Sep 27, 2022 Frisco - Planning and Zoning Commission

EVENING. WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FRISCO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSISTS OF FRISCO RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

TONIGHT, COMMISSIONERS. PRESENTS ARE COMMISSIONER CONE, COMMISSIONER KENDALL, COMMISSIONER COLBERG, COMMISSIONER PETRAS, COMMISSIONER MORGAN AND I'M ED KELLEY, AND I'LL SERVE AS THE CHAIRMAN THIS EVENING.

TONIGHT, REPRESENTING STAFF ARE, OF COURSE, JOHN LETTELLEIR, JONATHAN HUBBARD, STEPHANIE SCOTT SIMMS, SUZANNE PORTER, ROLANDREA RUSSELL, JENNIFER MORGAN, OUR ADMIN OVER HERE.

JOEL FITTS, GUICHE BATTEAU.

DO I GET THAT RIGHT? I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T.

GUICHE. GUICHE BATTEAU, THANK YOU.

LIKE QUICHE. JOHN GILLETTE.

ALICIA BARSTOW.

THAT I MISS ANYONE.

OK. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CITIZENS INPUT.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS TIME.

PLEASE COMPLETE A BLUE SPEAKER CARD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM PRIOR TO YOUR COMMENTS.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

OUR MEETINGS ARE RECORDED, SO TO SPEAK.

PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.

PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE OR ANY APPLICANTS PRESENT THIS EVENING TO ENSURE THERE IS ENOUGH TIME TO SPEAK.

PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS, LET'S SAY TO MAXIMUM OF 5 MINUTES UNLESS YOU MUST ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THROUGH A TRANSLATOR, IN WHICH CASE YOU MAY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.

PLEASE NOTE THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION DURING CITIZEN INPUT OR IN ANY TIMES NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA EXCEPT TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY AND RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY, OR TO INDICATE THAT THE MATTER MAY BE PLACED ON A LATER AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE FIRST MOTION WILL LOOK FOR OR COMMENTS WOULD BE ON.

CONSIDER AN ACT.

THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2022.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 13 OF 2022.

A APPROVAL FROM BRITNEY.

SECOND. SECOND FROM BRYAN.

ANY NAYS IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTIONS CARRIED. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT MINUTES TO APPROVE WOULD BE FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2022.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING.

SEPTEMBER 13 APPROVAL FROM BRIAN.

SECOND, SECOND FROM JAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.

NAYS. THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ANY MEMBER IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO WITH THE MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION.

TONIGHT WE HAVE ITEMS FOUR THROUGH 16.

ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS OR ANY THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? SEEING NONE.

I MOTION TO APPROVE A CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEMS FOUR THROUGH 16 MOVED BY JOHN.

SECOND. SECOND BY BRITNEY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY NAYS? THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE MOVING. THEY GOT POSTER. OKAY.

[17. Public Hearing – Replat & Conveyance Plat: Watermere at the Canals of Grand Park Senior Living Center, Block A, Lots 3A, 3B and 3C (RP22-0037)]

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA, AND I'D LIKE TO REVIEW THE PROCESS.

EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS PRECEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST.

THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED 10 MINUTES TO MAKE HIS OR HER PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION FOLLOWING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

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IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR POSITIONS.

PLEASE AVOID REPEATING WHAT HAS BEEN STATED BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS OTHER THAN STATING THAT YOU AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

THE TIME LIMIT IS 5 MINUTES PER SPEAKER TO ENSURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

THE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN VOTE TO LIMIT SPEAKING TIME IF A LARGE VOLUME OF PEOPLE ARE WISHING TO SPEAK.

THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE TONIGHT.

PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

REPEAT APPEARANCES TO THE PODIUM ARE NOT PERMITTED.

AFTER ALL, PERSONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASE WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED UNLESS THE CASE IS TABLED TO A FUTURE DATE.

AND THE COMMISSION INCLUDES A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A FUTURE MEETING.

AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ZONING CASES UNLESS THE COMMISSION DENIES THE CASE AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAL TO DESIGN. THE DENIAL FINAL ACTION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONTACT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF AS TO WHEN THE CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS I SAID.

FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM 17 RE PLAT AND CONVEYANCE PLAT.

WATER MERE AT THE CANALS AT GRANT PARK SENIOR LIVING CENTER BLOCK A LOTS 33 A, THREE B AND THREE C RP 22-0037. OWNERS FRISCO WL GROUP LP ACADIA GP ARE TPT LLC AND FRISCO AL GROUP LP.

THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THE PROJECT THAT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD WAS SUBMITTED ON AUGUST 29, 2022.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A 30 DAY EXTENSION, WHICH IS PERMITTED UNDER HOUSE BILL 3167 TO ALLOW FOR MORE TIME TO ADDRESS STAFF'S COMMENTS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION TABLE THIS REQUEST AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONTO THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING.

I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE BY BRYAN.

SECOND BY JAKE.

OWEN. FAVOR. NAYS.

WE'RE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? [INAUDIBLE] MOVED TO CLOSE. DO WE WANT TO KEEP THEM? KEEP THEM. KEEP IT OPEN.

SORRY. NOTHING.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK TO KEEP IT OPEN.

I THINK THE REQUEST WAS TO TABLE THIS AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CORRECT? YES. UNTIL OCTOBER 20, WE ACCEPT THE REQUEST FOR 30 DAY EXTENSION TABLE DECIDED AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO OCTOBER 25TH.

MOVE BY BRIAN. SECOND BY JAKE.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

NAYS? THAT MOTION IS CARRIED.

[18. Public Hearing - Zoning: Morissetti Patio Homes (Z22-0009)]

NUMBER 18 ON THE AGENDA ZONING MOORE CITY PATIO HOMES Z 22-0009 OWNERS LUIS E.

RAMIREZ AND VENKAT PAPUDIPPU.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? PRETTY GOOD.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. THANKS.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REQUEST TO RAISE ON THE PROPERTY SHOWN HERE FROM AGRICULTURAL TO PATIO HOME.

THE PATIO HOME DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION OF SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE APPLICANT DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE TRAILS OF WEST FRISCO EXECUTIVE BOARD PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THIS REQUEST.

THAT WAS DONE VIA ZOOM BACK IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR.

STAFF DID PARTICIPATE IN THAT MEETING WHERE THEY ASKED GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

SINCE THAT TIME, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN NOTICED.

WHEN THE PROJECT WAS PUBLIC, WHEN THE PACKET WAS PUBLISHED, STAFF HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY PROJECT INPUT FORMS. SINCE THAT TIME, STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE PROJECT INPUT FORM GENTLEMAN POSING GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, NEEDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH HIM ABOUT THE REQUEST, BUT HE DID NOT INDICATE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WHETHER HE WAS IN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT. THIS REQUEST IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL THIS EVENING AS PATIO HOME AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

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IS THE APPLICANT HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YOU NEED TO COME OUT. PLEASE.

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP? FILL OUT A BLUE SPEAKER CARD.

GIVE IT TO OUR ASSISTANT AND COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'RE NOT THE APPLICANT, CORRECT? YEAH. SO YOU NEED TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, OKAY. WELL, WAIT TILL YOU FILL THAT OUT AND WE'LL GET YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK DURING A PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY? SINCE THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE, WE'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BY STEVE SECOND, SECOND BY BRITTANY.

ALL IN FAVOR, I NAYS.

OKAY. WE'RE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.

YEAH. HI. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, OR SOME CLARIFICATION.

AND COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YEAH. ALAN ZI 109 GOLD CAMP ROAD IN FRISCO, TEXAS.

THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY SIT LITERALLY ADJACENT TO KORBEL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS GOING UP AND DOWN GO CAMP OR SOME OTHER MAN DOWN, DOWN BROOK LITERALLY CUT THROUGH THE LOT BEHIND IT.

SO I WANT TO FIND OUT, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS AND MY ASSUMPTION IS GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF YEARS, RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT ON IT, BUT I THINK I'VE SPOKE TO MR. HUBBERT. HE SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CLARIFICATION OF HOW MANY, BUT HE SAID MAYBE TWO OR THREE ON THAT LOT.

SO MY QUESTION AND MY CONCERN AS A PARENT OF A CHILD ATTENDS CORBELL ELEMENTARY IS NUMBER ONE SAFETY.

NUMBER TWO IS OBVIOUSLY THE ONGOING NOISE AND CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY MAYBE 100 FEET AWAY FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

I WOULD TELL YOU THAT MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY HAS BEEN THAT ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE DONE WITH SAFETY IN MIND.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY OPERATE IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE IT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO IS GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU SIT DOWN.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU OR YOU COME BACK UP.

IS THERE AIR EVERYTHING'S BEFORE WE KIND OF RESPOND OR ANYTHING ELSE.

QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. YEAH.

AND ALSO ANOTHER THING IS I WANT TO FIND OUT IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE MAYBE SOME SORT OF WALKWAY DEDICATED TO BECAUSE A LOT OF KIDS, IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP ON GOLD CAMP, THEY CUT ACROSS THE FIELD TO CORBELL BECAUSE THAT'S LITERALLY THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

RIGHT. INSTEAD OF WALKING ON SMOTHER, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT A HIGH TRAFFIC ROAD.

RIGHT. A LOT OF KIDS WILL WALK THROUGH OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO REQUEST SOME SORT OF PATHWAY TO BE DEDICATED TO KIDS.

THANK YOU. NO, WE TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING.

WAS MOVED BY JOHN. SECOND, SECOND BY BRITNEY, ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE. NAYS. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS? I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO JUMP IN AS MR. ALAN AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AS A RESIDENT AND YOU ARE HEARD.

AND OBVIOUSLY SAFETY IS AS COMMISSIONER KELLY WAS SAYING, AS SAFETY IS OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES TO COME IN TO MEET VERY HIGH SAFETY STANDARDS AS THEY GO THROUGH FROM A NOISE SITUATION.

THEY'RE ABLE TO OPERATE IN BUSINESS HOURS DURING THOSE BUSINESS HOURS SOUND WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, THAT'S BUILDING A ROOF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THAT DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS.

IT WON'T. WE DO HAVE RULES ABOUT NOT DOING IT LATE AT NIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING, SO IT WOULD JUST BE DURING BUSINESS HOURS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ADDRESS THE SIDEWALK.

THIS IS A MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

JUST LIKE YOUR HOME, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OR LEGAL TO JUST SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO CARVE OFF FIVE, TEN FEET AND CREATE A PATHWAY.

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BUT WE CAN'T FORCE SOMEONE TO DEDICATE THAT PROPERTY.

SO WE WOULD JUST HAVE THEM FOLLOW THE REGULAR TRAILS, DEDICATED SIDEWALKS FOR THAT MATTER.

BUT MOST DEFINITELY SAFETY IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S STEVE? COMMISSIONER PETRAS HAS HIS HAND, THOUGH.

JUMP IN THERE FIRST. WELL, I JUST THANKS, STEVE, I JUST WANT TO SAY I LIVE IN THE TRAILS AS WELL.

MY GIRLS GO TO FISHER.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, I UNDERSTAND THE SAME PASSION THAT YOU DO.

AND I THINK THE EXISTING SIDEWALK STRUCTURE WORKS FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE TRAVELING ON SMITHERMAN AND THE WALKWAY THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH PARALLEL TO CORBELL.

I LIKE THIS.

I THINK IT KIND OF SQUARES, EVERYTHING UP AND IT ADDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN AGRICULTURAL OR IT'S AG CURRENTLY IS THE LAND USE AND THIS WILL KIND OF PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIONS ON TO THE SPECIFIC LAND USE AND THEN WHATEVER.

I WOULD ASSUME THERE WILL BE A SITE PLAN THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD AT SOME POINT PRIOR TO, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'LL BE A PLAT THAT WILL COME FORWARD AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN MAKE SURE ALL THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING IS LINED UP AND APPROPRIATE.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS.

BUT AGAIN, I LIVE IN THE TRAILS, SAME AS YOU AND I HAD SOME INITIAL CONCERNS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A PRETTY CLEAN APPLICATION.

AND ONE THING TO ADD, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING A CUL DE SAC ON THIS OK, BUT THERE WILL HAVE A SIDEWALK GOING ALONG THE NORTH SOUTH STREET.

I CAN'T SAY THE NAME OF IT GOING UP TO SMITHERMAN ROAD.

SO THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK GOING UP IN THAT DIRECTION REQUIRING A SIDEWALK EASEMENT FOR PUBLIC USE.

YOU GOT TO HAVE A REASON.

A I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF THE WORD RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T EXIST HERE TO REQUIRE SUCH A ACCESS.

SO.

PEDESTRIAN? NO THE CUT THROUGH.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE LEGAL TERM FOR THAT IS, WHERE IT'S JUSTIFIED OF PLACING AN EASEMENT ON A PUBLIC USE, EASEMENT ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. TECHNICALLY, THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL CUTTING THROUGH ANYWAY.

IT'S STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTIES.

AND SO IDEALLY THEY WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC WALKWAYS AROUND THE PROPERTY ANYWAY.

SO I MEAN, SIDEWALKS NOW THERE'S LIKE THE SIDEWALK HERE, YOU KNOW, TO JOHN'S POINT, A SIDEWALK CONNECTING THERE. BUT YEAH, I MEAN THE WAY AGAIN, IT'S A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUIRED TO SUBMIT ANY PLANS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

BUT THE PRELIMINARY PLANS DO SHOW THREE LOTS ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY, THE ABILITY TO CUT THROUGH THIS TRAFFIC THIS WAY WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE THE WAY THE LOTS ARE ORIENTED AND FENCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, JONATHAN.

APPRECIATE IT. JONATHAN.

QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, AM I CORRECT THAT THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY OFF OF SMITHERMAN WOULD BE CLOSED OFF ONCE THIS IS RE ZONED CUT OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE? CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND ALL ACCESS WOULD COME FROM DOWN BROOK AND GOLD CAMP, WHICH SHOWS LIKE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN SHOW A CUL DE SAC.

JUST BEFORE YOU GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAT IN FRONT OF YOU.

YOUR REQUEST IS FOR STRAIGHT ZONING.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE'S IS BASING IT ON THAT BECAUSE PLANES CAN CHANGE.

OK NO, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT, JOHN.

SO IT IS I GUESS IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY OFF OF SOME OTHER SMITHERMAN? WOULD THEY WOULD THAT BE REQUIRED TO BE CLOSED OFF OR COULD A PLAT GET SUBMITTED THAT KEPT THAT DRIVEWAY AND MAYBE ADDED ANOTHER SOMEWHERE ELSE? LET'S SAY? VALERIE WAIT, THAT ONE WHEN WE GET A FULL SET OF PLANS, THAT'S PREMATURE AT THIS POINT.

BUT THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S THERE, THEY CAN LEGALLY USE IT TODAY, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW THEY LAY IT OUT, THAT MAY CHANGE SOME THINGS.

BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THEIR LEGAL RIGHT TO USE IT AS IS AS IT IS TODAY.

YOU'RE JUST APPROVING THAT ZONING CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, ANOTHER COMMENT ON THE OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS KNOW I PREFER THE DIRECT CONNECTIONS WHERE YOU GET A DIRECT CONNECTION.

BUT TO SPEAK TO THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS, VERY FORTUNATELY, THERE'S SEVEN HOUSES TO THE WEST OF THE SITE AND THERE'S SEVEN HOUSES TO THE SOUTH.

AND SO NEITHER DIRECTION IS THAT LONG.

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AND SO GOING SOUTH, DOWN BROOK AND TAKING AN EXISTING TRAIL OVER TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ALREADY AN EXISTING OPTION.

AND GOING AROUND TO THE SOUTHERN BEND SIDEWALK, THOUGH, ARE NOT IDEAL.

IT'S NOT BAD EITHER BASED ON THE SPEED OF THE STREET THERE.

SO FORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME OTHER GOOD OPTIONS TO STILL GET TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, EVEN IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE A FEW MORE STEPS FOR THE KIDS THAN MAYBE THEY'RE TAKING RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, STEVE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE VOTING ON A ZONING CHANGE HERE.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE.

ITEM 18 IS SUBMITTED.

MOVE BY BRIAN, SECOND BY JAKE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT MOTIONS CARRIED THE PAST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JONATHAN.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE RESULTS OF THE SEPTEMBER 20, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[19. Results of the September 20, 2022, City Council meeting.]

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? NEXT ITEM IS SCHEDULE OF FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[20. Schedule of future discussion items.]

JAKE HAD INQUIRED ABOUT LOOKING AT APPROVED PLANS.

JONATHAN HAS VISITED WITH CRYSTAL HOUSE ON OUR TEAM BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES.

I'VE ASKED WHAT DOES THAT INVOLVED? YOU ASKED THAT ONE TIME THAT WAS UP THERE.

BUT WHAT JONATHAN LEARNED IS NOW THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LOADED UP THERE.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ON CONTINUAL BASIS, WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED, HOW MUCH WORKS IS INVOLVED, AND HOW OFTEN WILL PEOPLE ACTUALLY BE USING IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT AS EARLY AS THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.

SO JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.

SO, JOHN, WHEN YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER IS WHAT ARE THE SURROUNDING CITIES AND OTHER WHAT'S I GUESS WHAT'S NORMAL A TYPICAL FOR CITIES AS FAR AS HOW MUCH APPROVED PLOT INFORMATION THEY MAKE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE? OR TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE A PRETTY LEAN ORGANIZATION AND SO I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S INVOLVED AND ALL THOSE STEPS.

AND HOW OFTEN DOES IT GET USED? BECAUSE EVERY THREE YEARS WE TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS.

WE USED TO HAVE LIKE PROBABLY 50 DIFFERENT REPORTS LISTED BECAUSE SOMEBODY REQUESTED IT, FIND OUT IT'S ONLY ONE OR TWO PEOPLE.

SO WE STOPPED PRODUCING THAT.

THAT'S TIME INTENSIVE.

THAT TAKES AWAY FROM SOMETHING ELSE.

SO I LOOK AT THINGS AS IS THERE A REAL NEED FOR THEM? SO THAT'S WHERE I'LL START FROM, BECAUSE IF WE INVEST IN THAT AND IT GETS USED VERY LITTLE, WHAT ELSE HAS TO BE SACRIFICED? APPRECIATE THAT, JOHN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THESE MOTIONS CARRY AND YOU CAN YOU MAKE A.

6:53 P.M.? YOU CUT ME OFF [INAUDIBLE] OH, YEAH.

CONGRATULATIONS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.