PULL ITEM 21. >> MOTION BY BILL. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY BRIAN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 60. THAT ITEM HAS BEEN PULLED. I'LL LOOK FOR THE MOTION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS. >> MOVED TO APPROVE 2022. >> MOTION BY BILL. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY JOHN, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 60. ITEM 21 IS CONSIDERED AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE STANDARD FOR A NUMBER OF BUILDING STORIES FROM ANYWHERE, HOW SELF-STORAGE FACILITY ON ONE LOT ON EIGHT ACRES IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FRISCO STREET AND RESEARCH RED ZONE COMMERCIAL ONE NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 46, SPECIFIC USE PERMANENT CASE NUMBER, SUP 22-0006, APPLICANT, FRED GANZ. >> MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. JOHN LETTELLEIR, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ON THIS CASE, YOU DID DIRECT CITY STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE THAT THE MEETING BOUGHT A BOAT OF SIX TO ZERO. WE DID HAVE A LETTER OF OPPOSITION WHICH REPRESENTS 26 PERCENT OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WHEN IT EXCEEDS 20 PERCENT, THEN IT REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE BY A CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT. THAT'S THREE-QUARTERS OF CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING THE MAYOR. IT WOULD TAKE SIX VOTES TONIGHT TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT, [02:00:03] DID VISIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE EARLIER TODAY TO CONFIRM THAT IS INDEED THE CASE. IT WILL TAKE SIX VOTES TO APPROVE THIS CASE TONIGHT. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> LET'S SEE. TRACY MILLER. OH, SORRY. YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE DO APPRECIATE THE PULLING OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE COULD BE HEARD TONIGHT. MY NAME IS TRACY MILLER, 16950 DALLAS PARKWAY. I REPRESENT 165 FOR SCUTTLE AWAY PARTNERS, THE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING CASE. TWICE, WE HAVE EXPRESSED OUR OPPOSITION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, MAINLY WAITING ON INFORMATION BACK FROM THE DEVELOPER OR ANYONE FROM THE CITY. THIS IS A CASE WITH THREE PARTS TO IT. THE USED. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A SPECIAL USE PERMIT NEED FOR MANY STORAGE BECAUSE IT'S USED, IT'S NOT VERY DESIRABLE. NUMBER TWO IS THE HEIGHT, THE CURRENT ZONING LAWS FOR TWO-STORY AND THREE, A ROAD ALIGNMENT ISSUE. WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM MR. JASON FORD, HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHO TOLD US HE WILL FUN PART OF THIS PROJECT AND DEVELOPER WILL BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH US. WE HAD AN INITIAL MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND AT THAT TIME HE DID NOT KNOW SPECIFICS. WE WERE TOLD HE WOULD GET BACK TO US, BUT WE NEVER HEARD FROM HIM AGAIN. AFTER P&Z TABLE THE PROJECT INITIALLY, THE CITY HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, HOWEVER, NO ONE REACHED OUT TO US. WE FINALLY REACHED JASON FORD WHO SAID THAT THE CITY WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE DEVELOPER WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH THIS. BUT WE NEVER HEARD FROM HIM. WE CALLED MR. LETTELLEIR TO SEE IF WE COULD GET INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE ROAD SITUATION AND GOT TO TALK TO HIM THE DAY OF THE P&Z MEETING, HE SUGGESTED THAT HE WOULD HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COLLIS, WHICH HE DID. MR.JOEL FITZ CALLED AND EXPLAINED THAT THE ROAD IS NOT ALIGNED YET, AND WAS SURPRISED THE DEVELOPER DID NOT DISCUSS IT WITH US FURTHER. HE SUGGESTED THAT THESE PLANS MIGHT NEED TO BE COMPLETELY CHANGED DEPENDING ON THE ROAD SITUATION. GIVEN THAT THE PLANTS MAY COMPLETELY CHANGE, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. WELL THAT THE ROAD ALIGNMENT BEING RESOLVED WITH ALL NEARBY OWNERS AND CITY STAFF. I'M HERE TO ASK, DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO MAKE MODIFIED FOUR-STORY MANY WAREHOUSE LOOK ATTRACTIVE FROM THE HALLWAY? ALSO CAN ANYONE PLEASE PROVIDE ALIGNMENT INFORMATION ON THIS PROPOSED ROAD? THE ONLY PLANS WE'VE SEEN WERE FROM THE P&Z EXHIBIT AND SHOULD HAVE FOR THE ROAD ON OUR PROPERTY AND NO ONE HAS EVER DISCUSSED THIS ALIGNMENT WITH US. YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, WE LISTENED TO THE P&Z MEETING THAT WAS HELD IN DECEMBER 13TH AND HEARD THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT BY MATTHIAS HALBERT, A BOWLER ENGINEERING. HE FAILED TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AS A CO-WORKER OF THE P&Z CHAIRMAN. HE ALSO MISREPRESENTED THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH HAD GIVEN VERBAL AGREEMENT ON [OVERLAPPING] >> WILL YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT IT AROUND A LITTLE HARDER BACK HERE AND I'M STARTING TO [INAUDIBLE]. >> JUST PULL DOWN THE MIC. >> I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. HE FAILED TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AS A CO-WORKER OF THE P&Z CHAIRMAN. HE ALSO MISREPRESENTED THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY TO SOUTH HAD GIVEN VERBAL AGREEMENT TO DEDICATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THIS PROJECT. IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THIS AFTERNOON BY THE MAYOR. THIS WAS HEARD BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 17TH. I HAD BEEN LOOKING AT THE COUNCIL AGENDAS POSTED AND HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR GARAGES OF AMERICA AS IT HAD BEEN LISTED ON THE P&Z AGENDAS. LEARN TODAY THAT WHEN IT WAS ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA, THE NAME GARAGES OF AMERICA HAD BEEN DROPPED AND IT WAS UNDER THE NAME OF JOHN FERGUSON. NOW ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, IT'S LISTED AS FRED GANS. I WAS LUCKY TO HAVE FOUND IT THIS TIME. IF NOT KNOWING WHAT NAME TO LOOK FOR WAS MY MISTAKE. I APOLOGIZE AND ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES. IN ANY EVENT AND HAS BEEN MISREPRESENTED, THAT THE ADJACENT OWNER IS AN AGREEMENT, AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE'RE IN OPPOSITION TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21. >> I SPOKE TO ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL THIS AFTERNOON WHO ECHOED SOME OF THOSE SAME SENTIMENTS. TYPICALLY ON THESE DO YOU GET ADJACENT LANDOWNERS? I MEAN, PART OF THIS ROAD IS ON THEIR PROPERTY DESIGNED. >> THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PROPERTY THAT GETS DEVELOPED. WE'RE TRYING TO STRADDLE THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE POSSIBLE, AND JUST AS MEETING OPENINGS ARE STEPPING THE STREETS, [02:05:03] AND SO THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. ONE THING TO POINT OUT, WESSON AND I WAS DISCUSSING IT EARLIER TODAY. I WENT BACK OUT AND LOOKED AT THE SIDE. THE APRON FOR THE RESEARCH ROAD TO BE EXTENDED HAS BEEN THERE FOR I DON'T KNOW FOR HOW LONG. THAT WAS BUILT IN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY. NO IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE ON OFF-SITE. BUT IT DOES GIVE THE INDICATION THAT THAT ROAD, RESEARCH ROAD IS GOING TO BE EXTENDING WEST AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THE PATH THAT IT TAKES, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE AND HOW THAT WILL BE DONE YET. NORMALLY, WE GET AN ALIGNMENT STUTTERED BEFORE THAT ROAD IS EXTENDED OVER TO POTENTIALLY DALLAS PARKWAY. BUT ONE THING I WANT TO ADD THAT WAS MENTIONED AS FAR AS MR. MATTHIAS NOT STATING HIS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHN KENDALL, NOTHING IMPROPER HAPPEN. JOHN KENDALL SIGN THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHICH IS REQUIRED AND HE STEPPED DOWN FROM THE DAIS. SO JOHN WAS ABSENT FROM THE DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE WHEN IT WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BOTH TIMES. >> JOHN, IN REGARDS TO THE ROAD, IS IT POSSIBLE TO BUILD THAT PROJECT WITHOUT THE ROAD? OR IF HE STARTS TO BUILD OR WANTS TO START BUILDING THE PROJECT, HE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT ROAD ALIGNMENT AND WE'D ALL HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS OF DOING THE FINAL DETERMINATION WORK? >> WELL, LET ME HAVE JOEL COME UP. >> LET ME PULL UP AN EXHIBIT. IS THERE ONE? >> WE DON'T HAVE IT. >> OH, WE DON'T HAVE IT. WELL, I CAN DRAW A LITTLE EXAMPLE HERE. THERE'S TWO ISSUES WITH THE ROAD. THE ALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHERE DOES IT GO WHEN IT GOES PAST THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE SUP? BECAUSE THIS PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED IS RIGHT UP ON FRISCO STREET, AND SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THIS IS FRISCO STREET AND THIS IS EXISTING RESEARCH ROAD, THERE'S A VERY SMALL STUB FOR RESEARCH ROAD TO CONTINUE WEST AND THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HERE ON THIS CORNER. THE ROAD IS GOING TO GO IN STRAIGHT FOR SURE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO BOTH PROPERTIES, BOTH THE PROJECT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION AND ALSO IN THE FUTURE THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT. WHAT'S NOT KNOWN IS WHERE IT MIGHT WANT TO GO IN THE FUTURE IF IT GOES OVER AND CONNECTS TO DALLAS PARKWAY. SO THAT'S THE ALIGNMENT THAT'S NOT KNOWN. BUT WHAT IS KNOWN IS THE STRAIGHT PORTION BECAUSE IT JUST SIMPLY GO STRAIGHT WEST FROM ITS INTERSECTION AT FRISCO STREET, AND THEN IT HAS A POSSIBILITY OF GOING ANY ROUTE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH MIGHT WANT. THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WHEN TWO PROPERTIES ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER AND THERE'S A MEDIAN OPENING BECAUSE FRISCO STREET ONLY HAS SO MANY MEDIAN OPENINGS, AND THIS IS A MEDIAN OPENINGS, SO IT'S THE ONLY PLACE FOR BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES TO HAVE ACCESS TO A MEDIAN OPENING AND THIS HAPPENS A LOT WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS SHARE AN ACCESS POINT TO A MEDIAN OPENING. THAT ACCESS POINT AGAIN GOES BACK IN STRAIGHT FOR A CERTAIN DISTANCE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S A FIRE LANE, YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND SOMETIMES IT'S A ROAD, PUBLIC PROPERTY, BUT IT ALWAYS GOES IN IN-BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES, IS ON BOTH OF THEIR PROPERTIES HALF AND HALF RIGHT WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH THE ROAD. THEN AGAIN, ONCE YOU GET BACK A CERTAIN DISTANCE THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT CAN CHANGE ROUTE. THE ONLY ROUTE THAT THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDS IS THE STRAIGHT PORTION AND THEN THE FREEDOM OF CHANGING A ROUTE TO WHATEVER THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH MIGHT WANT IS THERE IN THE FUTURE, SO THEY CAN COME UP WITH WHATEVER ROUTE THEY WANT FOR THE ROAD OR EVEN NOT EVEN EXTEND IT ANYMORE THAN IT IS. >> BECAUSE THE BEST I CAN TELL, THE STRAIGHT PORTION BORDERS BOTH PROPERTIES AT THIS POINT. >> CORRECT. >> ANY CHANGES WOULD BE DOWN THE ROAD, AND HAD THE PROPERTY ON IN THE SOUTH SUBMITTED PLANS TO BUILD? WE WOULD HAVE HAD THEM SHOW THE ROAD HALFWAY AS WELL. >> YES. >> REGARDLESS OF WHICH DEVELOPMENT COMES FIRST, WE WOULD HAVE SAID YOU NEED TO PUT THIS ROAD AND IT'S GOING TO STRADDLE THE PROPERTY TO THE LINES? >> CORRECT. YES. >> THANK YOU. >> JOEL, WHILE YOU'RE STILL UP THERE, SPOKE MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD TOLD HER PLANS MAY NEED TO BE RECONSIDERED? >> THAT'S NOT REALLY THE WORDING I USED. INSTEAD, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CURVY PART OF THE ROAD. MEANING WHAT I HAD SAID TO HER WAS THAT THE ALIGNMENT HAD NOT YET BEEN DECIDED, HAD NOT BEEN FIGURED OUT AND THAT IT [02:10:01] COULD BE FIGURED OUT IN THE FUTURE WHEN SHE CAME IN TO DEVELOP HER LAND. THAT'S WHEN SHE HAD THE FREEDOM TO DETERMINE THE ROUTE OF THAT ROAD. BUT THE STRAIGHT PART OF THE ROAD, YES, THAT'S FIGURED OUT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE ONLY PLACE IT CAN BE. IT'S THE FUTURE WAVY PART THAT IS NOT DETERMINED AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PROPOSED. >> WAS THERE ANY PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WAS OVERLOOKED EITHER BY THE CITY OR WITH REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH, WITH THE CITY OR WITH THE APPLICANT? >> I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE WHAT CONVERSATIONS THE APPLICANT HAD WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT WE TELL SOMEONE WHO'S COMING IN, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YOU'RE DEVELOPING, YOU NEED PART OF THE, IN SOME CASES IT'S AN EASEMENT TO BUILD HALF OF A FIRE LANE. IN THIS CASE, IT'S RIGHT-OF-WAY TO BUILD HALF OF A ROAD AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND START WORKING THAT OUT. OFTENTIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY'LL TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBOR WHO'S NOT [NOISE] AND THEY'LL SAY, HERE'S THIS SHARED ACCESS POINT. I'LL BUILD THE ROAD, MY COST. YOU'LL DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND YOU CAN SHARE THE ROAD. THAT'S USUALLY HOW IT WORKS WITH MOST DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT COMMUNICATIONS THIS PROPERTY ON HER HAD WITH THE SOUTHERN ONE, THAT I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE DO NOT NORMALLY GET INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION. IT'S BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. WE'RE REALLY NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. >> WE DON'T NEED TO BEFORE VOTING ON THIS, IS IT NECESSARY FOR US TO TABLE THIS AND LET GOOD NEIGHBORS GO TRY TO HASH IT OUT OR WOULD IT NOT MATTER ON THIS DEVELOPMENT I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING ON? >> NOTHING GETS CONSTRUCTED FROM AN SUP. THE NEXT THING THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN WITH WOULD BE A SITE PLAN, AND THAT SHOWS WHAT THEY INTEND TO BUILD. A SITE PLAN IS A ZONING DOCUMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE A SITE PLAN, BUT NOTHING ACTUALLY GETS CONSTRUCTED FROM THAT. THE NEXT STAGE IS A SITE PLAN AND THEN IT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD, AND AGAIN, IT WILL LOOK LIKE THE SUP. THAT'S THE STAGE WHEN WE SAY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GO WORK THIS OUT WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY MOVE YOUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR NEIGHBORS AGREEMENT THEM TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND SO FORTH. >> THERE'S STILL TIME AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD? >> YES. >> I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BUILD ANYTHING UNTIL THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON THAT ROAD? >> CORRECT. >> BOTH PARTIES WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO IT. >> CORRECT. >> THE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP THIS AFTERNOON IS THE THREE-STORY 40-FOOT RESTRICTION, AND I GUESS ONE STORY IS ACTUALLY SUBGRADE. WHAT DO YOU MEASURE 40 FEET FROM BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT TRICKS OF? >> WELL, THERE'S NO TRICKS IN THERE, SO THREE STORIES WITHIN 40 FEET. THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT IS 40 FEET, AND IT SAYS TWO STORES. THEY ARE STAYING WITHIN THAT 40 FEET, BUT THEY'RE JUST DOING THREE LEVELS. THAT'S AT GRADE LEVEL, NOT INCLUDING WHAT'S BELOW GROUND. THEY'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT ON THIS PROPERTY, IT'S STILL 40 FEET. ONE THING TO ADD REGARDING THIS ROAD, THAT ROAD BENEFITS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH MORE THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A ROAD TO SUB-DIVIDE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE EVERY LOT HAS TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET. THAT ALLOWS THEM SINCE THERE'S A GREAT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE DALLAS PARKWAY AND FRISCO STREET TO SUBDIVIDE THAT PROPERTY FURTHER. >> IF THEY CHOSE TO. >> IF THEY CHOSE TO, YES. >>WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? >> IS THERE ANYTHING, I MEAN, I LIKE THE GARAGES PROJECT. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT US APPROVING THAT TONIGHT? THAT BASICALLY IS THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE OF THE ROAD OR BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING? THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> THEY NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION. >> YOU NEED TO COME UP, PLEASE. >> I HEARD YOU SAY BOTH. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THINK THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE PROJECT ITSELF. >> WE ARE OPPOSING BOTH, AND THE REASON IS IS THE LOCATION. THIS IS RIGHT ON THE DALLAS TOLLWAY. THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT YOU SEE. YOU'VE GOT VENUES LIKE THE PGA. THERE WAS ALL THE TALK OF UNIVERSAL STUDIOS COMING TONIGHT. THE SOCCER HALL OF FAME. THESE VENUES WITHIN SIGHT DISTANCE THAT HAVE HUGE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL IMPORTANCE, [02:15:04] IT'S GOING TO BE A MINI WAREHOUSE VISIBLE FROM THE TOLLWAY. THAT IS GOING TO BE UNSIGHTLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN ALSO THE ROAD. IT'S ALSO COMMUNICATION. WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS AND NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO GIVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE GETTING, AND IT'S A NEIGHBOR. >> JEFF, I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM OR IS THERE ANOTHER ITEM? [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S THIS GENTLEMAN. >> YES, SIR. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. >> WE'LL NEED A BLUE CARD FROM YOU WHEN YOU'RE DONE. >> YES. >> OKAY. MY NAME IS FRED GANS. I'M THE OWNER OF GARAGES OF AMERICA. MY ADDRESS IS 2323 TARPLEY, CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75006. WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS DISTURBING BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ELABORATE AMOUNT OF COMMUNICATION. THERE WAS NO POOR COMMUNICATION, PERIOD. I MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING, HOW WE WERE DEVELOPING, WHAT THE IMAGES WERE REFLECTING AND THERE WAS ONE PROBLEM THAT SCHULLER HAD, WHICH WAS THE SELF STORAGE BECAUSE SHE PREFERRED AN OFFICE BUILDING. WELL, I'VE NEVER SEEN A SELF STORAGE FACILITY AS WE'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT, THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING THAN THAT. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT WAS A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. WE HAD THREE MEETINGS, SO IT BOTHERS ME WHEN SOMEBODY GETS UP AND MAKES THOSE COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS THAT ARE NON COMMUNICATED. WE'RE FRIENDS. THEY KNOW MY PHONE NUMBER. THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHERE I KNEW THAT THE OPPOSITION WAS NOT GOING TO CHANGE, SO IT WAS A MOOT POINT TO FURTHER DISCUSS IT. BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS ABLE AND AVAILABLE TO ASK ME IN AND FURTHER DISCUSS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING, SO THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING WITHHELD. THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR THE GARAGES, BUT NOT THE SELF-STORAGE STRICTLY BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF MATERIALS THAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD BE TYPICAL OF SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. WELL, THIS IS ANYTHING BUT THAT. I THINK YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE ELEVATIONS AND THE RENDERINGS TO UNDERSTAND THE QUALITY OF WHAT WE'RE BUILDING AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE AGREED TO AND FULLY EXECUTED. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE HEARING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STORY, BUT 90 PERCENT OF WHAT WAS STATED IS NOT ACCURATE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THAT'S ALL, BUT OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? >> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR, BUT JUST HEARING BOTH PARTIES, IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNICATION CONTINUES TO BE THE ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO COMMUNICATE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WORTH ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. YOU REFERENCED THAT YOU WERE AT SOME POINT FRIENDS. FEELS LIKE THE HATFIELDS AND MCCOYS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT. IF COMMUNICATION OR THE LACK THEREOF IS THE ISSUE, I THINK HAVING THAT PRIVATE CONVERSATION AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS MIGHT HELP TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT. >> WELL, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS. I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION. >> JUST BEFORE WE DO THAT, IS THE TIMING AN ISSUE AND IF WE DELAY IT IS IT GOING TO CAUSE AN ISSUE FOR THE DEVELOPER? [BACKGROUND] >> WE HAVE ALREADY SOLD THIS PROJECT OUT. ALL THE GARAGES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED CONTRACTUALLY. WE'RE WAY DOWN THE ROAD. BY THE WAY, WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY, AND LONG, AND HARD WITH JASON FORD AND JASON HAS ATTEMPTED TO WORK WITH THEM. MY COMMUNICATION WITH JASON, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR HIM, IS THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR HALF OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT THEY WEREN'T WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, SO WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MEET EVERY NECESSARY DEMAND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED, AND WE OWN THE REAL ESTATE. WE ARE AS PREGNANT AS WE CAN BE. [02:20:01] >> I WOULD ADD IT. I DO AGREE WITH ANGELA. I HOPE THE TWO OF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT AS A CITY ISSUE EITHER. >> I AGREE. >> IF THE DEVELOPER IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD, MR. MAYOR, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS. I THINK NO MATTER WHAT THIS ROAD WOULD GET BUILT AND SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROPERTIES AND THOSE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT [OVERLAPPING] IN OUR PURVIEW ON THIS SUP. >> WELL, IF THAT'S A MOTION, I WOULD SECOND IT. >> MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY BRIAN, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> OPPOSE. THAT MOTION PASSES SIX, ZERO. THAT'LL MOVE US INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM 23 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REQUESTS TO REPEAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 09-04-17, CONSISTING OF 36.2 ACRES ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND WARREN PARKWAY. TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 11-04-09 AS AMENDED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE TO RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, AND TO CONSIDER TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE OF THE SAME ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 196, MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 35, ZONING CASE NUMBER Z22-0017, APPLICANT CITY OF FRISCO TABLED 1/3/2023. >> MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THIS ITEM WAS TABLED FROM YOUR JANUARY MEETING TO THIS MEETING, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO TABLE THE MEETING. HE WAS LOOKING AT THE 21ST, SUBMIT AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, INSTEAD I WAS LOOKING AT MARCH 7TH, SINCE THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER CASE BEING DISCUSSED THAT NIGHT. HE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE TABLING TO THE MARCH 7TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I THINK WE HAD CONTINUED THAT PREVIOUSLY. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE HAVE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE JUST NEED TO TABLE? [OVERLAPPING] >> TABLE AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WAS PREVIOUSLY TABLED, SO, RICHARD, DO WE NEED TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE FIRST THEN? >> IF YOU NEED TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE, AND THEN SINCE WE HAVE IT HERE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK, THAT'S FINE BUT THEN TABLE IT, AND I WILL CONTINUE, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO CONTINUE, DON'T YOU? >> MOVE TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE? >> MOTION BY BILL. >> SECOND. [OVERLAPPING]. >> SECOND BY JOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES SIX, ZERO. ITEM IS REMOVED FROM THE TABLE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> SEEING NONE, I MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE IT TO THE MARCH 7TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY JOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES SIX, ZERO. THAT WILL MOVE US TO ITEM 24, A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. A REQUESTS FOR THE CONTINUATION OF ARTICLE 5, THE JUVENILE CURFEW OF CHAPTER 54 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FRISCO, TEXAS RELATING TO JUVENILE CURFEW. UNDER TEXAS LAW, THE JUVENILE CURFEW ORDINANCE MUST BE REVIEWED AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD ON THE NEED TO CONTINUE THE ORDINANCE EVERY THREE YEARS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KYLE PEMBERTON. I'M A LIEUTENANT ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE JUVENILE CURFEW ORDINANCE FOR RENEWAL. JUVENILE CURFEW ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2007, AND IT HAS BEEN RENEWED EVERY THREE YEARS. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, TO THE DEFENSES OR TO THE DEFENSES OF PROSECUTION. WE BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE IS A USEFUL TOOL IN KEEPING OUR YOUTH SAFE. THE CURRENT ITEM IS FOR PUBLIC HEARING. THE VERY NEXT ITEM IS FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION. WE BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE RECOMMEND RENEWAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> MOTION BY JOHN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ANGELA. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES SIX, ZERO. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. [APPLAUSE] IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE]? >> HE WASN'T EXPECTING THAT. >> NO [LAUGHTER] ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? [INAUDIBLE] MOVE TOO CLOSE. MOTION BY JOHN. SECOND. SECOND BY ANGELIA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES, 6-0. I THINK THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN PLACE IN 2007, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. I REMEMBER IT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETINGS. [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING. AS WE DISCUSSED THAT, NOT I REMEMBER VIVIDLY THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE AS A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX THAT YOU CAN USE IF YOU SEE INCIDENTS AND I THINK AS YOU SAID, IT SERVED THE COMMUNITY WELL, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE? LET'S SEE. WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM. ITEM 25 IS CONSIDERED AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE CONTINUING. ARTICLE 5, THE JUVENILE CURFEW OF CHAPTER 54, THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FRISCO. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 370.002, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND MAKING FINDINGS RELATED THERE TOO. COUNCIL, IF YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION? WOULD YOU APPROVE ITEM 25? MOTION BY BILL. SECOND. SECOND BY ANGELIA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT MOTION PASSES, 6-0. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [02:25:01] THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM 26, CONSIDERED AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING EIGHT ELECTION PRECINCTS FOR SATURDAY, MAY 6TH, 2023 GENERAL ELECTION, AND EACH SUBSEQUENT MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF FRISCO, COLIN AND DENTON COUNTIES AS ORDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS RELATING THERE TOO AND PROVIDING A SAVINGS REPEALING CLAUSE, SEPARABILITY CLAUSE, IN AN EFFECTIVE DATE. YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BECAUSE WE ARE NAMING NEW POLLING LOCATIONS THIS YEAR WE HAVE TO REDO OUR CITY PRECINCTS TO INCORPORATE THOSE NEW POLLING LOCATIONS, SO THIS IS WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS DOING. IN AN EFFORT TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TAKEN AWAY ALL THE SCHOOLS AS POLLING LOCATIONS AND WE ARE ALL VOTING IN EITHER GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS OR COLLEGES INSTEAD OF TAKING VOTING INSIDE THE SCHOOL. CHRISTIE, JUST TO CLARIFY. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A WORK SESSION SOMEWHERE, BUT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTENING, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'VE MOVED AWAY FROM THE SCHOOLS IS BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS DURING SCHOOL HOURS FOR EARLY VOTING AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WANTED THAT MOVE AND AGREE TO THAT MOVE AS WELL BECAUSE HISTORICALLY WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THEM. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 26 BY JOHN. SECOND. SECOND BY ANGELIA. ALL IN FAVOR? [OVERLAPPING] AYE. MOTION PASSES, 6-0. LET'S TAKE A SIGN 27 CONSIDERED AN ACT UPON AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FRISCO CALLING A BOND ELECTION FOR PROPOSITIONS PROVIDING FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT. [NOISE] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND CATHERINE AND [NOISE] CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY. THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED A CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022 AND THE COMMITTEE MET MOSTLY ON MONDAY NIGHTS FROM OCTOBER UNTIL TUESDAY, JANUARY 17TH, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING WITH YOU AS A FULL CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT THE PROPOSAL THEY ARE PUTTING FORWARD TONIGHT FOR A CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE BOND PROJECTS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE. MOST OF THEM ARE HERE TONIGHT, I THINK. MR. BARNES WAS OUR CHAIR. THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY ENGAGED. WE HAD GREAT ATTENDANCE AND WE RECEIVED A LOT OF CITIZEN INPUT OVER THOSE FEW MINUTES THAT WE MET. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT PRESENTED THEIR CIP PROGRAMS AND PLANS TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. IT'S ALL BASED ON OUR FIVE-YEAR PLANNING STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE. THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DID A GOOD JOB OF DOING THEIR PRESENTATIONS. I'D LIKE TO THANK CHRISTIE AND JULIE FOR COMING AND TAKING MINUTES EVERY MONDAY NIGHT. THEN OF COURSE, JENNIE HART AND OUR DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND STRATEGIC PLANNING AND BRETT PETERSON, OUR TREASURY MANAGER KEEP EVERYTHING IN LINE AND KEPT THE COMMITTEE COORDINATED, SO I APPRECIATE THEM. WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. IT'S AN EITHER OR APPROVAL. ORDINANCE I INCLUDES FIVE PROPOSITIONS, AND I WANTED TO SHOW YOU. THIS IS THE COMMITTEE'S PRESENTATION THAT IS OUT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. ALL THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE, THE FINANCING MODELS, THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETINGS, AND OUR VIRTUAL SITE VISITS ARE ALL OUT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT CITIZENS CAN GO REVIEW IF THEY WISH. ORDINANCE I WOULD INCLUDES FIVE PROPOSITIONS, AND THOSE ARE THE FIRST FIVE ON THIS LIST. WE'VE GOT 131,400,000 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, 240 MILLION FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS, 39 MILLION FOR CITY SERVICE FACILITIES, 43 MILLION FOR PARKS, TRAILS, AND OPEN SPACE, AND 20 MILLION FOR A DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGE BEHIND THE OLD CITY BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN TO CONTINUE THAT REDEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE. THOSE FIVE PROPOSITIONS ARE WHAT ARE INCLUDED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS ORDINANCE A. ORDINATES B IS IDENTICAL TO ORDINANCE A EXCEPT WE DO ADD THE ANIMAL SHELTER FUNDING OF FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE. WHEN YOU DO YOUR MOTION YOU JUST NEED TO BE SPECIFIC TO EITHER SAY, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE A OR ORDINANCE B, IF YOU SO CHOOSE. JEFF. THEY DIDN'T CHANGE. WHICH ONES THAT IS A WITHOUT IT. I USE WITH A FIVE PROPOSITIONS, B IS WITH SIX PROPOSITIONS. JEFF GLOBUS, OUR BOND COUNCIL FROM MCCOLL PARKHURST IS HERE TONIGHT. HE WROTE THE ORDINANCES. THEN RON PITTMAN WITH ABERNATHY OFFICE TOO HELPED WITH SOME OF THE LEGAL ADVICE ON THE PROCEDURES. SINCE WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS SITUATION BEFORE WHERE WE HAD TWO ORDINANCES. [02:30:01] STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF EITHER ORDINANCE A OR ORDINANCE B TO CALL AN ELECTION FOR MAY 2023. THE DEADLINE TO CALL THAT ELECTION IS FEBRUARY 17TH, SO IT'S TONIGHT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS BOND ORDINANCE IS ONLY AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY TO ISSUE BONDS IN THE FUTURE, ANY BOND SALES, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU HAVE TO APPROVE INDIVIDUAL BOND SALES AT THE TIME. WE USUALLY DO FIVE-YEAR BOND PROJECTS. WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'M SURE MR. BARNES WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND LEGAL'S HERE WELL. YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME CITIZEN INPUT. I'M NOT SURE. [BACKGROUND] JUST A LITTLE. THANK YOU, ANITA. I WILL REITERATE THE COMMENTS, THANKING THE BOND COMMITTEE AND PETER IN YOUR LEADERSHIP FOR A LOT OF LONG HOURS WORKING, BEING OUR EYES AND EARS OUT THERE, ADVOCATING FOR POSITIONS AND THEN HAVING REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION WITH US. OUR JOINT MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE WENT SEVERAL HOURS OVER OUR INTENDED TIME, SO IT WAS REALLY HEALTHY DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE. [NOISE] WELL, WE CAN TAKE CITIZEN INPUT FIRST. THAT POINT STOOD UP. WE DO HAVE 13 CARDS, MR. MAYOR AND I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REDUCE THE SPEAKING TIME FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE. MOTION BY BILL. SECOND. I SECONDED THAT. SECONDED BY BRIAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSE? THE MOTION PASSES, 6-0. I'M NOT GOING TO BE A STICKLER ON THAT. JUST TRY YOUR BEST TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH YOUR TIME. EVERYONE I KNOW HAS BEEN HERE LATE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO KICK YOU OFF, WE HAVE THE STICKER ON THAT. GOOD. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW WHO'D WISH TO SPEAK EITHER IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER, AND SO I'LL JUST CALL OUT YOUR NAME AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. PARDON ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT TO PRONOUNCE THIS NAME, SO PARDON ME. IT'S ADITYA NIMBALAGUNDI. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ADITYA NIMBALAGUNDI AND I LIVE ON WALNUT RIDGE DRIVE, FRISCO, TEXAS, 75035. FIRSTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. IT REALLY MEANS A LOT. I'M A SOPHOMORE AT INDEPENDENCE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE CO-FOUNDER OF THE ANIMAL WELFARE AND RESCUE CLUB AT THE SCHOOL. TODAY, I COME HERE LESS AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT AND MORE AS A RESIDENT OF FRISCO. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THE CITIZENS OF FRISCO SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD AND TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ANIMALS SERVICES FACILITY. OUR EXPONENTIALLY GROWING CITY HAS NO ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY. AS THE CITY OF FRISCO, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE FRISCO HUMANE SOCIETY AND SHELTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO MULTIPLE CITIES SUCH AS THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. THEY ARE DOING MIRACLES FOR OUR ANIMALS YET THIS CITY HAS THE POTENTIAL AND THE MEANS TO BE A MAJORLY SELF-SUFFICIENT ONE AND ANIMAL SERVICES AND SHELTERS SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY AND ANIMAL ADVOCATES. THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER HAS NOW FOR SOME TIME BEEN SUBJECTED TO TAKING THE ANIMALS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY UNDER THE MCKINNEY SPCA EVER SINCE THE SHUTDOWN OF IT. WITH THIS, THE ISSUES URGENCY IS ONLY EMPHASIZED. CREATING AN ANIMAL SHELTER WOULD STOP THE OVERFLOW IN ANIMAL SHELTERS SUCH AS THE COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER, IMPROVING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF SUCH A CENTER FOR THOSE RESIDING IN FRISCO AND CREATE SAFER AND MORE SANITARY CONDITIONS FOR ANIMALS IN FRISCO. ADDITIONALLY, THIS NOT ONLY BENEFITS THE ANIMALS BUT IT CAN ALSO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS PET OWNERSHIP IS LINKED TO A VARIETY OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL BENEFITS. CONTINUING, I'VE BEEN HEARING FOR A LONG TIME THAT THE RESIDENTS OF FRISCO HAS BEEN WANTING AN ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY. RESPECTFULLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. MAYOR, AS THE REPRESENTERS, OUR COMMUNITY, SHOULDN'T WE BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CITY? IN THIS CONTEXT, [NOISE] WE WANT THE ANIMALS SERVICES FACILITY TO REMAIN ON THE BOND. IN SUMMARY, TODAY I'VE PROVIDED INFORMATION THAT ADVOCATES FOR ADDING AN ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY. WE ARE A CONCERN GROUP OF RESIDENTS VOICING OUR OPINIONS FOR OUR BELOVED ANIMALS IN FRISCO. [02:35:04] IN NO WAY HAS THIS INITIATIVE EVER MEANT TO BE PERCEIVED IN A CONTENTIOUS NATURE. WE ARE JUST CONFLICTED WITH URGENCY AND WE STRONGLY FEEL FOR THIS TOPIC. IN CONCLUSION, ADDING AN ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY IN FRISCO WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND GREATLY BENEFICIAL. IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY AND NOT BE PUSHED BACK FOR THE SAKE OF IMPLEMENTING OTHER PROJECTS. THANK YOU FOR BEING THE PROUD FACES OF FRISCO, AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> KATHLEEN WALSH [BACKGROUND] >> CHEEK AREA. >> KATHLEEN WALSH. >> I'LL SEE YOU. >> I SEE. >> KIM STEWART. > GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. OUR FAMILY MOVED TO FRISCO BACK 10 YEARS AGO. OUR FAMILY SPENDS MUCH OF OUR TIME VOLUNTEERING, WHETHER IT'D BE AT A SHELTER OR WHETHER IT BE WITH ONE OF OUR RESCUE CENTERS. WE FOSTER ANIMALS. >> DO YOU MIND IF YOU JUST LIFTING YOUR MIC A LITTLE BIT? THERE WE GO. >> I WOULD SAY THAT OUR FAMILY VOLUNTEERS MUCH OUR WEEKENDS WITH RESCUES AND WITH SHELTERS. I ASK OURSELVES, WHY DO WE DO THIS? WE DO THIS BECAUSE THE SHELTERS ARE FULL. WE ENCOUNTER ANIMALS DAY IN AND DAY OUT THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO BE AT EUTHANIZED. WE'VE VOLUNTEER AT A TIME BECAUSE TEXAS EUTHANIZED 52,106 ANIMALS IN 2020. WE HOPE THAT BY HAVING A SHELTER THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS EUTHANIZED WILL BE REDUCED. FRISCO IS A RELIGIOUS CITY, A CITY OF MANY RELIGIONS. YET WE SEE THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT RELIGION ENCOURAGES KINDNESS, IT'S TIME THAT WE START TO SHOW THAT KINDNESS TO OUR PETS, AND THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I'M HOPING THAT A SHELTER WILL BEGIN TO SHOW SOME KINDNESS TO OUR PETS AND SHELTERS OR PETS THAT ARE IN NEED, AND WE GOT VERY LONG TIME COMING. BUT I'M PRETTY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS UPDATE. >> MR. WALSH CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD? >> SORRY. 3208 CUMBERLAND, 75033. APOLOGIES. I'M VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS SUBJECT AND IT'S A BIT DIFFICULT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. [APPLAUSE] >> JAMES WHITMAN. >> GOOD EVENING. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? >> YEAH [LAUGHTER] >> MY EARS ARE DECORATED, BUT I COULDN'T HEAR EVERYTHING. BUT ANYWAY, I'LL SPEAK LOUDER, AND MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MR. CITY MANAGER, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. MY NAME IS JAMES WHITMAN AND MY WIFE AND I WERE TO LOOK AT 386130 WAY. WE'D BEEN IN FRISCO FOR 11 YEARS FROM KERATIN AND WE ENJOY IT, WE ENJOY IT HERE. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. THIS HAS BEEN A FIVE YEAR JOURNEY. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY OR ANIMAL SHELTER CERTAINLY. AS A MAYOR NOW, IF WE GO BACK FIVE YEARS WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT AND PROBABLY BEFORE THEN WITH OTHERS, WE TOOK THE GUIDANCE OF SEVERAL OF THE PREDECESSORS, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING, TELL US WHAT YOU WANT, FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT, AND IF YOU CAN GET IT TO THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE, THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE PORTAL TO GET IT TO THE CITIZENS AND HERE WE ARE. FIVE YEARS WE HAVE TAKEN THE GUIDANCE AND WE ARE HERE AND IT'S BEING PRESENTED AS ORDINANCE B TO INCLUDE A MERE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS WHICH CAN BE TOTALLY EQUITY. WHAT'S THE TERM I'M LOOKING FOR? COULD BE PAID FOR WITH THE MONEY WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING TO OUTSOURCE TO COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. THAT THAT MAKES COMMON SENSE. THE THING THAT MOST IMPACTING IS THAT WITH 225,000 PEOPLE, ACCORDING TO STATISTICS, 75,000 HOUSEHOLDS, PERHAPS, WE HAVE ABOUT 130-150,000 RESIDENTS WHO HAVE FOUR LEGGED HOUSEHOLD PETS. [02:40:05] THAT IS A BIG POPULATION THAT HAS TWO POTENTIAL BENEFITING, LIKE THIS YOUNG MAN SAID, FROM AN ANIMAL SERVICE FACILITY HERE. IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, THINKING ABOUT THAT, WHY WERE ALL THE OTHER CITIES AROUND US DOING IT? BUILDING THEM AND EXPANDING THEM TO BENEFIT THEIR CITIZENS. WITH THAT SAID, I JUST ASK THE CITY COUNCIL THINK THIS THROUGH AND PLEASE APPROVE ORDINANCE B TO INCLUDE AN ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE] >> JESSIE RINGAS. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU. I WILL BE BRIEF. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT NOTHING I SAY HERE TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST PRESENTER. SO SHOUT OUT TO YOU, THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT JOB. I WANTED TO SHARE A POST FROM THE BULK SPRINGS ANIMAL SHELTER AND IT READS, ANOTHER FUN SATURDAY MORNING. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO THREE DAYS AGO, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. PREPARING FOR OUR TALES TO TAILS PROGRAM. SO THAT IS T-A-L-E-S TO T-A-I-L-S, WHERE YOUNG KIDS GET TO GO TO THE SHELTER. THEY GET TO READ TO THE DOGS AND THAT'S A SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO OUR RESIDENTS. AS WELL AS OFFER OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR FISD TO HAVE SCHOOL TRIPS TO GO TO THE SHELTER AND READ TO THE DOGS AS WELL. I JUST LIKE THAT IDEA. TALES TO TAILS SOMETHING CATCHY, WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. THEN LASTLY, THE BOND COMMITTEE APPEARS TO HAVE DONE THE WORK THAT YOU-ALL HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO AND THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED TO PUT AN ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE BOND. I PLEASE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT ADVICE AND LET'S LET THE CITIZENS DECIDE. IF THE CITIZENS DON'T WANT THAT, THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME [APPLAUSE] >> MARLA FEELS. >> GOOD EVENING. MARLA FEELS, MY ADDRESS IS ON THE CARD AND MOST OF YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT I HAVE LIVED HERE ABOUT 15 YEARS BEFORE I MOVED. I REALLY STRUGGLED WITH WHAT I WANT TO JUST SAY THIS EVENING. I ACTUALLY HAD TWO SPEECHES. ONE WAS MY OWN AND ONE WAS REPRESENTING ALL OF THOSE WITH FRISCO'S PET PROJECT, BUT ALSO ALL THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE 2,000 FOLLOWERS, AND WE JUST GOT ABOUT 200 MORE. TO MY SURPRISE, SOMEBODY POSTED, IT'S NOT EVEN ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF OUR GROUP OR THE ANIMAL ADVOCATES THAT WE GET LUMPED ABOUT, AND KNOW IT WAS A COMPLETE STRANGER, UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, POSTED ON NEXT DOOR AND SAID, HEY, DID YOU ALL KNOW THERE ISN'T A SHELTER IN FRISCO AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ONE? THEY SAID, JUST CLICK THIS PETITION. MY PHONE BLEW UP. I GOT ABOUT 200 AND THEY'RE STILL COMING. I JUST CHECKED. THAT WAS REALLY A NICE AFFIRMATION THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS REALLY WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT. WE'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE, THEY GOT THEIR SHARE OF THE EMAILS AS WELL. THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE 150 OF THOSE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE A SINGLE ONE OF THEM. SOMEONE SAID IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE ONE NEGATIVE AGAINST THE SHELTER IN THOSE CITIZENS BOND EMAILS AND I'M SURE YOU-ALL HAVE GOTTEN YOUR SHARE OF EMAILS TOO, AND I APOLOGIZE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE CAN BE VERY ROUGH. WHILE YOU'VE SAID THAT POSTCARD CAMPAIGNS REALLY DON'T WORK, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A VOICE, AND SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SPEAKING OUT, AND TO MANY OF THEM LOOKING IN THIS HAS JUST BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT THE FINISH LINE JUST KEEPS MOVING ON US. WE KNOW YOU'VE TOLD US TO BE PATIENT, AND YOU SAID YOUR PATIENT WITH GRAND PARK AND YOU'VE BEEN PATIENT WITH THE ARTS AND YOU'VE BEEN PATIENT WITH THE DOG PARK, AND I THINK WE'VE ALSO BEEN PATIENT ON THIS. WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE TOLD US TO DO. WE FOLLOWED YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR ADVICE. YOU SAID THAT WAIT FOR THE BOND, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COME TO THE WINTER SESSIONS, SHOW US THE DATA. SHOW US THE PLANS SO THAT YOU CAN DO THIS WITH ONM, [02:45:02] THAT IT'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT. WE DID ALL THAT, AND SO DID THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE REALLY HOPE THAT YOU TOO WILL FOLLOW THAT LEAD AND LEAVE THIS ON THE BOND, AND JUST LET THAT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, MUCH LIKE IN 2006 WHEN YOU PUT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS DOWN. I THINK IT WAS EIGHT MILLION FOR THE LIBRARY. YOU PUT FIVE MILLION FOR THE ARTS. LET THAT BE A BEACON TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE MAKING A COMMITMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT, BUT PLEASE JUST LET THE VOTERS DECIDE IN MAY, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE JUST A SHOW OF HANDS WHO ALL HAS PETS HERE. I THINK WE ALL [LAUGHTER] YOURSELF INCLUDED? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE] >> KATHY GUERRA. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KATHY GUERRA. I LIVE AT 8204 BELL STREET. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FRISCO FOR 20 YEARS. FRISCO IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE, AND I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE EVEN A BETTER PLACE IF WE HAVE AN ANIMAL SHELTER. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU WE NEED TO KEEP THE ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE BOND ISSUE. I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING FOR A BOND ISSUE THAT INCLUDES OUR MUCH-NEEDED ANIMAL SHELTER SO THAT WE CAN GET IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE] >> LISA ALLISON. >> HI. GOOD EVENING. I'M LISA ALLISON, 7904 STANLEY DRIVE. FRISCO, TEXAS, 75036. I'M ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE TO INCLUDE AN ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE UPCOMING BOND. I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN SAY TONIGHT THAT WOULD CHANGE YOUR VOTE BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU'VE MADE THAT DECISION. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I RECENTLY MET WITH A MANAGER OF A NEW LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTER TO CHAT WITH HER ABOUT THEIR NEW SHELTER. THEY HAVE A NICE NEW, BEAUTIFUL $5.4 MILLION FACILITY. I DID BET THAT NUMBER UP THROUGH PIR AND UNLIKE MOST OF THE TEXAS SHELTER IS THESE DAYS, IT ISN'T FULL. I ASKED HER ABOUT THEIR INTAKE NUMBERS AND ASK IF SHE'S SEEN AN INCREASE SINCE THE SHELTER WAS NOW LARGER. SHE DID SAY THAT, YES, THEIR INTAKE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED. BUT ADOPTIONS ARE UP, DONATIONS ARE UP, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO VISIT THE SHELTER UP, THEY ALSO HAVE MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO VOLUNTEER AND MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO JUST COME AND LEARN. SHE SHARED THAT THE MORE EDUCATION THAT IT CAN OCCUR NOW WITH ADULTS AND CHILDREN MIGHT HELP FIX SOME OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE ARE SEEING NOW. I THINK MY FAVORITE THING SHE SAID WAS WHEN I ASKED HER TO TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING SUCH A GREAT NEW FACILITY SHE SHARED THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FACE FOR THE SERVICE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FRISCO HAVE, A FACE FOR THE SERVICE. I THINK OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DOES SO MANY THINGS THAT MANY OF US AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF PEOPLE COULD SEE MORE OF THAT THROUGH COMMUNITY EVENTS AND CLASSES AT THE SHELTER. I DO ALSO THINK IT'S TIME FOR FRISCO TO STOP CONTRIBUTING TO THE OVERCROWDING AT CCAS. AS YOU KNOW, THE CRATES IN THE HALLWAYS DON'T SEEM TO BE GOING ANYWHERE ANYTIME SOON. I CHECKED ON THEIR WEBSITE TONIGHT THEY WERE SHOWING 24 STRAY DOGS AND 48 ADOPTABLE DOGS. THAT'S A TOTAL OF 72 DOGS, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE DOGS BEING QUARANTINED, SO 72 DOGS ARE THERE. JUST FROM THE INFORMATION, CCAS HAS 60 DOG KENNELS. WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THERE ARE 12 HANGING OUT IN THE HALLWAYS. TONIGHT AS WE WERE HERE AT THE MEETING, THEY POSTED, WE NEED YOUR HELP. THE SHELTER IS OUT OF SPACE. ALL KENNELS ARE FULL AND ALMOST 30 DOGS ARE IN THE HALLWAYS CRATES WAITING FOR SPACE. THERE'S NO ROOM LEFT FOR CRATES. WE NEED ADOPTIONS, HELP US SAVE LIVES. PLEASE SHARE OUR ADOPTABLE DOGS. AGAIN, LET'S BE PART OF THE SOLUTION AND NOT CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> KELLY STANBURY. >> AS KELLY IS COMING UP, DELIA MCCLENDON WILL BE NEXT. >> HI, KELLY STANBURY, 13065 SPRING HILL DRIVE. FRISCO, 75035. SORRY, I'M NEW TO THE AREA, SO I'M STILL GETTING USED TO THAT ADDRESS. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THE BOND RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ANIMAL RESCUE COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS NOW, [02:50:04] FIRST IN ILLINOIS, IN THE LAST TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS HERE IN TEXAS. IN THAT WORK, I'VE SEEN THE NEED AND BENEFITS OF LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTERS WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMAL SAFETY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, SPAY-NEUTER PROGRAMS, MICROCHIP PROGRAMS, REUNITING LOSS PETS WITH THEIR FAMILIES, AND FINDING FOREVER FAMILIES FOR ANIMALS THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN DIRE SITUATIONS. I THINK FRISCO WOULD SEE TREMENDOUS BENEFITS FROM HAVING A LOCAL ANIMAL FACILITY AND FULLY SUPPORT LETTING THE RESIDENTS OF FRISCO VOTE ON THE BOND RECOMMENDED BY THE CBC. I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE RECENT CBC MEETING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BOND, BUT I DID WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS DISCUSSION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE CBC WAS HANDPICKED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY DEPARTMENTS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF FRISCO. AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY, THE CBC DID RECOMMEND THAT THE BOND WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE FRISCO RESIDENTS TO DECIDE ON THIS INITIATIVE. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AND I'M NEW TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BUT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD NOT FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THE ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE BOND. THE IDEA THAT FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY BY RESONANCE, AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CBC IS COMING FROM A COMMITTEE MADE UP OF RESIDENTS. SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT ALL FRISCO RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE ON THE BOND. AS I LISTENED TO THE DISCUSSION, A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT I HEARD OF WERE RAISED. ONE HAD TO DO WITH OVERCROWDING AND AS WE HEARD, COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES IS CURRENTLY RECEIVING AN OVERABUNDANCE OF ANIMALS FROM MUNICIPALITIES. [LAUGHTER] THEY DO HAVE DOGS AND CRATES STACKED IN A HALLWAY AS THEY STRUGGLED TO KEEP UP WITH THE NUMBERS. FRISCO ANIMAL SERVICES WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE THIS OVERALL COUNTY OVERCROWDING ISSUE. THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY INCREASE AS THE CITIES IN THE AREA EXPERIENCE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. IT ALSO WILL KEEP FRISCO PETS IN FRISCO, MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO BE REUNITED WITH THEIR FAMILIES. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS EUTHANASIA, AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, EUTHANASIA, UNFORTUNATELY, HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. ALL RESPONSIBLE SHELTERS AND RESCUES HAVE A DUTY TO CONSIDER HUMANE EUTHANASIA WHEN IT COMES TO BEHAVIORAL ISSUES OR MEDICAL ISSUES THAT CAN BE RESOLVED BY EUTHANASIA IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE DOGS. SADLY, DESPITE ANYONE'S EFFORTS, NO FACILITY OR ORGANIZATION IS EVER GOING TO BE EXEMPT FROM THAT. I HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY BUT IS SIX SECONDS SO I'LL WRAP UP AND JUST SAY THAT I DO HOPE THAT YOU WILL HONOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE AND LEAVE OPTION B SO THAT THOSE CITIZENS OF FRISCO CAN VOTE ON THAT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON OUR NEXT SPEAKER. I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH HER, THE POPULAR KIDS. IF I GET INTIMIDATED, THAT'S WHY. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE] >> WOW, THAT'S QUITE AN INTRO. I'M DELIA MCCLENDON. I'VE BEEN A FRISCO RESIDENT FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS, 2047 CROW BRIDGE DRIVE. I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF SALES AND A CO-FOUNDER OF A COMPANY THAT'S BASED IN MCKINNEY. IT'S CALLED FARMHOUSE FRESH. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M ALSO THE FOUNDER OF A VERY ACTIVE NON-PROFIT GROUP CALLED ARCHANGEL ANIMAL NETWORK. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING AN ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE BOND BALLOT PROPOSAL. WHAT ARCHANGEL ANIMAL NETWORK DOES, WE WORK WITH MUNICIPAL ANIMAL SHELTER PARTNERS HERE IN TEXAS TO SEND TEXAS DOGS AND CATS OUT-OF-STATE TO RESCUE GROUPS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE AN OVERPOPULATION ISSUE AND THEY CAN ESCAPE EUTHANASIA STRICTLY DUE TO OVERPOPULATION AND BE ADOPTED. SINCE 2019, WE HAVE SENT NEARLY 4,000 DOGS ON RESCUE TRANSPORT. [APPLAUSE] WHY DO WE DO THIS? THE ONLY REASON WHY WE DO THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS HERE IN TEXAS THAT WE HAVE AND THE DIRE NEED THAT EXISTS. TEXAS SADLY RANKS NUMBER 1 IN PET OVERPOPULATION AND NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO BE EUTHANIZED BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS IS TEXAS ON THE WHOLE. THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE ANIMAL SHELTERS TO HELP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE EUTHANIZED IN TEXAS. FRISCO IS A PROGRESSIVE, GROWING, NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CITY, AND WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO MAKE A REAL IMPACT ON THIS ISSUE. [02:55:01] THERE'S NO CITY THAT I KNOW OF FRISCO SIZE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I'VE LIVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES AND HAVE WORKED WITH THEIR ANIMAL SHELTERS AS WELL. BUILDING A SHELTER IN FRISCO CAN HELP SAVE LIVES AND ALLEVIATE THE OVERPOPULATION CRISIS. CURRENTLY, MYSELF, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, TRAVELED TO OTHER CITIES RIGHT NOW TO GIVE THEIR RESOURCES, TIME, AND MONEY TO THE OTHER ANIMAL SHELTERS AND OTHER CITIES CALLING COUNT OF MCKINNEY, DALLAS, GARLAND, FORT WORTH ARE JUST A FEW. I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME WHY A CITY LIKE FRISCO DOESN'T HAVE AN ANIMAL SHELTER, AND PEOPLE ARE CONFOUNDED BY THIS. HAVING AN ANIMAL SHELTER IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S WHAT A PROGRESSIVE CITY DOES AND A FRISCO ANIMAL SHELTER WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE LIVES ARE SAVED. FRISCO RESIDENTS COULD COME AND ADOPT A NEW FAMILY MEMBER. SCHOOLS AND FRISCO FAMILIES COULD VOLUNTEER AND LEARN FROM THE BENEFIT OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY, AND THE LESS FORTUNATE. I'M ALMOST OUT OF TIME, BUT I'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD STUFF LEFT TO SAY SO MAYBE 30 MORE SECONDS. IT WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE RESCUE GROUPS CAN GATHER TOGETHER AND WORK FOR THE COMMON GOOD, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT RESCUE GROUPS WANT THIS. THE RESCUE GROUPS IN THIS AREA WANT A SHELTER. INSTEAD OF FRISCO RESIDENTS GOING TO OTHER CITIES TO CARRY OUT THESE THINGS, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THEM HERE LOCALLY. SO IF FRISCO IS GOING TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT, BUSINESS TECHNOLOGY, A SPORTS MECCA, EDUCATION, IT SHOULD ALSO BE A CITY WITH A HEART. WE HAVE 12 HIGH SCHOOLS AND 67,000 STUDENTS, BUT NOT ONE ANIMAL SHELTER. PGA, DALLAS COWBOYS, FC DALLAS, UNIVERSAL MOST LIKELY TO COME, BUT NOT A SINGLE ANIMAL SHELTER. WE ARE A CITY OF ANIMAL LOVERS. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I'M NOT NAIVE AND I KNOW THIS COMES WITH A COST, BUT FRISCO, RESIDENTS REALLY DESERVE TO MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER THEY WANT AN ANIMAL SHELTER OR NOT. SO PLEASE LEAVE IT ON THE BOND. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MELINDA PRESTON, AND AS MELINDA IS COMING DOWN, PAUL RIDDLE WILL BE NEXT. >> THIS IS SHE, I'M MELINDA PRESTON, 13370. BARFIELD DRIVE FRISCO, TEXAS. THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO ME BY MY FRIEND SHANNON AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW MANY DOGS I HAVE, THREE AT HOME. I HAVE 10 GRAND DOGS. I'VE GOT LIKE FIVE GRAND CATS. I'VE GOT A LOT OF ANIMALS IN OUR FAMILY. WE LOVE ANIMALS. ONE OF OUR DOGS GOT OUT AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO CALL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SHELTER HERE. SO I HAD TO CALL AROUND AND FOUND OUT THAT OUR DOG WOULD BE TAKEN TO MCKINNEY. WELL, HAVE YOU GONE TO THE SHELTER IN MCKINNEY? IT'S WAY OUT IN MCKINNEY. IT WAS DOWN ON A ROW, IT'S CRAZY FAR AWAY. WHEN SHANNON BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME, I THOUGHT WHY DON'T WE HAVE AN ANIMAL SHELTER IN FRISCO? IT IS TRUE. TWO OF MY CHILDREN LIVE IN AUSTIN, THEY VOLUNTEER AT THE LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTER. THEY LOVE IT. THEY GO AND THEY TAKE THE DOGS OUT, THEY WALK WITH THEM. THEY DO TRAINING WITH THEM AND WE NEED THAT IN OUR OWN. IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEPRESSION, WHO HAVE ANXIETY TO COME AND BE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR LIVES CHANGED AS WELL AS THAT ANIMALS LIVES. IT JUST MAKES SENSE, AND REALLY HONESTLY, FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ISN'T ENOUGH. WE'RE FRISCO, WE SHOULD HAVE THE NICEST ANIMAL CENTER IN THE ENTIRE STATE. [APPLAUSE] THANKS GUYS. [APPLAUSE] >> [BACKGROUND] >> RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY HERE BY NOW? I DON'T KNOW. I'M GOING A LITTLE COUNTER. I'M DOWN TO A MINUTE AND 28 SECONDS. WE BETTER MAKE THIS FAST. [OVERLAPPING] THE WAY BACK UP HERE I GOT TWO MINUTES AND 57 SECONDS. I WISH I COULD READ FACES BETTER. I'M PRETTY GOOD AT IT AND THEN WE MIGHT ALREADY HAVE VALID BE APPROVED. I DON'T KNOW. BUT IN CASE WE DON'T, SOMETIMES THE OLD PHRASE AND I GOT HERE A LITTLE LATE. I WAS WITH MY DAUGHTER WATCHING HER PLAY SOCCER OVER THE FC DALLAS, THE STADIUM. BUT DESPERATE TIMES COME FOR DESPERATE MEASURES. I ACTUALLY HAD TO COME TO CITY HALL TODAY AND TOMORROW, CHENEY, BUT I WAS TALKING TO MY PETS AND MY FAMILY AT HOME AND I TALKED TO SECRETARY MOREAU EARLIER AND MY DOG, MR. PICKLES, HE'S UPSET ABOUT THIS. HE TALKED ABOUT RUNNING FOR MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] BUT CITY SECRETARY, MOREAU SAID THAT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. ANYWAY THEN I WAS LIKE, WELL, GEE, DO I WANT TO RUN FOR MAYOR? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A TOUGH JOB AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT, AND EVERYBODY'S JOB SERIOUS, TOUGH. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS PUT A LOT OF INPUT IN HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP RETREATING. WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING. [03:00:01] BUT WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS OVER HERE OR OVER HERE, THEY LOOK SIMILAR TO ME, BUT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS BASICALLY ONE PERCENT OF THE BOND ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR VOTING. THAT'S LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW, I'M GETTING TO BE AT A LOSS HERE. I'VE BEEN A GOOD SOLDIER AND I KEEP SHOWING UP AND I KEEP TALKING. BUT MAYBE WE CAN GIVE UP FOUR OR FIVE LANES OF ONE MILE HIGHWAY AND GET THIS IN THERE AND OR ELSE, MY LORD, HOW MANY TRAILS DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A GRAND PARK? I LIKE PARKS. I LIKE EVERYTHING, BUT I GUESS THE ONLY THING I REALLY SAY IS I DON'T REALLY SEE ANYBODY ELSE COMING IN HERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, FIRED UP ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE LIKE ANY OF THESE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, THEY ALL MAKE SENSE. I THINK THE ANIMAL SHELTER MAKES SENSE AS WELL. THAT'S IT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY. I JUST VOTE BALLOT BE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JENNA MASCALARRY. >> HI THERE. I HAD NO INTENTION OF SPEAKING TONIGHT. I CAME JUST TO HEAR ABOUT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS. THOUGHT I MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING, BUT I FELT COMPELLED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I SEE EVERYBODY HERE HAS PETS, EVERYBODY I KNOW HAS AN ANIMAL OR TWO. WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE KNOW. I DIDN'T KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE A SHELTER. I'M A LITTLE EMBARRASSED ABOUT THAT. THIS SEEMS LIKE A NO-BRAINER. IT SEEMS EMBARRASSING FOR A CITY AS AMAZING AS WE ARE, THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING YEARS, IT SOUNDS LIKE AND ASKING, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CRAZY TO ME. IT'S UNFORGIVABLE. UNIVERSAL SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A DONE DEAL. WE'VE ONLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A MONTH AND A HALF, MAYBE YEARS FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER. I DON'T GET IT. WHY DON'T WE HAVE UNIVERSAL PAY FOR IT? [APPLAUSE] [28. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Frisco, Collin and Denton Counties, Texas, ordering a General Election to be administered by the Collin County Elections Administrator and the Denton County Elections Administrator on May 6, 2023, for the purpose of electing a Mayor and two members of the Frisco City Council (Place Nos. 5 and 6) to fill expiring terms; designating early voting polling places and hours; designating election day polling places and hours; designating filing deadlines; ordering notices of election to be given as prescribed by law in connection with such election; providing for the appointment of election judges; authorizing the Mayor and City Secretary to take all actions necessary to comply with applicable election laws. (CSO/KM)] >> DEBBIE LINDSTROM. >> CAN I SPEAK UP 28? I'M AT 28. [BACKGROUND] >> NOT 27? OKAY. CAROL LONG. >> HI EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS CAROL LONG AND MY ADDRESS IS 7274 MAYHALL DRIVE. I'VE BEEN A PROUD HOMEOWNER IN FRISCO NOW FOR 18 YEARS. I LOVE IT HERE. I JUST BECAME AWARE OF THE STRUGGLE GOING ON WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER, LIKE THE WOMAN WHO JUST SPOKE. I WAS SHOCKED TO THINK THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED FOR GOING ON SIX YEARS. I'M NEW TO THIS TOPIC. I HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF ANY OF THESE GROUPS. BUT ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO I STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH TO FIND OUT THE HISTORY. I WATCHED THE VIDEO, THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING, WHICH BELIEVE YOU ME, IT WAS HARD TO DO. [LAUGHTER]. IT WAS HARD TO HEAR, BUT I DID IT. THEN I WENT TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND I READ ALL OF THE MEETING MINUTES AND VARIOUS PRESENTATIONS. I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, EVEN GOT TO TALK TO A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH WAS WONDERFUL. BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED, I'VE ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED A LOT TOO. I RETIRED 12 YEARS AGO FROM THE COCA-COLA COMPANY. MY BACKGROUND IS CORPORATE AMERICA. AFTER DOING THE RESEARCH AND LOOKING AT MY 12 YEARS OF VOLUNTEERING AT SHELTERS, AT RESCUES FOR CANINE COMPANIONS, FOR INDEPENDENCE UP AT MAIN GATE,12 YEARS OF GOING OUTSIDE OF FRISCO TO VOLUNTEER. I BELIEVE TOO THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED A BRICK AND MORTAR SHELTER IN FRISCO. OUR CITY'S WEBSITE SAYS WE ARE A WORLD-CLASS CITY WITH WORLD-CLASS AMENITIES. A GREAT SHELTER IS MORE THAN FOUR WALLS AND A PLACE TO DUMP DOGS UNTIL THEY CAN BE ADOPTED. HERE IN FRISCO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A WORLD-CLASS SHELTER, A GREAT FACILITY THAT DOES THE THINGS THAT ONLY THE BEST SHELTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY DO. SOME FOLKS MENTIONED, LIKE THE READING PROGRAM. THAT'S A GREAT THING. LET ME GIVE YOU SOME OTHER EXAMPLES THAT A BRICK-AND-MORTAR SHELTER COULD DO. THINK OF A GREAT LOOKING BUILDING ON A WELL-TRAVELED ROAD HERE IN FRISCO WITH A PLAY YARD VISIBLE TO EVERYBODY WHO GOES BY THE FACILITY. THINK OF A PLACE THAT HOLDS RABIES CLINICS AND MICROCHIPPING CLINICS FOR OUR CITIZENS. AGAIN, A GREAT CITIZENS' SERVICE. THINK OF A PLACE THAT UTILIZES OUR WONDERFUL FRISCO VOLUNTEERS IN THAT FACILITY TO HELP THINGS GO GREAT AND ADVANCE THEIR POSITION THERE. [03:05:04] THINK OF A PLACE THAT HOLDS ADOPTION EVENTS FOR OUR RESONANCE RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PET LOVERS. THERE'S NO LIMIT TO THE WAY A SHELTER CONSERVE OUR CITIZENS AND OUR ANIMALS. I'M NOT GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND TRY AND CONVINCE YOU THAT THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T LOVE ANIMALS OR HAVING ANIMALS. THAT THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD DO IT. WE SHOULD DO IT SO THAT OUR CITY IS A WORLD-CLASS CITY WITH A WORLD-CLASS SHELTER. IN 2006, WHEN SOMEBODY MENTIONED THIS 16 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE BONDS FOR THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE LIBRARY. SIXTEEN YEARS AGO. THESE EFFORTS HAD TO START SOMEWHERE. BONDS WERE APPROVED 16 YEARS AGO. WE'LL LOOK AT US NOW. THE LIBRARY THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE VERY PROUD OF, IS OPENING SOON, THE SENIOR CENTER IS OPENING SOON. I'M ALMOST DONE. I WAS PLANNING FOR FIVE MINUTES. MAYOR CHENEY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE BE THE LEADERS THAT HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO GET US STARTED ON SOMETHING. WE NEED TO DO IT NOW, SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, AS THINGS GET WORSE, AS OVERCROWDING AT SHELTERS GET WORSE, THAT WE'RE IN A BETTER PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE THINGS. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW, FOLKS. IT'S AS EASY AS ALLOWING THE CBC'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD. PLEASE DO IT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. TONIGHT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE NO MORE BLUE CARDS FOR PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE ABOUT NINE BLUE CARDS FOR FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OF ORDINANCE BE BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. [APPLAUSE] >> WELL, LET ME FIRST SAY THAT I KNOW MYSELF, AND COUNCIL WERE ALWAYS AMAZED HOW FRISCO RESIDENTS WHEN THEY COME SPEAK BEFORE US. EVEN SOMETIMES PASSIONATE ISSUES CAN DO SO IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER, HAVE GOOD DIALOGUE AND DEBATE. WE SAW THAT WITH THE UNIVERSAL ISSUE EARLIER TODAY AND OF COURSE, THIS ISSUE THIS EVENING THAT CERTAINLY HAS A LOT OF PASSIONS SURROUNDING IT. REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU ARE IN THE ISSUE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING YOURSELVES IN THAT MANNER. IT MAKES IT EASIER TO DO VERY DIFFICULT JOBS, AND MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, SO I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO JUST START AT THE TOP, AND WALK THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE, AND WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. BEFORE WE START THAT REAL QUICK, LET ME DO ONE PROCESS. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE AT THE BOND COMMITTEE, BUT JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, WORKING WITH STAFF, AND THE BOND COMMITTEE. TRUTHFULLY, THIS ISSUE IN PARTICULAR BEING A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT IN YEARS PAST, THAT IT NEVER GOT PAST CITY STAFF, AND WAS NEVER HEARD BY A BOND COMMITTEE, AND WAS NEVER HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE TYPICALLY, OUR PROCESS AS A COUNCIL AND IMPASSE BOND ELECTIONS IS THE FIRST HURDLE THAT HAS TO BE CLEARED FOR ANY ISSUE IS TO GET STAFF SUPPORT, [29. City Council discussion with City Staff concerning any actions required by City Staff as a result of any item on tonight's agenda.] HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FIRST PART OF THAT PROCESS. THIS YEAR, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. COUNCIL WANTED TO CERTAINLY HAVE AN OPEN MIND, [30. Discussion on Governance Monitoring of present City Council Meeting.] AND WE INTENTIONALLY PUT SOME BOND COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE THAT ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. JUST TO BE ABLE TO SHOW BOTH SIDES HAVE THAT OPEN DIALOGUE AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. THEN WE'VE HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. CERTAINLY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEBATE ON THAT SPECIFIC ITEM. A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS ON ALL THE OTHER ITEMS ON THIS. I DIDN'T WANT US TO GO THROUGH THIS ONE BY ONE AND MAYBE BREEZE THROUGH 473 MILLION DOLLARS, OR PROPOSED BONDS, AND PEOPLE NOT THINK THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN VETTED BY MANY PEOPLE OR MANY HOURS, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE LANDED. I DO THINK PROBABLY THE FIRST FIVE WE'LL GET THROUGH THE FASTEST EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE BULK OF IT. WITH THAT YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC SAFETY. ANITA, IS THERE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ASK AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR? >> NOW I THINK WE'LL JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AND IF I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY, OR THE PARKS OR THE ROAD, PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK TO YOU. >> ON PUBLIC SAFETY COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED? >> MAYOR CHENEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, ASK A LEGAL QUESTION OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY. >> I SECOND THAT. [03:10:01] >> MOTION BY JOHN, SECOND BY BRIGHTON. >> 551.071 THE GOVERNMENT CODE. JUST FOR CLARITY. >> SURE. NO PROBLEM. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES, 6-0, JUST TO GIVE US A FEW MONTHS. MOTION TO RECONVENE. >> IT'S A MOVE. >> MOTION BY JOHN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY ANGELIA. ON FAVOR? >> AYE. >> PASSES 6-0, RECONVENED, REGULAR SESSION AT 10:06 PM THANK YOU ALL FOR STAYING LATE WITH US AND BEING PATIENT. WE WILL CONTINUE AS WE STARTED AND RUN THROUGH THESE QUICKLY LINE-BY-LINE, AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THE LAST ONE. PUBLIC SAFETY. I KNOW WE GOT DETAILED PRESENTATIONS, COUNCIL, ANY OBJECTIONS, HEARTBURN, CONCERNS WITH THE 131,400,000 PROPOSED? >> ANITA JUST TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT THIS ISN'T ENOUGH FOR OUR FIRE. CAN YOU MAYBE ADDRESS THAT ONE MORE TIME FOR US? >> FOR THE BONDS FOR THE CAPITAL IT IS ENOUGH FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IS FOR THEIR EQUIPMENT FOR STATION 11. WE DON'T PAY FOR STAFFING OR SALARIES OUT OF BOND PROCEEDS. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. >> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT CHIEF ASKED FOR. WE FUNDED WHAT HE ASKED FOR, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED WHAT HE ASKED FOR, AND WE HAVE ESCALATORS IN THERE AS WELL FOR INFLATION. THE PUBLIC SAFETY INCLUDES FIRE STATION 11, FUNDING NEW FIRE EQUIPMENT, A NEW FIRE FLEET SERVICES BUILDING, REMODEL A FIRE STATION 4, THE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS REPLACEMENTS. WE'VE GOT A PARKING GARAGE FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS, GOT OTHER POLICE HEADQUARTER IMPROVEMENT. PHASE 2 OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER, WHICH INCLUDES SOME IMPROVED GUN RANGES FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS. >> THERE'S ALSO A TRAINING CENTER AS WELL, ANITA? DON'T MISS THAT. >> YES. THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER PHASE 2. >> SORRY. RANDOM. DOES PHASE 2 TAKE US THROUGH THE BUILD-OUT OF THE SAFETY CENTER? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> NO QUESTIONS ON THAT? I WILL MOVE TO THE STREET AND ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS, 240 MILLION DOLLARS. PART OF THIS IS MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY WOULD PUT FOR ROADS ON A BOND OR HAVE IN THE PAST, BUT A BIG PART OF THAT IS COST ESCALATION. I THINK IN OUR WORK SESSION, IT ESTIMATED VERY SIMILAR MILES BEING BUILT AS WE DID WITH OUR LAST BOND ELECTION, JUST PRICING IS VERY DIFFERENT TODAY. >> AS THE CITY'S AGED, WE INCLUDED $20 MILLION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING ROADS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE OF AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO AGE AND YOUR ROADS. ROAD LIFE IS AROUND 30 YEARS MAYBE. THAT'S PROBABLY PUSHING IT. WE DEPRECIATE THEM FOR 30 YEARS, AND SO WE HAVE STARTED DOING SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BOND PROGRAM. >> ANITA, WAS THAT THE FULL REQUEST OR WAS THERE FUNDS [OVERLAPPING] >> NO. THEY REQUESTED MORE THAN THAT, IT WAS CUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT PAUL ASSURED US THAT IT WOULD BE FINE. >> OKAY. >> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ROADS? THAT WILL TAKE US TO CITY SERVICES FACILITIES, WHICH INCLUDES A NEW PARKS OPERATIONS CENTER, BUILDING SERVICES MAINTENANCE FACILITY, NEW LOGISTICS AND STORAGE FACILITY FOR $39 MILLION. >> YES AND THIS IS FOR TWO SEPARATE FACILITIES. ONE WOULD BE, IF YOU KNOW NOW WE'VE GOT OUR PARKS, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF ROME. WE CALL IT WALNUT STREET LOCATION. IT'S NEXT TO THE SIMMS MORE WE CALL IT SIMMS MORE AS THE LUMBER COMPANY IS, WHERE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES IS HOUSED, AND OUR BUILDING FACILITIES GROUP IS THERE, AND THOSE BUILDINGS ARE VERY VERY OLD. I THINK THE SIMMS MORE WAS BUILT IN 1963, AND THE WALNUT STREET WAS BUILT IN 1995, AND SO WE'VE BEEN NEEDING TO DO SOMETHING. THERE'S A GREAT VIDEO OUT THERE THAT SHANNON MADE ABOUT STORING THE HIGH DOLLAR MOWERS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR PARKS MAINTENANCE, AND THE GROWTH IN OUR PARK SYSTEM. THIS WOULD GIVE OUR COVERED PARKING, AND GIVE HER EMPLOYEES, AND BUILDING FACILITIES, EMPLOYEES A SHARED SPACE, THEY COULD SHARE TRAINING ROOMS, AND BREAK ROOMS. IT'S ONE OF THE LAST REALLY TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MOVING TO A BETTER FACILITY. THAT'S WHAT THE BULK OF THAT IS. THEN THE LOGISTICS CENTER AT IT. [03:15:02] WE STARTED THE INVENTORY SYSTEM SEVERAL YEARS BACK. DANIEL FORD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB MANAGING THAT. WE JUST CONTINUE TO BRING MORE INTO OUR INVENTORY MANAGEMENT WHERE WE'RE CENTRALIZING AND CONTROLLING IT, AND SO HE'S ASKED TO EXPAND THAT LOGISTICS CENTER OUT ON THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. HE'S GOT A OLD CAR WASH BAY THAT WE USE TO STORE STUFF THAT GOES TO AUCTION, SO WE JUST ASKED HIM TO DO SOME WORK THERE TOO. >> THANK YOU. >> NO, GO AHEAD. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF OUR MOST RECENT BOND ELECTIONS WERE SITTING AT ROUGHLY 230,000 PEOPLE FINAL BUILD-OUT, ESTIMATED TO BE ROUGHLY 325,000. BUT OUR CITY FACILITIES WERE NOW PLANNING FOR A FULL BUILD-OUT. JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE LIBRARY, WHICH THAT WAS PLANNED AND DESIGNED FOR FULL BUILD-OUT, THE COURTHOUSE OR THE RECENT BUILDINGS. THESE BUILDINGS ARE TAKING ALL OF OUR CITY SERVICE BUILDINGS ESSENTIALLY TO FULL BUILD-OUT. >> YES. >> THAT'S ALL. >> ONE QUESTION I HAD BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED PARKS WAS ONE OF THE LAST DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED AN UPGRADED BUILDING, AND THEY CAN EVEN WALK ON THE ROOF RIGHT NOW. THE OTHER DEPARTMENT IS ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, AND THAT'S NOT IN HERE. [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, SIR. THERE'S OTHER PLANS FOR THAT. >> BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER PLANS OR WHATNOT, BUT THAT IS THE OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT WE STILL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE. >> SINCE THEY'RE IN ENTERPRISE FUND, THEN THERE BUILDING COULDN'T BE PAID FOR WITH GENERAL OBLIGATION VOTER APPROVED BONDS. YES. THE PARKS FACILITY, WE GOT GIVEN THE CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS WHEN THE STAR WAS BUILT, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORKING OUT OF. >> WAS THAT WHAT THE DUCK TAPE WAS ON? >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> THE BUILDING WAS BEING HELD TOGETHER BY DUCT TAPE. >> IT WAS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION. >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'LL TAKE US TO PARKS, TRAILS, AND OPEN SPACE, $20 MILLION. >> 43 MILLION. >> 43 MILLION. THANK YOU. >> THAT'S TO CONTINUE THEIR MASTER PLANNING THAT THEY HAVE ON THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY PARKS. >> WE'VE GOT TO A DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGE, $20 MILLION. >> YES. FOR PART OF YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN OF DOWNTOWN IS TO BUILD A PARKING GARAGE BEHIND THE OLD CITY BUILDINGS THERE ON MAIN STREET. >> FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, I DID GET SOME QUESTIONS ON WHY ARE WE DOING THAT AND WHAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT WE DID HAVE INFORMATION DURING THAT JANUARY 17TH MEETING THAT IT WILL NOT LOOK LIKE YOUR TYPICAL PARKING GARAGE. IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN EXTERIOR THAT WILL FIT INTO OUR OVERALL DOWNTOWN LOOK. >> THE PLAZA AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE. >> YES. ALWAYS NEED MORE PARKING, ESPECIALLY IF WE TAKE AWAY THE ROADSIDE PARKING IN ADDITION. >> THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE CITY IS MAKING MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN DOWNTOWN. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE PLANNED PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS OF ROUGHLY $50 MILLION THAT'S BEING PLANNED. WHICH IS MAIN STREET RECONSTRUCTION, MAKING THE SIDEWALKS LARGER SO IT'S MORE WALKABLE, COMPLETING ELM STREET TO CREATE ANOTHER THOROUGHFARE DOWN THERE, CLOSING FOUR STREET AND CREATING A PLAZA AND GATHERING AREA. REALLY, IT WAS THE GOAL OF COUNCIL TO LOOK AT DOWNTOWN AS THE HEARTBEAT OF THE CITY. MAKING THOSE INVESTMENTS, SO IT BECOMES REALLY SPECIAL. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT TRANSFORM. SOME OF US WENT ON A TRIP TO CARY, NORTH CAROLINA WHERE THEY DID A SIMILAR TRANSFORMATION OF THEIR DOWNTOWN, AND THE LINE THAT THEY USED IS IT WAS A 20 YEAR OVERNIGHT SUCCESS STORY. THEY DID MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO MAKE OUR DOWNTOWN QUICKER THAN A 20 YEAR OVERNIGHT SUCCESS STORY. AS WE BRING MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE, WE NEED A PLACE FOR THEM TO PARK, AND SO THIS IS PART OF THAT BIG VISION OF MAKING THE [INAUDIBLE] DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON DOWNTOWN? THE LAST ONE, WHAT EVERYONE'S BEEN WAITING FOR. ANIMAL SHELTER, FIVE MILLION. SO LET ME, I GUESS, PREFACE THIS, THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GET TO SEE FULL TRANSPARENCY IN HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE AND WHY SOME PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT THIS AND FEEL LIKE, THAT'S AN EASY DECISION. THAT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY COMPARATIVELY, AND IT'S A KEY CITY SERVICE. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT GO INTO IT, AND SO WHEN WE WERE LISTENING TO THE MESSAGES FROM THE CITIZENS TONIGHT, WHICH I SAID WOULD SAY, JOB WELL DONE. I THINK YOUR MESSAGES ALL VERY MUCH LANDED. [03:20:03] I THINK IT TOUCHED EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, TOUCHED ME PERSONALLY. SO KUDOS TO YOU AND HOW YOU CHOSE TO GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS TONIGHT, AND THAT'S HOW BUSINESS IS DONE. TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO CHANGE MINDS IS TO DO IT IN THAT MANNER. THERE IS NO BLACK AND WHITE ANSWER. I WILL TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY, WHEN WE HEARD YOUR MESSAGING, I THINK ALL OF US AGREE WITH THE SAME UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES THAT YOU ALL SAID. WE ALL RAISED OUR HANDS THAT WE HAVE PETS. WE ALL LOVE OUR PETS. WE WANT FRISCO TO BE KNOWN AND RECOGNIZED LIKE WE ARE IN EVERYTHING, AS A LEADER IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, AND WE DON'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO GO DO IT AND BE THE BEST AT IT. I'VE TOLD MANY OF YOU THE STORY THAT I ALMOST GOT RAN OUT OF TOWN MY FIRST RE-ELECTION BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE VOCAL LEADERS OF THE DOG PARK WORKING WITH THE ADVOCACY GROUP. MY OPPONENT WAS LIKE, HE SUPPORTS PETS OVER PEOPLE. BUT THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE CULTURE AND DNA OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER AGREES WITH ALL OF YOUR POINTS ON THAT. THE BIG QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU EXECUTE THAT? HOW DO YOU EXECUTE THAT VISION? IT'S MORE AS YOU WOULD ALL SAY AND AGREE, IT'S MORE THAN BRICKS-AND-MORTAR. IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE. IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESSES, IT'S ABOUT THE SERVICES. IT'S ABOUT YOUR VOLUNTEERS. IT'S AN ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM, IT'S AN ENTIRE POLICY WRITTEN. THEN WHEN YOU PUT A BOND LANGUAGE, HOW DO YOU CONVEY IN A BOND ELECTION AN ENTIRE VISION AND MISSION? IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE TO DO. IT'S A REAL HARD THING TO DELIVER. I THINK THE COUNCIL IS UNITED IN LOOKING THROUGH OUR TOOLS TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES, AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY FOR SO LONG AND OUR BOND ATTORNEY FOR SO LONG AS FAR AS HOW CAN WE DELIVER BEST AND DO IT WELL ON THOSE COMMITMENTS AND PROMISES. BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO. WHAT WOULD BE EASY TO DO POLITICALLY, HONESTLY, IS TO JUST PUT IT ON THERE FOR THE SAKE OF PUTTING IT ON THERE, KNOWING THAT IT'S JUST KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT A REAL PLAN, WITHOUT A REAL VISION, WITHOUT A REAL PROPOSAL. THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF POLITICS BECOMES QUITE FRANKLY, WHICH IS TO KICK THE ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD FOR ANOTHER DAY. I DO FEEL LIKE THIS COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO TAKING ACTION SOONER THAN LATER. WHETHER THAT'S WITH THE CITY BOND, WHETHER THAT'S WHAT THE CDC BOND, WHETHER THAT'S LOOKING FOR PRIVATE PARTNERS, WHETHER IT'S EXPLORING ALL THESE, WHETHER IT'S ASKING OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR CHIEF, [INAUDIBLE], BILLY CLAY WHO RUNS ANIMAL SERVICES, ALL OF THEM TO PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER ON THE BEST STRATEGY TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WALK OUT OF HERE WITH A DIRECTION FOR IT. I DO THINK WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME PAINTING THE PICTURE OF WHY IT'S NOT SUCH A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE. SO BILLY, IF YOU COULD MAYBE START AND JUST REALLY WALK THROUGH WHAT OUR POLICY IS, WHAT YOU PRIORITIZE, WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL FEELING IS ABOUT IT? >> YEAH, EXACTLY, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR HAVING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, WE LOOK AT WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY OUR ANIMAL SERVICES UNIT, WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO THREE BASIC AREAS. THAT'S GOING TO BE REUNITING ANIMALS WITH THEIR OWNERS, EDUCATION EFFORTS AND PROMOTING ADOPTION EVENTS. THAT'S WHAT ARE MISSION-DRIVEN GOALS ARE IN HELPING PETS IN FRISCO. I THINK THAT WE DO ALL THESE PRETTY WELL. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND WE START LOOKING AT OUR REUNIFICATION NUMBERS AGAINST CITIES THAT HAVE SHELTERS, OUR NUMBERS BEING OVER 40 PERCENT REUNIFICATION WITH PET OWNERS IS HIGHER THAN THAT OF CITIES THAT HAVE SHELTERS. WE FEEL LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S NEEDED FOR OUR CITY. WE CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. THE VOLUME THAT WE TAKE IN NOW IS HANDLED APPROPRIATELY BY COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. WE FEEL LIKE THAT THERE COULD BE PARTNERSHIP EFFORTS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THOSE. IF WE COULD GET A SERVICE PROVIDED TO US FOR INTAKE OF ANIMALS AT A CHEAPER COST THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW. [03:25:02] AS I SAID, THERE'S NO REAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE SHELTER BASED OFF OF OUR NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SEEING. WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S SEVERAL PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH RUNNING A SHELTER. NUMBER ONE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE MONEY THAT IT COSTS. THERE'S A NEIGHBORING CITY NEAR US THAT IS DOING AN EXPANSION RIGHT NOW, AND THAT EXPANSION IS OVER $13 MILLION. THAT'S JUST FOR AN EXPANSION, NOT AN INITIAL BUILD. WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE EUTHANASIA. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT REASONS WHY ANIMALS ARE EUTHANIZED AT A SHELTER. IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT ON, THEN WE BECOME THE FACE OF THAT. IF AN ANIMAL COMES INTO THE SHELTER AND IT IS SO BADLY INJURED THAT THE ONLY HUMANE THING TO DO IS TO EUTHANIZE IT, THAT'S THE HUMANE THING TO DO. IF DOGS ARE AGGRESSIVE, IF ANIMALS ARE AGGRESSIVE WHEN IT COMES IN, THOSE DOGS TOO SOMETIMES HAVE TO BE EUTHANIZED. THERE'S AN EXTREME LIABILITY THAT COMES WITH ADOPTING A DOG OUT OR PLACING AN ANIMAL THAT GOES AND BITES SOMEONE, BITES A CHILD OR BITES A HANDLER OR AN OWNER. THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER LIABILITY THAT'S AN AREA OF CONCERN FOR US. THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER DISEASES THAT BREAKOUT IN ANIMAL SHELTERS THAT ARE NOT ONLY BAD FOR THE ANIMALS, BUT COULD CAUSE EFFECTS ON THE PEOPLE WORKING THERE. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE REASONS AND JUST REITERATING SOME OF THE FACTS THAT CHIEF SCHILLSER HAD HIT ON BEFORE IN SOME OF HIS PRESENTATIONS THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DATA SUPPORTS BUILDING AN ANIMAL SHELTER HERE. WE THINK FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS ON THE THREE GOALS THAT I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY SUFFICES WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE SHOWN TO BE DOING A GOOD JOB AT IT. WE'RE DOING THINGS PROGRESSIVELY LIKE THE NEW APP THAT WE WORKED WITH GIS TO GET UP AND RUNNING AS PART OF OUR APP ON THE CITY AS A MESSAGING APP TO WHERE WE POST ANIMALS THAT ARE FOUND. THE CITIZENS CAN POST ANIMALS THAT ARE FOUND AND IT'S ALL A GOAL OF REUNIFYING THE ANIMAL WITH THEIR OWNER AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE WANT TO DO THAT THROUGH EDUCATION EVENTS AND PARTNERING WITH OTHER CITIES AND BUSINESSES FROM MICRO CHIPPING EVENTS, VACCINATION EVENTS. WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT ARE PROVIDING SERVICES. I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING I'M REALLY WELL HERE WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE. I THINK THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH UNKNOWN IN LIABILITY THAT COMES WITH US BUILDING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT CERTAIN THAT WE NEED, AND RIGHT NOW, THE DATA DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT WE NEED IT. >> NOW IF WE CAN FIND A PRIVATE PARTNER THAT COULD OFFER SAME OR BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COUNTY OR AT A SIMILAR COSTS, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO DO SO IN A FACILITY HERE IN FRISCO. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL STAFF WOULD SUPPORT? >> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH EXPLORING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER BEEN APPROACHED WITH BEFORE. I THINK IT WOULD BE PREMATURE FOR ME TO ANSWER ON BEING SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DETAILS OF, AND I DON'T THINK SCHILLSER WOULD WANT TO SPEAK IN ON THAT POINT WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE DETAILS BEHIND IT. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE WILLING TO LOOK INTO AND SEE IF THAT TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP COULD HELP US TO PROVIDE A BETTER SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE ANIMALS. >> WE TALKED IN OUR WORK SESSION HERE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES FRISCO IS WE BECOME WHAT WE TALK ABOUT. THAT SOMEHOW FRISCO HAS FOUND A WAY TO JUST SPEAK THINGS INTO EXISTENCE AND DO THINGS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES CANNOT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE HERE TO TRY TO SPEAK THINGS INTO EXISTENCE. >> WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO SAY THAT, FOR ME IF A PRIVATE PARTNER THAT WE VETTED, THAT WE THOUGHT COULD DELIVER, THAT HAD ALL THE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT WE WOULD GO TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T LEAVE AS HIGH AND DRY, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IF THAT PERSON PRESENTED THEMSELVES AND THEY WERE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE AND BEING MORE COMMITTED TO OUR CITY IN A BUILDING HERE IN FRISCO, IF THAT OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BIG WIN. >> I WOULD AGREE. YES, SIR. >> SO IF THERE WAS A WAY TO CRAFT A MESSAGE THAT PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT SAID, HEY, IF THAT PERSON IS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE, IF WE PUT IT OUT IN A MESSAGE, WE ARE MORE LIKELY TO FIND THAT PERSON. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THROUGH A VERY SPECIFICALLY WORDED BOND OR IF THAT'S JUST SENDING A CITY MESSAGE AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE FLUSHING THROUGH. BECAUSE COUNSEL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF EVERYONE'S POSITION [03:30:02] IS THERE'S NO DESIRE TO HAVE A CITY-RUN ANIMAL SHELTER AT THIS TIME. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT FROM EVERYONE? SO WE WANT TO SET THOSE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS THAT THE PATH THAT WE WOULD GO FORWARD WOULD BE WITH THOSE PARAMETERS IN PLACE. SO HOW DO WE CREATE THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO SPEAK THAT INTO EXISTENCE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO BECOME AS A COMMUNITY? WE GOT SOME ADVICE ON POTENTIAL BOND LANGUAGE. I KNOW WEST HAS TALKED ABOUT AN OPTION AS CDC FUNDS AS FAR AS IF THE PRIVATE PARTNER PRESENTS ITSELF OR EVEN OPERATING BUDGET. BUT IT'S REALLY THE BOND ITSELF MAY NOT BE THE BEST PATH FORWARD FOR THAT MISSION UNLESS WE SPECIFICALLY CRAFT THE LANGUAGE TO SET THOSE REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER. >> YEAH. I WOULD AGREE, MAYOR, THAT THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE GRAND VISION OF WHAT WE THINK THAT IF THIS WERE TO COME TO FRUITION, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I DON T THINK THAT IN GOING THROUGH RECENT BUILDING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD EVEN SCRATCH THE SURFACE OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO AS FAR AS THE BOND PACKAGE AND THAT'S WHY NOT ONLY DO WE-, RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED BY US, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD EVEN GET US CLOSE TO WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO BE. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION. WHEN DO WE GET A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I LOVE THE POLICE, TRUST ME I SUPPORT THEM BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID HERE THAT I CAN GIVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE TO. IN FACT ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE HAD BEEN FOUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE A CORRECT APPROACH. >> [OVERLAPPING] WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN OUR CITIZEN INPUT. I'M SORRY. >> [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO COMMENT. >> THIS IS THE TIME FOR CITY COUNCILOR, TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AND DELIBERATE AND MAKE A DECISION. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> SORRY. WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? >> THAT WAS IT, SIR? JUST THAT AGAIN RIGHT NOW TO PUT THIS ON THIS BOND AND FOR US TO SUPPORT IT AS A STAFF, WE DON T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE FOR US TO DO. >> I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO ASK SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. >> WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS ARE NOT JUST WITH OUR ANIMAL SHELTER THAT WE PARTNER WITH IN COLIN, BUT WITH ANY, WITH OVERCROWDING, WITH OLD PETS, WITH INJURED PETS, SICK PETS, THAT SAD TIME OF PET OWNERSHIP OUR FAMILY WENT THROUGH THAT IN JUNE, AND THEN ALSO THE JOY OF HAVING PETS AND OF VOLUNTEERING, WHETHER IT'S AT THIS FACILITY OR REALLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT VOLUNTEER. BECAUSE VOLUNTEERING IS THAT CITIZENS' WAY OF VOTING EVERY DAY ABOUT THE CITY THAT THEY WANT. SO I CERTAINLY APPLAUD THAT EFFORT. I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH THE CONCEPT OF A CITY-RUN AND MANAGED ANIMAL SHELTER OF BUILDING A BOX OF THIS IDEA OF BRINGING THE PROBLEM FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY TO INSIDE THE CITY. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOLVE ANYTHING. WE'RE STILL FACED WITH THE SAME ISSUES, THE SAME CHALLENGES. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE CAN APPROACH AND WE'RE HEARING FROM STAFF, THERE'S WAYS TO FINANCE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS BUT THE GAP BETWEEN THESE IDENTIFIED PROBLEMS AND THIS CONFLICTING DATA AND WHAT THINGS COST, BUILDING A BOX AND HAVING THE CITY OWN AND OPERATE IT, I THINK THE MISSING COMPONENT IS HOW DO WE TAKE A STEP BACK FROM THIS AND ASSESS AND BUILD ON YOUR THREE THINGS. [03:35:04] I HEARD REUNITING PETS, I THINK EDUCATION WAS THE SECOND ONE AND ADOPTION. BUILDING ON THAT, I KNOW SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I'VE HEARD IS THAT IT'S HARD TO GET REUNITED WITH YOUR PET ON THE WEEKEND. IF THE PET IS PICKED UP ON A FRIDAY, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T GET THE PET UNTIL MONDAY. YOU HAVE THE NEW APP, I THINK THAT HAS BEEN MISSED, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING AND PROMOTING AND WE TALKED ABOUT BEING A CITY OF TECHNOLOGY AND OF INNOVATION AND A FORWARD-LOOKING, FORWARD-LEANING. EDUCATION. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT CHIPPING, SPAY-NEUTER VACCINATIONS, THE HEALTH OF THE PETS, CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'S A MUCH BROADER OPPORTUNITY FOR ADOPTION. I'VE SEEN LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PETS HOST LITTLE MINI ADOPTIONS AT THEIR BUSINESS AS A DRAW FOR NEW CUSTOMERS AND THEN I'VE STRUGGLED WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT FROM COLLIN COUNTY. THAT THEY'RE FROM OTHER ANIMAL SHELTERS IN THE AREA THAT HAVE SOMEHOW SHOWN THE INITIATIVE OR HAVE SOME TIE TO THE BUSINESS OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY'VE COME INTO FRISCO TO ENCOURAGE PET ADOPTION, WHICH I'M ALL FOR. I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO BLOCK ANY CITY'S OPPORTUNITY TO GET PETS ADOPTED. SO I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BUILD ON YOUR THREE FOUNDATIONAL TASKS, YOUR DUTIES. I THINK I'VE HEARD FROM THE CITY MANAGER HERE AND OUR LEGAL TEAM, IF THERE'S WAYS TO LEGALLY COME UP WITH CONTRACTS AND OBLIGATIONS AND WAYS TO FUND THAT. FOR ME, IT HAS BECOME AGAIN, WHAT I DIDN'T WANT A POLITICAL ISSUE VERSUS A POSITIVE SOLUTION AND A POSITIVE OUTCOME. SO WHEN THE TIME COMES, I'LL SIMPLY STATE MY POSITION HERE. I'LL VOTE TO APPROVE OPTION A, WHICH IS THE BOND PROPOSITION WITHOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK WE CAN DO WITHOUT HAVING TO BUILD A BOX AND OUT OF THE CITY, RUN AND MANAGE IT. I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING BEFORE THE CITIZENS WHO'VE ALL EXPRESSED THE DESIRE FOR THIS FACILITY AND SAY THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU SUPPORT. >> YES, SIR. I KNOW THAT IT'S A PASSIONATE ISSUE AND IT HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS I'VE WORKED WITH MANY OF THESE PEOPLE SIT BEHIND ME FROM WHEN I WAS A LIEUTENANT AND SERVICES. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S PASSION BEHIND IT, BUT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE WITH STAFFING A CITY-RUN BUILDING, IT'S NOT JUST VOLUNTEERS AT THAT POINT. IF CITY-OWNED AND CITY-RUN, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IT OPEN. THAT BRINGS SOME OTHER CHALLENGES. SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GET BETTER. AGAIN, I STATED THAT WE HAVE OVER 40 PERCENT REDEMPTION RATE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS RUNNING. IT'S BEEN A GOOD THING TO SEE OUR ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS GET FULLY STAFFED. WE WERE REALLY LOW, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN BACKUP JUST WHAT STAFFING NEEDS TO BE, AND WE'RE SEEING SUCCESS OUT OF OUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU. >> I'LL GO NEXT. IT'LL COME TO NO SURPRISE TO MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT I'LL SUPPORT OPTION A AS WELL. BUT I LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND EXPLAIN WHY AND MAYBE ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL. CHIEF, YOU CAN SIT DOWN IF YOU WANT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO STAND, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED IN THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO WHERE I WAS QUOTED AS SAYING WE COULDN'T BUILD A BUILDING UNTIL WE HAD BONDS ALLOCATED, WHICH IS A TRUE STATEMENT. WE CAN'T. THAT'S THE WAY CITY GOVERNMENT WORKS. WE DO HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH, WHICH IS THIS PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS OUR STAFF PRESENTS INFORMATION TO A GROUP OF CITIZENS AND THEY WORK THAT OUT AND DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. WE'VE TAKEN GREAT PAINS TO MAKE SURE THE CITIZENS WERE HEARD IN THAT PROCESS. THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OUR BOND COMMITTEE DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. BUT ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR ITEM, THERE WAS A SPLIT, THERE WAS A FRACTURE IN THE BOND COMMITTEE. THEY WERE NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF IT, WHICH IS UNUSUAL FOR OUR CITY. THAT CAME TO US AT COUNCIL NOW. [03:40:03] WHAT I'M LEFT WITH IS EVALUATING THE INFORMATION THAT OUR STAFF PRESENTED, THE INFORMATION THAT CITIZENS PRESENTED, AND THE INFORMATION THAT OUR BOND COMMITTEE CHOSE TO PRESENT TO US. I HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHAT CHIEF CLAY SAID A LITTLE BIT AGO ABOUT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. IN THIS CASE, FROM MY VOTE, THIS ISN'T JUST A VOTE ABOUT PUTTING IT IN FRONT OF THE CITIZENS. IF WE DID THAT ON EVERY ISSUE, THAT'S CONTRARY TO THE WAY OUR ENTIRE DEMOCRACY IS SET UP, OR REPUBLIC IS SET UP? TO ME THE VOTE TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF THE CITIZENS OR NOT? IF I WERE TO VOTE YES ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I'M GOING TO THE CITIZENS AND SAYING, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION HERE. I BELIEVE IN THIS PROJECT, WILL YOU AUTHORIZE ME TO SELL DEBT AND SPEND YOUR TAXPAYER FUNDS ON IT? I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITIZENS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A FEW REASONS BEHIND THAT. ONE, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IS GOING TO GET CLOSE. THEN WE GET DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE STUCK IN A POSITION OF, WELL, NOW WE'VE PLANNED IT AND IT COSTS MORE. WHAT DO WE DO? WE GOT TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN OF PUTTING BONDS IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS, THEN WE'VE GOT TO CONVINCE THE VOTERS AS TO, WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK FOR ENOUGH IN THE FIRST PLACE? WE'VE SEEN THAT WITH ARTS BONDS AND THAT WAS USED AS AN EXAMPLE HERE. BUT I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE BONDS THAT WE SOLD BACK IN, TAMMY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 2015, IT'S ABOUT 14 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WAS FOR A COMMUNITY THEATER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 300-500 SEATS. WE BELIEVED AT THAT TIME THAT, THAT 14 MILLION DOLLARS WOULD DO IT. SINCE THAT TIME, THAT PROJECT HAS CHANGED ENTIRELY IN ITS SCOPE AND WE WILL LIKELY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AGAIN AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE BOND COMMITTEE OPTED NOT TO PUT THE ARTS BONDS ON THIS PARTICULAR BALLOT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING STAGES AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE. FOR THE SAME REASONS HERE, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE A STRATEGY, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS. BECAUSE IF I GET ASKED, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD? I DON'T KNOW, I COULDN'T TELL YOU. WHAT'S THE MONEY GOING TO BE USED FOR? A BOX? HOW BIG? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PETS IT CAN HOLD. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION LIKE WE DO ON THESE OTHER ITEMS. EVERY OTHER ITEM ON HERE HAS BACKGROUND, IT HAS FACTS, IT HAS FIGURES, IT HAS DATA BEHIND IT, EVEN THE ROAD BONDS. WE KNOW WE CAN BUILD APPROXIMATELY X NUMBER OF LANE MILES OF ROADS WITH THOSE BONDS. IF WE GET LUCKY AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS COME DOWN, THOSE FUNDS GO FURTHER, AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, I CAN REMEMBER WHEN A LANE MILE OF ROAD COSTS $1.2 MILLION. I THINK IT'S UP TO 3.2 NOW. PART OF MY CHALLENGES, I DON'T HAVE A PROJECT THAT I CAN LEGITIMATELY GO TO THE VOTERS ON. IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, I HAVE PROBABLY 20 PAGES OF NOTES HERE FROM THE LAST TWO MEETINGS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T HIT OR MISS ANYTHING MAJOR. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT PARTNERSHIPS WHETHER THAT'S WITH COLLIN COUNTY, DENTON COUNTY, FISD, SOME OTHER NOT-FOR-PROFIT OUT THERE. THOSE ARE ALL GOOD OPTIONS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER. BUT WHERE I'M AT ON THAT RIGHT NOW IS I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND DO SOME PLANNING AND MAKE A STRATEGY FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BECAUSE IF WE JUST SAY, WE'RE OPEN TO ALL THESE OPTIONS, BUT THERE'S NO PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO END UP SPINNING OUR WHEELS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE'VE HAD SOME PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS WHERE THAT'S HAPPENED AND THEY JUST MIRED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THEY DON'T GO ANYWHERE. I'D RATHER TAKE THE TIME TO COME UP WITH A MORE DEFINED STRATEGY ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK WE CAN TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT. THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER RIGHT NOW I THINK WE CAN EXPAND ON THOSE, BUT THAT'S NOT BOND DOLLARS. THAT'S BUDGETARY OPERATIONAL DOLLARS AND I THINK WE CAN DO MORE FOR PETS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY REQUIRES A BUILDING TO DO THAT. I'LL ACTUALLY GIVE CREDIT TO MY COLLEAGUE, MS. RUMMEL, SHE HAD STARTED TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF SETTING UP A NOT-FOR-PROFIT TO HELP DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS. THEN SHE GOT ELECTED AND WE'VE KEPT HER BUSY WITH OTHER STUFF SINCE THEN. BUT OVER ALL OF THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND [03:45:01] PEOPLE HAVE EMAILED ME AND I'VE SAT DOWN AND TALKED WITH THEM, SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO FIND A WAY TO TRY TO DO SOME OF THOSE INTERIM STEPS WITHOUT IT HAVING TO BE A BUILDING. FOR THAT I'VE GOT TO APPLAUD HER BECAUSE, LITERALLY, THE ONLY ONE THAT CAME TO ME THAT WAS WILLING TO DO THOSE THINGS. I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE THERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO MORE THERE. BUT AGAIN, WITHOUT A BUILDING. I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS AT THAT. I PROBABLY HAVE 20 OTHER THINGS IN HERE, BUT I WILL LET OTHERS SPEAK, AND IF WE HAVE A CONVERSATION MORE THEN I'LL INTERJECT AS NEEDED. >> I HAVE I HAVE A ONE-PAGE OF SUMMARY NOTES, SO I'M GOING TO BE MUCH QUICKER. I THINK I'VE SAID BEFORE, I'M NOT A PET PERSON, NOT BY CHOICE, BUT MY MOTHER WAS HORRIBLY ALLERGIC, SO I NEVER HAD A PET AS A CHILD AND NOW MY OLDEST DAUGHTER'S INHERITED THAT ALLERGY AND WE HAD A DOG FOR, I THINK, THREE DAYS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I HAD TO MAKE THE CHOICE BETWEEN THE DOG AND MY DAUGHTER, SO I CHOSE THE DAUGHTER. >> YOU ALMOST SAID DOG. >> I KNOW I DID. [LAUGHTER] I'VE STRUGGLED ON THIS SINCE WE BEGAN TALKING ABOUT IT. THE TERM ANIMAL SHELTER TO ME, IN MY MIND, THE WAY I'M PROCESSING THROUGH THIS, IS NOT NECESSARILY JUST A BOX THAT LOOKS LIKE A PRISON FOR ANIMALS. I THINK IT CAN BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT. I DO NOT I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WHAT THE MAYOR SAID BEFORE. I DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING AN ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNMENT RUNS OR DOES MUCH VERY EFFECTIVE, NO OFFENSE TO YOU, WEST. BUT RECENTLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO. YES, I AGREE. WE NEED EDUCATION ON RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP. WE NEED NEUTERING, CHIPPING, EDUCATION. WE DISCUSSED AT THE ONE OF THE BOND MEETINGS ABOUT A VIRTUAL SHELTER, WHERE WE ENGAGE MORE VETERINARIANS TO TAKE PEOPLE, TAKE ANIMALS OVERNIGHT, AND TO PROVIDE THE CRITICAL CARE THEY NEED AND TO WORK WITH THAT. THOSE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS. WHAT I VIEW THIS ON THE BOND IS IT'S A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD EITHER BE DONE ALONE OR WITH US TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE WANT TO DOWN THE ROAD. WE'VE TALKED TO LEGAL COUNSEL ABOUT WORDING AND ADDING TO APPROVE A BUILDING OR NOT RUN BY US OR RUN PRIVATELY BECAUSE I THINK THE PASSION IN THIS ROOM IS MUCH GREATER THAN A BUNCH OF BUREAUCRATS RUNNING THE ANIMAL SHELTER. I AM IN FAVOR OF GOING WITH OPTION B, HAVING THE ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE BOND. BUT I DON'T WANT ANYONE IN HERE TO THINK THAT I JUST WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF TO RUN. I WANT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, OTHER NON-PROFITS, AND HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY RUN IT AND MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE, LIVE UP TO WHAT FRISCO WANTS TO BE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE AND DO THAT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT PASSIONATE FOR ME. I DON'T HAVE AN ANIMAL. I PROBABLY WILL NOT HAVE ONE [OVERLAPPING] >> DOG IN THE FIGHT. >> I DON'T HAVE A DOG. THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] YOU WIN. THERE'S THAT. I WANT TO TAKE IT, I WANT IT IN THE TOOLBOX, I WANT IT AS A SIGN FROM US THAT WE'RE GOING TO STEP FORWARD AND DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE SAY WE CAN DO. IF WE DON'T END UP SPENDING IT, GREAT. IF WE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT, GREAT. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION B. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY ANOTHER REASON FOR THIS IS WE NOMINATED AS A COUNCIL, A SELECT GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT WE FELT REPRESENTED US, KNEW THE CITY, KNEW THE HEARTBEAT OF CITY, KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. WE APPOINTED THEM TO COME TO US WITH A BOND PACKAGE. I KNOW IT WAS A SPLIT VOTE AND SOMEBODY WASN'T THERE AND WHATEVER, BUT IT DID COME TO US. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALWAYS USED IN MAKING MY DECISION IS WHAT THE STAFF SAYS. I WOULD NOT SUPPORT GOING TO BUILD AN ANIMAL SHELTER TOMORROW OR THE DAY AFTER THESE BONDS PASS, NOR WOULD I PROBABLY WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT STAFF'S FULL SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO EXECUTE IT. BUT I THINK THIS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE VOTERS TO BE APPROVED AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT TOOL AND WE'LL DO WHAT FRISCO DOES AND DO SOMETHING GREAT THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY ADMIRERS AND COPIES [APPLAUSE] >> UNLIKE BRIAN, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT. [03:50:02] I OWNED PETS PROBABLY FOR THE PAST 20, 22 YEARS. IN FACT, MY DAUGHTER IS AN ONLY CHILD AND HAS CONSIDERED HER DOG PIPER, WHO HAS SINCE PASSED AS A SIBLING. FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, PETS HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF MY FAMILY'S LIFE. HAVING SAID THAT THOUGH, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I CAN'T MAKE PERSONAL DECISIONS. I HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED ON DATA, THAT ARE BASED ON FACTS, AND THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF FRISCO. AS I HAVE TOSSED THIS AROUND, TRYING TO KEEP MY PERSONAL BIAS OUT OF THIS, I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS DECISION AND WHEN I STRUGGLE, I TEND TO LAND ON THE SIDE OF DATA. I TEND TO LAND ON WHAT IS TRUTH AND WHAT IS LIGHT, REGARDLESS OF HOW I FEEL. I CONSIDER OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS A SUB-DEPARTMENT OF OUR FRISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO BE A CREDIBLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES OF DATA OUT THERE, PROBABLY 5-10 BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH PEOPLE. I CAN'T GO ON THAT DATA. I CAN GO ON THE DATA OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANIMAL SERVICE.I DON'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT CRIME STATISTICS DATA. I BELIEVE I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE WHAT THE FRISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT TELLS US ABOUT ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF CRIME. ANIMAL SERVICES IS A DEPARTMENT OF OUR FRISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M GOING TO RELY ON THAT DATA SOURCE. THAT DATA SOURCE IS SHARED WITH US THAT ON AVERAGE ABOUT 650 ANIMALS ARE A PART OF THE INTAKE THAT'S TAKEN TO OUR COLLIN COUNTY FACILITY. THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT 0.2 PERCENT OF THE 230,000 RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY. PI CANNOT IN GOOD FAITH RECOMMEND AND STAND BEHIND A BOND PROPOSAL THAT'S ONLY GOING TO IMPACT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA THAT CHIEF CLAY HAS PRESENTED OR CHIEF SHE WILSON WHO PRESENTED TO US NOT ONLY IN THE BOND COMMITTEE SETTING, BUT THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF THAT I'VE DONE ON COUNCIL THAT REPEATEDLY HAS SET THE DATA DOES NOT SUPPORT THE CITY INVESTING FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN AN ANIMAL SHELTER TODAY. I HAVE TO STAND BEHIND THAT DATA. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE FUNDS ALLOCATED, NOT NECESSARILY THROUGH OUR BOND PROPOSAL PROCESS, BUT ALLOCATE IT THROUGH THE CITY BUDGET OF SOME SORT. TOWARDS ANIMALS SERVICES SOLUTIONS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A SHELTER IS THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, SOLUTIONS THAT GET AT EDUCATION, THAT GET AT REUNIFICATION, THAT GET AT ADOPTION THAT SHE SHOULD PLAY SHARED EARLIER. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD EXPLORE THOSE SOLUTIONS THROUGH OTHER BUDGETARY MEANS AND I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS WITH SOLUTIONS TOWARDS THAT END. BUT AS IT STANDS TODAY, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF ORDINANCE END. THANK YOU. >> I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE IN FRISCO THAT HAVE NEVER AND DID NOT GROW UP WITH A PET AND I STILL DON'T OWN ONE. MY MOM WAS DEFINITELY AFRAID OF DOGS SO WE NEVER HAD ONE AND I HAVE JUST NOT BEEN USED TO IT THAT'S ON THAT SIDE. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT MY ROLE ON COUNCIL IS TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE AND LEARN ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE. I DO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE PET ADVOCATES THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY LISA ALLISON, WHO TOOK ME OVER TO CCAS TO CHECK IT OUT AND TALK TO THE DIRECTOR. YOU REALLY HAVE DONE A LOT TO GET AN ISSUE TO US. THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK. YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR ALL OF THE ADVOCACY THAT HOURS OF ADVOCACY AND VOLUNTEERISM BECAUSE THAT IS OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HEART BECAUSE YOU CARE,BECAUSE YOU LOVE ANIMALS. WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY TO OUR BOARD COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE LONG HOURS TOO BECAUSE YOU WERE DOING THAT OVER OCTOBER THROUGH JANUARY IN THE HEAT OF ALL OF THE HOLIDAYS AND YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR TIME. WE VALUE THAT AND WE VALUE THE PROCESS. TO OUR STAFF TOO, THIS HAS BEEN A LOT FOR YOU ALL TO HANDLE AND [03:55:02] TO HAVE IT TURNED INTO A CONTROVERSY IS NOT FUN. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE BEEN DOING TO ANSWER CONSTITUENT QUESTIONS. WHAT I THINK, WE'VE LEARNED FROM THIS PROCESS AND THAT IF YOU CREATE A VENN DIAGRAM OF WHERE WE ALL AGREE WHERE PET ADVOCATES, STAFF, COUNCIL, AND EVEN CCAS. NUMBER ONE, THERE DOES NEED TO BE INCREASED ANIMAL SERVICES. THAT IS THE DESIRE. THERE IS DEFINITELY A DESIRE. I THINK EVERYBODY CAN AGREE TO THAT. I THINK EVERYONE AGREES THAT THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS AN OPTION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE ONLY SOLUTION AND THAT CAME FROM THE BOND COMMITTEE. I HAVE TALKED TO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM PERSONALLY TO HEAR HOW THEY CAME TO THEIR CONCLUSION. THERE IS ALSO, I THINK EVERYONE WOULD AGREE THAT THERE IS CONFLICTING DATA. WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED SOME DATA AND THEN THERE IS DATA THAT HAS COME IN THAT DOES CONFLICT WHETHER IT'S VALID OR VERIFIED, BUT THERE IS A PRESENTATION OF OTHER DATA. THEN REALLY THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH ALL OF THAT, AND WHAT I BELIEVE OUR ROLE IS WERE IN GOVERNMENT. THE ROLE IS TO GOVERN. IT'S SHOWN THAT WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY, WE DON'T HAVE A GOVERNING POLICY ON THIS. THAT'S WHY IT'S COME TO THIS FEVER PITCH. THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE TODAY AND IT'S CONFUSING AND IT'S A CONTROVERSY AND IT DIDN'T NEED TO GET THERE. THAT'S SQUARELY ON US NOT HAVING A GOVERNING POLICY. WE NEED THAT. BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT CAN VALIDATE. IF THERE ARE OTHER DATA POINTS THAT THOSE ARE VALID, THEN WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPLORATION OF MULTIPLE PARTNERSHIPS. THAT IS SOMETHING YOU SAW WITH THE ARTS COMMUNITY WAS SEEKING OUT, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY, FINDING A PRIVATE PARTNER THAT WILL DONATE LAND, THAT WILL DONATE CAPITAL, THAT WILL HAVE OTHER PARTNERS THAT COME TOGETHER TO BUILD THE BIG DREAM, THE EXCITING POTENTIAL THAT IT DESERVES, THAT CHANGED THE SCOPE ESSENTIALLY OF WHAT IT WAS. BUT FOR THIS ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY RESOURCE CENTER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THERE IS THAT OTHER SIDE THAT YOU'VE ALL HAD GREAT IDEAS. WE CAN HAVE GROOMING. WE COULD HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR YOUR PET. YOU COULD HAVE PUPPY-PAINT NIGHTS. YOU CAN HAVE TAILS AND TAILS OR WHATEVER IT WAS. YOU CAN HAVE SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE PRIVATE PARTNERS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO. THERE IS ALSO CONSENSUS ON THIS COUNCIL, AS YOU JUST HEARD, THAT WE DO NOT WANT A CITY RUN ANIMAL SHELTER. IT ISN'T THAT WE DO NOT WANT AN ANIMAL SHELTER NECESSARILY, BUT IT'S CITY-RUN IS AN ISSUE. MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE A WAY TO WRITE THAT INTO THE BOND LANGUAGE THAT THERE IS AN ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT IT IS NOT A CITY-RUN. >> YOUR BOND COUNSEL WROTE THE ORDINANCE AND I THINK HE PROBABLY SHOULD ANSWER IT. I HAVE AN OPINION BUT HE PROBABLY SHOULD ANSWER. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. THERE ARE CERTAINLY WAYS TO GET TO A GOAL OF HAVING A PUBLIC FACILITY THAT IS PRIVATELY RUN. I WOULD BE REMISS TO SHOOT FROM THE HIP. THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ONLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR FRISCO, IN FACT, WE'D NEVER TAKEN THAT APPROACH BUT REALLY ON MUNICIPAL PROPOSITIONS IN GENERAL. I WOULD ASK IF THAT IS THE WISH THAT WE'D BE GIVEN TIME TO THE DEADLINE TO CALL AN ELECTION, TO EXPLORE THAT FURTHER. I WOULD HATE TO JEOPARDIZE THE SUCCESS IN ELECTION WITHOUT FULLY THINKING THROUGH THIS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT COME INTO PLAY, BOTH FROM STATE AND FEDERAL LAW AS IT RELATES TO TAX EXEMPTION OF MUNICIPAL BONDS. >> IT'S POSSIBLE? >> YES. IT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE IT IS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER FOR YOU RATHER THAN GIVE YOU SOMETHING I'M NOT CONFIDENT IN. >> IT'S POSSIBLE JUST NOT TONIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]. [04:00:02] >> YES, MA'AM. THAT IS CLEAR. LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE TO ENCOMPASS THAT SO IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS DRAFTED ON THE SPOT, ON A FAIRLY UNCLEAR ISSUE AND ULTIMATELY REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEFORE THEM. >> DOES THE CALENDAR ALLOW US TIME TO DO THAT? >> THE DEADLINE FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ANY ACTION FOR THE ELECTION IS FEBRUARY THE 17TH. ASSUMING COUNCIL MEETING COULD GETS SCHEDULED PRIOR TO THEN, THAT WOULD BE YOUR DEADLINE. >> THERE'S NOTHING PROHIBITING US FROM CALLING ANOTHER BOND ELECTION NEXT YEAR, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE SPENT TIME PLANNING AND WORKING ON SOLUTIONS, IF WE WANTED TO CORRECT? >> THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING YOU FROM NEXT YEAR OR EVEN THE NOVEMBER UNIFORM ELECTION DAY. YES SIR? >> THANK YOU. YOU MAY SIT DOWN. I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION TOO. HOW DID THE FIVE MILLION? HOW WAS THAT THE DEFINED NUMBER FOR THIS? >> THAT'S A NUMBER THAT THE BOND COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH. THE POLICE CHIEF, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE STAFF OR ANIMAL SHELTER, POLICE CHIEF DID DO A PRESENTATION. I THINK THE NUMBER WAS 13. >> NO. IT WAS 15.2 MILLION, WAS WHAT STAFF PRESENTED FOR A NUMBER AND THE BOND COMMITTEE WENT BACK-AND-FORTH AND DISCUSSED 10 MILLION AND FIVE MILLION IN BACK-AND-FORTH AND NO MONEY. THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY READ OF THE CONVERSATION WAS FIVE MILLION IS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING. I THINK MY WORDS, THEY FELT COMFORTABLE PROVIDING SOMETHING WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE WASN'T A CLEAR PATH FORWARD. BUT SOMETHING WAS BETTER THAN NOTHING IN THEIR MIND AND 5 MILLION WAS WHERE THEY LANDED AS OPPOSED TO FOR EXAMPLE 10. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ON WHAT JEFF JUST SAID, WHEN YOU HAVE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, GO BONDS ARE NOT ALWAYS THE WAY TO GO. THERE ARE OTHER FINANCING TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE. WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THOSE ARE MAYBE Y'ALL DIDN'T DISCUSS IT, BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE STANDARD LANGUAGE TO DO THIS TYPE OF PROPOSITION FROM WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. >> DOESN'T THAT MIGHT BE UNFAMILIAR. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED? >> WELL, YOU CAN ISSUE TAXABLE GO BONDS, YOU CAN ISSUE TAXABLE CO BONDS, YOU CAN ISSUE REVENUE BONDS, WE COULD USE CASH. I THINK THAT'S MT BE WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT IN [OVERLAPPING] EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT USING CASH FROM CDC FUNDS. >> WE MENTIONED CDC AS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR MULTIPLE TYPES OF [OVERLAPPING]. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DID WANT TO ADMIT A CONCERN AS WELL AS PUTTING A PROPOSITION BEFORE THE VOTERS. OBVIOUSLY, THE EXPECTATION AND STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE VOTERS GET WHAT THEY'VE APPROVED. THE IDEA OF A PUBLICLY OWNED ANIMAL SHELTER THAT IS PRIVATELY OPERATED, MY FIRST LEGAL QUESTION BECOMES, WHO'S OUR OPERATOR? HOW ARE THOSE QUESTIONS THEY'RE ANSWERING TO THE PUBLIC, WHEN THEY WANT TO KNOW THE DETAILS I DON T KNOW? THAT'S A CONCERN. >> ITS A LITTLE THING. >> ONE OTHER THING. JEFF HAS MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT THESE ALSO REQUIRE ATTORNEY GENERAL APPROVAL. IT'S NOT JUST BOND COUNSEL WHO CAN RECOMMEND THE LANGUAGE OR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE. IT'S GOT TO ALSO PASS ANOTHER ENTITY. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> IF THE COUNCIL DID WANT TO LOOK AT AN ANIMAL SHELTER THAT IS PRIVATELY RUN, WE WOULD NEED TO DISCUSS, STRATEGIZE, AGREE ON HOW BEST TO FUND THAT ASIDE FROM A BOND SO THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT INTO [OVERLAPPING]. >> THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN AN IMMEDIATE QUESTION, BUT I'LL ANSWER. YES, MA'AM. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SIMILAR PROJECTS IN FRISCO, MANY OF THEM. BUT WE HAD MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS OF PLANNING THAT WENT INTO THAT AND LATE NIGHTS AND CONVERSATIONS AND LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT GOT US TO WHERE WE WANTED. WE ARE SHOOTING FROM THE HIP A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. AGAIN, MY JOB IS TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE WITH THAT APPROACH AND HOPEFULLY I'VE MADE THAT CLEAR. IF NOT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. [04:05:06] >> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ANY SECRET WHERE I STAND ON THIS ISSUE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN RESCUE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 10 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN GOING TO CCAS MYSELF, AND PICKING THE DOGS OF WHICH WE ARE GOING TO SAVE WITHIN THE RESCUE. SOMEONE ASKED, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WE ARE LOOKING TO SOLVE? THE PROBLEM IS THAT OUR SHELTERS ARE OVERCROWDED. NOW THERE IS A MULTI-PRONG APPROACH FOR US TO HELP TO FIX THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S ANIMAL ADVOCACY AND EDUCATION, THERE'S PARTNERING WITH NON-PROFITS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING TO ABANDON THEIR DOG JUST NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FOR FINANCIAL REASONS. THEN THERE'S EXPANDING THE CAPACITY OF SHELTER SPACE WITHIN OUR METROPLEX AREA. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT STRESS AND HOW MUCH PUBLIC SAFETY HAD AN ANIMAL SERVICES WHO I'M A HUGE FAN OF BY THE WAY, HAS TAKEN INTO LOOSE AND DOMESTICATE LOOSE ANIMALS. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PURPOSE OF A SHELTER. A SHELTER CAN BE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME AND ABANDON THEIR DOGS. THE NUMBERS OF JUST OUR INTAKE ARE INCONCLUSIVE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE JUST PUBLIC SAFETY. WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE 1,000 CALLS LAST YEAR FOR DOMESTICATED INBOUND, BUT ONLY 600 ACTUALLY WENT TO THE SHELTER. THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO A GREAT JOB OF THEM. EXCUSE ME, 600 WERE THE ONES THAT THEY IN-TOOK AND EVEN LESS THAN THAT WERE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GONE TO THE SHELTER. THAT'S ONE DATA POINT THOUGH. YES, THAT IS THE DATA POINT THAT WE HAVE AS FRISCO PD, I WOULD EXPECT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING. BUT WHAT WE'RE MISSING IS THE NEIGHBORS FROM NEXT DOOR WHO FOUND AN ANIMAL ON THEIR BEHALF. THE ONES THAT TOOK AN ANIMAL DIRECTLY THERE TO ONE OF OUR AREA SHELTERS. THERE IS THE CORRECT VIEW FROM OUR PDS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY SAW FROM A CALLS ANSWERED IN A SERVICING PERSPECTIVE AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. REUNIFICATION THOUGH, IS ONLY ONE PIECE OF AN OVERALL ANIMAL VISION. IT'S AN ANIMAL SERVICES IS THE OVERALL PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ADD SPECIFICALLY IS, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS. I'VE BEEN IN YOUR SITUATION ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'M ADVOCATING FOR THIS, STILL I'M. WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD JUST RECENTLY, I HAD TWO ORGANIZATIONS APPROACH ME AND SAY THAT THEY WANTED TO DO OUR ANIMAL SHELTER. ONE OF THEM WAS THE ROCK WALL SHELTER. THEY ARE CURRENTLY A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY ARE INDIVIDUALLY MANAGED BY A PRIVATE ENTITY, BUT THEY ARE RUN AS A CITY SHELTER AND HAVE A FANTASTIC PROGRAM BEHIND IT. THE SPCA CONTACTED ME, WANTED TO DO SOMETHING. THEY EVEN SAID THAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO HELP FUND RAISE FOR IT. THEY ALSO SAID THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT TAKING AN OLD BUILDING AND RENOVATING IT. WE JUST ARE LOOKING TO APPROVE PARK SPACE. I KNOW THE BUILDINGS ABOUT TO FALL DOWN, BUT MAYBE WE COULD RENOVATE THAT BUILDING IF DOGS AND CATS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOMETHING FANCY. I THINK THE FIVE MILLION DOES ACTUALLY GET US SOMEWHERE. YES, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE MOST SPARKLING BEST THING EVER AND THE BIGGEST THING. BUT TO THE POINT THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE, WE'VE GOT OTHER AVENUES LIKE CDC FUNDS, A PARTNERSHIP THAT COULD HELP US TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP BRING THIS WHOLE VISION TOGETHER. I THINK THE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS GIVES US A COMMITMENT TO SAY, YES, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN IT. NOW LET'S GO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS GOING TO RFP AND SAY, WHO WANTS TO PARTNER WITH US? WHAT SERVICES CAN THEY PROVIDE AND CAN THEY DO IT IN AN ASPECT VERY SIMILAR TO CCAS, BUT HERE LOCALLY WITHIN FIRST GO? ALL THAT SAID, I THINK THAT EXPLAINS WHERE I STAND. [APPLAUSE] >> WELL, THANK YOU ALL. THANKS FOR SHARING [LAUGHTER] YOUR COMMENTS. I MEAN, TRUTHFULLY, WE'RE ALL CLOSER THAN WE ARE FURTHER APART, I THINK OR WHERE WE STAND ON THIS. ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE FOR YOU, JEFF, REAL QUICK THAT I HAD ASKED EARLIER. [04:10:03] COUNCIL HAS MADE IT CLEAR UNANIMOUSLY, NO SUPPORT FOR A CITY OPERATED SHELTER. BUT IT WAS YOUR OPINION HOW THE ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN, THAT THE AVERAGE VOTER WOULD ASSUME THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PUTTING ON THE BALLOT. >> I THINK THE AVERAGE RUNNER WOULD CONCLUDE THAT YES, THAT'S A CITY FACILITY. >> JUST READING THE WRITING ON THE WALL, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL AND THE DIRECTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A AS THE OPTION ON THE BALLOT. BUT WITH DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS END GOALS THAT THE CAKE QUITE ISN'T BAKED YET. WE'D HAVE TO REWRITE THIS ANYWAY TO ACTUALLY REFLECT WHAT COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR. MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THIS IS IF WE COULD CRAFT LANGUAGE THAT DELIVERED WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. LIKE BRIAN SAID, IF A PRIVATE PARTNER CAME TO DELIVER THE SAME OR BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE AT THE SAME OR BETTER RATE. WE COULD BUILD THAT IN FRISCO THAT'S A PROJECT AND A BOMB PROPOSAL THAT I WOULD SUPPORT. THAT HASN'T PRESENTED ITSELF YET. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE WORK FROM HERE IS TAKE A POLICY DRIVEN APPROACH. I THINK TAMMY ARTICULATED THAT VERY WELL. THAT THOSE THAT MAY LEAVE DISAPPOINTED KNOW THAT I THINK FOR YOUR ADVOCACY, THE BALL IS MOVED FORWARD AND REALLY, THE NEXT STEPS ARE, WE NEED TO START WRITING THAT POLICY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER, AND WHAT WE NEED TO PLAN ON, AND THEN START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WHEN THAT RIGHT PRIVATE PARTNER PRESENTS ITSELF, THEN WE CAN START LOOKING TOWARDS THOSE TOOLS. >> I'LL ASK ONE MORE QUESTION TO THAT. I'M TIRED. I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. DID YOU SAY THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN TIME FOR US TO MEET AGAIN? >> NO, SIR. IF YOU DIRECTED ME TO EXHAUST ALL AVENUES TO COME WITH YOU WITH LANGUAGE THAT PASS LEGAL MUSTER AND YOU COULD CONVENE A COUNCIL MEETING ON OR BEFORE THE 17TH, YOU'D HAVE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. >> MY SECOND QUESTION ON THAT, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD DO IT REASONABLY? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING BACK AND ATTEMPTING TO DO? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT. >> CERTAINLY, I WANT TO REALLY EXPLORE THIS CONCEPT OF ASKING THE PUBLIC TO APPROVE COUNCIL USING PUBLIC FUNDS, WHERE WE ARE ESSENTIALLY CONTRACTING WITH THEM FOR THE LIFE OF THAT FACILITY UNTIL ANY BONDS ARE RETIRED. YOU HAVE ONE OPTION TO MANAGE THAT FACILITY AND IF THE LANGUAGE IS ORDERED IN A WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A CITY-OWNED COMMA, PRIVATELY OWNED OR PRIVATELY MANAGED ANIMAL SHELTER. I'M SPITBALLING, YOU ARE MARRIED TO THAT. IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER ELECTION TO CHANGE THE OPERATIONAL ARRANGEMENTS FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN PRIVATELY MANAGED, TO PUT IT UNDER A CITY DEPARTMENT. TYPICALLY WITH AREAS LIKE THIS, I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THE CITY'S BOND ELECTION. IN AREAS OF THIS, TYPICALLY WILL GO THROUGH A PRE-CLEARANCE PROCESS WITH THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, POTENTIALLY THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S AS WELL. WOULDN'T YOU HAVE NOVEL BALLOT CHARACTERISTICS LIKE THIS. BUT ULTIMATELY THAT IS WHAT THE TASK HAS TO BE. BUT AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT IF APPROVED, THAT BECOMES A CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO THE ANIMAL SHELTER UNDER THOSE CONSTRAINTS DESCRIBED. MAY I JUST MAKE A COMMENT. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PURPOSE AND INTENTIONALITY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. BUT I THINK JEFF MAKES IT AN IMMENSELY IMPORTANT IN POINT AND HERE'S A SIMPLER WAY TO DO THIS WITHOUT CREATING THE MACHINATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO IN TO TRY TO SET THIS A CERTAIN WAY AND THEN COME BACK AND IF SOMETHING WEREN'T VIABLE BECAUSE THE PRIVATE ENTITY YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO SUSTAIN ITSELF. THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN FROM A COLLECTION STANDPOINT AND THAT WOULD BE TO FOCUS ON ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE. [04:15:02] BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE SIMPLER WAY. BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IF JEFF IS CAPABLE, I BELIEVE HE'S CAPABLE. IF HE'S ABLE TO COME BACK WITH PRE-CLEARANCE AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS TO PRESENT SOMETHING THEN YOU ARE LIMITING YOUR OPTIONS WITH IF A FACILITY OWNED BY THE CITY BUT OPERATED PRIVATELY WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL. THE ONLY OPTION WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FIND SUCCESSFUL PRIVATE PARTNERS. >> IN THE INTERIM, THERE WOULD BE NO FUNDING PUT TOWARDS OTHER ANIMALS SERVICES SOLUTIONS? I'M ASKING. [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM EARLIER, IS THERE'S MORE THAN ONE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. WE'RE TRYING TO BOX IT INTO THE FOUR WALLS OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER AND IF THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS OUT THERE, ARE WE FREE TO PURSUE THOSE OTHER OPTIONS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A BOND THAT IS SEEKING A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP? >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING IT. WE ARE AND I THINK STAFF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS WE DO IT WELL. I THINK THE COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT. I DON'T THINK WE ARE VIEWED AS YOUR TYPICAL BUREAUCRATS. THE FACT THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING WELL, I WOULD SAY, AND THEN WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO IMPROVE WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT'S PART OF THE MISSION THAT WE ALL HOLD COLLECTIVELY. THAT IS WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION AND WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENT ABOUT COMMUNICATING THAT WITH ANYBODY AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY, IS THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THE WAY WE PROVIDE THE SERVICES WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE, TO MAKE THEM MORE EFFECTIVE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE A POLICY CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, THEN IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE IN MY MIND SOME POINT A REQUEST FOR THE NECESSARY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO DO WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. >> TIMING AND PRIORITY QUESTION. RATHER THAN TRYING TO CRAFT LANGUAGE AND STUFF, THINGS INTO A TINY BOX AND TRY TO GET IT DONE IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS AND SOME OF US ARE TRAVELING. EVEN IF WE LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS THAT HAVE TO BE PRIORITIZED. WHETHER THAT'S ADDITIONAL ROADS THAT WE'RE BUILDING, WHETHER THAT'S ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, BUT ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS IN THERE HAVE TO BE PRIORITIZED. IT WILL TAKE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME TO WORK THROUGH ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS AND FOR THIS TO BE SLOTTED IN THE PRIORITIES OF HOW FAST IT GETS DONE. WE CAN THEORETICALLY CRAFT THIS AND STUFF IN THERE AND TRY TO GET IT APPROVED IN THE NEXT 17 DAYS. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO RUSH TO A SOLUTION WHEN IT MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE WE CAN SLOT THIS INTO THE PRIORITIES AND WE CAN BE WORKING ON THOSE STRATEGIES AND THOSE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. IF WE GET THAT IN PLACE, IF WE FIND A PRIVATE PARTNER IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND IT TAKES US A FEW MONTHS TO WORK OUT THE AGREEMENT WELL, NEXT YEAR WE CAN COME BACK AND PUT IT ON THE BONDS ON AN ELECTION NEXT MAY. OR EVEN NEXT NOVEMBER, WITHOUT HAVING TO TRY TO HAMSTRING OURSELVES INTO A BOX. WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE TIME BEFORE WE'D BE ABLE TO SELL THESE ANYWAY. WE WE ALL KNOW THAT WE WOULD PREFER ANOTHER PARTNER INVOLVED IN THIS SOMEHOW SOME WAY WE KNOW THERE'S OTHER SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THESE OTHER PROBLEMS. I QUESTION WHY WE'RE TRYING TO STUFF IT INTO A LITTLE BOX IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS WHEN I THINK WE'VE GOT TIME TO WORK ON IT AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE OTHER SOURCES ARE. >> JEFF, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING US FROM COMING BACK FOR A BOND PROPOSAL SPECIFICALLY FOR, LET'S SAY, AN ANIMAL SHELTER, ONCE WE HAVE A PRIVATE PARTNER IN PLACE SIX, EIGHT, NINE MONTHS FROM NO. >> YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU CAN A BALLOT ON ANY UNIFORM ELECTION DATE. >> IT MIGHT NOT BE A BALL AND THAT MIGHT BE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION OR [OVERLAPPING] CDC AND THOSE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE STRUCTURE. AS WE'VE SEEN WITH PAST PRIVATE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THEY'VE IN FACT, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE WERE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT I CAN RECALL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THEY WERE ALL SOME OTHER FORM OF FUNDING. [04:20:01] >> YES. >> HAVING THE BOND MONEY AVAILABLE LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO USE THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST MENTIONED. >> YOU MEAN HAVING VOTER APPROVAL FOR THIS? >> YES. >> MY SHORT ANSWER IS NO. DEPENDENT ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER WITH THE MAINTENANCE ISSUE. BUT NO, THERE'S STILL OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT THE JURY CAN BE APPLIED. >> JUST NEED TO DO AN ELECTION FOR THE NEW SOURCE. >> RIGHT. >> ANOTHER ELECTION TO REVOKE THE PRIOR AUTHORIZATION. >> OKAY. >> BUT WHAT MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE NIGHT ON THIS TOPIC, DOES THE EXTRA FIVE MILLION HURT US IN TERMS OF BOND RATING, THE RATE WE CAN GET, OUR FLEXIBILITY ON ANYTHING ELSE. JUST FOR THE RECORD I NEED A SHAKING OF HEAD NOW. >> NO. >> OKAY. >> IT'S ONE PERCENT >> JUST MAKING SURE. >> THE THING IS TO THOUGH, JUST REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT VOTER APPROVAL BONDS BEFORE FOR PROJECTS. WE'VE GOT AN EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR BRANCH LIBRARY. WE HAD A A ONE MILLION DOLLAR FOR THE MCKINNEY ROAD MUNICIPAL FINANCE CENTER THAT WE NEVER SPENT. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. WE HAVE THREE, AND WE DIDN'T EVER GO BACK AND HAVE THE BONDS REVOKED, WE JUST LET THEM EXPIRE, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. >> JEFF, WAS THERE ANY CONCERN WITH HEARING WHAT WE WANT TO DO? COULD WE GO TO THE VOTERS WITH THE VERBIAGE THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON TODAY? COULD WE GO TO THE VOTERS WITH THE VERBIAGE KNOWING THE INTENTION WE'RE TRYING TO DO? >> THIS IS A TOUGH QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE WITH THE INTENT OF MAKING SURE THAT IT'S NOT A CITY RUN FACILITY, IS REFLECTED IN THE LANGUAGE, CURRENTLY. THE LANGUAGES, WILL GET YOU FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS AN ANIMAL SHELTER. HOWEVER, THE STATEMENTS AND THE COUNCIL DIRECTION TRUTHFULLY WOULD CONFLICT, IT WOULD GET YOU A FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ANIMAL SHELTER AND I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE UNCLEAR WHETHER YOU CAN COMMIT PUBLIC FUNDS FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND THE OPERATION OF THAT AT THIS POINT, OR WHETHER THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN SUCH A POSITION THAT YOU'RE LIMITED POTENTIALLY TO USING ONLY PRIVATE MONEY TO OPERATE AND RUN THAT FACILITY. >> THIS IS CAPITAL PROJECTS, SO WE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING ANY OF THIS TOWARDS M&O, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. BUT I GUESS I WOULD SAY THERE WOULD NEED TO BE CLARITY FROM COUNCIL WHETHER YOUR INTENT IS TO LIMIT THE MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION OF THAT FACILITY FROM SOMETHING THAT FALLS UNDER A CITY DEPARTMENT TO SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S PURVIEW. DOES THAT HELP? I GUESS WE'VE MUDDIED THE WATERS A BIT, SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE'RE JUST CLEAR SO THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION WHAT THE VOTERS ARE VOTING UPON. >> WHICH IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE. >> IF THE COUNCIL'S INTENT IS NOT TO BE A CITY RUN AND CITY OPERATED FACILITY, THEN YES I THINK THAT OUGHT TO BE MADE MORE CLEAR. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT DIFFERS FROM ALL OF THE OTHER PROJECTS AND ANY PUBLIC-PRIVATE PROJECTS WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HAVE HAD IN FRISCO, HAVE NOT BEEN GO BONDS. ALL OF THESE OTHERS, ROADS, PARKS, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THOSE ARE CITY ASSETS, THAT THOSE ARE CITY RUN ASSETS. I THINK WE HAVE DRAWN A DISTINCTION HERE. >>BUT THIS IS NOT, IF BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL HAS DESCRIBED AS A PATH THEY WOULD CONSIDER GOING FORWARD, THIS WOULD NOT BE THE FUNDING TOOL LIKELY OR IT HASN'T BEEN IN THE PAST? >> IF IT'S TO BE PRIVATELY RUN, I WOULD SAY AT THIS JUNCTURE TONIGHT AT THIS HOUR, NO. ARE YOU ASKING I'M SORRY, MAYOR, WITH IT BEING PRIVATELY RUN [OVERLAPPING]? >> CORRECT. >> I WOULD SAY FRISCO HAS NEVER USED GO BONDS FOR THAT PURPOSE. [04:25:07] >> EVEN ART'S IN THE ROT, WE HAD 14, WE'VE ACTUALLY SOLD 15 MILLION. WE HAD 14 MILLION, WE HAD TO SELL THEM AS GO TAXABLE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, AND THE ONLY REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAD THAT $14 MILLION AUTHORIZATION THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED, SO THAT'S WHY I SAID GO TAXABLE EARLIER. BECAUSE IF YOU ENDED UP PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT AND THEN YOU ENTERED INTO A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WE PROBABLY COULD STILL SELL THEM AS TAXABLE BONDS. BUT THEN THERE'S ALL KIND OF TAX IMPLICATIONS AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF REPORTING THAT WE HAD TO DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHEN WE HAD PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. >> ANITA, FOR THOSE OF US WHO DIDN'T COMPLETELY FOLLOW THE DIFFERENT PAYMENT TYPES YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE DIFFERENT FUNDING TYPES, IN MORE PLAIN ENGLISH, [MUSIC] CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP TO GO DOWN THE FUNDING METHOD YOU JUST MENTIONED? >> THE CITY HAS ALL KINDS OF FINANCING TOOLS. WE COULD EITHER USE CASH, YOU COULD USE CAPITAL RESERVE FUND MONEY. YOU COULD USE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BONDS, WHICH YOU DO HAVE TO APPROVE, AND WE DO ON NOTICE FOR THE CITIZENS, BUT THEY'RE NOT VOTER APPROVED BONDS BECAUSE USUALLY THEY'RE NOT PAID WITH PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, THEY'RE PAID FROM ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM. YOU COULD USE CDC FUNDS AS WEST TALKED ABOUT. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID ANOTHER TYPE OF BOND FUND. >> I SAID GENERAL OBLIGATION TAXABLE BONDS BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF HOW WE DID AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. >> THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL? >> NO THAT WOULDN'T. IF YOU PUT IT ON THIS BALLOT AND THEN WE GO DOWN THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ROUTE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TAXABLE, FOR THE MOST PART, PROBABLY. >> IF THEY'D BE ALLOWED AT ALL. WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT, THERE IS ACTUALLY A DECISION THAT COMES LATER WHEN WE SELL THE BONDS AND WE KNOW THE CONFINES OF WHAT THE BOND ISSUE LOOKS LIKE, TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL PRIVATE USE OR WE HAVE A PRIVATE ENTITY BENEFITING FROM THE FACILITY. TYPICALLY THAT LENDS ITSELF. WE HAVE TO ISSUE THOSE BONDS ON A TAXABLE BASIS. WHEN WE ISSUE TAX EXEMPT BONDS, THAT IS A SUBSIDY, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE US TREASURY BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC PROJECT. WE CAN'T HAVE PUBLIC PROJECTS FINANCED WITH TAX EXEMPT DEBT. IF A PRIVATE ENTITY, INCLUDING NON-PROFITS, ARE GOING TO USE, MANAGE, OR OTHERWISE BENEFIT FROM THAT TAX EXEMPT FINANCE FACILITY. THAT'S AN ANALYSIS WE GO THROUGH WHEN IT COMES TIME TO SELL BONDS, INCLUDING A LITANY OF OTHER ISSUES THAT MIGHT LEND ITSELF TO TAXABILITY. WHILE TRUTHFULLY, THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT GETS MADE TODAY. IT IS CERTAINLY A FACTOR IN THAT, WHEN WE SELL BONDS, WE TYPICALLY KNOW WHO ARE OPERATORS ARE OR IF WE HAVE PRIVATE USE. WE KNOW THE STRUCTURE, WE KNOW THE WORLD THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO TAX-EXEMPT OR TAXABLE. LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MADE TODAY, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD GET TRIGGERED WITH THAT TYPE OF PRIVATE ARRANGEMENT. >> THANK YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND THERE FOR MY QUESTION. MY LAST THING, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE SO LATE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERSONALLY IS THAT WE ALL COME TO A CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING. WHAT I THINK WE DO HAVE CONSENSUS ON ONCE AGAIN, IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE THE CITY OPERATE AND MAINTAIN AN ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT IS THERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALSO ARE INTERESTED IN OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER. ASIDE FROM THE BOND WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN. WELL, MAYBE THAT'S TOO FAR THEN SO WE AT LEAST AGREE THAT IT'S NOT CITY RUN. FOR ME PERSONALLY I DO THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS ASIDE FROM A BOND MEASURE THAT WOULD GO ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME POTENTIAL TIME, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT REQUIRES FOR US TO DO IT, WELL TO DO IT RIGHT. TO DO WHAT THIS ANIMAL SHELTER OR SERVICE OR RESOURCE CENTER DESERVES. >> YOU CAN SPIN CLEAR THAT WE STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE JUST DISCOVERED TONIGHT. WE WANT TO DO THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC AND THOSE THAT ADVOCATE ON THIS POSITION. [04:30:02] CERTAINLY WE APPRECIATE LAURA'S LEADERSHIP IN THIS REGARD AND WE CERTAINLY LEAN ON HER QUITE A BIT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS. CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION BEFORE SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION? >> SURE. >> FOR THOSE OF US THAT SUPPORT OPTION B, IT'S CLEAR IT'S NOT GOING TO PASS. BUT IF WE WANT TO BE ON RECORD IF WE, I DON'T WANT TO VOTE NO, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, STREETS AND ROADS, CITY SERVICE FACILITIES, PARKS, TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE AND THE DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE I WANT THE OTHER OPTION. CAN WE JUST HAVE A PUBLIC VOTE ON THE ON BEING IT WILL FAIL? >> THEN YOU HAVE THE REVERSE WHERE PEOPLE ARE VOTING AGAINST THE BOND, BUT WHAT GLENN >> THEN WE'LL VOTE FOR THE NEXT ONE AND IT WILL PASS. >> WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN VOTE ON A AND THEN YOU CAN JUST HAVE WRITTEN IN THE COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THE ANIMAL SHELTER. >> THANK YOU. JOHN OVER TO YOU. >> I'LL MOVE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE A CLINE, A BOND ELECTION FOR FIVE PROPOSITIONS, PROVIDING FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT. TO JOHN SECOND, BY BILL ON FAVOR? >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-1 AND BRIAN COMMENTS YOU WANT TO. >> I JUST WANTED TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR OPTION B. >> THAT WAS MY POINT, WAS THAT I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR OPTION B. >> IF YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE RECORD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED? >> I WOULD'VE SUPPORTED EVERYTHING ELSE. >> THE OTHER FIVE, [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. >> FOR VERY CLEAR CLARITY, I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED ALL OF THE FIRST FIVE. >> ARE YOU CHANGING, CAN SHE CHANGE HER VOTE ON THE ONE THAT WE JUST PASSED? >> YOU CAN DO IT THE SAME WAY AS BRIAN IF YOU PREFER. BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU VOTED NO AGAIN. >> IT'S JUST SO YOU'VE HEARD OR KNOW ALL THE SAFETY STREET AND ROADS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO. >> NO, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT WHAT WE INTENDED. >> WAS ALL WHAT I INTENDED TO DO. I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WORTH MENTIONING NOW OR DURING THE FOLLOW-UP LATER, BUT IF WE COULD COLLECTIVELY ALSO AGREE ON A TIME-FRAME OF WHEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THINGS, I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT PUTTING IN THE YEA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF VOTING FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. >> I'D ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WITHIN 60 DAYS. >> THAT WOULD BE THE START OF THE CONVERSATION OBVIOUSLY. THERE MAY BE OTHER DISCUSSIONS. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I'M IN SUPPORT. >> I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO DRAG OUT TO LAURA'S POINT. I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME SOLUTIONS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND EXPLORE AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THIS A YEAR FROM NOW. I WILL SUPPORT A YAY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP PLAN. >> SOMETHING YOU CAN. >> THINK WE JUST HAVE NON-VERBALLY AGREE ON THAT THERE WILL PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. >> POINT THAT OVER HERE TO ME. [LAUGHTER] >> [OVERLAPPING] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER. >> I WANT TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MAKE SURE WE ADD AT THE END AS A FOLLOW-UP TO FOLLOW. WHAT I GOT IS IT'S A 60 VOTE WITH A LOT OF OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY FROM BRIAN AND LAURA ABOUT THEY ALSO SUPPORTED THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM 28, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF FRISCO COLLIN DIDN'T COUNTIES BORDERING A GENERAL ELECTION TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE COLLIN COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND THE DENTON COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR ON MAY 6, 2023, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A MAYOR TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, PLACES FIVE AND SIX TO FILL EXPIRING TERMS, DESIGNATING EARLY VOTING POLLING PLACES AND HOURS, DESIGNATING ELECTION DAY POLLING PLACES AND HOURS. DESIGNATING FILING DEADLINES, ORDERING NOTICES OF ELECTION TO BE GIVEN AS PRESCRIBED BY LAW. IN CONDUCTION WITH SUCH ELECTION PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF ELECTION JUDGES, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, CITY SECRETARY TO TAKE ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE LAWS. WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. YES. >> DEBBIE LINDSTROM. >> THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND THIS LATE. >> YES. PRESIDENT. >> GOOD EVENING OR ARE WE ON MORNING YET? [LAUGHTER] MY NAME IS DEBBIE LINDSTROM AND I AM A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF FRISCO. MY ADDRESS IS 14055 REDWOODS CIRCLE NORTH. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT OUR ELECTIONS AND SPECIFICALLY TO SECTION 6 AND 7 OF YOUR PROPOSED ORDINANCES OR ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ABOUT VOTING EQUIPMENT AND COMPLYING WITH ELECTION LAWS. YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT ES&S EBS 6.110 USED IN COLLIN COUNTY HAS A KNOWN BUG, WHERE THIS KNOWN BUG CAN GIVE A FALSE POSITIVE RESULT WHEN TESTING THE HASH VALIDATION OF THE SOFTWARE. IS A VULNERABILITY OF THE ELECTION SYSTEM THAT COULD BE EXPLOITED IF NOT PATCHED. [04:35:07] THE BUG WAS DISCOVERED IN ONE OF OUR STAKE TECHNICAL EXAMINERS BY ONE OF THEM IN 2020. WHEN MR. BRIAN MCLAREN DISCOVERED THIS BUG, HIS RESPONSE TO THE OTHER EXAMINERS WAS THAT THE ISSUE IS A GIFT WRAPPED OPPORTUNITY TO AN INSIDER THREAT, AND THAT UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDANCE OF THE EAC AN INSIDER WOULD KNOW WHICH FILES NOT TO INSPECT. IT'S SIMILAR TO A BANK ROBBER KNOWING THAT THE CAMERA COVERING TELLER NUMBER 3 IS BROKEN. IN HIS WRITTEN REPORT ON EVS 6.110, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON THE SECRETARY OF STATE WEBSITE. MR. MILLER SAYS THE ESNS, HARSH VERIFICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN A GROWING ISSUE OF CONCERN OVER THE PAST FEW CERTIFICATION EXAMS. IN THIS EXAM, THEIR CUSTOMER RELATIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS PROCESS HAVE ALSO BECOME A CONCERN. AT THIS POINT, THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED IN DETAIL TO ESNS. I WILL NOT RECOMMEND CERTIFICATION OF FUTURE ESN RELEASES UNLESS THEY MAKE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EASE OF USE, RELIABILITY, AND TRACEABILITY OF THEIR HARSH VERIFICATION PROCESS. THAT'S UNQUOTE. MY HOPE IS THAT BEFORE THIS MAY ELECTION THAT YOU, THE CITY, WILL LOOK INTO THIS ISSUE AND AMEND YOUR ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT TO PERFORM A FULL PUBLIC LOGIC AND ACCURACY TEST ON ALL MACHINES USED BY THE CITIZENS OF COLLIN COUNTY AS REQUIRED BY TEXAS ELECTION CODE 129.023, WHICH THEY DID NOT DO IN THE LAST ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. THAT THE SAME MACHINES YOU WILL REQUIRE THE NEGATIVE HASH VALIDATION TO BE PUBLICLY TESTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUG IS NOT ACTIVE IN OUR MAY ELECTION. THIS IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE MORE SECURE FOR ALL CITIZENS. THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT HAS INDICATED IN AN EMAIL TO ME THAT THEY ARE WAITING TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY UNTIL THEY GET GUIDANCE FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION OF 2023. EVEN THOUGH THE LAW CLEARLY SAYS THAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING THOSE THINGS NOW, THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO CITIZENS. IT IS UP TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COLLIN ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS ACCOUNTABLE TO FOLLOWING THE LAW DURING OUR MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS IN MAY, SINCE YOU ARE CONTRACTING WITH THEM. THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? >> KRISTI DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? >> WELL, THIS IS JUST OUR ORDINANCE CALLING THE ELECTION. IN THAT THE NEXT MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED TO US. WHAT SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED BY EACH COUNTY? I DO HAVE A PROPOSED DRAFT CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME FROM COLLIN COUNTY THAT WAS SENT OVER LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THAT DOES INCLUDE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT SHE JUST OUTLINED AS TO DOING THE PUBLIC LOGIC TEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 1.27 (0) OF THE ELECTION CODE. THERE'S A WHOLE LONG LIST OF THINGS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET WITH ME AND EMAIL OR EMAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE, WE CAN ENSURE THAT WHEN THIS COMES BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE CONTRACT. BUT FOR WHAT I CAN SEE, IT'S ALREADY IN THAT CONTRACT AND WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THEM NEXT MEETING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS, KRISTI. >> WELCOME. >> COUNCIL, I LOOK FOR A MOTION. >> MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 28,. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY JOHN, SECOND BY BILL, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> THE MOTION PASSES 6-0 AND WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE EXECUTIVE SESSION WORKS. I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO RECESS AND EXECUTIVE. [OVERLAPPING] SECOND. MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY BRIAN, ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6, 0 RESETS AND EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN 11:35 P.M [BACKGROUND] >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE MOTION BY BRIAN SECOND BY BILL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> PASSES 600 RECONVENE REGULAR SESSION AT 12:57 AM. ITEM 29 IS CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF CONCERNING ANY ACTIONS REQUIRED BY STAFF AS A RESULT OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMAL SERVICES BEING ON A COUNCIL WORK SESSION SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. ANY OTHER THINGS NOTED? >> NO. >> GOVERNANCE MONITORING. >> I HAD IT. I GAVE US AN A MINUS, FOR TIME. [LAUGHTER] [04:40:04] >> FAIR ENOUGH. I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY JOHN, SECOND BY ANGELA. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 12:15 PM, AM, SORRY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.