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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRISCO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.WE'RE GATHERED AT 6101 BOULEVARD AND THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M.
THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CONSISTS OF FRISCO RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
TONIGHT, COMMISSIONS PRESENCE ARE STEVE CONE, SEAN MERRELL, BRYAN MORGAN, MYSELF, JON KENDALL, ED KELLY, JAKE PETRAS AND BRITTANY COLBERG.
REPRESENTING STAFF, WE HAVE JOHN LETHER FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, INCLUDING FILL CLEMER, JONATHAN HUBBARD, STEPHANIE SCOTT SIMS, SUZANNE PORTER, AND DANIEL PONDER, AND HOLLY MARTIN.
FROM ENGINEERING, WE HAVE JOE FITS AND TONY FARWEHIMI.
FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW, HE ACTUALLY WROTE IT OUT FOR ME, SO I SHOULD NEVER GET THIS WRONG AGAIN.
[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
FROM FIRE, JOHN GILLETTE, ANALISTA BARSTOW, LEGAL COUNSEL, WE ARE BLESSED, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE, RYAN PITTMAN, SO WELCOME.
HE HAD TO WAIT FOR THAT BEARD TO GROW IN A FEW MONTHS BEFORE HE COME.
[LAUGHTER] GOOD. THOUGHT IT'LL WORK OUT.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN INPUT.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE ON.
PLEASE COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM.
PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED, SO PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE OR ANY APPLICANT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
TO ENSURE THERE IS ENOUGH TIME FOR ALL TO SPEAK, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES UNLESS YOU MUST ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THROUGH A TRANSLATOR, IN WHICH CASE YOU MAY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
PLEASE NOTE, THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION DURING CITIZEN INPUT, ITEMS NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA, EXCEPT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, OR TO INDICATE THAT THE MATTER MAY BE PLACED ON A LATER AGENDA.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE, SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES?>> MOTION SECONDED BY BRIAN. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6-0.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
[NOISE] NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ROUTINE AND NONCONTROVERSIAL ITEMS. ANY COMMISSION MEMBER MAKING SUCH REQUESTS PRIOR TO A MOTION AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEM MAY CONSIDER ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY.
ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO WITH A MAJORITY OF THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION.
WE HAVE ITEMS 3-12 THIS EVENING.
ARE THERE ANY THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? [OVERLAPPING]
>> MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 3-12.
>> MOTION BY BRITTANY, A SECOND BY JAKE. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6-0.
[13. Preliminary Plat: Sarovar Addition, Blocks A, B & C (PP22-0008)]
[NOISE] TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA, AND I WANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS.EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS PRECEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUESTS.
THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED 10 MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION, FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION.
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
ALL SPEAKERS INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, NEED TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND PROVIDE IT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR POSITION.
PLEASE AVOID REPEATING WHAT HAS BEEN STATED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, OTHER THAN STATING THAT YOU AGREE WITH THEIR COMMENTS.
THE TIME LIMIT IS FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME IF A LARGE VOLUME OF PEOPLE ARE WISHING TO SPEAK.
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
REPEAT APPEARANCES TO THE PODIUM ARE NOT PERMITTED.
AFTER ALL PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASE WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED UNLESS CASE IS TABLED TO A FURTHER DATE, AND THE COMMISSION INCLUDES IN THEIR MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A FURTHER MEETING.
AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.
PLEASE NOTE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ONLY
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MAKES A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ZONING CASES.UNLESS THE COMMISSION DENIES THE CASE AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAL THE DENIAL, FINAL ACTION REQUIRED A PUBLIC HEARING BY CITY COUNCIL.
YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICE STAFF AS TO WHEN THE CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR CITY COUNCIL.
WITH THAT, WE WILL JUMP INTO ITEM 13, [NOISE] PRELIMINARY PLAT, SAROVAR ADDITION, BLOCKS A, B, AND C, PP22-0008, OWNERS ROTTER AND INDEPENDENCE, LLC.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
THIS PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED ON DECEMBER 12, 2022.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED A 30 DAY EXTENSION AT THE JANUARY 10TH, 2023 MEETING BY A VOTE OF 6-0.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND FOUND THAT IT FAILS TO MEET THE CITY'S ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND OTHER APPLICABLE CITY CODES, ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS, RULES, AND POLICIES OR STANDARDS AS NOTED NEXT TO EACH REASON FOR DENIAL IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AS SUCH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL FOR THE REASONS STATED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> MOVE TO DISAPPROVE ITEM 13 FOR REASONS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND DELEGATE TO STAFF, THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE REASONS FOR THE DISAPPROVAL.
>> SECOND BY BRIAN. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION IS DENIED.
MOTION IS DISAPPROVED. THANK YOU.
[14. Public Hearing: Saint Francis of Assisi (CFR), Block A, Lot 1R (V22-0012)]
ITEM 14, PUBLIC HEARING, ST. FRANCIS OF ASAHI, CF.ASSESSING CFR BLOCK A LOT 1RB22-0012.
>> GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR A SIGN BRANCH TO SECTION 70168, MONUMENT INDIVIDUAL SIGN MIS DEFINED AS AN UPGRADE SOLID BASE SIGN GENERALLY USED TO IDENTIFY TENANTS, AND NAMES OF BUSINESSES ON THE SAME LOT.
I'LL DESCRIBE THE REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THE ORDINANCE PRESCRIBES A MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET AND THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA OF 60 SQUARE FEET.
THE SIGN AS PROPOSED EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BY TWO FEET.
THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 25 PERCENT IN THE ALLOWED HEIGHT.
THE SIGN AS PROPOSED EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM AREA BY 21 FEET 9 AND FIVE-EIGHT SQUARE INCHES.
THIS IS A 36 INCH INCREASE OVER THE ALLOWED SIGN AREA.
THE SIGN ORDINANCE STATES THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL DETERMINE THAT A REQUESTS MEETS THREE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA IN ORDER TO APPROVE A VARIANT REQUEST.
THE FOUR CRITERIA THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER AS FOLLOWS, THE PROPOSED SIGN SHALL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY VISIBILITY, SIZE, AND THE LIKE.
STAFF'S COMMENT IS, THE SIGN IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO ELDORADO PARKWAY RIGHT AWAY.
THE WARREN SPORTS COMPLEX IS LOCATED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PUBLIC ROAD.
THE SIGN IS PROPOSED AS A DIGITAL DISPLAY AND MUST MEET THE SIGN ORDINANCE ILLUMINATION STANDARDS.
THE PROPOSED SIGN WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHEN MEETING ALL OTHER REGULATIONS OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
THE SECOND IS, THE PROPOSED SIGN WILL BE OF UNIQUE DESIGN AND/OR CONFIGURATION. STAFF'S COMMENT.
THE DESIGN MATERIAL AND FINISH ARE GENERALLY OF MASONRY CONSTRUCTION AND IS COMPLIMENTARY TO THE PRIMARY BUILDING ELEMENTS ON THE SAME LOT, THE MONUMENT HAS THE APPEARANCE OF A FULLY SUPPORTED BASE.
THE SIGN IS NOT OF A UNIQUE DESIGN OR CONFIGURATION.
THE THIRD CRITERIA, THE SIGN EXCEPTION IS NEEDED DUE TO A RESTRICTED AREA, SHAPE, TOPOGRAPHY, OR PHYSICAL FEATURE, THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY ON WHICH THE PROPOSED SIGN WOULD BE ERECTED.
STAFF'S COMMENT. THE PROPERTY IS A 24 ACRE CAMPUS PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED MONUMENT LOCATION IS AT THE SAME GRADE LEVEL AS THE ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THERE IS 52 FEET OF ELEVATION CHANGE ACROSS THE PROPERTY ALONG ELDORADO PARKWAY.
THIS TOPOGRAPHY DOES NOT IMPEDE THE VISIBILITY OF THE PROPOSED SIGN.
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TREES ADJACENT TO THE STREET ARE PROVIDED AS REQUIRED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.THIS IS SIMILAR TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND USE.
THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVES THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND WELFARE, AND DOES NOT VIOLATE THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE. STAFF'S COMMENT.
THE INCREASE IN SIGN HEIGHT AND AREA, DOES NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SIGN AND IT'S NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE.
THE VARIANTS ONLY MEETS ONE OF THE FOUR CRITERIA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL THAT THIS BRANCH REQUEST.
THESE THREE SLIDES ARE PREPARED BY STAFF, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO DEMONSTRATE THE SIZE OF THE SIGN RELATED TO A SIX FOOT PERSON.
I'VE COLORED IN GREEN THERE, MY EXAMPLE OF A SIX FOOT PERSON.
THE FIRST SLIDE HERE, IS THAT THE CURRENT SIGN THAT'S LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
IT IS A VARIABLE HEIGHTS SIGN AT ONE END, IT'S FIVE FOOT TWO IN HEIGHT, IN THE OTHER END IT'S FIVE FOOT SEVEN IN HEIGHT.
THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE SIGN THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY ORDINANCE, EIGHT-FOOT TALL AND 60 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE HEIGHT AND SIZE OF THE SIGN THAT'S BEING REQUESTED, 10 FEET TALL AND 81.6 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU DO HAVE.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK.
YOU MAY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR HIS PRESENTATION.
>> YOU CAN REFER TO THIS AS A PROPOSED SIGN.
HAS THE SIGN BEEN CHANGED YET?
>> NO. THE SIGN HAS NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
>> WHAT WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WERE THERE?
>> THEY DO HAVE A SIGN IN THAT LOCATION.
I ASSUME IT'S A REPLACEMENT OF THERE.
>> I WAS THERE LAST WEEK AND THIS SIGN WAS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED THAT I'M DISPLAYING THERE NOW.
>> WHAT'S ON THE STREET IS THERE TODAY?
>> IS IT GOING TO BE ILLUMINATED?
>> THIS WILL BE A DIGITAL DISPLAY AS PROPOSED.
>> WHERE IT SAYS WELCOME, THAT AREA WILL BE DIGITAL?
>> I THINK A PORTION OF THAT WILL BE DIGITAL.
THERE MAY BE SOME STATIC SIGNAGE ON THAT, MAYBE THE APPLICANT COULD ANSWER THAT.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S DIGITAL OR A STATIC PHYSICAL SIGN, IT WOULD STILL BE LIMITED TO THE 60 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
>> ARE THEY ONLY ALLOWED ONE MONUMENT SIGN ON ELDORADO FRONTAGE OR AT THE CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION WHERE THERE'S A STOPLIGHT, THEY ARE ALLOWED ANOTHER ONE FOR THAT STREET FRONTAGE AS WELL.
>> YOU ARE ALLOWED ONE MONUMENT FOR EVERY STREET FRONTAGE THAT YOU HAVE ON A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THEY HAVE TO STREET FRONTAGES.
THEY COULD PLACE TWO MONUMENTS ON THE SIDE.
THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT SPECIFY WHERE ON SITE, SO THEY TECHNICALLY COULD PUT TWO MONUMENTS ON ELDORADO FOR [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE AREA AT ROGERS ROAD, THEY COULD PUT ONE AT THE CORNER THERE TO SERVE AS THEIR FRONTAGE ON ROGERS IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING SIGN THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, CORRECT?
>> THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, ASK THE APPLICANT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
APPLICANTS HERE, WOULD THEY LIKE TO PRESENT? YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE THE TIME.
>> I'M GOING TO WALK THEM THROUGH THEIR SLIDES HERE BECAUSE I HAVE MANY JUST ONE SECOND.
THE FIRST FEW SLIDES ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED STAFF LAST WEEK.
I DID, BUT ALL OF THEM VISUALS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US, I'LL FOLLOW THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THE PICTURE, CAN YOU PROVIDE US THEIR FRONT LINE PRESENTATION.
THIS IS FORWARD AND THIS IS REVERSE.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS DOUGLAS JORGENSEN.
I'M WITH SCIENCE MANUFACTURING.
I'M HERE WITH A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
>> 4610-MIDWAY, DALLAS, TEXAS ON THERE.
WE'RE PROPOSING THIS SIGN MAINLY BECAUSE THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AREA, IT'S A SIX LANE ROAD WITH A GIANT MEDIAN IN THE BEGINNING OR IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S EASY TO MISS THE CURRENT SIGNAGE TO GO THROUGH.
I HAVE PRESENTED SOME SLIDES HERE.
THIS ONE IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THERE FOR THE SIZE ON THERE DEMOGRAPHICS SHOWING THE MEASUREMENTS.
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THAT'S THE SCALE TO THE CURRENT SIGN THAT'S THERE NOW.THE GOAL, WE PUT THEM SIDE-BY-SIDE SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
THE SECOND ONE, LET ME BACK UP HERE, IS AT THE EIGHT FOOT HEIGHT ON THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO THE SCALE OF THE CURRENT SIGN THAT'S THERE.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, IN SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE CURRENT SIGN.
MY PICKUP TRUCKS PARKED NEXT TO IT.
YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE MY PICKUP TRUCK.
THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE FULL-SIZE SIGN TO GO THROUGH.
TO ANSWER EARLIER QUESTION, THE WELCOME SIGN PART IS THE EMC AND THE ST. FRANCIS PART IS STATIC.
IT'S GOING TO BE BACK LIT ILLUMINATED WITH ROUNDED LETTERS.
SO IT WILL SHINE UP BEHIND IT TO GO THROUGH.
ALL THESE DRAWINGS ARE TO SCALE. LET'S SEE.
THIS ONE HERE IS JUST AN AVERAGE FOUR BY EIGHT TYPE EMC WITH THE CABINET THERE.
IT WOULD BE LIKE 48 SQUARE FEET OR 40 SQUARE FEET RIGHT IN THERE, AND THAT'S THE CURRENT SCALE.
ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE'RE WORKING WITH ON THE CHURCH ON THIS IS TWO TYPES OF ELECTRONIC MESSAGE CENTERS ARE PRE-PRODUCTION, AND SO THEY CAN GET A BETTER DISCOUNT ON IT TO HELP GET THEM MORE FOR THEIR MONEY.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I SAW THE HAND COME UP.
THAT'S A 4 BY 8 AND THE OTHER IS TO 5 BY 12 TO GO THROUGH.
TO DO THE 60 SQUARE FOOT ONE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND GET IT CUSTOM MADE AND THAT WOULD COST MORE THAN THE 6 BY 12 SIGN WOULD TO GO THROUGH.
WE'LL MEET THE SAME SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT SIGN.
IT'S ABOUT 30 FEET FROM THE ROAD THAT HAS THE TURN LANE, AND NOW AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS ONE DIRECTION THAT GOES UP THE HILL AND THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE SIGN.
WHEN YOU ARE COMING DOWN BECAUSE ALL THE TREES AND EVERYTHING, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THE SIGN COMING DOWN THE HILL EITHER.
DUE TO THIS, THEY CAN ADVERTISE TO THE NEW CUSTOMER OR NOT CUSTOMERS, BUT TRY TO GET NEW TENANTS IN TO THE CHURCH OR DISPLAY ANY MESSAGES THAT GO THROUGH ANYTHING THAT'S LIKE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, FOOD BANK, CUB SCOUTS, BOY SCOUTS, ANYTHING THAT THEY DO THERE.
THAT'S JUST A SETBACK SHOWING THAT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IN THE STREET, THEY'RE BASICALLY IT'S ABOUT 31 FT FROM THE ROAD, AND THAT'S INCLUDING THE 15 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY TO GO THROUGH.
THIS IS JUST STANDING NOT TO SIGN RIGHT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE LOOKING UP THE HILL.
YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE TOP OF THE HILL.
THEY CAN'T SEE IT UNTIL THEY GET DOWN ON THE TREES.
HAVING A BIGGER SIGN WILL HELP IT GET PAST THE TREES AND BEATEN UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TO 10 FEET WILL HELP NEGATE THE HILL AND THE SLOPE FOR WORD LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING IS ON THERE.
COURTS, YOU CAN SEE THERE, THEY'RE IN THE FAR RIGHT LINE, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER DUE TO HIGH TRAFFIC.
I HAD TO TAKE THESE ON THE SIDEWALK AREA TO GO THROUGH.
YOU SEE THE SIGN, BUT YOU CAN TELL IT'S THERE, THAT'S IT.
THAT ONE IS ABOUT MID-RANGE THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THE SIGN AGAIN ON THAT ONE.
NOW THIS IS FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FROM MEDIAN.
I'M TAKING THESE PICTURES POINTING AT THE SIGN.
THIS ISN'T AT THE DRIVER ANGLE OR ANYTHING REALLY.
I'M TAKING A PICTURE POINTING MY CAMERA AT THE SIGN.
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HERE ABOUT HALFWAY CLOSER, YOU NOTICE YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE SIGN.THAT'S IT. ALL YOU CAN REALLY SEE IS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE.
THAT'S MY PICKUP TRUCK PARKED NEXT TO IT, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT.
HERE YOU GET A BETTER VIEW. YOU CAN SEE IT.
YOU'LL SEE GOING DOWN THE HILL TOWARDS THE FAR LEFT LANE, THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE CURRENT MESSAGES AT THE CURRENT HEIGHT TO GO THROUGH.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO GO THROUGH.
JUST TRY AND GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA THE AREA AND THE TRAFFIC.
NOW, THIS IS COMING FROM THE PARK AREA, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN'T SEE THE SIGN AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE MY PICKUP TRUCK PARKED NEXT TO THE SIGN IN THE PARKING SPOT THERE.
I'M GETTING CLOSER. AGAIN, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT ON THERE, NOT EVEN AN OUTLINE. LET'S SEE.
THIS IS OVER TOWARDS THE FAR SIDE OF THE STREET, AND WE CAN'T SEE IT.
AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I'M AIMING MY CAMERA AT THE SIGN TO GO THROUGH.
I'M NOT DOING THIS AS A DRIVER WILL BE FACING TO GO THROUGH.
JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU, HERE YOU CAN'T SEE THE TRUCK, BUT WITH THE TRAFFIC, YOU CAN'T SEE THE SIGN TO GO THROUGH.
THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH CLEAR. HERE YOU SEE THEY OUTLINED THE SIGN.
YOU CAN SEE THE TRUCK RIGHT THERE.
I PARKED THE TRUCK NEXT TO IT SO YOU GUYS COULD GET AN EXAMPLE WHAT'S REALLY VISIBLE.
USUALLY BRIGHT RED TRUCKS STAND OUT.
>> WE'RE ALMOST DONE. THIS IS JUST ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSER.
I THINK THIS IS CLOSE TO THE LAST SLIDE.
BUT THAT'S WHY MY CUSTOMERS FEEL LIKE THEY NEED THE BIGGER SIGN AND WE FEEL THAT WOULD BE THE BEST FIT FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH.
WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND THE TREES AS YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE IN THE HILL, AND THE SLOPE WHERE THE TREES ARE IT ALL CAUSES PROBLEMS TO GO THROUGH.
NOW THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE EMC AND THE SIGNAGES, IT'S JUST THE MATTER IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT EXTRA 21 SQUARE FEET GO THROUGH.
I GOT REALLY DRY THROAT I APOLOGIZE.
BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY PRESENTATION ON THAT.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE DYSON IF IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IT LOOKS JAKE HAS HIS HANDS.
>> IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK.
>> WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM THAT CAME TO SPEAK?
>> THINK GOING TO REPRESENT THE CHURCH BUT IS MAINLY ME.
>> I THINK LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN.
YOU MAY ASK QUESTIONS TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.
>> FOR THE APPLICANT, SO WHEREVER [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND I'M GOING TO DO PUBLIC HEARING.
[NOISE] A MOTION OPEN OR DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> MOTION BY ED. SECOND BY SHAUN, ON FAVOR?
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO ITEM 14 TONIGHT?
>> COME ON UP. YOU FILLED OUT THE BLUE CARD. IT IS ON TOP OF IT.
[OVERLAPPING] TREMENDOUS. STILL JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN LOVE TO HEAR.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PETER HEFFLEY.
I LIVE AT 11784 MICHELA DRIVE, WHICH BACKS THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS GOING TO BE ON WHAT WOULD BE THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY IS NOT REFLECTED ON ANY OF THESE PICTURES.
MY CONCERN IS TRULY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A LARGE LIT SIGN IN MY BACKYARD, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD REALLY LIKE HAVING ONE OF THOSE. I APPRECIATE IT.
I REALLY DO WANT THE CHURCH TO DO WELL, I DON T THINK THAT THIS NECESSARILY IS MATERIAL TO THEM GETTING MORE PEOPLE, FOLKS IN THERE.
MY CHURCH DOES QUITE WELL WITHOUT A LIT SIGN.
I THINK THE POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER ABOUT PUTTING A SIGN HIGHER UP ON THE PROPERTY OFF ROGERS ROAD.
IT'S PRETTY GOOD. IT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.
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I LIVE AT 10121 ANNE DRIVE IN FRISCO AND [LAUGHTER] THIS WASN'T MY INTENTION WHEN I CAME TO THE MEETING, BUT WHEN I SAW THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THE SIGN.I'M VERY NERVOUS ABOUT CHANGING AND MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO OUR CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE JUST BECAUSE I DO THINK IT OPENS UP A CAN OF WORMS POTENTIALLY FOR OTHER BUSINESSES THEN TO USE THIS, SINCE THAT WOULD SET PRECEDENCE.
I LOVE GETTING PEOPLE INTO CHURCH.
I ALSO DON'T THINK PEOPLE JUST SPONTANEOUSLY STOPPED WHEN THEY SEE IT.
SO I DO THINK IT'S MORE OF AN INDICATOR ONCE THEY'RE ACTUALLY THERE AND HAVE USED THEIR GPS.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP IT AS IS OR TO POTENTIALLY PUT IT ON THE OTHER CORNER.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> SECOND BY BRITTANY. ALL IN FAVOR?
I THINK JAKE YOU DID HAVE A QUESTION.
GO AHEAD AND TURN OVER TO YOU.
>> ALL THE APPLICANT, LOOKING AT YOUR PICTURES, I APPRECIATE YOU RISKING YOUR LIFE ON ELDORADO [LAUGHTER] TO GO TAKE THEM.
[NOISE] WOULDN'T YOU THINK BASED UPON THE CANOPIES OF THE TREES THAT YOUR VISIBILITY WOULD ACTUALLY BE BETTER WITH A LOWER HEIGHT SIGN?
THE TREES ARE GOING TO GROW UP A LITTLE BIT TALLER AND THE BIG POINT IS TO SCALE PROPORTIONATE AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO GO.
A LOT OF THE SIZE IS GOING TO BE MASONRY, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HEIGHT.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO HELP COUNTERACT THE SLOPE.
>> THAT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT 2 FEET.
>> AROUND THERE. BUT THE CURRENT SIGN? [OVERLAPPING] WHY DON'T WE ASK? IT'LL HAVE A TWO-FOOT BASE STYLE RAISED SIT UP OFF THE GROUND.
>> INDIVIDUAL MESSAGE UNDERNEATH THE CANOPIES OF THOSE TREES WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE, A LOWER HEIGHT IN ORDER FOR VISIBILITY TO THE SIGN, AS OPPOSED TO A HIGHER HEIGHT WHICH YOU ARE PROPOSING, CORRECT?
>> LET'S SEE IF I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE CANOPY OF THE SIGN THE HIGHER?
>> THE CANOPY OF THE TREES ON THERE.
>> IF YOU INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN INTO THE CANOPIES OF THE TREES, THE SIGN WILL THEREBY ON WESTBOUND ELDORADO, THE SIGN WILL THEREBY BE INVISIBLE.
>> I THINK THERE'S A VISUAL OF THAT TOO. DIDN'T YOU HAVE ONE? OR SOMEBODY HAVE ONE IN HERE WHERE THE PROPOSE SIGN WAS THERE?
>> YEAH. I THINK WE'RE BACK TO THAT.
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND. I THINK GO BACK MAYBE TWO PICTURES. I APOLOGIZE.
>> THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY THE SMALLER THEY GO THROUGH.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN SEE IT UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY THAT MEETS THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE INTENT FOR THE INCREASED HEIGHT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S BASICALLY TO HELP KEEP THAT VISIBILITY.
>> I SAW THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AROUND IT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS THEY HAD LIKE THE DESERT GRASS AND TEXAS GRASS THERE AND THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT WILL HELP KEEP IT AND PROTECT IT UP TO GIVE IT UP A LITTLE BIT HIGH.
>> WHAT'S THE PLAN OF BUILDING A SIGN IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT?
>> ON THERE. YOU'LL STILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT, TO GO THROUGH THAT AND GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBILITY.
SOME OF IT WE MAY HAVE TO TRIM UP THE TREES A LITTLE BIT TO GO THROUGH.
>> HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T DO THAT.
>> I'LL SPEAK. I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR JOB HERE TO TELL YOU A DIFFERENT PLACE TO PUT THIS OR HOW TO DESIGN THIS.
I THINK OUR JOB HERE IS TO SEE WHETHER IT MEETS THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
IT DOESN'T MEET THREE OF THE FOUR.
I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CHURCH HAVE A BIG WELCOME SIGN, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THREE OF THE FOUR.
THEREFORE, I CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR REQUEST.
I THINK THAT THE SIZE THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE WILL HELP YOU.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU GO FORWARD WITH WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE ORDINANCE.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT?
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>> SURE. I HAVE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 15 YEARS PRIOR TO MOVING TO WHERE I LIVE NOW AND HAVE DRIVEN DOWN ELDORADO MANY A TIME, AND INCLUDING TODAY AGAIN, JUST TO SEE HOW THE TOPOGRAPHY IS MAYBE CHANGED.
IN THIS AREA BEING THAT IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM WARREN SPORTS COMPLEX AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT TOPOGRAPHY.
I REALLY SEE OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE VERY MUCH SUPPORTING STILL A VISUAL THAT IS I THINK THE WAY THAT CAN BE SEEN, BUT ALSO FITS IN WITH THE OTHER TOPOGRAPHY, MAKING THAT SIGN OUTSIDE OF THE ORDINANCE AND TRYING TO ASK FOR ANOTHER TWO FEET.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PETRUS IN THAT I THINK IT ACTUALLY LIMITS THE VIEW AS WELL AS I THINK IT ENDS UP TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT I THINK YOU-ALL ARE MAKING A REAL PRETTY SIGN.
I ALSO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO KEEP WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
>> I APOLOGIZE. BUT YOU CAN'T SPEAK UNLESS SOMEONE ASKS A QUESTION.
IF ONE OF THESE HAPPENING ASKS A QUESTION, WE'D GET BACK TO YOU.
>> I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER KELLY'S COMMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM OR ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE IT MEETS ANY OF THE CRITERIA OR THREE OUT OF THE FOUR CRITERIA THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THIS SO THAT'S WHERE I'M STUCK.
>> AGREE WITH HIS COMMENTS AS WELL.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT STAFF DID A GOOD JOB ON THE ANALYSIS AND THE PRESENTATION TOO, WAS VERY HELPFUL ON SEEING HOW THIS WOULD LOOK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE BIGGER SIGN NECESSARILY HELPS THE APPLICANT.
I LIVE IN THAT AREA DRIVEN BY AT MANY TIMES AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT HELPS AND IF IT DOESN'T MEET ANY ONE OF THE FOUR CRITERIA, IT'S HARD TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION IN THIS CASE.
>> IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO INFLUENCE AND I CAN'T VOTE.
THERE'S TWO CASES THAT STILL KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT AND THESE SIX YEARS AND ONE OF THEM IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS AT CREIGHTON, LEBANON.
WE HAD ONE WHERE WE HAD A TRANSMISSION AND THE SAME THING WITH THE TREES AND THEY WANTED A TALLER SIGN.
I DRIVE THAT ROAD REGULARLY AND SO IT DID GET A VARIANCE AND WENT UP AND IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY BAD.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE IT ACTUALLY WENT UP INTO THE TREES, ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THIS ONE.
IT LOST ITS VISIBILITY AND IT ALMOST FELT LIKE A BILLBOARD RATHER THAN ASSIGN, IT LOST ITS ELEGANCE.
I THINK YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SIGN. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CHURCH.
THE CHURCH IS A BILLBOARD OR SIGN.
[NOISE] I THINK IT HURTS AND THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE SUCH AN AMAZING SIGN ORDINANCE AND SO IF I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY VOTED, I WOULDN'T BE IN SUPPORT THIS.
>> JOHN, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK?
>> I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT CHURCH.
>> JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT SIGN I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN KNOW, BUT YES, THAT'S FINE BY ME.
> WITH THAT ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 14?
>> MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM NUMBER 14 AS RECOMMENDED IN STAFF REPORT?
>> A SECOND BY ED. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION OF 14 IS DENIED.
>> NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
[15. Public Hearing - Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (ZA22-0006)]
PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ZA22-0006 OWNERS, CITY OF FRISCO.>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME FOR STAFF TO DISCUSS THIS REQUEST WITH THE DOWNTOWN ADVISORY BOARD.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE FEBRUARY 28TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING?
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM THAT THE CITY OF FRISCO IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF FRISCO?
>> UNMOVED TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU SEE NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO TABLE AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FORGIVE ME.
>> IS IF THERE WERE 22 FEBRUARY.
>> WANTS TO WRITE IT DOWN BEFORE [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> ARE YOU THE POT OR THE KETTLE?
>> THAT WAS THE OUTTAKE WE ALREADY KNOW.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DO I HAVE A MOTION BY JAKE?
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>> SECOND BY BRITTANY. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> MOTION 15 IS TABLED TO FURTHER DATE FEBRUARY 22.
[16. Consider and act upon nominating and electing a Planning & Zoning Commissioner to serve on the Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee (CPAC).]
ITEMS 16, CONSIDER AN ACT UPON NOMINATING AND ELECTING A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER TO SERVE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SOMETIMES KNOWN AS CPAC.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I DID READ WHAT GOES INTO THIS AND JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE, IT'S LIKE A 20-MONTH COMMITMENT AND YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO MISS 25 PERCENT OF THE MEETINGS STYLE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STEVE CONE BE ELECTED.
HE SERVED IN 2015 AND TO YOUR POINT, HAD 100 PERCENT ATTENDANCE AND ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS.
I KNOW HIS ATTENTION TO DETAIL IS FABULOUS AND I THINK HE WOULD BE PERFECT ON THIS.
>> I SECOND THAT MOTION WITH ENTHUSIASM [LAUGHTER]
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BRITTANY A SECOND BY JAKE. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6-0.
IT IS A HUGE COMMITMENT AND WE APPRECIATE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A BONUS CHECK AT THE END.
>> WE'LL DOUBLE THE PARK. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU AND ED KELLY ON BOND COMMITTEE.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[17. Results of the January 17, 2023, City Council meeting.]
>> ITEM 17, RESULTS OF THE JANUARY 17, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
>> THE VOLUNTARY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THE SELF STORAGE AND INCUR STORAGE PLACE THERE FRISCO STREET THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
WE'LL HAVE THE ORDINANCE BEFORE COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY.
[18. Schedule of future discussion items.]
>> WITH THAT, WE HAVE ITEM 18 SCHEDULE A FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS.
>> HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THE 28TH.
STEPHANIE, YOU'RE LEADING THAT DISCUSSION OR WHO'S LEADING THAT ONE?
[OVERLAPPING] STEPHANIE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
GET HER INVOLVED [LAUGHTER] YOU GOT TO GET UP.
>> KNOW WHAT TIME THEY WILL START?
>> RIGHT AFTER THE P&Z MEETING.
>> COMMISSIONERS, ON JANUARY 28, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORK SESSION ON THE UPDATING OF THE LANDSCAPE ORDINATES.
AS PART OUR DEPARTMENTS FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WE LOOK AT VARIOUS ORDINANCES AND DECIDE WHETHER THEY NEED SOME UPDATING.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S CLEANUP OF ORDINANCES OR JUST THINGS THAT WE'VE NOTICED DURING OUR APPLICATION OR OF THE ORDINANCE THAT NEED TO MAYBE BE RESOLVED OR ADDRESSED.
THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE IS DUE FOR REVIEW AND SO WE AS STAFF HAVE PREPARED A LIST OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WE'LL BE PROVIDING TO YOU IN THE WORK SESSION FOR DISCUSSION.
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IS THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ONLY FOR RESIDENTS ON COMMERCIAL OR IS IT ALSO INCLUDE MEETINGS?
>> IT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL. I'M SORRY.
>> [OVERLAPPING]IT SHOULD INCLUDE MEETINGS, [OVERLAPPING]
>> HAD TOUCHES UPON JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT MAINLY IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
>> YES. I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD.
>> STEPHANIE MENTIONED, IT'S GONE BACK AND CLEANING UP SOME ITEMS, BUT ALSO TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO MAYBE COMPRESS IT AND NOT HAVE SO MUCH VERBIAGE, MORE EXHIBITS TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
>> IT'S REALLY JUST AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT MORE USER-FRIENDLY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS FOR STAFF.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT AND WE HEAR FROM ME ON THE 28TH.
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>> WE'LL TRY TO SEND IT OUT BEFORE SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO REVIEW INSTEAD OF GETTING UP THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
>> I WAS THAT THE ONLY ITEM OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WITH REGARDS TO FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS, WORKSHOPS THAT.
>> I'LL JUST REMIND YOU THAT COUNSELS HAVING THEIR ANNUAL WORK SESSION THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON, 12:00-5:00, AND THEN FRIDAY 8:00-5:00 AND THAT WILL BE HELD AT THE UNT CAMPUS.
THERE WERE AT PRESTON ROAD AND PANTHER CREEK PARKWAY.
>> AT THAT BUILDING THEY'VE BEEN BUILDING FOR HERE, SOMETHING.
>> I THINK YOU'D JUST COME IN ON THE NORTH-FACING SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE PANTHER PARKWAY AND I THINK IT'S THE SWEEP ONE-THIRTY IS WHERE?
>> IT'S THURSDAY OR NEXT THURSDAY?
IT STARTS AT 12 NOON ON THURSDAY.
>> SEVENTH WE HAVE ADVERTISED.
>> ON THE SEVENTH, IT WILL BE A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING BETWEEN PLANNING ZONING COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCIL SO BOTH OF YOU WILL BE SEATED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE P&Z BOAT, COUNSEL WILL EXIT AND PAINS.
THEY WILL HAVE THEIR DELIBERATION AND RECOMMENDATION.
THEN WHEN COUNSEL RETURNS TO THE REGULAR MEETING, THEN THEY'RE ALL TAKE ACTION ON WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED.
>> WITH THAT. I WANT TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.
THE LAST ITEM IS DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?
>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES 6-0.
>> PERFECT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.