Dec 07, 2021 City Council

I WAS AT THE MERRY MAIN STREET EVENT AND THE TREE LIGHTING WAS JUST TREMENDOUS.

I'LL PASS THAT ALL ON.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FRISCO AND YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE INNOVATION AND PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING, YET, WE HAVE THINGS THAT STILL MAKE IT A HOME TOWN FEEL LIKE THE TREE LIGHTING AND 5K TO KICK OFF THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

IT'S JUST VERY SPECIAL.

THAT JUST SPEAKS TO THE DIVERSITY WITHIN OUR CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO BE, IN ESSENCE, THE BUILDING BLOCK OF OF A SMALL TOWN.

AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CARRY THAT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVENTS LIKE THAT TO GIVE PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, WHATEVER THE EXPOSURE MAY BE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE LIBRARY, THROUGH OURSELVES OR ANY OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES WE DO.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

TAKE US TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING REPORT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A FEW SLIDES QUICKLY.

WATER CONSUMPTION, THE ORANGE LINE IS LAST YEAR'S PER CAPITA PER DAY USAGE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

THE BLUE BARS OR THIS YEAR'S.

WE'RE SOMEWHAT TRACKING LAST YEAR, HOWEVER, IF OUR TOTAL VOLUME CONSUMPTION IS UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WAS AT THIS YEAR, AND SO WE CAN ATTRIBUTE THAT TO EITHER POPULATION GROWTH OR A DRIER SEASON.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WAYS WE'VE CONDUCTED ALMOST 5000 SPRINKLER SYSTEM CHECK UPS.

WE'VE ISSUED ALMOST 35 THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED COURTESY NOTICES TO FOLKS WHO ARE WATERING OUT OF CYCLE, AND THAT RESULTED IN ALMOST A THOUSAND VIOLATIONS.

SO OUR OUR COMPLIANCE EFFORT IS THERE AND WE'RE WORKING ON ALSO JUST THE MESSAGING ABOUT WATER USAGE.

A COUPLE OF CAPITAL PROJECTS LEGACY DRIVE, THE EXCAVATIONS, CONTINUING ON THE NORTHBOUND LANES OR PULLING OUT A LOT OF THAT OLD SOFT DIRT AND GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH SOME GOOD MATERIAL.

THERE'S A TOWN ON COUNTRY BOULEVARD, THE PAVING AS YOU APPROACH LEGACY FROM THE WEST.

THIS IS A QUIET, ROAD WIDENING PROJECT THERE AT LYNDHURST.

WE'RE ADDING A WELL.

YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN PLACE, BUT WE'VE GOT A RIGHT TURN LANE.

THIS WAS A BRIDGE WIDENING.

YOU SEE THE WORKERS DOWN ON THE LEFT PICTURE DOWN IN THE BOTTOM JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU THE SCALE SENSE OF SCALE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT HERE.

OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL TECHNICIANS OVER IN PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS WAS A CABINET KNOCKDOWN.

THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT WAS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CUSTARD AND MAIN, WHICH IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION.

IT WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, ABOUT 11:30, A TRACTOR TRAILER PLOWED OVER THAT THING.

IT SENT THE SIGNAL INTO FLASH AND OUR FOLKS REACTED, RESPONDED AND INSTALLED A NEW CABINET AND HAD IT UP AND GOING AND A COUPLE OF HOURS.

AND IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING THE PHYSICAL CABINET BACK, BUT

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RECONNECTING ALL THE WIRES THAT HAD COME LOOSE.

SO WE HAD 70 SOME ODD WIRES THAT HAD COME UNPLUGGED THAT WE HAD TO REPLACE POINT OUT OUR SWITCHING OVER TO PAVING AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.

YOU MAY SEE WORK TRAINS AROUND TOWN PERFORMING JOINT SEALING ON OUR CONCRETE PAVEMENT.

THIS IS TO KEEP OUR KEEP THE SUB GRADE DRY UNDERNEATH THAT PAVEMENT AND KEEPS GOOD PAVEMENT IN GOOD CONDITION.

THEY PULL OUT THE OLD MATERIAL AS SHOWN THERE ON THE LEFT AND THEN REFILL WITH SOME NEW TAR.

THEY'RE BASICALLY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF OUR CREEK INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE AND ALL THE VARIOUS DOTS THE GREEN OR IN DIFFERENT COLORS INDICATE A DIFFERENT CONDITION OF VARIOUS SPOTS WITHIN THE CREEKS.

THESE ARE NOT ALL PROBLEMS. THERE'S MANY OF THEM ARE PLACES THAT WE WANT TO WATCH, AND SO WE'VE GOT A GOOD VIEW OF ALL THE MAJOR CREEKS AND THE TRIBUTARIES IN THE CITY.

AND ONE THING THAT THAT DOES IS WHEN WE DO GO INTO A CREEK ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND IF WE CAN, WE'LL INSTALL SOME PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE METHODS TO SLOW EROSION.

AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THIS IS IN COTTONWOOD CREEK PARK AND THAT'S THE TEAL BRIDGE THERE LOOKING TO THE WEST, AND THOSE ARE CALLED [INAUDIBLE], AND THAT WILL PREVENT THAT BANK FROM EROSION, FROM ERODING AND HOPEFULLY FORESTALL ANY CONSTRUCTION OF A VERY EXPENSIVE RETAINING WALL IN THE FUTURE AND A DISRUPTION OF THE PARK.

SO THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PRIOR SLIDE WILL HELP US BE PREPARED FOR.

PAUL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT OTHER SLIDE JUST A SECOND ON THE CREEKS? THE ONE BEFORE THAT, I'M SORRY.

IS SOMETHING IS IN RED, IS IT MAINLY BECAUSE OF EROSION? OR ARE THERE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WOULD FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY THERE? THERE COULD BE EROSION.

THERE COULD BE A PIPE OUTFALL INTO THE CREEK THAT'S UNDERMINING.

THAT'S ABOUT TO FALL INTO THE CREEK.

THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT REQUIRE OUR ATTENTION, AND IT MAY BE THREATENING A UTILITY OR A SIDEWALK OR A STRUCTURE OF SOME KIND.

OK.

AND THIS THIS IS A SLIDE FROM AN ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

I JUST THOUGHT I'D PUT IN HERE TO YOU JUST TO SHOW YOU AN INTEGRATED PROJECT WHERE WE'RE COMBINING SANITARY SEWER PROJECT WITH CREEK EROSION PROJECT, ALONG WITH A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE EL DORADO PARKWAY AND THEN PRESTON.

AND SO WHAT DROVE A LOT OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO UPSIZE THE SANITARY SEWER RUNNING.

THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR AND IN THE PROCESS, WE'RE TAKING SOME PREVENTATIVE MEASURES WITH THE CREEK AND BUILDING A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AND THE DESIGN WILL GET STARTED ON THIS AND CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN LATE NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN FINALLY, SOME OF OUR PARKS CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT RICK MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, THE SIGN ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE THESE AROUND.

WE HAVE IT UP AT AT PEARSON FARMS PARK RIGHT NOW AND THEN ALSO AT MONARCH V PARK, WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE PLANTS AND WILDFLOWERS.

AND THE REASON FOR THE SIGN IS BECAUSE WHEN WE SEED THE GROUND, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THAT TO GET ESTABLISHED AND IT LOOKS BAD IN THE MEANTIME.

SO WE HAVE IF YOU GO AND KILL WEEDS OR PULL WEEDS, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO PULL OUT THE PLANTS THAT WE PUT IN THE GROUND.

SO IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, WE'RE JUST WANTING TO INFORM THE PUBLIC THAT SOMETHING BETTER IS COMING AND WE JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT WITH THAT.

AND FINALLY, JUST THREE INDIVIDUALS OVER IN PUBLIC WORKS.

JASON ENGLISH, NATHAN GOULET AND MARVIN REDMOND.

GEORGE AND HENRY CAME OVER AND SPENT A FEW MINUTES WITH THEM, JUST RECOGNIZING THEIR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.

THEY CHOSE NOT TO COME TO SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE, AND BUT WE WOULDN'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH GOING UNRECOGNIZED.

SO WE APPRECIATE GEORGE AND HENRY COMING OVER FOR THEM.

AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT.

WELL, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND I KNOW THIS MIGHT CATCH YOU OFF GUARD, SO IF YOU NEED TO JUST SHOOT US AN EMAIL LATER, THAT'S FINE.

DO WE KNOW WHEN THE REMAINING LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING WILL GET FINISHED UP ON [INAUDIBLE]? THE TIMING OF COMPLETION THERE IS? I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.

I DO KNOW THAT PROJECT IS CLOSE TO BEING FINISHED, SO I'LL FIND OUT FOR SURE AND SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

APPRECIATE IT.

PAUL, THANKS FOR THE UPDATE ON LEGACY.

I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK GOING ON, AND I THINK FOLKS, JUST THE FOLKS

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CERTAINLY IN THAT AREA UNDERSTOOD THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO THE REPORTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GIVING AND THE INFORMATION YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDING TO THE MEDIA, I THINK HAS HELPED PEOPLE KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE FULL SCOPE AND SCALE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW DEEP YOU'RE GOING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE BELOW GROUND THAT YOU'RE REPLACING WHILE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO I THINK THAT'S HOW A LOT OF FOLKS KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE TIME THAT IT'S TAKING US TO DO THIS AND AND WHY THERE'S SO MUCH EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AND WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DIVERT THE TRAFFIC.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME BUSINESS OWNERS OUT THERE A LITTLE DISTRESSED WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING CUSTOMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYONE HERE ON COUNCIL HAS ASSURED THEM THAT WE'RE DOING THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO BE DONE MORE THAN JUST WHAT YOU SEE BEING DONE ON THE STREETS.

YES, SIR, THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL AS IT'S BEING PULLED OUT RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S PART OF THE WORK AND THERE'S SOME UTILITY RELOCATIONS.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON SCHEDULE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, PAUL.

YES.

QUESTIONS.

THAT WILL MOVE US INTO OUR COUNCIL, SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.

[11. Council Subcommittee reports for current activities of the Legislative Committee, Governance Committee, Budget and Audit Committee, Frisco Square Management District, Dallas Regional Mobility Commission, North Central Texas Emergency Preparedness Committee, Frisco Veterans Advisory Committee, North Texas Commission, and Regional Transportation Council.]

COUNCIL, ANY SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES, EVERY MEETING SINCE LAST TIME? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE VFW AND THE VFW AUXILIARY FOR THEIR BOOTH AT THE MERRY MAIN STREET.

I ENTERED THE RAFFLE AND I WON.

THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL SURVIVAL KIT.

SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

HOLLY, WHO'S WITH THE CITY SHE WAS AT THE BOOTH WORK AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE CITY STAFF MEMBERS GIVING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND US GETTING THE CHANCE TO TAKE PART OF THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, YOUR MAYOR'S CHRISTMAS PARTY, THE FIRST FISCAL BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IS COMING UP ON DECEMBER 10TH AT SIX P.M.

[INAUDIBLE] AND OF COURSE, WE EXTEND THIS INVITATION OUT TO ALL VETERANS, NOT JUST VETERANS HERE IN THE CITY OF FRISCO, BUT ALSO WE WANT TO INVITE OUR COMMUNITY OUT AS A WAY OF CELEBRATING THE HOLIDAYS.

AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW YOUR VETERANS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR FRIENDS WHO SERVE THE COUNTRY AND IN SOME CASES CONTINUE TO SERVE BY SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

SO AGAIN, WE EXTEND THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY THAT STRIKES HERE IN FRISCO ON DECEMBER 10TH AT SIX P.M.. THANK YOU.

OTHER UPDATES? OK, THAT WILL MOVE US INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND ARE CONSIDERED NON-CONTROVERSIAL.

THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION.

MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRED, MOVING THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND SEPARATE ACTION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT.

IT MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH 35 FOR CONSIDERATION.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 12-35.

A MOTION BY BILL AND SECOND BY BRIAN ON FAVOR.

THAT MOVES TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

[LEGISLATIVE AGENDA]

THESE ITEMS MAY LEGALLY REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION, BUT COUNCIL POLICY SHOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY.

THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION.

THE CONCURRENCE OF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED TO REMOVE ANY ITEM FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION IN ACTION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT AND MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD COUNCIL.

THERE'S TWO ITEMS 36 AND 37.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS. 36 AND 37.

MOVED BY BILL, SECOND BY BRIAN.

THAT WILL MOVE US TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.

[38. Public Hearing: A request to consider possible amendments to Zoning Ordinance Section 2, Zoning Districts, Section 3, Land Uses, and Section 7, Definitions regarding the addition of the US 380 Overlay Design District, and to consider to direct Staff to prepare an Ordinance of the same. Zoning Case No. ZA21-0007. Applicant: City of Frisco. (Development Services/JH)]

38 IS A PUBLIC HEARING A REQUEST TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SECTION TWO ZONING DISTRICT, SECTION THREE LAND USES AND SECTION SEVEN DEFINITIONS REGARDING THE ADDITION OF THE US 380 OVERLAY DESIGN DISTRICT AND TO CONSIDER ITS DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE OF THE SAME ZONING CASE NUMBER ZA21-0007 APPLICANT CITY OF FRISCO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ADOPT THE US 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN STRATEGY ON AUGUST 4TH OF LAST YEAR.

SO SINCE THAT STUDY HAS BEEN APPROVED, STAFF HAS FOCUSED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STUDY THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT THOSE BEING LAND USES, SITE DESIGN, LANDSCAPING, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND BUILDING MATERIALS.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND POINT OUT THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR, STAFF SENT NOTICES TO ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE PROPOSED OVERLAY DISTRICT, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE A MEETING THIS PAST SUMMER AND STAFF WOULD BE REVIEWING THE PROPOSED DOCUMENT WITH THEM.

THAT MEETING WAS GENERALLY WELL ATTENDED BY PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE DRAFT DURING THAT MEETING OR SINCE THAT MEETING HAS TAKEN PLACE.

SO THE PROPOSED DISTRICT ITSELF IS BOUNDED BY U.S.

380 TO THE NORTH COIT ROAD TO THE EAST PGA PARKWAY AND PAVON BRANCH TO THE SOUTH

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AND VARIOUS LAND USE BOUNDARIES TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS YOU'LL SEE THERE'S AN AREA BETWEEN TEAL AND LEGACY OR CHAMPIONSHIP DRIVE AND LEGACY.

I GUESS I SHOULD SAY THAT IS THE FIELDS PROPERTY AND THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN EXCLUDED FROM THE DISTRICT, PER CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE US 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN STRATEGY.

ONE LAST THING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY.

BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, CHRIS, IS THERE IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THEY AREN'T GETTING ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT? COUNCIL ALREADY KIND OF HEARD THEIR CASE, AND? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO BEFORE WE ACTUALLY JUMP INTO THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, SO THE STANDARDS THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, SO WHERE THE DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS CONFLICT WITH THE BASE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, IT IS THE DISTRICT THAT SHALL APPLY UNLESS THE PROPERTY IS IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IN WHICH CASE THE STANDARDS OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WILL APPLY.

SO THE DISTRICT STANDARDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT DO NOT CHANGE THE BASE ZONING, BUT DO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND USES ON THE PROPERTY.

SO JUMPING INTO THOSE FIVE CATEGORIES THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

FIRST BEING LAND USE IS SO SIMILAR TO THE PRESTON ROAD OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THERE ARE USES THAT WHILE THEY MAY BE ALLOWED BY THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT, IF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, THAT USE COULD BE PROHIBITED OR HAVE ASSOCIATED CONDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, MEANING THE USE IS ALLOWED IF THEY CAN MEET THESE CERTAIN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF USES ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU.

THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IF YOU WOULD WISH BUT NOT WANT TO SPEND TIME GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, BUT I DO WANT TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES GOING THROUGH A FEW SPECIFIC USES USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IF THEY CAN MAKE CERTAIN CONDITIONAL STANDARDS.

SO I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO PROHIBIT DRIVE-THROUGHS ALONG US 380.

THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE CASE.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO PROHIBIT DRIVE THROUGHS.

THIS IS NOT TALKING JUST ABOUT DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS, BANKS, DRY CLEANERS, ANY USE THAT MAY HAVE AN ASSOCIATED DROP THROUGH.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO PROHIBIT THOSE.

WE ARE JUST PUTTING STANDARDS IN PLACE THAT MAYBE LIMIT THOSE AND PREVENT THE WHOLE CORRIDOR FROM JUST BEING LINED WITH DRIVE THROUGHS.

SO PROHIBITING THOSE AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES PUTTING STANDARDS IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS NO TWO ADJACENT DRIVE THRU USES TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER AND SO FORTH.

ALSO LOOKING AT GAS PUMPS, NOT WANTING THE GAS PUMPS OR THE GAS CANOPY TO BE THE DOMINANT FEATURE AT THE HARD CORNER.

SO WHEN LOCATED AT INTERSECTING STREETS, GAS PUMPS AND CANOPY STRUCTURES SHALL BE SHIELDED FROM VIEW FROM AT LEAST ONE STREET BY THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING IN WHICH THE FACILITY SERVES.

SO HERE'S A GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN THAT SHOWS HOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WORK.

IT COULD ALSO BE DESIGNED IN A IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, BUT THIS IS ONE WAY THAT COULD WORK.

AND THEN LASTLY, TALKING ABOUT BIG BOX RETAIL DEVELOPMENT SO EARLY ON IN THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE STUDY THAT WAS APPROVED AND THE WAY THE STUDY ITSELF WAS APPROVED, IT WAS PROPOSED THAT BIG BOX RETAIL DEVELOPMENT REQUIRE APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONG STAFF, AND WE DID NOT SEE IT NECESSARY TO PUT THAT ADDED LAYER OF REVIEW IF THE USE ITSELF CAN MEET THE STANDARDS, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN REVIEWING THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST.

SO THE STANDARDS ARE STATING THAT BIG BOX USES THEMSELVES SHALL NOT BE, SHALL NOT ABUT THE BUILD TO LINE OF A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, BUT ESSENTIALLY BE SET FURTHER BACK AND THE FACADES THEMSELVES THAT FACE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE SHOULD ADHERE TO THE BUILDING DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'LL SPEAK MORE ABOUT IN A MINUTE OR SHOULD BE CONCEALED BEHIND SMALLER BUILDINGS THAT CAN ADHERE TO THOSE STANDARDS.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS ESSENTIALLY HERE YOU HAVE A BIG BOX IN THE BACK OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN YOU HAVE SMALLER, SINGLE AND MULTI TENANT USE BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT.

EACH OF THOSE MEETING THE BUILDING'S DESIGN STANDARDS.

THIS PARTICULAR GRAPHIC HERE IS FROM AN ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IN AUSTIN, WHERE YOU CAN SEE AN HEB OR A BIG-BOX USER IN THE BACK, AND THEN YOU HAVE SMALLER, SINGLE AND MULTITENANT BUILDINGS AGAINST THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

MOVING ON TO THE SECOND POINT, SITE DEVELOPMENT SO CURRENT CITY STANDARDS

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REQUIRE THAT BUILDINGS BE CONSTRUCTED TO MEET THE MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK.

THAT'S GOING TO RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 25 TWENTY FIVE TO 60 FEET, DEPENDING ON THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT.

BUT THAT 25 TO 60 FEET OR THAT BUILDING SET BACK IS A DEFINED MINIMUM.

AND IN MANY CASES, BUILDINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED FURTHER BACK TO ACCOMMODATE LARGE PARKING FIELDS, WITH LITTLE THOUGHT GIVEN TO THE PEDESTRIAN REALM.

SO WHAT THE DISTRICT PROPOSES THAT REQUIRE BUILDINGS TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE BUILD TO LINE FOR A CERTAIN DISTANCE THE HARD CORNER? AND THEN ONCE YOU ARE OFF THE HARD CORNER, YOU CAN DO ONE OF THREE THINGS YOU CAN CONTINUE TO HOLD THE BUILD TO ON.

YOU COULD PULL THE BUILDING BACK A BIT AND ALLOW TWO ROWS OF PARKING.

OR YOU COULD PULL THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY BACK AS IT IS TODAY, WITH ALL OF THE SURFACE PARKING IN FRONT OF IT.

IN THAT THIRD SCENARIO, THOUGH, THE BUILDING WOULD NEED TO INTERACT WITH SOME SORT OF NATURAL FEATURE OR OPEN SPACE.

STAFF DOES RECOGNIZE THAT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE US 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF THE PRESTON ROAD AND THE TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY A DEFINED DIMENSION FROM THE CENTER LINE OR THE R IGHT-OF-WAY LINE.

THE US 380 DISTRICT, AS WE SHOWED A SECOND AGO WITH A BOUNDARY, IT VARIES CONSIDERABLY, SO STAFF TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN LOOKING AT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT.

STANDARDS AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT ARE 500 FEET OR LESS IN DEPTH, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT REMOVING WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR TXDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

SO THESE STANDARDS THAT I JUST MENTIONED REGARDING SITE DESIGN ARE ONLY APPLICABLE TO PROPERTIES BETWEEN CHAMPIONSHIP DRIVE AND LA CIMA BOULEVARD, SO THOSE NARROWER PROPERTIES WHICH ARE GENERALLY ON EITHER END OF THE CORRIDOR.

THIS WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE TO.

HERE'S SOME IMAGES OF THE STAR WHERE DEVELOPMENT BACKS TO WARREN.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT BACKING TO A THOROUGHFARE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

IN THIS SAME CATEGORY OF SITE DESIGN, THE PROPOSED STANDARDS THE TWO HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS SPEAK TO OPEN SPACE.

THERE IS AN EMPHASIS PLACED ON RETAINING NATURAL FEATURES AND WORKING THESE FEATURES INTO IN DEVELOPMENT.

ENSURING THAT DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT TURN ITS BACK ON NATURAL FEATURES DOES NOT TURN ITS BACK ON OPEN SPACE.

THAT THESE FEATURES ARE ACTUALLY INCORPORATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR CONNECTING THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS UP INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS NOT OVERLOOKED.

LANDSCAPING.

THE THIRD THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, SO CURRENT LANDSCAPE STANDARDS OFFER OPTIONS THAT ENCOURAGE A UNIFORM ALLY OF TREES AND EITHER A SINGLE OR DOUBLE ROW WITHIN A SMALL AREA OF GRASS.

THE DISTRICT STANDARDS THAT ARE PROPOSED ESTABLISHED STANDARDS THAT ALLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH A MORE FORMAL STYLE AT GATEWAY ZONES.

GATEWAY ZONES BEING SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINED WITHIN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT.

AND THEN ONCE YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THOSE GATEWAY ZONES, NATURALIZED GROUPINGS OF TREES THAT CLOSELY FOLLOW THE LINE, THE SIDEWALK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR A LOT FROM DEVELOPERS IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE YOUR TREE REQUIREMENT.

JUST IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN KIND OF GROUP SOME OF THOSE IN CERTAIN AREAS? SO THIS STANDARD WOULD CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE THAT.

LASTLY, MOVING INTO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND BUILDING MATERIALS, WHEN THE STUDY FIRST GOT GOING, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A PARTICULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE SHALL BE DEFINED WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

WHAT WE HEARD FROM FROM COUNCIL AND THE COMMITTEE AND ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE TIME WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE HIGH QUALITY BUILDING DESIGN IS MAINTAINED, BUT WE DON'T WANT A CERTAIN STYLE.

SO THE STANDARDS ARE NOT INTENDED TO DICTATE COMPATIBILITY THROUGH UNIFORMITY, BUT THROUGH THE USE OF VARIATIONS IN DIFFERENT BUILDING ELEMENTS.

SO MAINTAINING TRIPARTITE ARCHITECTURE, AS OUR ORDINANCE DOES TODAY.

IT ALSO SPEAKS TO BUILDING FACADES AND CREATING RHYTHMS, ENSURING BUILDING CORNERS ARE EMPHASIZED, MAKING SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF GLAZING IS PROVIDED ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

FENESTRATION MEANING WINDOWS AND DOORS ARE PROPORTIONAL AND APPROPRIATE TO THE

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BUILDING FORM.

BUILDING ENTRANCES ARE ARTICULATED IN CERTAIN AREAS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN LASTLY, MAKING SURE THAT ICONIC BUILDINGS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN A GATEWAY ZONE, WHETHER THEY SIT ON A OPEN SPACE, WHEREVER THOSE ICONIC BUILDINGS POTENTIALLY KIND OF ELEVATING THE ARCHITECTURE ON THOSE BUILDINGS.

HERE ARE SOME IMAGES.

ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN ON THE RIDE, A LITTLE BIT MORE TRADITIONAL ON THE LEFT.

THEN YOU HAVE SOME BUILDINGS FROM DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, ALL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLES.

ALL OF THESE WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, SO NOT PUSHING ANY TOWARDS A CERTAIN STYLE.

MOVING ON TO BUILDING MATERIALS.

SO CURRENT BUILDING OR CURRENT STANDARDS REQUIRE BUILDINGS TO BE CONSTRUCTED OF 100 PERCENT MASONRY WITH AN ALLOWANCE FOR 10 PERCENT SECONDARY MATERIALS.

PROPOSED DISTRICT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR BUILDING MATERIALS WHILE MAINTAINING THAT BUILDINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED OF HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS ABOUT MAYBE ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ARCHITECTURAL METAL.

A LOT OF DOING A LOT OF COOL THINGS WITH TILE THESE DAYS.

THESE STANDARDS CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT, AND DEPENDING ON WHICH FACADE IT IS, ALLOWANCES ARE MADE FOR THAT.

THE STANDARDS DON'T STOP AT THE BUILDINGS ITSELF.

THEY ARE CARRIED OVER INTO ANY STRUCTURED PARKING THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF.

SO EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS OF STRUCTURED PARKING VISIBLE FROM ANY PUBLIC STREET, PUBLIC WAY, PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE, OPEN SPACE.

ALL OF THOSE PARKING GARAGES PARKING STRUCTURES SHOULD BE DESIGNED ARCHITECTURALLY AND WITH THE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

AS I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO ABOUT THE GATEWAY ZONES THAT ARE MENTIONED.

A FEW TIMES AND THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, THERE IS AN EXHIBIT WITHIN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT THAT IDENTIFIES WHERE THOSE GATEWAY ZONES ARE.

AND THEN LASTLY, WHILE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT INTO ANY OF THE FIVE CATEGORIES THAT I SPOKE ABOUT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS ONE LAST PROPOSED PROVISION THAT SPEAKS TO BRIDGES.

THIS WOULD JUST BE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT BRIDGES, NOT TXDOT BRIDGES, NOT NTTA BRIDGES, BUT PUSHING DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS WHAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM AND NOT WHAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS HEARD THIS EARLIER IN NOVEMBER AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

PRESENTATION, JONATHAN AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSED6-0.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF THEM? SEEING NONE, MOVE TO CLOSE.

MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY SHONA.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE A FEW QUICK COMMENTS THAT THIS IS MANY YEARS IN THE MAKING WOULD START TO FINISH MORE THAN FIVE.

YES, SO OVER FIVE YEARS HAS GONE INTO THIS PROCESS TO GET TO TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE SAW PLANNING AND ZONING OR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

GET IT.

THE AWARD TODAY ONE OF ONLY THIRTY TWO CITIES TO GET AN AWARD, BUT WE'RE LARGELY RECOGNIZED FOR THE DETAIL AND PLANNING THAT THE CITY DOES FROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO OUR HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL NETWORK, TO OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES TO EVERYTHING.

AND THE END RESULT IS WHAT WE HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS.

THEY SAY WE LOVE FRISCO BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.

IT'S WELL PLANNED.

IT'S PRETTY, IT'S CLEAN.

IT JUST MAKES SENSE.

AND WHAT I'M PROUD OF THIS 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF OUR OTHER OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH EXPERIENCE AND THE FIRST VERSION, I HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH TRYING TO KIND OF DEFINE THE MARKET AS WE SEE THE MARKET EVOLVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE PRESTON ROAD OVERLAY DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS AT THE TIME IT WAS PUT IN.

EVERYONE WANTED TO DO BRICK AND AUSTIN STONE, AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS CONSIDERED AN ENHANCED BUILDING.

WELL, OVER TIME, SOME PEOPLE WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN BRICK IN AUSTIN STONE.

AND SO HOW THIS ONE IS WRITTEN TO REQUIRE THE HIGH END BUT GIVING MORE FLEXIBILITY TO DIFFERENT DESIGN GUIDELINES, I THINK IS GOING TO MAKE IT JUST MORE ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING.

I THINK THE SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE GATEWAYS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE BACK AS A CITY AND TRIED TO KIND OF FIX THAT ON OUR SOUTHERN

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BORDER, SAYING, OK, WHAT DO WE GO BACK AND DO ON LEGACY? AND WHAT DO WE GO BACK ON PRESTON TO HAVE THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND THAT SENSE OF ENTRANCE? YOU KNOW, HERE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF PUT IN IN ADVANCE AND SAYING IT'S PLANNED FOR IT'S THOUGHT ABOUT.

IT'S IT'S HOW THE BUILDINGS ORIENT ORIENT THEMSELVES TO THESE HARD CORNERS.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A SENSE OF ARRIVAL ON OUR NORTHERN BORDER.

YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING OR LEAVING FRISCO OR WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY ON 380 AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE SOUTH, YOU'RE GOING TO CLEARLY KNOW WHERE FRISCO STARTS AND STOPS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WILL BE REAL NICE.

I KNOW YOU WORKED WITH ALL THE LANDOWNERS AND THEY ULTIMATELY BECAME SUPPORTIVE.

I WAS REALLY CONCERNED OF THE BUILD TO LINE ISSUE, AND I LIKE HOW YOU SOLVE FOR THAT AS FAR AS GIVING SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE TO SOLVE FOR IT.

BUT MY FAVORITE THING WHICH CAME UP EARLIER ALREADY IS THE ATTENTION TO THE TRAILS AND THE OPEN SPACE.

AND I'VE SPOKEN MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS ABOUT MANY OF OUR LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS, HOW WE JUST MISSED THE MARK ON NOT PLANNING THE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE OPEN SPACE IN THE TRAILS FIRST.

AND THEY WERE ALWAYS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, ALWAYS HOW DO WE GO BACK AND CORRECT? AND WE LOOK AT STONE BRIAR MALL AND THE BRIDGES, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CORRECT IT FOR 20 YEARS AND WE'LL TAKE US ANOTHER 20 YEARS OF REDEVELOPMENT TO GET IT.

AND SO TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO PLAN IT IN ADVANCE, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN OUR BACK ON A DETENTION POND OR RETENTION POND AND OPEN SPACE AND THAT THE TRAIL NET.

PART OF THE EXPERIENCE, I THINK, IS GOING TO JUST ENHANCE THIS DISTRICT, IT'S GOING TO MORE THAN HAVE A FRISCO BETWEEN WHAT WE DID WITH THE PGA AND FIELDS PARKWAY, JUST ALL THE CONNECTIVITY.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A HUNDRED SQUARE MILES, THE NORTHERN PART HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF OF OUR CITY.

AND THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS WHAT THIS HALF OF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE KNOWN FOR IS THE CONNECTIVITY THAT WE'VE PUT IN.

LONG TIME IN THE MAKING, BUT JOB WELL DONE, THANK YOU.

BILL, I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE? YEAH, I THINK THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST SUBCOMMITTEES THAT I WAS ON WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL BACK IN TWENTY SIXTEEN OR TWENTY SEVENTEEN.

I THINK WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN I WAS BACK ON ON PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT IS INCREDIBLE.

I THINK WE STARTED OUT WHERE THAT WHOLE DISTRICT WAS GOING TO COME, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY EVEN FURTHER SOUTH AND PGA PARKWAY AND WE.

SHRUNK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE CRITICAL.

YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DID TAKE THOSE TWO OTHER OVERLAY DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE DONE AND TRIED TO BALANCE EVERYTHING THERE.

SO I COMMEND STAFF FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO IT.

THE TRAIL NETWORK IS, TO JEFF'S POINT, IS KEY IN THIS WHOLE AREA, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS WE WENT THROUGH THE FIELD'S DEVELOPMENT AND WORKING WITH THAT DEVELOPER AND HIS APPROVALS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THIS CONNECTIVITY.

AND I THINK THIS WILL SERVE US WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT AREA THAT DEVELOPS ALONG 380 IS GOING TO GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BEST AREAS IN THE CITY COUNCIL EITHER.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

MOVE TO APPROVE BY BILL, SECOND BY JOHN.

THAT WILL MOVE US TO ITEM 39, WHICH IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING, A REQUEST TO

[39. Public Hearing: A request to consider possible amendments to certain tracts within the City of Frisco boundary to allow for the addition of the US 380 Overlay District consisting of 211.5± acres generally located on the south side of US 380 between Doe Creek Road and Championship Drive and consisting of 875.1± acres generally located on the south side of US 380 between Legacy Drive and Coit Road, and to consider to direct Staff to prepare an Ordinance of the same. Zoning Case No. Z21-0019. Applicant: City of Frisco. (Development Services/JH)]

CONSIDER POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO CERTAIN TRACKS WITHIN THE CITY OF FRISCO BOUNDARY TO ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF THE US 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT, CONSISTING OF TWO HUNDRED AND ELEVEN POINT FIVE ACRES GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US 380 BETWEEN DOE CREEK AND CHAMPIONSHIP DRIVE, CONSISTING OF 875.1 ACRES GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US 380 BETWEEN LEGACY DRIVE AND COIT ROAD, AND TO CONSIDER TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE OF THE SAME ZONING.

CASE NUMBER Z TWO ONE ZERO ZERO ONE NINE APPLICANT CITY OF FRISCO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS FOLLOWING UP ON THE ZONING AMENDMENT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED.

THIS IS THE CASE THAT ACTUALLY PLACES THE U.S.

380 OVER DISTRICT ONTO THESE PROPERTIES.

PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY SHONA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSED 6-0.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE.

SECOND BY SHONA.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 39.

OKAY.

MOTION BY SHONA, SECOND BY BILL.

CONSIDER AN ACT UPON REQUEST TO PROPOSE MODIFICATIONS TO TABLE 4-1, AS PERMITTED

ITEM 40.

[40. Consider and act upon a request to proposed modifications to Table 4-1 as permitted by Planned Development-280. Zoned Planned Development-280. Neighborhood #3. Applicant: Kimley-Horn and Associates. (Development Services/JH)]

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BY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO AID ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER THREE APPLICANT KINLEY HORNE AND ASSOCIATES DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, THE APPLICANT BOARD.

THE FIELDS DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING TO MODIFY TABLE.

TABLE 4-1 AS PERMITTED BY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 280.

THIS IS THE TABLE THAT IDENTIFIES A MINIMUM AND OR MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SPECIFIED TYPES BY SUB DISTRICT, SO THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS SPECIFIC TO THE PRESERVE SUB DISTRICT, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF THE LARGEST LOTS, THOSE BEING THE FIELDS RESIDENTIAL 1A AND 1B LOTS BEYOND WHAT WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF FR-2A LOTS AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FR-3A LOTS.

THIS IS TO ENSURE ALL PERMISSIBLE TYPES ARE ACCOMMODATED AND TO MAKE FOR A MORE INTERESTING NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE APPLICANT.

WITH THESE CHANGES, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE PERMITTED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY CAP, WHICH FOR THE PRESERVE THE PD SPECIFIES A MAXIMUM OF TWO POINT NINE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

SHOULD THIS REQUEST BE APPROVED, IT ACTUALLY REDUCES THE DENSITY TO TWO POINT TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

SO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 280 DOES PROVIDE ALLOWANCES FOR CITY COUNCIL.

THE AUTHORITY TO MODIFY TABLE 4-1 AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ON THE REQUEST.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTED ON THIS REQUEST ON NOVEMBER 22ND AND VOTED FIVE ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

SO THIS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

JONATHAN, AND FOR THOSE THAT WERE AROUND FOR THE ZONING CASE, THAT WAS, I THINK, ONE OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL'S BIGGEST ASK WAS TO ACTUALLY HAVE MORE OF THE LARGER LOTS HERE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THEY AGREED WITH THIS.

BUT NOW WE'VE BEEN SEEING THE WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING AS A PARTNER, JUST WHAT THEY'VE DONE, NOT JUST WITH THE PRESERVE, BUT BROOKSIDE.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO START TURNING DIRT ON THIS PROJECT AND GET MOVING FORWARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, THANKFUL THAT THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF FRISCO AND HAVE LISTENED TO COUNCIL AND OUR PLANNING AND ZONING TEAM TO ACCOMMODATE OUR REQUEST AND DEDICATE MORE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO TO THE LARGER LOTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT, AS ONE COMMISSIONER SAID, KIND OF OUR ESPN BLIMP LOTS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE A PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, THOSE THAT ARE KIND OF OVERLOOKING THE COURSE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE VERY WELL DONE.

SO VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF THESE CHANGES IN THESE EFFORTS.

BUT WITH THAT, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE? MOVE TO PROVE ITEM 40.

MOVED BY BILL SECOND BY JOHN.

THAT TAKES IS TO ITEM 41, CONSIDER ACT UPON APPROVAL, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO

[41. Consider and act upon approval of the First Amendment to Second Development Agreement by and between FHQ Development Partners LP, f/k/a FHQ Holdings LP, a Delaware limited liability company, and the City of Frisco. (CMO/RP)]

SECOND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN FHQ DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS LP, FHQ DELAWARE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY IN THE CITY OF FRISCO.

WELL, LOOKING FOR A SLIDE HERE.

COOL.

THIS ITEM ALSO DEALS WITH THE FIELD'S DEVELOPMENT AND FHQ.

THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS TO PROVIDE AN AMENDMENT TO THE SECOND AGREEMENT.

WHAT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WOULD DO IS SIMPLY ALLOW FOR THE ASSIGNMENT OF SOME OF THE REIMBURSEMENT DOLLARS THAT GO INTO THE PAYMENT FOR THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ROADWAYS.

WHAT THIS DOES IS IT DOES SPECIFY A VERY SPECIFIC LENDER TO WHICH THOSE PROCEEDS CAN BE GIVEN.

ASSUMING THAT THE DEVELOPER STILL MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS STILL DEVELOPS IN A TIMELY MANNER AND MOVES FORWARD WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS SIMPLY AN ASK TO PROVIDE THAT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR THIS ASSIGNMENT, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 41.

MOVED BY BILL, SECOND BY SHONA.

WHICH WILL TAKE US TO ITEM 42, CONSIDER AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF

[42. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Frisco approving a Project Plan and Financing Plan for Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) Number Seven. (CMO/RP)]

THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF FRISCO APPROVING A PROJECT PLAN AND A FINANCING PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TERS NUMBER SEVEN.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, YOU MET EARLIER THIS EVENING AS THE TERS BOARD NUMBER SEVEN AND TOOK THOSE ACTIONS THAT WERE REQUIRED TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN, THIS CALENDAR OF REQUIRED EVENTS HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED.

YOU'RE DOWN TO THE VERY LAST ACTION ITEM REQUIRED TO DO THE FINAL APPROVAL FOR

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THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLANS FOR TERS 7.

I WILL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH WHAT THOSE PROVISIONS ENTAIL RELATED TO WHY AND HOW THIS IS BEING SET UP.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.

IT'S EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE ACRES PLUS THIS TERS SEVEN BOUNDARIES BASICALLY IS THE FIELD'S DEVELOPMENT AND WILL ALLOW FOR THE USE OF FUNDS RELATED TO CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS.

THOSE PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE THE ROADWAY.

IT IS PUBLIC UTILITIES AND ALSO IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE, IN OTHER WORDS, ENHANCEMENTS.

SO IF THERE IS PAVERS OR ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING, THOSE TYPE THINGS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL AS WELL AS TO HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ALSO TO BE ABLE TO PAY DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ROADWAYS THAT YOU SEE LISTED THERE.

FRISCO STREET, THE SOUTH SECTION OF FRISCO STREET, THE WEST PORTION OF FIELDS PARKWAY AND THE EAST PORTION OF FIELDS PARKWAY.

THE PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY A 20 TO 30 YEAR PROJECT.

THE BASE CURRENT CAPTURED VALUE IS ESTIMATED TO BE FORTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THEN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ESTIMATED VALUE AT BUILDOUT IS ESTIMATED TO BE 10.7 BILLION DOLLARS DURING THAT PERIOD.

THE FINANCING PLAN IS PROPOSING TO SET ASIDE 50 PERCENT OF THE AD VALOREM TAX TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY FUTURE DEBT SERVICE FOR OTHER ROADWAYS.

RIGHT NOW, THIS ALSO IS ESTIMATING THAT WE WILL SPEND $30 MILLION OUT FOR BOND INDEBTEDNESS TO PAY FOR THESE ROADWAYS, AND THIS WILL HELP TO PAY FOR THOSE FUNDS.

I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT $30 MILLION IS INCLUDED IN A PACKAGE THAT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING LATER TONIGHT.

WITH THAT SAID, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

IF NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 42.

OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 6-0.

[43. Consider and act upon adoption of an Amendment to Ordinance No. 2021-09-56 adopting the City of Frisco Fiscal Year 2022 Budget. (Budget Services/JH)]

THAT MOVES US TO ITEM 43, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-09-56 ADOPT FROM THE CITY OF FRISCO FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET.

IT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER.

IT IS BASED ON PRELIMINARY ACTUALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 AND INCLUDES ADJUSTMENTS TO 10 FUNDS, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND, THE UTILITY FUND AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FUND.

THE EXHIBITS AND FUND SUMMARIES ARE PROVIDED WITH THE DETAIL.

THE JUST ADJUSTMENTS INCLUDE ROLL FORWARD POS, WHICH ARE THOSE POS THAT WERE APPROVED LAST YEAR, BUT THE GOODS OR SERVICES WERE NOT RECEIVED UNTIL THIS CURRENT YEAR.

THERE'S FUNDS FOR A LAND PURCHASE THE REFUNDING OF THE CMO CONTINGENCY, WHICH WAS REDUCED TO ALLOW FOR THE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS DUE TO THE LABOR MARKET.

AND THEN THERE WERE TWO ADJUSTMENTS TO STAFF, INCLUDING THE CREATING OF THREE POSITIONS THAT WERE FUNDED DURING THE BUDGET.

BUT THE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS TIME, AS WELL AS THE MOVEMENT OF SOME.

IT POSITIONS FROM THE UTILITY FUND WILL BE REASSIGNED TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN WE'LL CHARGE A COST OF SERVICE FEE TO THE UTILITY FUND.

ALL FUNDS IN APPROPRIATIONS OR UNDER CONTINUOUS REVIEW FOR SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCIES, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE COMMUNITY, ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE ON THIS? THESE ARE ALL WE DID DISCUSS THEM AT OUR LAST BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, BUT THESE ARE ALL FAIRLY COMMON ITEMS, ESPECIALLY THE RULE FOUR POS AND JUST WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER STANDARD ADJUSTMENTS AS NEW INFORMATION IS RECEIVED.

THINK STAFF DID A GREAT JOB PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER THIS YEAR AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE WITH THE YEAR END? THANK YOU, BILL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HMM.

I LOST THE NUMBER, WHICH NUMBER? ONE 43.

A MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY BRIAN.

TAKES US TO ITEM 44, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO

[44. Consider and act upon adoption of an Amendment to Ordinance No. 2021-09-57 adopting the City of Frisco Community Development Corporation (FCDC) Fiscal Year 2022 Budget. (Budget Services/JH)]

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-09-57 ADOPTING THE CITY OF FRISCO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IN FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET.

THIS ORDINANCE WOULD AMEND THE CDC FISCAL YEAR 22, BUDGET AND INCLUDING THE REMEDIATION FUND.

SO THE AMENDMENT PROVIDES FOR ROLL FORWARD POS, AS WELL AS A NEW POSITION FOR THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE APPROPRIATIONS ARE UNDER CONTINUOUS REVIEW FOR SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCIES, AND SO THE POSITION ITSELF WON'T BE FILLED UNTIL THERE'S A PERMIT AND AN AGREEMENT WITH TCEQ AS THAT POSITION RELATES TO WILL ASSIST WITH FINANCIAL REPORTING RELATED TO THE REMEDIATION.

SO THE FUND SUMMARIES ARE PROVIDED FOR YOUR REVIEW AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY

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QUESTIONS.

MOVED BY BILL, SECOND BY BRIAN.

CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS IN MULTIPLE SERIES, DELEGATING THE AUTHORITY TO CERTAIN CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE CERTAIN DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE SALE OF THE BONDS.

TAKES US TO ITEM 45.

[45. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance authorizing the issuance of General Obligation Bonds in multiple series; delegating the authority to certain city officials to execute certain documents relating to the sale of the bonds; approving and authorizing an official statement and instruments and procedures relating to said bonds; and enacting other provisions relating to the subject. (Business Services/AC)]

APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT.

INSTRUMENTS AND PROCEDURES RELATING TO SAID BONDS AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.

SO THANK YOU.

I'M FILLING IN FOR ANITA KATHERINE TONIGHT WHO COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT SHE HAS GIVEN ME SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS FOR MY OPENING LINE.

SO I AM PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE CITY OF FRISCO HAS BEEN REAFFIRMED WITH TRIPLE A BOND RATINGS FROM BOTH MOODY'S AND S&P.

SO THOSE ARE OUR RATING AGENCIES, AND THAT AAA DOES MEAN IT'S THE HIGHEST RATING BOND AGENCIES AWARD TO AN INVESTMENT, SO IT'S CONSIDERED LOW RISK OF DEFAULT AND HIGH CREDIT WORTHINESS.

SO WITH THAT GOOD NEWS IN MIND, THIS PARAMETERS ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES THE ISSUANCE OF 88 MILLION IN TAXABLE GEOS TO BE USED FOR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT, PARKS AND CITY HALL FACILITIES.

THERE'S $12 MILLION IN TAXABLE GEOS FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND 6.8 MILLION IN REFUNDING FOR A SAVINGS TO THE CITY IN THE INTEREST COST.

THE PARAMETERS FOR THE TAX EXEMPT BONDS INCLUDE THE TRUE INTEREST COSTS SHALL NOT EXCEED TWO POINT SEVENTY FIVE IN THE MATURITY OF THE BONDS WILL NOT EXCEED FEBRUARY 2042.

THE PARAMETERS FOR THE TAXABLE GOS INCLUDE THE TRUE INTEREST COST WILL NOT EXCEED THREE POINT TWENTY FIVE AND THE FINAL MATURITY OF THE BONDS WILL NOT EXCEED FEBRUARY OF 2042.

THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISERS AND BOND COUNCIL, LAURA ALEXANDER WITH HILLTOP AND JEFF GULBIS WITH MCCALL, HAVE PROVIDED MARKET INFORMATION AND PREPARED THE ORDINANCE, AND THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE VOTER APPROVED BONDS; CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS DECIDED THAT WERE WORTHY AND VALUABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO GO FORWARD WITH? CORRECT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT IS WE'VE GOT 6.8 MILLION DOLLARS OF BONDS TO REFUND OR REFINANCING HERE.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF IS CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING AT WITH ANY OF OUR PRIOR BOND SALES TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THOSE REFINANCES TO LOWER THOSE INTEREST COSTS, WHICH HELP SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.

TO SHONA'S POINT ABOUT THE ADVERTISEMENT AND THE ELECTION, WHEN WE PUT THESE OUT FOR ELECTION, WE ADVERTISE THEM WITH AN EXPECTED TAX RATE.

SHOULD WE SELL THE BONDS? DO YOU KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE WOULD BE ON THE SCALE AS FAR AS WHAT WE TOLD THE VOTERS THE EXPECTED TAX RATE WOULD BE AT THIS POINT? OH, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT, BUT I'M ACTUALLY NO, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

SO I WILL ACCEPT THAT AS AN ANSWER.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOVE TO PROVE ITEM 45.

ALL RIGHT.

A MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY BRIAN.

TAKES US TO ITEM 46, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE

[46. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance authorizing the issuance of Certificates of Obligation in multiple series; delegating the authority to certain city officials to execute certain documents relating to the sale of the certificates; approving and authorizing an official statement and instruments and procedures relating to said certificates; and enacting other provisions relating to the subject. (Business Services/AC)]

AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION IN MULTIPLE SERIES.

DELEGATING THE AUTHORITY TO CERTAIN CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE CERTAIN DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE SALE OF THE CERTIFICATES.

APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT IN INSTRUMENTS AND PROCEDURES RELATING TO SAID CERTIFICATES AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THIS SUBJECT.

SO THIS PARAMETERS ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES ISSUANCE OF 14.75 MILLION DOLLARS IN TAX EXEMPTS COS.

THEY'LL BE USED FOR WATER, SEWER AND REUSE PROJECTS.

THE PARAMETERS ARE SET FOR A TRUE INTEREST COST NOT TO EXCEED 2.75, WITH FINAL MATURITY IN FEBRUARY OF 2042.

IN ADDITION, THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES 39.72 MILLION DOLLARS IN TAXABLE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BONDS TO BE USED FOR OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS FOR ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PARKING GARAGE AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND THE BASEBALL FACILITY.

SO THE PARAMETERS ARE SET FOR AN INTEREST NOT TO EXCEED THREE POINT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT AND FINAL MATURITY NOT TO EXCEED FEBRUARY 2042.

WE HAVE MET ALL THE PUBLISHING REQUIREMENTS AND THERE'S A COMPETITIVE BID.

THESE BONDS ARE AGAIN AFFIRMED WITH OUR TRIPLE-A RATING.

OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND BOND COUNCIL ARE HERE AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK GOING BACK TO THE OTHER ONE, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE SELF-FUNDED BONDS AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A REVENUE SOURCE THAT IS FUNDING THEM EITHER IN WATER AND SEWER RATES OR IN THE [INAUDIBLE].

SO THEY ARE NOT THINGS THAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD ADD TO THE TAX AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESIDENTS.

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CORRECT.

SECOND BY BRIAN, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM FORTY SEVEN CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF A

[47. Consider and act upon adoption of a Resolution authorizing the issuance of Frisco Community Development Corporation Sales Tax Revenue Refunding Bonds; establishing procedures and delegating authority for the sale and delivery of the bonds; providing for the security for and payment of said bonds; providing an effective date; and enacting other provisions relating to the subject. (Business Services/AC)]

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF FRISCO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SALES TAX REVENUE, REFUNDING BONDS, ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES AND DELEGATING AUTHORITY FOR THE SALE AND DELIVERY OF THE BONDS.

PROVIDING FOR THE SECURITY FOR AND PAYMENT OF SAID BONDS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE IN ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.

THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE ISSUANCE OF THE CDC REFUNDING BONDS.

IT'S NOT TO EXCEED SIXTEEN POINT TWO THREE MILLION FOR THE 2012 SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS.

FOR A SAVINGS TO THE CDC INTEREST COST ESTIMATED AT OVER ONE POINT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION OVER THE REMAINING LIFE OF THE BONDS.

THE TRUE INTEREST SHALL NOT EXCEED 3.05 PERCENT.

THE SALE IS PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN JANUARY OF 2022.

THIS RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED BY THE CDC BOARD IN NOVEMBER, AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISERS AND BOND COUNCIL ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FORTY SEVEN.

A MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY DAN ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM FORTY EIGHT CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF A

[48. Consider and act upon adoption of a Resolution authorizing the issuance of Frisco Economic Development Corporation Sales Tax Revenue Refunding Bonds; establishing procedures and delegating authority for the sale and delivery of the bonds; providing for the security for and payment of said bonds; providing an effective date; and enacting other provisions relating to the subject. (Business Services/AC)]

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF FRISCO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORP.

SALES TAX REVENUE, REFUNDING BONDS, ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES AND DELEGATING AUTHORITY FOR THE SALE AND DELIVERY OF THE BONDS PROVIDING FOR THE SECURITY FOR AND PAYMENT OF SAID BONDS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.

THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE ISSUANCE OF THE EDC REFUNDING BONDS.

IT'S THE PARAMETERS NOT TO EXCEED SEVENTEEN POINT ONE EIGHT FIVE MILLION OF THE 2012 SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS FOR A SAVINGS TO THE EDC INTEREST COST ESTIMATED AT ONE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE FINAL LIFE OF THE BONDS.

THE TRUE INTEREST COST SHALL NOT EXCEED 3.05 PERCENT.

THE SALE IS PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETE IN JANUARY OF 2022.

THE RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED BY THE EDC BOARD IN NOVEMBER AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISERS AND BOND COUNCIL ARE AVAILABLE.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FORTY EIGHT.

SECOND BY BILL ALL IN FAVOR.

BY DAN.

THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM FORTY NINE.

[49. Consider and act upon award of Request for Proposal #1901-031 Onsite or Near-Site Health Clinic to Premise Health and authorizing the City Manager to execute an Agreement for these services. Tabled 11/16/2021. (Human Resources/DF)]

CONSIDER AN ACT UPON AWARD OF REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL NUMBER 1901-031 ON SITE OR NEAR SITE HEALTH CLINIC TO PREMISE HEALTH AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR THESE SERVICES.

THIS WAS TABLED ON NOVEMBER 16, 2021.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL THANK YOU VERY MUCH SINCE WE MET IN NOVEMBER.

WE'VE ACQUIRED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, SO I DO HAVE A FEW SLIDES I'D LIKE TO GO OVER AND THEN I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO IS WE DID AN EMPLOYEE SURVEY.

WE HAD VERY GOOD RESPONSE.

AT FIFTY FIVE PERCENT OF OUR FULL TIME BENEFIT ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES, ABOUT SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR, WE DID PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND ON THIS SURVEY TO GIVE A LITTLE FRAMEWORK TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

OUTLINING THAT VIRTUAL DOCTOR VISITS WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

THE COST WOULD BE AT ZERO COST.

IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DEPENDENTS THAT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE INSURANCE, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO USE THE CLINIC.

SO IS PART OF THIS SURVEY, WE HAD EIGHTY NINE POINT SEVEN FIVE PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE VERY LIKELY OR SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO USE THE EMPLOYEE CLINIC FOR URGENT CARE NEEDS.

WE HAD SIXTY FOUR POINT FIVE PERCENT OF OUR RESPONDENTS INDICATE THAT THEY ARE VERY LIKELY OR SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO ALSO USE THE CLINIC AS THEIR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN.

WITH BOTH THE ONSITE AND THE VIRTUAL VISITS AVAILABLE, WE WANTED TO ALSO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES DEPENDENTS WOULD USE IT.

AND IT WAS INDICATED THAT ABOUT SEVENTY TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT WERE VERY LIKELY OR SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO USE EITHER VIRTUAL OR IN-PERSON VISITS FOR DEPENDENT CARE CLINIC NEEDS.

AND, OF COURSE, OUR EMPLOYEES OVERWHELMINGLY FELT THAT THIS WAS AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE BENEFIT THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THEM AT NINETY ONE POINT NINE FIVE PERCENT.

THEY ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF OUR EMPLOYEES WAIT FOR GREATER THAN A DAY BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET INTO THEIR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN IF THEY'RE SICK.

AND 40 PERCENT OF OUR EMPLOYEES, IF THEY ARE SICK, END UP HAVING TO USE AN URGENT CARE FACILITY, CONVENIENCE CARE FACILITY, VIRTUAL DOCTOR OR E.R.

VISITS, WHICH OF COURSE RESULT IN INCONSISTENT CARE AND MORE EXPENSIVE MEDICAL

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CARE OF WHICH THE CITY PAYS FOR AS A SELF-INSURED MEDICAL PROVIDER.

THE FIRE ASSOCIATION ALSO INDEPENDENTLY DID A SURVEY, AND THEY HAD VERY GOOD RESPONSE, ALMOST, I THINK ABOUT 98 PERCENT OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP RESPONDED, WITH OVER NINETY ONE PERCENT INDICATING THAT THEY WOULD SEE THE CLINIC AS A GOOD INVESTMENT BY THE CITY AND ANOTHER 86 PERCENT INDICATING THAT THEY WOULD USE THE HEALTH CLINIC.

WE ALSO WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE HOW MANY OTHER CITIES AND ALSO DENTON COUNTY HAVE MUNICIPAL CLINICS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

SO THIS MAP HERE, ALL THE PURPLE AREAS SHOW ALL THE OTHER CITIES IN THE METROPLEX THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT ALSO HAVE EMPLOYEE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CLINICS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S VERY COMMON FOR THIS TO BE PART OF THE BENEFITS OF AN EMPLOYEE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LARGER SELF-INSURED PLANS.

AND THEN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY TO REALLY ILLUSTRATE HOW MUCH WE'VE WORKED TO INVOLVE EMPLOYEES AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS, THIS RFP PROCESS HAS BEEN ALMOST THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING.

DANIEL FORD REMINDS ME THAT IT'S THE LONGEST RFP THAT HE'S WORKED ON IN A WHILE.

WE WORKED ON THIS WITH A COMMITTEE INVOLVING REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, PURCHASING, FINANCE, HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THESE EMPLOYEES WERE INVOLVED IN ALL THE SELECTION CRITERIA SITE VISITS, REFERENCE CHECKING, INTERVIEWS THAT WE DID WITH OTHER CITIES.

THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE PROCESS DOWN TO AND INCLUDING THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION.

WE CONDUCTED TWO CITY WIDE EMPLOYEE SURVEYS, ONE IN DECEMBER OF 2019, OF WHICH WE HAD FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EMPLOYEES RESPOND.

AND IN THAT SURVEY, SEVENTY ONE POINT TWO EIGHT INDICATED THAT THEY WERE VERY LIKELY OR SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO USE AN ON SITE CLINIC.

IN THAT SURVEY, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE VAGUE WITH OUR DATA BECAUSE WE HAD NOT COMPLETELY FRAMED HOW THE CLINIC WOULD WORK.

HOURS OF OPERATION.

AND SO IT WAS TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR THE RECEPTION OF A CLINIC, AND WE'VE GOT VERY GOOD RESPONSE ON THAT.

AND THEN JUST RECENTLY, IN NOVEMBER, WE CONDUCTED THE OTHER SURVEY THAT I JUST WENT THROUGH WHERE WE HAD SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR EMPLOYEES RESPOND.

AND THEN, AS I INDICATED, THE FIRE ASSOCIATION ALSO DID A SURVEY AND THEY HAD 86 PERCENT THAT THEY INDICATE THAT THAT WOULD USE THE HEALTH CLINIC BETWEEN AUGUST OF 2019 AND NOVEMBER OF 2021.

WE'VE HAD 11 DIFFERENT PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE THE CLINIC HAS EITHER BEEN MENTIONED OR DISCUSSED.

AND SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS CLINIC OVER THE LAST ALMOST THREE YEARS.

JUST A FEW OTHER POINTS THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I DID DO SOME SURVEYS AND PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION ON UTILIZATION FROM OTHER CLINICS IN THE METROPLEX THAT WERE ALSO ILLUSTRATED ON THE MAP.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE OTHER CITIES ILLUSTRATE A HIGH UTILIZATION BY THEIR EMPLOYEES AND DEPENDENTS OF THE CLINICS, GENERALLY BETWEEN 60 AND 90 PERCENT.

THE UTILIZATION PERCENTAGES USED BY THE CONSULTANTS AND THE VENDOR IN BOTH COSTING AND STAFFING ASSUMED A VERY CONSERVATIVE A THIRTY FIVE TO 40 PERCENT UTILIZATION.

AND SO WE FEEL THAT WE WILL MEET OR EXCEED THE NUMBERS THAT WERE USED FOR COSTING AND STAFFING DETERMINATIONS FOR THE CLINIC, ALSO.

JUST TO CLARIFY ON FUNDING FOR THE CLINIC, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UPFRONT FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE TO GET THE CLINIC STARTED.

THE $1 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE FY WAS IN THE TWENTY ONE BUDGET, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE TWENTY TWO BUDGET IS FROM OUR HEALTH RESERVE PLAN.

IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE.

THIS IS MONEY THAT IS IN OUR HEALTH RESERVE ACCOUNT FROM SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE ACQUIRED OVER OUR ASTUTE MANAGEMENT OF OUR BENEFITS PLAN.

AND ADDITIONALLY, THE COST OF THE CLINIC MOVING FORWARD ARE COSTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR ANYWAY.

IF YOU REFER BACK TO THE PRO FORMA THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SET UP COSTS AND IMPLEMENTATION COSTS ASIDE BY EVEN YEAR TWO, THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD SPEND PAYING INSURANCE CLAIMS AS A SELF-INSURED INSURANCE PROVIDER AND MONEY

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THAT WE ALREADY BUDGET FOR OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NEEDS IS ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THE COST IS FOR THE SERVICES PAID FOR TO HAVE THE VENDOR RUN THE CLINIC AND THE LEASE.

AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU GET INTO YEARS THREE AND FOUR, WE'RE ACTUALLY HOPEFULLY SAVING MONEY.

AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS ON INSURANCE COSTS THAT WE FEEL THAT WE'RE MOVING FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THERE IS INFLATION AND HIGHER COSTS INTO A MORE COST CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT WITH STILL VERY QUALITY CARE.

AND SO EVEN WITH THE LEASE SPACE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR AND THE FEE THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR TO THE VENDOR, WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THOSE COSTS ANYWAY.

WE PAY OUR INSURANCE COSTS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO USE OUR INSURANCE AND WE PAY FOR THE OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH COSTS FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE PHYSICALS, DRUG TESTING, FLU SHOTS AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE PART OF WHAT THIS CLINIC WOULD OPERATE.

SO EVEN WITHOUT THE CLINIC, WE WE PAY FOR THESE COSTS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS.

ALONG THOSE LINES, I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THOSE.

STARTING OFF, WE HAVE MR. MATTHEW SAPP, IF YOU'D COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

AFTER THAT, WE HAVE WENDY TAYLOR, MELINDA PRESTON AND SHANNON AYRES.

IF YOU WANT TO LINE UP.

AND IF ANYONE NOT CALLED WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU CAN GET A BLUE CARD FROM OUR CITY SECRETARY.

MATTHEW SAPP, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF FRISCO FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION SIX SEVEN THREE FIVE [INAUDIBLE] WAY FRISCO, TEXAS.

SO FIRST OFF, AS AN EMPLOYEE, MATTHEW SAPP, I WOULD USE THIS CLINIC.

I LIVE IN THE COLONY.

IT'S EASY FOR ME TO GET THERE.

IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER THAN WHAT MY STATION WOULD BE.

THAT'S AS AN EMPLOYEE.

A LITTLE CONTEXT FROM THE ASSOCIATION PERSPECTIVE.

WE GAUGED OUR MEMBERS AND WE GAUGED THEM ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO ALSO ON WHETHER THEY WOULD USE THIS.

THE CITY HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO MAKING THIS CLINIC WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE, AND OUR MEMBERS WENT FROM A LITTLE BIT OF HESITANCY TO USE THIS TO THEIR WANTING IT NOW.

THEY'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, EIGHTY SIX PERCENT WOULD USE THIS.

COUNCILMAN OR COUNCILWOMAN HUFFMAN, YOU HAD SAID THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT USING THE FACILITY THAT YOU WORK AT.

ALSO, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF US THAT USE BOB AS OUR PCP, HUNDREDS THAT WE GO THROUGH THERE FOR OUR PHYSICAL, FOR POLICE AND FIRE, AND THEN WE USE HIM AS OUR PCP.

SO TO THINK THAT WE WOULDN'T USE THIS PLACE AS OUR PCP, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO.

OUR HOPE IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON OUR PHYSICALS ALREADY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING, CHIEF PILAND'S LOOKING RIGHT NOW INTO INCREASING WHAT OUR PHYSICAL STANDARDS CAN BE TO MEET MORE OF A NATIONAL STANDARD WITH THE NFPA AND WITH THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT DR.

BOB, WITH FREEDOM TOTAL WELLNESS IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE] STUDIES.

BUT IF WE HAVE IT HERE, WE COULD, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A PHYSICIAN ON SITE.

SO THIS HAS GOT A LOT OF BENEFITS TO US, NOT JUST FROM THE ABILITY TO USE IT AS A PCP, AS AN URGENT CARE IF WE NEEDED IT FOR FAMILIES NEEDED, BUT STRICTLY FROM JUST A FIREFIGHTER PROTECTION ASPECT FOR OUR PHYSICALS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD THING.

WORKER'S COMP I HAVE STOOD UP HERE HOW MANY TIMES AND ARGUED ABOUT WORKER'S COMP.

A BASE FIREFIGHTER MAKES SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE DOLLARS A MONTH BASED TAX, YOU KNOW, TAX CUT IN HALF 10 SHIFTS OF WHAT WE WORK.

SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO OR SIX HUNDRED SEVENTY TWO DOLLARS, RIGHT? IF I GET BACK ONE DAY FASTER, ONE DAY FASTER AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING SOMEBODY TO RIDE THAT SEAT, THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS SAVED.

THAT SOFT DOLLAR COST IS NOT IN THIS CORRECT.

THAT'S A BASE FIREFIGHTER.

THAT'S NOT A TOP DOWN FIREFIGHTER OR A LIEUTENANT, A CAPTAIN, A BATTALION CHIEF.

SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE SOFT DOLLAR COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS THAT YOU CAN'T QUANTIFY.

BUT THAT'S ALL I GOT.

I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE IN FAVOR OF IT AND IMMA GO BACK.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WENDY TAYLOR, OK, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH MELINDA PRESTON NEXT.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MELINDA PRESTON, ONE THREE THREE SEVEN ZERO BAYFIELD DRIVE FRISCO.

HERE'S WHAT I SEE WITH THIS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL WITH A DOCTOR FROM WHAT I HAVE RESEARCHED.

THIS CLINIC WILL BE OPEN EIGHT TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

IT'LL BE CLOSED AT LUNCH.

ONE DOCTOR ON STAFF, IS THIS WHAT I'M GETTING? HOW MANY DOCTORS WILL BE ON STAFF?

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LOOKING THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES PAP SMEARS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE CLINIC AT THE OFFICE TO GET MY PAP SMEAR DONE.

I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SPENDING $6 MILLION WHENEVER YOU'RE NOT GIVING PEOPLE FREEDOM TO GO TO THEIR DOCTOR.

THERE'S SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT HAVING A PATIENT DOCTOR RELATIONSHIP HAVING, I DON'T KNOW, I LOVE MY DOCTOR.

HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE A DOCTOR THAT YOU GO TO? YOU ABSOLUTELY LOVE.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.

THE ONE THING THAT I SEE HERE IS IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THE EMPLOYEES MONEY, WANT TO DO SOMETHING WONDERFUL FOR THE EMPLOYEES, PAY THEIR DEDUCTIBLES.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A PHYSICALS.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PAY $6 MILLION FOR PHYSICALS.

HAVE A DOCTOR COME OUT AND DO THE PHYSICALS THAT WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ANYONE WHO NEEDS A PHYSICAL BUT TO HAVE A CLINIC, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON SITE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE IT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON SITE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S FIRE STATIONS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ONE CLOSE TO EVERYONE? AND THERE'S A DOCTOR'S OFFICE ON EVERY SINGLE CORNER, A CLINIC ON EVERY SINGLE CORNER IN FRISCO.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF HAVING ANOTHER DOCTOR'S OFFICE FOR THE EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO GO TO.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

BUT THANKS FOR LISTENING.

JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT CHANGING ANY LEVEL OF CARE OR SERVICE.

IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS A DOCTOR THAT THEY LOVE, THEY CAN STILL CHOOSE TO GO TO THAT DOCTOR IF THEY LIKE TO GO TO THE URGENT CARE STRAIGHT ON THE CORNER.

THEY CAN STILL DO THAT, SO ALL THE HEALTH CARE BENEFITS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE TODAY WOULD NOT GO AWAY.

THOSE WOULD ALL STILL BE THERE.

THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF CARE THAT IS PROVIDED TO OUR EMPLOYEES IN ADDITIONAL SERVICE TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

IS THAT A FAIR DESCRIPTION? RIGHT.

IT'S AN ADDED BENEFIT LEVEL AT NO COST FOR THE EMPLOYEES, AND OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD STILL HAVE THE CURRENT CHOICE THAT THEY HAVE TODAY.

AN IMPORTANT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT, I THINK, COMMENT AND CONCERN OF ALL COUNCIL IS WHEN YOU JUST HAVE ONE DOCTOR, A PHYSICIAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE A SPECIALIST AT EVERYTHING, RIGHT? AND SO THEIR JOB IS TO OWN THE LEVEL OF CARE SO THEY KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO REFER OUT TO A SPECIALIST.

AND UNLIKE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF OWNING THAT.

MAYBE EXPLAIN THAT.

I THINK THAT WAS REALLY EYE-OPENING FOR ME WHEN I HEARD WHEN I HEARD THAT.

YES, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THE THE FEATURES OR THE THE BIG BENEFITS THAT A VENDOR LIKE THIS WORKS WITH THAT SPECIALIZES IN ONSITE CLINICS FOR EMPLOYERS, FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, IS REALLY HELPING TO SHEPHERD THE EMPLOYEES TO THE BEST CARE.

THEY MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE MAXIMIZING ALL THE DIFFERENT BENEFITS THE THE EMPLOYER PROVIDES FOR ITS EMPLOYEES.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR DOCTOR, YOUR DOCTOR JUST TAKES CARE OF YOU UNDER THE REGULAR INSURANCE.

BUT A CLINIC IS GOING TO BE AWARE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF BENEFITS THAT WE PROVIDE, NOT JUST MEDICAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TO COORDINATE THOSE AND THEN SHEPHERD THEM ON TO ANY OTHER SPECIALISTS.

MAKE SURE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WITHIN THE NETWORK AND PROVIDE THE HIGH QUALITY CARE THAT THEY WANT TO.

AND THEN THERE'S THAT CONTINUITY OF CARE BACK TO THE CLINIC FOR THAT PREVENTIVE CARE.

IF THE EMPLOYEE CHOOSES THAT.

YEAH.

JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD MANY OF THOSE SAME QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, AND SO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THOSE NEXT.

WENDY TAYLOR, IF YOU WANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

WENDY TAYLOR, FIFTY SEVEN TWENTY FRISCO SQUARE BOULEVARD APARTMENT 2001 HERE, RIGHT HERE IN FRISCO.

AND MY ONLY CONCERN IS I CAME FROM MARYLAND AND I WAS FROM THE COLUMBIA, MARYLAND AREA AND WE DID HAVE A CLINIC AND INITIALLY IT STARTED OUT PRETTY GOOD AND THEN THE CARE WENT DOWN, COSTS WENT UP AND THEY ENDED UP DOING AWAY WITH IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY'VE DONE THIS TO SEE IF IT WAS COST EFFECTIVE.

SO THAT'S MY QUESTION.

AND LAST, WE HAVE SHANNON AYRES, OK, OK.

ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE FEEDBACK I WANTED.

I GUESS.

SHARE A FEW INTRODUCTORY REMARKS.

I'M GLAD WE TABLED THIS ITEM.

I'LL BE PERFECTLY FRANK AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE.

INSURANCE IS NOT MY EXPERTISE.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE WORKED IN THIS FIELD OR WORK IN MEDICINE.

IT MAKES MY HEADS, YOU KNOW, HAD WE VOTED ON THIS LAST WEEK, I LIKELY WOULD HAVE VOTED NO.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ IT ON THE SURFACE

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OF A GOVERNMENT ENTITY TRYING TO GET INTO HEALTH CARE OR TRY TO GET INTO MEDICINE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GOVERNMENT'S ROLE.

AND YOU KNOW, I WAS ESSENTIALLY THE HATCHET MAN.

I THINK AS MAYOR WHEN I CAME IN AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THESE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.

WE'RE GOING TO TRIM OUR EDC.

WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF TRYING TO BE A PROPERTY MANAGER.

WE'RE GOING TO SELL OUR [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING.

WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THESE.

WE HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN THESE TYPES OF FIELDS AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON CORE PRIORITIES.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ON THE SURFACE, I COULD SEE WHY SOME OF OUR CITIZENS THAT SHARE THAT SAME BELIEF WOULD REACT THAT WAY.

BUT WHEN YOU REALLY START KIND OF DIGGING IN AND DRILLING IN, THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS.

WE ARE HIRING A THIRD PARTY PROVIDER.

WE ARE ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS, JUST LIKE WE DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF FRISCO WHEN WE USE THIRD PARTY THIRD PARTY SERVICES.

AND THE BIG THING, IN MY OPINION, THAT HAS BEEN LOST IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS CLINIC AND OUR DECISION AS A CITY TO BE SELF-INSURED, AND THERE'S NOT BEEN ENOUGH ATTENTION PUT TO THAT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY AFTER THE MEETING LAST WEEK, I THINK IT WAS THE NEXT DAY, THE DAY AFTER I GOT TO SPEAK TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASS.

AND IT'S A QUESTION I GOT, WHICH IS I SAID, WHAT IS THE HARDEST PART OF YOUR JOB? AND I THOUGHT BACK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I SAID, WE ARE HIRED TO MAKE REALLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS WHEN WE HAVE UNCERTAIN OUTCOMES.

AND THAT IS OUR JOB AS WE MAKE DECISIONS WITH UNCERTAIN OUTCOMES.

IF OUR OUTCOMES, IF OUTCOMES WERE DEFINED AND EASY, IT WOULD BE ANYONE COULD SIT UP HERE.

THIS IN MY MIND, AFTER DRILLING IN THIS IS NOT A HARD DECISION.

QUITE FRANKLY, WE'VE MADE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

THE DECISION TO BE SELF-INSURED WAS ONE OF THE RISKIER DECISIONS WE'VE MADE AS A CITY.

THE LEVEL OF ADDITIONAL RISK YOU COULD TAKE ON IT JUST TAKES ONE MAJOR CLAIM, AND IT CAN CHANGE YOUR BUDGET FOR A YEAR.

AND THAT DECISION HAS SAVED OUR TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MAYBE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AT LEAST.

AND WE'RE USING THAT TO KIND OF ROLL THAT INTO FUNDING THIS PROGRAM.

AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT GEORGE MADE LAST MEETING IS THIS IS A DECISION WE SHOULD HAVE MADE YEARS AGO.

IT'S SHAME ON US.

WE HAVEN'T DONE IT SOONER BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO KEEP GROWING AS A CITY.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIFTEEN HUNDRED EMPLOYEES.

I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE ESTIMATED ON BUILDOUT.

WE'LL HAVE TWENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES, SO AN ADDITIONAL 50 PERCENT WILL BE ADDED TO IT.

AND OUR INSURANCE COSTS ALREADY ARE $20 MILLION.

WE WOULD NOT BE DOING OUR JOBS IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING OUT FIVE, 10, 15, 20 YEARS AND SAYING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SAVE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO OUR RESIDENTS ON PERPETUITY BASIS AND HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE NOT GOING DOWN.

THOSE CLAIMS ARE NOT GOING DOWN.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT I LOOKED AT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE I HEARD FROM COUNCIL WAS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AS A BUSINESS, YOU HAVE THIS HUGE UPFRONT COST AND THERE'S NO CERTAINTY OF PAYBACK PERIOD.

BUT I THINK PUTTING THAT SPREADSHEET DID THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION AND MAJOR DISSERVICE.

AS MR. SAPP SAID, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT DIDN'T GO INTO THAT ANALYSIS WHEN WE STARTED DRILLING INTO IT.

YOU KNOW, IF MOST PEOPLE, IF THEY GO TO THEIR PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR, THEY CAN'T GET IN FOR TWO TO THREE DAYS WHEN THEY DO.

USUALLY YOU HAVE TO PLAN TO TAKE AT LEAST A HALF DAY OFF OF WORK, IF NOT A FULL DAY OFF OF WORK TO GO HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONE OF TWO THINGS TYPICALLY HAPPENS.

ONE, THE EMPLOYEE DECIDES THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT.

AND THAT LEADS TO A LONGER TERM, HIGHER CONSEQUENCE OR HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR STUDIES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE HIGHER PERCENTAGES, WHICH YOU TOLD US YOU SHARED WITH US OF HIGHER CLAIM EVENTS.

AND SO BEING A SELF-INSURED CITY, WE NEED TO BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AND INVEST EVERYTHING WE CAN IN REDUCING THOSE HIGHER CLAIM EVENTS, MAKING SURE OUR EMPLOYEES, WHEN THEY THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM, THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY GOING TO SEEK THE MEDICAL ATTENTION THAT THEY NEED.

AND THERE ARE SOMEONE THERE THAT IS VESTED IN THEIR HEALTH AND WELL-BEING AND NOT BURNING AND TURNING THEM OR TRYING TO JUST GET INSURANCE CLAIMS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO.

THEIR WHOLE JOB AND RESPONSIBILITY IS TO TAKE AN EMPLOYEE FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE WITH THEIR WHOLE LEVEL OF CARE.

GET THEM IN THE HANDS OF THE RIGHT SPECIALISTS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING THESE MAJOR CLAIMS. ALL IT TAKES IS TO AVOID ONE OF THOSE MAJOR CLAIMS IN THIS PROGRAM HAS PAID FOR ITSELF COULD PAY FOR ITSELF IN THE FIRST MONTH BY AVOIDING ONE OF THOSE THINGS, AND WE NEED TO BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE HEALTHY AND AVOIDING THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.

SO THAT'S ONE MAJOR SOFT COST BEING A SELF-INSURED CITY THAT HAS NOT GETTING ENOUGH ATTENTION.

THE OTHER IS THE RETURN TO WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, SOMEONE ASKED IN PUBLIC REMARKS.

THEY SAID, WOULD YOU COUNCIL GO USE THIS? AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AFTER THE MEETING.

AND I'M ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT I AVOID GOING TO THE DOCTOR AT ALL COSTS

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BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT.

I DON'T WANT TO DO IT, AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE HALF OF MY DAY.

BUT IF I HAD A PLACE TO GO WHERE I PULL UP MY APP ON MY PHONE, I GO STRAIGHT THERE.

THERE'S NO WAITING LINE.

I LITERALLY WALK IN, GET MY CARE AND I WALK OUT AND I'M BACK TO WORK, PROBABLY IN A LOT OF CASES IN A HALF AN HOUR OR AN HOUR, THAT SAVES THE CITY A TON OF MONEY.

USUALLY, WHEN YOU'RE BACK FILLING A POSITION, YOU'RE PAYING TIME AND A HALF, YOU'RE PAYING OVERTIME.

NONE OF THAT WAS IN THE ANALYSIS.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT FROM A FINANCIAL, WHICH TO ME WAS THE VERY BOTTOM RUNG OF MY DECISION TREE THAT WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAVE THIS MUCH MONEY INTO PERPETUITY, THAT THE UPFRONT INVESTMENT IS A SMALL COST TO GET THIS PROGRAM GOING AND SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE DONE MANY YEARS AGO.

AND WHEN WE LOOK BACK AND WE EVALUATE IT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION AS WE DID WITH SELF-INSURANCE, WHICH IS WE SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE PROVIDED A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE FOR OUR FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT AND YOUR ANALYSIS IN, EVEN AS YOU MENTIONED, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION INFLATION COST.

THE LAST MAJOR COMPONENT THAT AGAIN GETS LOST IN THIS DISCUSSION IS WE ARE OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY.

EVERY INDUSTRY IS IN A STATE OF LABOR WARFARE AND PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING FOR EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR TALENT, AND EVERYONE IS TRYING TO LEARN THIS NEW WORLD ABOUT HOW TO COMPETE FOR TALENT.

IN YOUR REPORT LAST WEEK, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW MAINTENANCE WORKERS WE HAD TO INCREASE HOURLY WAGE TWO DOLLARS AN HOUR.

WE HAD TO PUT THESE INCENTIVES.

WE HAD TO PUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS IN PLACE TO TRY TO ATTRACT TALENT.

WHEN WE THE CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAVING IS PROGRAMS LIKE THIS WILL HELP US ATTRACT THAT TALENT TO HELP US RETAIN TALENT AND NOT HAVE THE COST OF TURNOVER AS PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR MEDICAL CARE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AS WE COMPETE, YOU KNOW, AND QUITE FRANKLY, A LARGE PART OF OUR EMPLOYEE BASE, YOU KNOW, IS MAYBE NOT LIKE THE MEDIAN OF FRISCO, RIGHT? WE HAVE MANY MAINTENANCE WORKERS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HARDER AND HARDER TO GET ACCESS TO A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WAITING LIST TO GET ON IT, AND NOT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

AND SO AGAIN, I'M I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE TABLED IT.

IF THIS WERE A DEBATE CLASS, I COULD HAVE DRAWN THE OTHER CARD AND ARTICULATED ARGUMENTS FOR THE OTHER SIDE.

SO I DON'T BEGRUDGE ANYONE ELSE WHO FALLS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ISSUE.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT POSITIONS AGAINST IT.

BUT WHEN I WEIGH EVERYTHING AND WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS, YOU KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IMPACT THE CITY FOR DECADES, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MILESTONE EVENING FOR US, NOT ONLY TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THE LONG TERM, BUT MANAGING OUR BUDGET IN AN EVER CHANGING WORLD.

MAYOR? GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE MAYOR IN THANKING THE COUNCIL FOR AGREEING TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION FROM OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

IT CERTAINLY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TAKE A STEP BACK AND TO DIG DEEPER AS WELL.

ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I REALIZED AS I REALLY STEPPED BACK AND LOOKED AT, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPOSAL IS TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT QUALITY CARE TO OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, WHILE MAINTAINING A MANAGEABLE AND CONTROLLABLE COST MODEL.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE FOR ME.

AS I LOOKED AT THIS.

MY TWO BIG CONCERNS, AS I WALKED AWAY FROM THIS LAST WEEK, THE FIRST ONE IS PROJECTED UTILIZATION, WHICH RESULTS IN DIVERTIBLE CLAIMS DOLLARS, WHICH IS REALLY THE BASIS OF THE FIVE YEAR PRO FORMA AND THE SECOND WAS EMPLOYEE DEMAND, WHICH IS ABOUT IS THERE A POOL FOR THIS FROM THE EMPLOYEE BASE? AND THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE REALLY SOUGHT AFTER TO DIG DEEPER.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON AS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

THE FIRST IS THAT AN MAYOR CHENEY ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER.

WE AS A CITY, WE ARE NOT GETTING IN THE BUSINESS OF HEALTH CARE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK REGARDING THAT.

THE CITY IS ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO USE A PRIVATE PROVIDER, PREMISE HEALTH, WHICH HAS GONE THROUGH A PRETTY EXTENSIVE RFP PROCESS TO PERFORM THE REQUESTED SERVICES.

SO PREMISE WILL BE HIRING THE DOCTORS AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE MEDICAL FACILITIES AND THE MEDICAL CARE PROVIDED TO OUR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.

IT IS NOT THE CITY OF FRISCO.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR ON IS WE TALKED

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ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ROUGHLY TWELVE HUNDRED BENEFIT ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY.

ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THOSE BENEFIT ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE RECEIVING THIS HEALTH CARE BENEFIT ARE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRE.

LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS.

TAKING CARE OF THOSE WHO TAKE CARE OF US IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO ME, AND THE MERE FACT THAT WE HAD MR. SAPP AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH BOTH CHIEFS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BENEFIT.

REALLY, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BENEFIT TO OUR CITY WORKERS AND IN PARTICULAR, OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IS AS I DUG DEEPER INTO THIS, I NOTICED THAT IN YOUR PRO FORMA, YOU DID USE A VERY CONSERVATIVE FIGURE OF ABOUT 40 PERCENT UTILIZATION.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS THE LOCAL CITY UTILIZATION DATA THAT YOU PROVIDED TO US, WHETHER IT'S ARLINGTON, THAT'S UTILIZING IT ABOUT FIFTY SEVEN PERCENT OR LEWISVILLE AT SIXTY EIGHT PERCENT OR DENTON AT NINETY TWO PERCENT.

THAT SAYS THE CITY EMPLOYEES ARE USING THIS HEALTH CARE FACILITY AND WE'VE GOT REAL LIVE DATA TO TO BENCHMARK OFF OF.

SO THE 40 PERCENT UTILIZATION IS CLEARLY CONSERVATIVE TO ME.

THE SECOND PIECE OF DATA IS THE DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED BY PREMISE HEALTH, WHO IS THE PROVIDER THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY RUNNING THIS CLINIC FOR US.

AND THEY HAVE 80 OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY HAVE BENCHMARKED AS WELL.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE 80 MUNICIPALITIES THAT THAT ARE IN PREMISE'S PORTFOLIO YEAR ONE, THEY HAVE ABOUT A UTILIZATION OF FIFTY SEVEN PERCENT A YEAR OR TWO.

IT JUMPS TO SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT AND YEAR THREE SEVENTY EIGHT PERCENT.

SO AGAIN, IT TELLS US THAT THE 40 PERCENT UTILIZATION THAT WE'VE USED IN TERMS OF VISITS IN OUR PRO FORMA IS VERY CONSERVATIVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL CITIES THAT ARE AROUND US, OR IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE COVERED UNDER PREMISE HEALTH CARE.

SO THAT TOLD ME A LOT ABOUT HOW WE PUT TOGETHER THE PRO FORMA AND THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK TO THAT.

AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE, WHICH YOU HEARD ME ECHO VERY CLEARLY IN OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS ABOUT THE LIKELIHOOD OF OUR OWN EMPLOYEES TO USE THE FACILITY BECAUSE THAT'S OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE.

WE CAN HAVE THE BEST FACILITY, BUT IF PEOPLE CHOOSE TO CONTINUE TO USE THEIR DOCTORS AND NOT UTILIZE THIS FACILITY, IT WOULD BE A WASTE AND WE WOULD NOT GET A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.

AND SO I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THAT AND DOING A LIKELIHOOD SURVEY TO GET EMPLOYEE FEEDBACK BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING LIKE REAL TIME EMPLOYEE FEEDBACK TO HELP US INFORM OUR DECISIONS.

AND BASED ON THE DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THIS SURVEY, WITH 60 PERCENT INDICATING THAT THEY WOULD VERY LIKELY UTILIZE THAT SURVEY.

AND FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE SURVEY, VERY LIKELY IS AT THE TOP OF THE SCALE.

SO YOU CAN'T GET MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT.

AND SO 60 PERCENT OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE SURVEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD VERY LIKELY USE IT.

THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN IS SOMEWHAT LIKELY, AND THAT GOES NOW TO EIGHTY NINE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SURVEYED, EMPLOYEES THAT WERE SURVEYED THAT SAID THAT THEY WOULD EITHER VERY LIKELY OR SOMEWHAT LIKELY UTILIZE IT.

SO AGAIN, IF YOU COMPARE IT TO THE PRO FORMA NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE USING VERSUS ACTUAL DATA FROM OUR EMPLOYEES THAT TELLS US THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER UTILIZATION THAN WHAT'S PROJECTED IN THE PRO FORMA AND THEN THE FIRE ASSOCIATION SURVEY THAT YOU REFERENCED EARLIER AND THAT MR. SAPP REFERENCED, WHICH HAD 86 PERCENT UTILIZATION AND THE FACT THAT NINETY ONE PERCENT OF OF THE FIRE ASSOCIATION MEMBERS WANT TO SEE THE CITY INVESTMENT.

AND THEN FINALLY, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, AS MAYOR CHENEY ALLUDED TO EARLIER TO TALK TO THE CHIEFS OF BOTH FIRE AND POLICE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT REPRESENT ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THIS PARTICULAR BENEFIT.

AND NOT ONLY ATTRACTION, NOT ONLY RETENTION WAS CITED AS A RATIONALE FOR THIS PARTICULAR BENEFIT, BUT ALSO ATTRACTION, AND WE LIVE IN AN AGE OF THE GREAT RESIGNATION AS WE ALL KNOW WHERE EMPLOYEES ARE OPTING OUT OF THE WORKPLACE TODAY AND TO KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL ATTRACTION BAIT FOR TALENT WITHIN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS CERTAINLY A PULL FOR THIS PARTICULAR BENEFIT AS WELL.

SO BASED ON THE CITY UTILIZATIONS FOR THOSE CITIES THAT ARE LOCAL TO FRISCO, BASED ON THE 80 MUNICIPALITY UTILIZATION DATA FROM PREMISE AND BASED ON THE EMPLOYEE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE SURVEY, I THINK THAT OUR UTILIZATION NUMBERS IN OUR PRO FORMA ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE.

AND I THINK IF WE UTILIZED HIGHER UTILIZATION NUMBERS BASED ON REAL DATA, WE WOULD PROBABLY SEE THAT WE WOULD BREAK EVEN MUCH SOONER THAN OUR THREE YEAR PROJECTIONS THAT WERE LAID OUT IN OUR PRO FORMA.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE IN SUPPORTING MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CLINIC.

MY POSITION ON THIS HASN'T CHANGED AND I MADE A LOT OF COMMENTS AT OUR LAST MEETING, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ANY OF THOSE RIGHT NOW.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I JOTTED DOWN, LAUREN.

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IF YOU COULD HELP JUST CLARIFY FOR EVERYBODY, THAT'S LISTENING.

WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS AND COMMENTS AND WHATNOT THIS WEEK MENTIONING THAT STARTUP COSTS FOR $6 MILLION.

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THE ACTUAL TOTAL INITIAL STARTUP COSTS ARE ONLY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.

THE OTHER COSTS SHOWN ON THAT CHART THAT YOU PUT THERE ARE COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ANYWAY, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THIS CLINIC OR NOT, BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER, WE'RE SELF-INSURED.

SO IF ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES GOES TO A DOCTOR, WE'RE PAYING THAT COST REGARDLESS.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING WHAT IS COMPLETELY A VARIABLE COST RIGHT NOW, FIXING THAT COST IN.

SO THE MORE EMPLOYEES THAT USE THE CLINIC, THE LOWER OUR COST OF SERVICES ARE TO THE CITIZENS AND THE LESS THAT WE'RE SPENDING THERE.

BUT I AM CORRECT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THE ACTUAL INITIAL [INAUDIBLE] START UP WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.

WELL, ACTUALLY, I THINK WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUDGETED IS ABOUT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND.

OK, SO INITIAL STARTUP COST YEAH, TO ALL THOSE THINGS, THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS, THE INITIAL LEASE, WHATEVER COST TO GET GOING, WE'RE ONLY ABOUT SIX HUNDRED, NOT SIX MILLION.

CORRECT.

SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE QUALITY CONTROL MEASURES THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS VERY CONCERNED WITH EARLY ON AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS PART OF OUR QUARTERLY HR REPORT, WE'LL HAVE MEASURES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE WE'RE ON TRACK TO MEET THE THE NUMBERS AND THE PRO FORMAS.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO QUALITY CONTROL MEASURES BUILT INTO THE CONTRACTS.

SO IF WE SEE SOMETHING START TO CHANGE WITH THE PROVIDER, WE'VE GOT A METHOD TO MEASURE THAT AND THEN TO WORK WITH IT.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND IF I COULD JUST POINT OUT ALSO, WHICH ADDS ANOTHER LEVEL OF DEFINITELY REDUNDANCY CHECKING AND COMFORT IS THAT OUR CONSULTANTS LOCKED IN.

WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE VENDOR IS DEFINITELY DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON REPRESENTING AND TRACKING, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.

BUT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE USING LOCKED IN BACK BEHIND THAT AS A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT THAT EVERY PROCEDURE AND PROCESS THAT THE CLINIC DOES, IT'S GOING TO GO AHEAD AND FILE WHAT WE CALL A ZERO DOLLAR CLAIM WITH AT THIS TIME, CIGNA, OUR INSURANCE PROVIDER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO KNOW, ACTUALLY.

I MEAN, JUST LIKE IF WE WENT TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, WE'LL KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S DONE.

EVERY NEEDLE STICK, EVERY PROCEDURE, EVERY LOOK AT THAT'S DONE AND IT'S GOING TO GO IN OUR INSURANCE.

SO WE'RE ALSO STILL GOING TO HAVE REPORTS ON ON WHAT IS HAPPENING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

BUT THEN LOFTON WILL TAKE THAT CLAIM AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT REAL DOLLAR COMMUNITY COSTS AGAINST THOSE PROCEDURES THAT ARE DONE.

SO THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRULY IDENTIFY HOW MUCH MONEY WE WERE SAVING THAT WE PULLED FROM DOCTOR'S VISITS IN THE COMMUNITY AND PUT IN THE CLINIC AGAINST WHAT THE ACTUAL DOLLARS OF THAT COST WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD OUR EMPLOYEES GONE TO A DOCTOR OR A FACILITY OUTSIDE IN THE CLINIC.

SO WE ARE DEFINITELY STAYING ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THAT THE CLINIC IS PERFORMING AND SAVING MONEY IN DUAL MANNERS THE WAY WE HOPE AND EXPECT IT TO.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS COME UP, BUT IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, YOU'D MENTIONED TO ME THAT WHILE WE'VE GOT IT LISTED AS EIGHT TO FIVE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IF WE FIND A GREATER NEED AT OTHER TIMES THAT WE CAN ADJUST THOSE HOURS CORRECT? AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT CURRENTLY, WE HAVE I THINK ABOUT TWO DAYS A WEEK THAT WE DO EARLY DRAWS FOR FIREFIGHTER PHYSICALS THAT HAVE WORKED REALLY WELL, AND THE VENDOR HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.

AND WE'VE MADE SURE THAT WITH OUR LEASED FACILITY, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF LATER, EARLIER HOURS OR LATER HOURS, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE FIND BEST NEEDS OUR PATIENTS AND OUR NEEDS FOR THE CITY.

I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE BUT I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU FOR PROVIDING THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

I WANT TO THANK HENRY FOR SITTING ON THE PHONE WITH ME FOR QUITE A WHILE AND ANSWERING MY SAME QUESTIONS MULTIPLE TIMES IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY TO GET THE POINT ACROSS TO ME.

SO I DID TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THIS.

I VISITED WITH SENIOR STAFF.

I READ WHAT YOU HAD.

I TALKED TO SOME EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WORD FREE A LOT MAY HAVE SKEWED SOME OF THE RESULTS OR SOME OF THE DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FREE IS ATTRACTIVE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF.

I JUST FEEL WHEN I READ THIS THAT THERE WAS A MUCH BETTER CASE MADE FOR IT THE SECOND TIME AROUND WITH THE DATA AND THE DISCUSSION.

I JUST I'M NOT QUITE THERE WITH THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, THE HOURS, THE LOCATION, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE THAT LIVE OUT OF HERE.

THE RELIANCE ON THE USE OF THE VIRTUAL APPOINTMENT WHEN MY PRIOR REQUEST TO REALLY PROMOTE TELADOC WAS KIND OF MET WITH RESISTANCE AND THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO USE THAT.

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SO I KIND OF QUESTION WHETHER THAT THERE I WANT TO SEE A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE PLAN TO KEEP OUR COSTS UNDER CONTROL, INCLUDING TELADOC.

I BELIEVE WE DID RAISE OUR EMPLOYEES COST TO GO TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM FOR A NON EMERGENCIES.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR AN INGROWN TOENAIL, IT COST YOU MORE MONEY INSTEAD OF USING THAT AS YOUR PRIMARY CARE.

SO I THINK WE DID PART OF IT.

SO WHEN I WHEN I, WHEN I VOTE AGAINST THIS TONIGHT, I'M NOT VOTING AGAINST OUR EMPLOYEES, I'M VOTING AGAINST WHAT I THINK IS A PLAN THAT COULD BE BETTER OVERALL PROVIDE A GREATER BENEFIT.

SO IF IT DOES PASS TONIGHT, I HOPE I'M HORRIBLY WRONG.

I HOPE THE UTILIZATION'S HIGHER.

I HOPE THE ADOPTION RATES BETTER.

I HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.

I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT IT WILL NOT AND THAT THE COST OF THE CITY WILL BE BIGGER.

BUT IF IT WAS TO PASS TONIGHT, I WILL SUPPORT IT AND DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SUCCESS.

BUT MY VOTE WILL REMAIN A NO TONIGHT.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND STAFF HAVE PUT INTO THIS.

WELL, THANKS, LAUREN, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND THE STAFF.

I THINK FOR ANSWERING EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS, NOT JUST FROM COUNCIL, BUT FROM OUR CITIZENS AS WELL.

WE FORWARDED A LOT OF THOSE EMAILS TO YOU GUYS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THESE, BUT NOT ALL OF THESE.

SO THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL, I THINK AS WE WENT DOWN THE DOWN OUR LIST OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS.

I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THIS FOR FOR LITERALLY THE THREE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, THE PROCESS, THE HISTORY THAT WE'VE COME THROUGH.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT.

I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE DID GET A SECOND BITE OF THIS APPLE.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BRIAN, AND HE WILL BE VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED FROM BOTH A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO FROM THE THE HEALTH AND HAPPINESS OF OF YOUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN TALENT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

AS COUNCIL MEMBER ANGELIA PELHAM POINTED OUT.

REALLY, IF YOU STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT OUR GOALS WERE AND WHERE WE STARTED WITH, AND THIS HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH REVIEWING THIS AND SAYING THIS AGAIN IS GOING TO SELF-INSURED WAS IT WAS A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE.

I WAS HERE FOR THAT CHAMPION OF THAT, AND IT'S WORKED.

AND WE SORT OF FORGET THE CHILD BIRTHING PROCESS OF OF GOING TO SELF-INSURED.

AND IT'S WE MADE THE PROMISE THAT AS WE CONTINUE, WE WILL WE WILL LOOK FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE COSTS.

AND PHASE TWO OF THAT, OR PART TWO WAS A CLINIC.

AND THE COMMITMENT TO OUR TAX PAYERS AS WELL WAS WE WILL TAKE A PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WE SAVE BY GOING FROM SELF-INSURED, RETURNING THEM TO THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT THEY WILL ALSO ESTABLISH OUR INSURANCE RESERVE.

AND AS WE BUILD THAT, ONCE WE BUILD THAT RESERVE UP AND ONCE THE TIMING IS RIGHT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR HEADCOUNT AND AS WE WE'RE MONITORING OUR COSTS, WE WOULD THEN MOVE TOWARDS OPENING THE CLINIC.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A STARTING POINT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A TOEHOLD TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE, MY OW PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN, AND I'M BLESSED TO HAVE A WONDERFUL HEALTH CARE PLAN.

I CAN GO JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE I WANT AND THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE AND THEY TAKE A LUNCH BREAK.

I HAVE TO WAIT TO GET IN THERE AND IF I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE PRIMARY CARE, I HAVE TO GO SEE PHYSICIAN'S ASSISTANT WHO'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, VERY QUALIFIED AND VERY HAPPY WITH THE WITH THE CARE THAT I GET.

BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE.

IT'S EXPENSIVE FOR THE COMPANY THAT MY WIFE WORKED FOR FOR THIRTY TWO YEARS AND ARE OUT OF POCKETS, OUR CO-PAYS, OUR DEDUCTIBLES ARE ALSO HIGH.

WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE AND PAY THOSE.

SO HERE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE OPPORTUNITIES AS MAYOR CHENEY SAID.

WHERE IT'S ON THE SURFACE, IT'S ALMOST COUNTERINTUITIVE.

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A GOVERNMENT TO SAVE ITS CITIZENS MONEY AND AT THE SAME TIME ENHANCES BENEFITS FOR ITS EMPLOYEES? IT ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VISION.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN APPETITE FOR A BIT OF RISK AND YOU'VE GOT TO YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE THOSE FIRST STEPS.

YOU'VE GOT TO SET UP YOUR YOUR YOUR PLAN TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

FULFILL YOUR PROMISE.

MEET THOSE GOALS.

SAVE YOUR TAXPAYER MONEY, ENHANCE YOUR BENEFIT FOR YOUR EMPLOYEE.

YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS IF WE WE TALK ABOUT THE BUSINESS WORLD AND WE TALK ABOUT TAKING CONSERVATIVE FIVE YEAR APPROACH.

THIS WAS A BUSINESS.

WE DEPRECIATE THIS OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

WE WOULD SHOW A 10 YEAR MODEL AND THEN CALM OUR SHAREHOLDERS DOWN.

THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK AND THIS DOES WORK IN CORPORATE AMERICA.

IF YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS OVER FIVE HUNDRED FOLKS, YOU LOOK AT SELF-INSURED.

AS THAT GROWS AND YOUR OPPORTUNITIES, YOU DON'T PUT YOUR CLINIC NEAR YOUR

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HEADQUARTERS WITH YOUR WHITE COLLAR WORKERS.

YOU PUT IT WHERE YOUR MANUFACTURING IS OR WHERE YOUR PRODUCTION LINE IS, WHERE YOU'RE BLUE AND GRAY COLLAR WORKERS ARE.

AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND THEY CAN USE THAT CLINIC.

THEY NOT HAVING AN OUT OF POCKET, ONLY CO-PAY, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS CAN USE IT AND IT IT SAVES US MONEY AS THE AS THE INSURANCE PROVIDER, IT SAVES THEM MONEY AND THEIR OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS.

SO I MEAN, I'VE GOT A VARIETY OF NOTES HERE, AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN COVERED.

I FULLY SUPPORT THIS.

THERE'S AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND ADJUST TIMES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE CAN DO AS WE RETURN MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND AND SUPPORT THE TAXPAYER AND CONTINUE TO ENHANCE BENEFITS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO AGAIN, I APPLAUD THIS EFFORT.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT AND I WILL STRONGLY STRONG ADVOCATE AND STRONG YES VOTE.

IS IT JUST BRINGS IT DOWN TO THE END OF THE LINE HERE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, LAUREN AND GEORGE, YOU SPENT I THINK IT WAS AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES WITH ME AND WITH THE MAYOR ON A VERY LONG AFTERNOON REALLY DIGGING INTO THIS AND AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME.

IN DOING SO, IT HELPED ME TO UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE.

AND I'VE REALLY, REALLY TRIED TO GET THERE.

I MEAN, AND I TOLD YOU THAT AS I WAS WALKING OUT, THAT I'VE REALLY TRIED TO GET THERE AND AND AS I'VE BEEN THINKING THROUGH AND AS I'VE BEEN.

PROCESSING THIS, I MEAN, I'M HOPING THAT I'M GOING TO STAND IN THE PLACE WITH BRIAN LIVINGSTON OF THE HOPE OF I HOPE I'M WRONG.

I HOPE THAT I'M PROVEN WRONG AND I WILL BE REALLY OK IF I'M PROVEN WRONG WITH THIS BECAUSE I THINK THEN EVERYBODY WINS IN THAT PROCESS.

BUT I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN MET YET.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE IS AND I'VE SAID THIS, I WORK FOR HEALTH CARE AND WE DON'T HAVE AN EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC AND IT'S A PRETTY BIG SYSTEM.

AND THE REASON WE DON'T IS FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO.

I STILL AM STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS, AND I ALSO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATA, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ANSWER A SURVEY AND I GET IT TO THE VERY IT'S THE VERY LIKELY.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE SOMEWHAT LIKELY WHEN I ANSWER A SURVEY, THAT'S WELL I MIGHT, I MIGHT NOT.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY NEVER, BUT I'M NOT GUNG HO ABOUT IT IF I'M NOT THE VERY LIKELY.

AND AND ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WAS GIVEN WAS ABOUT HAVING A PCP, AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD CHUNK OF OURS WHO ACTUALLY DID GO TO PCP AND HAD THEIR OWN THEIR OWN PHYSICIANS AND.

SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE SOLVING WITH THIS IS WHERE I COME TO.

SOME OF THEM I THINK WE CAN SOLVE, BUT IT DOESN'T GET THERE ENOUGH FOR ME IN THAT SENSE.

WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN DOING IS CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT BEING COMPETITIVE IN OUR BENEFITS.

I THINK WE CAN GET THERE IN A PLAN WITH IF WE CAN.

THIS IS NOT THE PLAN FOR ME, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO MAKE THIS ONE BETTER YET, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.

AND IN DOING SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE CITIES AROUND US, THERE WAS A BIG HOLE OF CITIES THAT AREN'T DOING IT, AND THOSE ARE A LOT OF THE CITIES THAT WE COMPETE WITH AS WELL.

AND SO THAT QUESTION'S FOR ME.

ALSO, WHEN I LOOK AT THE DATA OF THE UTILIZATION FOR THE OTHER CITIES, THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF CITIES WHERE THE DATA WENT DOWN OVER THREE YEARS THAT IT WAS A HIGH UTILIZATION RATE AT THE BEGINNING.

AND THEN IT IT PETERED OFF TOWARDS THE YEAR THREE.

AND NOW THAT COULD BE BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASON IT COULD BE.

YOU KNOW, IT STILL MAY NOT GO BELOW THE UTILIZATION RATE THAT YOU WANT OR NEED.

BUT STILL, TO ME, THAT WAS KIND OF A FLAG THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR IT.

SO IN ALL OF THAT, THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT VOTE FOR ME.

IT REALLY IS A DIFFICULT VOTE, AND I COULD ARGUE IT BOTH WAYS.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN STAFF REALLY COMES TO ME AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WE'RE THE EXPERTS ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ON SOME THINGS.

I REALLY TRY TO TAKE THAT AS 90 PERCENT OF MY DECISION.

I'M JUST NOT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET ME THERE.

BUT I THINK TONIGHT I'M STILL GOING TO BE IN.

I'M GOING TO BE IN THE NO AGAIN.

BUT I I AM HOPING THAT I'LL BE PROVEN WRONG ON THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT BECOMES A WIN WIN.

SO I THINK THE BURNED COST AND THE NON RECOVERABLE COSTS THAT IF EVEN IF WE COULD CANCEL THIS CONTRACT OUT IN TWO TO THREE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING, THE NON RECOVERABLE COSTS ARE STILL A CONCERN FOR ME AND IT'S A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT CAP CONSISTENTLY.

WE DO HAVE THE RESERVES NOW, BUT WILL WE HAVE THE RESERVES IN THREE YEARS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND THAT I'M STARTING TO LOOK AT JUST LIKE Y'ALL ARE IN THE SENSE OF WHAT OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE IN TEN YEARS FROM NOW? FOR ME, THIS IS THIS IS A PIECE WHERE I'M LOOKING AT HOW DO WE SUSTAIN? SOME OF THESE MEASURES, WHEN OUR STAFF IS MUCH BIGGER AND THE REST OF THE BENEFITS

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THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE AS WELL, SO.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME, I APPRECIATE WHERE WE ARE, AND AGAIN, THIS WILL BE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PHILOSOPHICAL NO'S FOR ME OF SITTING UP HERE.

SO, LAUREN, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING SOME TIME IN GEORGE, CITY STAFF TO THE CONSULTANT WAS AVAILABLE TO AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC.

WE WERE THERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, AN HOUR AND A HALF TWO HOURS.

AND I JUST ASKED QUESTION AFTER QUESTION AFTER QUESTION.

AND THERE WERE SO MANY ASSUMPTIONS I CAME UP.

AND WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT I JUST COULDN'T GET THERE EITHER.

AND YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR SUPPORT OUR CITY STAFF.

YOU KNOW, WE GET TO STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.

I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY I WAS AGAINST THIS LAST TIME, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET, YOU KNOW, INTO A LONG DIATRIBE RIGHT NOW.

BUT THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE OF MY STANCE ON FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND BUT I'M A NO RIGHT NOW, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LAUREN.

THERE ARE TWO POINTS THAT I THINK THAT WERE SURFACED THAT MIGHT BE WORTHY OF YOU JUST RESPONDING TO.

ONE IS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD BE GATHERING TREND DATA THAT COULD HELP INFORM DECISIONS IN TERMS OF OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE MIGHT PROVIDE TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

I KNOW THAT I GOT A NUMBER OF EMAILS REGARDING PRIVACY AND HIPAA.

SO CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT, THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT TREND DATA, THAT YOU WERE NOT LOOKING AT WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE WOULD BE GETTING IN TERMS OF HEALTH CARE SERVICE, BUT JUST SPEAK TO THE HIPAA POINT.

AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HUFFMAN BROUGHT UP SOME OF THE LOWER UTILIZATION OF SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES.

HOWEVER, THE ASTERISKS THAT I SAW WITH THOSE CITIES IS THAT THEY WERE NOT ALSO PROVIDING POLICE AND FIRE ANNUAL PHYSICALS, WHICH HELPED TO DRIVE UP UTILIZATION, AND WE WOULD BE DOING THAT IN OUR CLINIC AS WELL.

SO IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO BOTH THOSE POINTS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YES, DEFINITELY.

SO THE MAIN REASON THAT WE ARE GOING WITH A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR IS BECAUSE WE WANT OUR EMPLOYEES TO USE THIS CLINIC AND FEEL ASSURED THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME PRIVACY IN THIS CLINIC IS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE WITH THEIR PERSONAL DOCTORS.

SO THERE DEFINITELY IS THE SEPARATION, COMPLETE SEPARATION.

THEY ARE A MEDICAL FACILITY, A MEDICAL BUSINESS.

SO THERE'S COMPLETE HIPAA CONFIDENTIALITY AND ALL THE MEDICAL RECORDS.

AS A SELF-INSURED PROVIDER AS WE ARE ALREADY TODAY AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, I THINK OVER LIKE 10 YEARS NOW, WE RECEIVE DATA ABOUT OUR UTILIZATION.

IT'S UNIDENTIFIED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE PARTICULAR EMPLOYEES ARE, BUT WE HAD THE SPECIFICS ON THE TYPES OF VISITS OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE, WHAT TYPE OF TREATMENTS THEY'RE GETTING.

THAT'S PART OF BEING SELF-INSURED IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR MONEY.

WHEN YOU'RE FULLY INSURED, YOU JUST PAY WHATEVER THE INSURANCE COMPANY TELLS YOU IS OWED.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AND THE DETAIL AS A SELF-INSURED PROVIDER.

WITH THIS DETAIL, WE ARE ABLE TO THEN MORE STRATEGICALLY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR BENEFITS AND OUR PLANS TO BOTH SAVE MONEY AND PROVIDE THE RIGHT BENEFITS TO OUR EMPLOYEES WITH THE CLINIC WILL BE GETTING THAT SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION AS ANY OTHER MEDICAL PROVIDER TO IDENTIFY HOW OUR EMPLOYEES ARE USING THE CLINIC AND WHAT THAT COSTS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE MARKETPLACE, THAT WE'RE SAVING IT BY BRINGING IT INTO THE CLINIC AND THEN.

THE SECOND ONE YES.

SO THERE WERE A FEW CITIES IN SOME OF THE DATA THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU.

IT WAS PARTIAL BECAUSE FOR SOME IT WAS OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, AND SO IT WASN'T A FULL YEAR.

I THINK ONE THAT MAY HAVE GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

CITY OF LEWISVILLE, THEY SHARE THEIR CLINIC WITH THE CITY OF COPPELL.

I WAS NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION, SO IT JUST SHOWS THE CITY OF EULESS.

I MEAN, LOUISVILLE'S UTILIZATION.

BUT INTERESTINGLY, MOST OF THE CITIES JUST USE THIS FOR PREVENTIVE OR URGENT CARE.

THEY DO NOT USE IT FOR POLICE AND FIRE PHYSICALS, WHICH REALLY IS AS WAS INDICATED BEFORE.

WE REALLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO STRONG LEVERS THAT WE FEEL WILL INCREASE THE UTILIZATION COMFORT BY OUR EMPLOYEES TO USE THE CLINIC.

THE POLICE AND FIRE PHYSICALS, WHICH, AS WAS SPOKEN TO BEFORE BY MR. SAPP, HAS A TENDENCY TO JUST KIND OF GRADUALLY YOU DEVELOP A COMFORT LEVEL WITH WHO'S ALREADY GOT YOUR INFORMATION AND YOU'RE ALREADY SEEING AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.

WHY NOT GO AHEAD AND GO TO THEM? WE SEE THAT TODAY WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT PROVIDER THAT WE HAVE.

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AND SO WE THINK THAT BY NATURE, ALMOST HALF OF OUR POPULATION, AS YOU HAVE INDICATED, ARE POLICE AND FIRE.

WHILE NOT ALL OF THEM, A LOT OF THEM WILL EVENTUALLY PROBABLY FEEL COMFORTABLE, MAKE THEM THEIR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AND THEN BIOMETRIC SCREENINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONDUCTED INTO THE CLINIC AGAIN.

THIS IS A SPECIFIC TOUCHPOINT THAT THE CLINIC ALWAYS USES.

THIS IS WHAT THEIR MODEL IS ABOUT, IS USES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION AND TALKING TO THE EMPLOYEES ABOUT WHERE THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES.

THE OTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED, BUT IT'S BEEN KIND OF SKIPPED OVER, IS WORKER'S COMP.

IT WAS MENTIONED BY MR. SAPP, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE THINK THAT WE ARE THEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO REALLY APPROACH THE HEALTH OF OUR TOTAL EMPLOYEE.

THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOT JUST OUR EMPLOYEES AT ONE MOMENT, BUT EVEN WHEN THEY COME IN FOR AN INJURY IF THEY'VE NOT BEEN TO US BEFORE.

REALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS KIND OF THE NATURAL ASPECT OF THIS TYPE OF CLINIC IS THAT IF ESPECIALLY IF THE PROBABILITY OF THE INJURY WAS AS A RESULT OF MAYBE THEIR OWN HEALTH OR WELL-BEING, THEN THEY WILL USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND MOVE THEM OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT MAKING THEM A BETTER, HEALTHIER EMPLOYEE SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT THAT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT IS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE BUSINESS, WHAT VENDORS LIKE PREMISE HEALTH DOES IS THAT THEY REALLY HELP BETTER MANAGE THE CASE MANAGEMENT OF A WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS. SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT THIS WILL HELP IMPROVE THE SPECIFICS OF THE TYPE OF TREATMENTS THAT WE ARE MANAGING THE CASE MANAGEMENT, BEING ABLE TO TIGHTEN THAT DOWN, GET OUR EMPLOYEES ATTENDED TO SOONER AND MANAGE THE CASES, GETTING THEM BACK TO WORK AND THEN ONCE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE TOTAL HEALTH OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS THERE.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE LAST MEETING, SO YOU ALL NEED TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE AND THEN PICK YOUR MOTION.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

MOVE TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE.

MOTION BY JOHN, SECOND BY BILL TO REMOVE, ALL IN FAVOR.

THIS ITEM IS NOW REMOVED FROM THE TABLE, I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.

MOVE APPROVED ITEM FORTY NINE.

BY JOHN SECOND BY BILL, ALL IN FAVOR.

SHOW OF HANDS.

OPPOSED AND I WILL BREAK THAT TIE IN SUPPORT.

SO MOTION PASSES FOUR THREE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, LAURA AND GEORGE, FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND STAFF, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF COUNCIL FOR REALLY DIGGING IN AND DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND HOMEWORK ON THIS ITEM.

SO WITH THAT, THAT WILL, WHAT NUMBER ARE WE ON? FORTY NINE.

EXECUTE A COMMERCIAL LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PRESTON MOB PARTNERS FOR A LEASE OF

[50. Consider and act upon authorizing the City Manager to execute a Commercial Lease Agreement with Preston MOB Partners for the lease of medical office space for the employee health clinic. Tabled 11/16/2021. (Human Resources/DF)]

MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE FOR THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC.

THIS WAS TABLED ON NOVEMBER 16, 2021.

I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE.

SO MOVED.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OPPOSE THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO, THIS ITEM IS NOW REMOVED FROM THE TABLE.

MAYOR COUNCIL.

THIS IS A FIVE YEAR COMMERCIAL LEASE INSIDE THE FRISCO MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.

THAT ADDRESS IS SEVENTY FIVE EIGHTY NINE PRESTON ROAD.

THAT'S THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PRESTON AND STONE BROOK.

THIS LEASE WOULD PROVIDE FOR ABOUT THIRTY FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS TWO MEDICAL SUITES WITHIN THAT FACILITY.

ANY OF THE RENT AND OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THIS FACILITY ARE ALREADY CAPTURED IN THE PRO FORMA THAT YOU'VE SEEN.

THAT MONTHLY BASE RENT IS ABOUT FIFTY SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS, CAPPED AT A THREE PERCENT ANNUAL INCREASE.

CAM CHARGES AND OPERATING EXPENSES ARE ESTIMATED AT ABOUT TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED PER MONTH, AND THOSE ARE ALSO CAPPED AT A FIVE PERCENT ANNUAL INCREASE.

WHICH BRINGS US TO A TOTAL COST OF ABOUT 80 TO 100 PER MONTH.

THAT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, JANITORIAL AND UTILITIES.

THIS LEASE WOULD START IN FEBRUARY.

THE FIRST TWO MONTHS ARE WAIVED, SO TECHNICALLY THE LEASE START IS APRIL 1ST.

SO THERE IS A 90 DAY TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE IN WHICH THE CITY COULD GET OUT OF THE LEASE AT ANY TIME.

AND IT'S JUST WE WOULD PAY BACK THE THERE'S A FINISH OUT ALLOWANCE UNDER THE LEASE OF THIRTY THREE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED, AND SO THAT WOULD BE DUE BACK ALONG WITH THE BROKER'S FEES.

IF WE WERE TO TERMINATE THE LEASE EARLY.

[INAUDIBLE] THEN I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION.

APPROVE ITEM 50.

BY JOHN, SECOND BY BILL.

ALL IN FAVOR.

WAS EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF THAT? THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

OPPOSED.

[51. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance designating six (6) election precincts for the Saturday, January 29, 2022 Special Election to be held in the City of Frisco, Collin and Denton Counties, Texas; as ordered by the City Council; authorizing all necessary actions relating thereto; and providing a savings/repealing clause, severability clause, and an effective date. (CSO/KM)]

OK, LET'S TAKE US TO ITEM FIFTY ONE.

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CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING SIX ELECTION PRECINCTS FOR THE SATURDAY, JANUARY 29, 2022 SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF FRISCO, COLLIN AND DENTON COUNTIES TEXAS, AS ORDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AUTHORIZING ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS RELATING THERETO, PROVIDING A SAVINGS REPEALING CLAUSE, SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND I GUESS BY, I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE SOME BACKGROUND.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER DAN LIVINGSTON HE.

NO, NO.

I'M SORRY.

WOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

YEAH, I'M SORRY.

DAN STRICKLIN.

THANKS FOR THAT MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAN STRICKLIN HAS ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR A SEAT ON THE DENTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

AND SO PER CITY CHARTER, BY MAKING ANY PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT DEFINITIVE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT, IT ACTUALLY MEANS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER IMMEDIATELY RESIGNS THAT SEAT.

SO AS I THINK IT WAS DONE THROUGH IT VIA FACEBOOK POST OR OTHER COMMUNICATIONS, AND SO ONCE THAT IS MADE, THEN THAT IS ACTUALLY OFFICIAL.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS FROM HERE IS THAT MR. STRICKLIN CONTINUES TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS RESIGNED THE ROLE IN WHAT'S CALLED A HOLDOVER PROVISION, SO HE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER UNTIL THE SEAT IS FILLED.

WE DO HAVE A STATE CONSTITUTION AS WELL AS A CITY CHARTER THAT SAYS THAT THE SEAT MUST BE HELD OR FILLED WITHIN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS.

UNFORTUNATELY, LOGIC DOESN'T ALWAYS ALIGN WITH THE LAW.

AND OF COURSE, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS PUTS THIS DATE AT MARCH TWENTY SIXTH WOULD BE WHAT WAS CURRENTLY WITHIN THAT LAW.

ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER LAW THAT WE CANNOT HOLD AN ELECTION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF A PRIMARY ELECTION.

SO THAT CLOSED THE WINDOW EVEN FURTHER, GIVING A DEADLINE TO MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY 31ST AS THE END DATE, BUT JANUARY 29TH IS THE SATURDAY BEFORE I BELIEVE.

IT WAS TWENTY TWO TO TWENTY NINE.

WE HAVE HAD THIS SITUATION IN THE PAST AND THE LAW HAS CHANGED CERTAINLY SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

THE LAST TIME TO HAPPEN WAS WHEN MR. BOB ALLEN RESIGNED HIS SEAT TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND THEN PRIOR TO THAT WE HAD.

I THINK JOHN YOU RESIGNED TO RUN FOR A STATE REP SEAT AND THEN WE HAD MR. PAT FALLON, WHO ALSO RESIGNED.

I THINK PAT'S SCENARIO IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT HE WAS IN THE LAST YEAR OF HIS TERM, AND SO COUNCIL ACTED DIFFERENTLY THEN AS A RESULT OF NOT BEING ABLE TO ALIGN THE DATES, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A CHALLENGE.

SOMETIMES, I THINK, FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERYONE UP HERE WANTS TO SAVE EVERY TAXPAYER DOLLAR.

EVERYONE WANTS TO TREAT PEOPLE FAIRLY.

EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE FAIR AND TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO FOLLOW THE THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

I THINK SOMETIMES COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY, WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST WAIT UNTIL MAY AND JUST PUT ALL THE ITEMS ON THE SAME BALLOT? AND THAT SEEMS EASIER.

YOU'RE ALREADY DOING ELECTION ANYWAY.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T MAKE THE RULES.

WE FOLLOW THE RULES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, GOVERNANCE, THERE COMES A COSTS.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE EASIER EVERY SINGLE YEAR ON THE CITY SECRETARY.

IT WOULD BE EASIER ON OUR CITY BUDGET IF WE JUST NEVER HAD AN ELECTION.

YOU ALL LOVE THIS AND WE JUST ALWAYS RAN UNOPPOSED AND COULD CANCEL ELECTIONS.

AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE UP IN MAY THAT WOULD LOVE FOR THEIR ELECTION TO BE RUN UNOPPOSED, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

BUT THAT IS THE PRICE OF GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE PRICE OF TRANSPARENCY.

NOT EVERYONE PROBABLY NECESSARILY AGREES WITH MY POSITION, AND THAT'S OK.

AND SO SOMETIMES THERE'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DIFFERENT LEVERS OF OF WHERE YOU FALL ON THINGS.

AND SO THAT IS THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

IT WOULD BE A SHORT RUNWAY, CERTAINLY.

BUT WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS NOT NECESSARILY AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WOULD FOLLOW WHAT WE WOULD CALL LOGIC OR THE EASIEST PATH, BUT IT IS AN AGENDA, AS POSTED TO FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

AND WITH THAT COUNCIL, I WILL OPEN IT TO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK YOU WANT TO SHARE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I CAME IN TODAY FIGHTING FOR MAY BECAUSE IT'S LOGICAL.

IT'S EASIER FOR THE CANDIDATES.

IT SAVES THE TAXPAYER MONEY.

IT'S IT'S BETTER FOR LESS CONFUSION.

BUT I WOULD URGE OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO LOOK AT THAT LAW TO MAYBE HELP US AVOID SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT UP TO ME TO PICK WHICH PART OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION I WANT TO ABIDE BY, AND WHICH PART I WANT TO IGNORE.

I THINK THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WHEN SOMEBODY THAT DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME GETS PUT IN THE SAME POSITION, I WOULD NOT WANT THEM TO DO THAT.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT AS WELL.

THINK MUCH AS WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN LIVINGSTON, I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW AND THE LETTER OF THE LAW ARE AT ODDS.

AND I THINK THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.

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THE SPIRIT PROVIDES FOR AN EXPEDIENT ELECTION EXPEDIENT ELECTION FOR A KNOWN VACATED SEAT, WHILE THE LETTER SAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE WITHIN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT AND THE LETTER THAT ARE AT ODDS FOR ME, I TEND TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

AND IN THAT LIGHT, I WOULD SUPPORT HAVING THE ELECTION IN JANUARY.

I'M NOT THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HAS CAUSED THIS ISSUE.

OH, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL AN UNFUNDED MANDATE RIGHT? FROM OUR OUR WONDERFUL STATE GOVERNMENT.

AND IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

ENOUGH SAID.

WELL, TODAY IS DECEMBER 7TH, 80TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR DAY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY LIVES IN INFAMY AS A VETERAN, I RAISE MY RIGHT HAND AND SWORE TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.

AND EVEN WHEN YOU LEAVE THE SERVICE AND TAKE OFF THE UNIFORM THAT OATH STILL HOLDS.

AS A COUNCILMAN, I STOOD RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM AND ALSO RAISED MY RIGHT HAND AND SAID I WOULD UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AS WELL AS THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF FRISCO.

SO AS COMPELLING AS IT IS AND AS SEEMINGLY OBVIOUS AS A MAY ELECTION WOULD BE, I TOO FIND MYSELF IN THE POSITION WHERE I MUST AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND SOMEONE WHO'S TAKEN THAT OATH, UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ACTION.

GOODNESS, IT'S A FUN NIGHT.

YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH TWO OF US NOT SAYING ANYTHING AT ALL.

OH NO, I LISTEN.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'M A I'M A RULE FOLLOWER AND IT MAKES ME EXTREMELY ANXIOUS TO NOT FOLLOW RULES OR TO EVEN DANCE ON PLACES THAT I'M UNCERTAIN OF.

BUT I THINK SOME RULES ARE SO IMPORTANT IN A PROCESS OF DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU ELECTED ME TO DO.

AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE DATES AND WHEN I LAID OUT THE CALENDAR AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE DATES AND I AND I LITERALLY SAT DOWN AND STARTED COUNTING WEEKS, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EARLY VOTING START JANUARY 12TH, WHICH IS WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE TWO TO THREE WEEKS IN JANUARY THAT WE'RE HAVING ELECTION.

WE'RE GOING TO THEN HAVE TWO TO THREE WEEKS IN FEBRUARY FOR THE PRIMARY THAT'S ON MARCH 1ST THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IF WE HAVE A RUNOFF FROM THIS ELECTION, WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL FOR THESE TYPES OF SEATS.

THAT'S TWO MORE WEEKS IN MARCH THAT WE'LL BE GOING TO THE POLLS.

AND THEN IF THE PRIMARY HAS A RUNOFF, WHICH IS ALSO BEEN VERY TYPICAL LATELY, THEN IN APRIL, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK FOR TWO WEEKS AND THEN FOR THE MAY ELECTION THAT WE'VE GOT ON MAY 7TH.

WE'VE ALSO GOT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS IN APRIL.

AND SO AND THEN IF THERE'S A RUNOFF FOR THAT, THEN WE'VE GOT TWO WEEKS MORE GOING INTO JUNE.

SO THAT BASICALLY MEANS FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, EVERY TWO TO THREE WEEKS, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE POLLS.

WE DID THIS ONCE BEFORE IN 2016 AND I HAPPEN TO BE STANDING AT THE POLLS THE ENTIRE TIME.

AND SO DID YOU AND SO DID BILL.

AND WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

WE HEARD IN TEXT MESSAGES, WE HEARD IN PHONE CALLS AND WE HEARD IN EMAILS.

DON'T EVER DO THIS AGAIN.

IT DILUTES THE PROCESS.

IT CREATES VOTER FATIGUE.

IT IS SO CONFUSING FOR THE VOTER BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE KNOCKING ON DOORS, WHEN YOU'RE STANDING AT THE POLLS, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHO'S ON THE BALLOT UNTIL THEY WALK UP, NOW.

SOME OF YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, BE MORE EDUCATED THAN THAT.

BUT FOR THE AVERAGE EVERYDAY VOTER, THAT'S JUST GOING TO WORK.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHY IT'S ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT DAYS.

AND SO.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES, AND AGAIN, MY ANXIETY LEVEL SCREAMS AND NOT FOLLOWING THE LINE IN THE LETTER, BUT RUSHING TO JANUARY 29TH, I FEEL IS A DISSERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

AND SO I MAY LOSE THIS VOTE TONIGHT.

BUT WHEN I VOTE NO, IT'LL BE BECAUSE OF MY CONSCIENCE OF SAYING THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS, AND I DON'T BELIEVE I'M IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION THERE.

I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S WORTH CHALLENGING AND WORTH STANDING UP FOR.

AND SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION OF MY COLLEAGUES, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO STAND IN THE PLACE OF NO ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FRISCO.

LET'S START OFF WITH AGREEING WITH SHONA, I THINK IT'S TERRIBLE, IT'S ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE TO HAVE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS SHORT OF TIME PERIOD, AND I THINK THE COSTS FROM THE COUNTIES ON THIS ARE EXORBITANT AS WELL.

I THINK THE LAST TIME WE HAD A RUNOFF ELECTION, I THINK WE WERE ALL ESTIMATING IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE 60 OR $80000, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS HIGH AND HAVE IT COME BACK

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AT OVER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

IT'S IS JUST ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

AS SHONA MENTIONED, SHE AND I AND JOHN HAVE SAT THROUGH 2016 AND 2017 AND AND LITERALLY THE CRAZINESS THAT ENSUED WITH ALL SORTS OF SPECIAL ELECTIONS AND RUNOFFS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND I GOT THE SAME COMMENTS, OF RESIDENTS BEING CONFUSED, OH, WHAT AM I GOING TO THE POLLS TODAY OR AM I VOTING FOR YOU TODAY OR AM I VOTING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE? THAT SAID, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME BECAUSE I DEBATED THIS LITERALLY UP UNTIL RIGHT NOW, AND JOHN SAID SOMETHING.

HE SAID I'VE RAISED MY HAND AND I TOOK AN OATH.

AND RIGHT NOW, AS MUCH AS I CANNOT STAND HAVING THIS ELECTION IN JANUARY, I TOOK THE SAME OATH.

AND FOR ME, IF I LOOK AT IT IN THOSE TERMS, I HAVE TO ACCEPT THE JANUARY NUMBER.

ALL OF THE DATES, ALL THAT, EVERYTHING WORKS OUT TO FOLLOW THAT.

AND I DON'T LIKE IT.

AND I THINK OUR LEGISLATORS, OUR LEGISLATORS, SHOULD CHANGE IT.

I THINK THEY SHOULD ALLOW US SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND GIVE US THAT LOCAL CONTROL BACK TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THIS IN MAY WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS LIKE THIS.

BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, I'M GOING TO ABIDE BY THAT OATH AND I'LL SUPPORT JANUARY.

MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIFTY ONE.

DAN.

SECOND BY JOHN ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT WILL MOVE US INTO ITEM 52 CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE

OPPOSE.

NAY.

MOTION PASSES FIVE ONE.

[52. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance ordering a Special Election to be administered by the Collin County Election Administrator and the Denton County Election Administrator on Saturday, January 29, 2022 for the purpose of filling a vacancy in the office of City Council, Place No. 5, resulting from the resignation of the current holder of Place No. 5; designating Early Voting polling places and hours; designating Election Day polling places and hours; designating filing deadlines; ordering notices of election to be given as prescribed by law in connection with such election; providing for the appointment of Election Judges; authorizing the Mayor and City Secretary to take all actions necessary to comply with applicable election laws; and providing a savings/repealing clause, severability clause, and an effective date. (CSO/KM)]

ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE COLLIN COUNTY ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR AND THE DENTON COUNTY ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR, ON SATURDAY, JANUARY 29, 2022 FOR THE PURPOSE OF FILLING A VACANCY IN THE OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL PLACE NUMBER FIVE, RESULTING FROM THE RESIGNATION OF THE CURRENT HOLDER OF PLACE NUMBER FIVE, DESIGNATING EARLY VOTING POLLING PLACES AND HOURS.

DESIGNATING ELECTION DAY POLLING PLACES AND HOURS.

DESIGNATING FILING DEADLINES, ORDERING NOTICES OF ELECTION TO BE GIVEN AS PRESCRIBED BY LAW IN CONNECTION WITH SUCH ELECTION.

PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF ELECTION JUDGES AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY SECRETARY TO TAKE ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE ELECTION LAWS AND PROVIDING A SAVINGS REPEALING CLAUSE, SEVERABILITY CALLS AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS CHRIS.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON THIS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A GOOD ONE.

I THINK FOR ME TO KIND OF OUTLINE THE DATES JUST FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW.

SO WHAT THIS WILL MEAN IS THAT FILING FOR A PLACE IN THE BALLOT WILL BE WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8TH FROM EIGHT A.M.

THROUGH MONDAY, DECEMBER 20TH AT FIVE P.M..

THE DRAWING FOR THE PLACE IN THE BALLOT WILL BE TUESDAY, DECEMBER 21ST AT 4:00 P.M.

AND RIGHT HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE FOR THIS ELECTION WILL BE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 30TH.

THE LAST DAY TO RECEIVE AN APPLICATION FOR THE BALLOT BY MAIL WILL BE TUESDAY, JANUARY 18TH 2022.

EARLY VOTING WOULD BEGIN WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 12TH 2022 THROUGH TUESDAY, JANUARY 25TH 2022 AND ELECTION DAY IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, JANUARY 29, 2022.

WITH THAT COUNCIL? BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, MY VOTE IN THIS WILL BE JUST IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE, JUST SO THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT DISAGREEING WITH THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, IT'S JUST TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM.

MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIFTY TWO.

AND SECOND.

SECOND BY BRIAN, ALL IN FAVOR.

A MOTION PASSES FIVE ONE.

OPPOSE.

NAY.

THAT MOVES US TO ITEM FIFTY THREE.

[53. Consider and act upon adoption of a Resolution designating an Official Newspaper for the publication of ordinances, notices, and other matters in compliance with the City of Frisco Home Rule Charter. (CSO/JD)]

CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION DESIGNATED AN OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER FOR THE PUBLICATION OF ORDINANCES, NOTICES AND OTHER MATTERS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF FRISCO HOME RULE CHARTER, COUNCIL.

ITEM FIFTY FOUR IS CONSIDER AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION TO CAST A BALLOT,

[54. Consider and act upon adoption of a Resolution to cast a ballot electing a member to the Collin Central Appraisal District Board of Directors for a term of two (2) years beginning January 1, 2022. (CSO/KM)]

ELECTING A MEMBER OF THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR A TERM OF TWO YEARS BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST 2022.

OK, SO WE RECEIVED A BALLOT FROM THE COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND ON THAT BALLOT IS YOUR NOMINEE THAT YOU NOMINATED BACK IN, I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS RON CARLISLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR POSITION.

AND SO YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE TO CAST YOUR VOTES FOR MR. CARLISLE OR YOU CAN CAST YOUR VOTES FOR ANOTHER MEMBER OR SPLIT THEM AMONG THE MEMBERS THERE THAT ARE ON YOUR BALLOT.

MOVE TO CAST ALL BALLOTS FOR RON CARLISLE.

MOTION BY JOHN, SECOND BY BILL ALL IN FAVOR.