Apr 06, 2021 City Council

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

SO I WAS DOWN THERE TO TESTIFY ON A BILL THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE PATTERSON HAS FILED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WHICH IS TO ALLOW THE CITY OF FRISCO TO ACCESS THE BATTERY RECYCLING FEE FUND THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS OFFERS.

MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT THERE'S A TAX WHEN YOU BUY BATTERIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND FRISCO HAPPENED TO HAVE ONLY THE ONLY BATTERY RECYCLING PLANT IN THE

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STATE.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS LOGICAL THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE CLEANUP.

AND OUR REPRESENTATIVE AGREED.

AND SO HE'S BEEN ADVOCATING ON BEHALF, HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.

AND SO I WAS DOWN THERE ALONG WITH BEN BERZINA AND MARLA AS WELL, ON A DIFFERENT VISIT FRISCO ISSUE.

AND THOSE ARE LONG DAYS.

WE MISSED THE LAST FLIGHT HOME.

WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DRIVE HOME THAT NIGHT, BUT IT WAS WELL WORTH IT.

BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE'LL BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY RECEIVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUNDS TO HELP OUR CITIZENS.

SO IT'S TIME WELL SPENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE SHARING IN THAT LOAD, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THIS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M THANKFUL THAT SOMEONE LIKE SHONA AND WILL CERTAINLY AS WELL THAT ACTUALLY LIKES THAT KIND OF STUFF BECAUSE THEY DO A HEAVY LIFT FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO AUSTIN.

SO I APPRECIATE THEM FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

WE ARE SLIGHTLY NERDY THAT WAY.

ANY OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES? OK, PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE CITIZEN INPUT IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO

[CITIZEN INPUT (to begin approximately at 7:30 p.m.)]

SPEAK ON CITIZEN INPUT .

I HAVE ONE CARD THAT'S BEEN TURNED IN FROM LAURA HUNTER.

MS. HUNTER, AS YOU COME FORWARD, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, STATING YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AT THE PODIUM AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK AND YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES, GO AHEAD MIC] OK.

MY NAME IS LAURA HUNTER.

ADDRESS IS 1772 MUSTANG TRAIL IN THE TRAILS OF WEST FRISCO SUBDIVISION.

I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU VERY MUCH.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL, I SENT AN EMAIL TO EACH OF YOU LAST WEEK, INCLUDING PICTURES OF THE INSUFFICIENT THOROUGHFARE SCREENING THAT IS IMPACTING MY PROPERTY.

MY PROPERTY BACKS TO THE TRAILS PARKWAY.

I'M GETTING CRAZY LOOKS, DID Y'ALL NOT RECEIVE THAT EMAIL.

OK, MY HOME BACKS UP TO THE TRAILS PARKWAY, WHICH IS A THOROUGHFARE.

THIS ORDEAL STARTED IN 2018 WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT REQUIRED THAT THE EASTERN RED CEDAR'S BE CUT BACK TO THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK.

THAT ABRUPT AND DRASTIC CUTTING CAUSED ME TO IMMEDIATELY LOSE ALL SCREENING TO MY PROPERTY.

NOW AS I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL VERY AWARE, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE ADOPTED THOROUGHFARE SCREENING STANDARDS IN JUNE OF 2000.

NOW, GIVEN THE FINAL PLAT FOR MY PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED DECEMBER 5TH, 2003, AND MY PLAT STATES I WILL QUOTE IT STATES IT IS SUBJECT TO ALL PLATTING ORDINANCES, RULES, REGULATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS OF THE CITY OF FRISCO, TEXAS.

SO ACCORDING TO THE WORDING ON THE FINAL PLAT, MY HOME SHOULD INDEED RECEIVE THE ORDINANCE AND BE QUALIFIED FOR THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE YEAR 2000.

AND IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE MANY RULES STATED IN THAT DO APPLY TO MY PROPERTY AS STATED IN THE FINAL PLAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR CITY PLANNER HAS BEEN INSISTENT THAT STANDARDS ON THE 19 MENARY FLAT ARE SUPERIOR TO MY FINAL PLAT.

SO PER GUIDANCE FROM CITY OF FRISCO EMPLOYEES THE HOA PLANTED SHRUBS ACCORDING TO 1999 STANDARDS, WHICH PROVIDE MINIMAL COVERAGE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY OF FRISCO STAFF HAS ALREADY APPROVED AND SIGNED OFF ON THAT WORK, EVEN THOUGH THE PLANTINGS DO NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE THOROUGHFARE SCREENING AT ALL.

LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I HAVE FOR YOU.

LET'S SEE, OH, ADDITIONALLY STATED IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE FOR A PHASE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MINE IS, IT STATES THAT IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE APPLIED ACCORDING TO WHEN

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PLATTED AREAS ARE APPROVED AND CONSTRUCTED.

GIVEN MY AREA WAS NOT PLATTED OR APPROVED UNTIL 2003, THE NEW ADOPTION IN 2000 SHOULD INDEED APPLY TO MY THOROUGHFARE SCREENING.

BUT YET, FOR SOME REASON, THE CITY PLANNER CONTINUED TO STATE THAT A FINAL PLAT FOR MY PHRASE, IS NOT INFERIOR.

SO AFTER SEEKING LEGAL COUNSEL SINCE I HAVE BEEN BATTLING THIS SINCE 2008, IT WAS MADE CLEAR TO ME THAT THE LANGUAGE ON THE FINAL PLAT IS STATED IN SUCH A WAY TO INCORPORATE ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS FILED.

THEREFORE, THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED IN 2000 DO APPLIED TO MY PROPERTY AND SHOULD ADHERE TO THE GUIDANCE.

THE SHRUBS SHOULD BE SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND THEY SHOULD BE A SOLID SCREEN, WHICH THEY ARE NOT, AND IF THE HOA CANNOT PROVIDE A SOLID SCREEN THAN A BRICK WALL OR A WOODEN FENCE SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE SPACE TO PROVIDE PROPER THOROUGHFARE SCREENING.

I'M ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL ENFORCE THESE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE CREATED SO THAT MY HOME AND THE OTHER 27 HOMES IN THE TRIALS PARKWAY ARE PROPERLY PROTECTED.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? GENERAL NATE IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE TO AGENDA ITEM.

SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT WE DID RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL FORWARDED TO CITY STAFF AND I THINK THEY CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME EXTRA TIME MEET WITH JOHN LETTELLEIR AND HENRY HILL.

BUT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE UP HERE, I KNOW YOU KIND OF TOOK US THROUGH HISTORY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT SETTING ALL THAT ASIDE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? WHAT WOULD AS AN OUTCOME IF WE COULD GET A ONE MINUTE TO JUST.

YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT OF MATERIAL THERE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? I WOULD LIKE PROPER PROTECTION FROM THE THOROUGHFARE, RATHER.

A WOODEN FENCE OR A BRICK WALL? A WOODEN FENCE WOULD BE IDEAL AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CREATED AT THE TIME.

SIX FOOT.

GREAT.

AND EVERY TIME I REACH OUT TO Y'ALL JUST WE GO ROUND AND ROUND IN CIRCLES AND CIRCLES.

SO I'LL JOIN YOU.

MRS. HUNTER, THANK YOU FOR COMING UP HERE.

OH YES THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

SO TO FINISH UP WITH LAURA, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REALLY HAVE DIALOGING DURING CITIZEN INPUT, BUT WE CAN RECEIVE INFORMATION.

WE DO HAVE YOUR EMAIL NOW FOR SOME REASON.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVERYONE.

ONLY ONE OF YOUR PICTURES CAME THROUGH ON MY EMAIL.

THERE MAY HAVE BEEN TOO MANY, SO YOU MAY NEED TO RESEND THAT.

BUT I DO KNOW STAFF HAS GIVEN US SOME PRELIMINARY INFORMATION ON THIS AND REGARDING VESTED RIGHTS AND HOW THAT WORKS.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS HAVE THEM KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH US AS FAR AS IF THERE'S ANY OPTIONS THE CITY HAS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN INPUT? OK, THAT WILL MOVE US INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS PLACED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE IN NATURE AND ARE CONSIDERED NON-CONTROVERSIAL, THE CONSENT AGENDA IT CAN BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION.

MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO REMOVE ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IN SEPARATE ACTION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT AND MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

COUNCIL WE HAVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 36.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 11-36.

SECOND.

MOTIONED BY BILL, SECOND BY SHONA, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES FIVE 0.

MR. KEATING HAS STEPPED OUT AT THE MOMENT, THAT WILL MOVE US TO THE LEGISLATIVE

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AGENDA.

THESE ITEMS MAY LEGALLY REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION, BUT THE COUNCIL POLICY SHOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY.

THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA CAN BE ACTED UPON AND ONE MOTION THE CONCURRENCE OF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED TO REMOVE ANY ITEM FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VOTE NAY ON ANY ITEM WITHOUT COMMENT AND MAY SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

WE HAVE ITEMS 37-42.

I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 37-42 MOTIONED BY WILL SECONDED BY BILL.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

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MR. MAYOR, CAN I GET A 60 SECOND PAUSE WHERE I CAN GO RETRIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MR KEATING FOR THESE UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS.

ALMOST TO ITEM, 43, IS A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST TO REZONE 239.9

[43. Public Hearing: A request to rezone 239.9± acres on the southeast corner of Legacy Drive and PGA Parkway from Agricultural to Planned Development-Office-2/Retail/Residential, to amend the Zoning Ordinance (Ordinance No. 11-04-09, as amended), and to consider to direct Staff to prepare an Ordinance of the same. Zoned Agricultural. Neighborhood #53. Zoning Case No. Z19-0019. Applicant: Jackson Walker LLP. (Development Services/JH)]

ACRES ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PGA PARKWAY, FROM AGRICULTURAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OFFICE TO RETAIL RESIDENTIAL TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 11-04-09 AS AMENDED AT TO CONSIDER STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE OF THE SAME ZONED AGRICULTURAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD.

NUMBER 53 ZONING CASE NUMBER Z19-0019 APPLICANT JACKSON WALKER LLP, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS A MUCH INVOLVED ZONING CASE, SO I'M GOING TO COVER THE HIGHLIGHTS.

WE DID HAVE A WORK SESSION BACK IN AUGUST TO DISCUSS SEVERAL KEY POINTS AND THOSE POINTS WERE HAVING A ZONING EXHIBIT WITH THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THEY HEARD FROM YOU LOUDLY, AND THEY HAVE INCLUDED THAT.

SO WITHIN THIS ZONING EXHIBIT, THERE'S THREE SUB DISTRICTS.

YOU HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT NORTH OF PJ PARKWAY.

YOU HAVE THE MIXED USE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SOUTHWEST OR SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY AND PGA PARKWAY AND THEN THE URBAN COMMUNITY.

SO I'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFIC USES LATER.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP WAS A FLOOD STUDY.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER WOODARD SPOKE UP THAT AS WE DO THESE ZONING CASES, WE DO ASK FOR A FLOOD STUDY.

SO WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO EVALUATE THE REQUEST.

FROM THAT.

WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE URBAN COMMUNITY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON THE FLOOD STUDY AND THEN THIS TILL LINE HERE.

ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS ON THIS SIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A FLOOD STUDY AT THAT TIME BECAUSE EITHER OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WILL IMPACT THE FLOOD STUDY.

THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT, THE FLOOD PLAIN IS ACROSS THE STREET OF MAYHARD.

SO WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WHICH INVOLVED ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE APPLICANT.

SO WE HAVE THAT COVERED.

THIRD ITEM WAS CLIMATE CONTROLLED CORRIDOR'S.

30 PERCENT OF THE UNITS BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

THE OTHER ONES BE OPEN AIR ON LANE USES.

AND THE MAIN THING THAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED WAS THE ABILITY TO DO COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT IN THE ENTERTAINMENT.

AND THE EXAMPLE WOULD BE A DRIVING RANGE.

SO THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY.

NORMALLY IT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

SO THAT IS WRITTEN IN THERE AS A PERMITTED USE.

THE NEXT THING WAS BILLING HEIGHT SO ALONG LEGACY.

COUNCIL WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE A SKYLINE, ALONG LEGACY SINCE IT'S ACROSS FROM THE PGA.

SO WHAT WAS AGREED TO IS THAT THERE BE AT LEAST TWO BUILDINGS, A MINIMUM OF FIVE STORIES, THREE BUILDINGS, A MINIMUM OF SIX STORIES.

ALL OTHER BUILDINGS WOULD BE SEVEN STORES MINIMUM.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY RESIDENTIAL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF SEVEN STORY'S.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TYPE ONE, TYPE TWO CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS CONCRETE AND STEEL.

WE ALSO MADE IT CLEAR, TALKING WITH THE OUTCOME AND HAVING THE EDC, RON PATTERSON, JASON FORD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE EDC CAN ENCOURAGE CONVERSATIONS WITH FUTURE TENANTS ABOUT GETTING THEM TO LOCATE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRIME LOCATION FOR CORPORATIONS.

ALSO WITHIN THIS SHADED AREA IS BILL TWO LINE SO AS WE WAS GOING THROUGH THIS.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOING GET THE BILLING HEIGHTS ALONG THIS AREA.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN BETWEEN LEGACY DRIVE AND THE INTERNAL ROAD DID NOT COMPROMISE THE TALLER BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.

AND FOR AN EXAMPLE, MAYBE SOMEBODY PUT IN LIKE A ONE STORY BUILDING AND THEN THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO DO A TALLER BUILDING.

SO WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

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SO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO, THE TALLER BUILDING FIRST AND THEN BUILDING IS BEHIND THAT AND DRAWING PERPENDICULAR LINES.

YOU CAN DO ONE STORY, TWO STORIES, LOWER HEIGHT, BUT WE'RE PLACED FOCUS TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IN THE BUILDING HEIGHTS.

ALONG LEGACY ALSO WITHIN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, SINCE IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE OMNI, THAT ONE IS.

AND WE AGREE THAT THIS IS PRIMARILY THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA.

SO AND THIS YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA, THEY CAN DO ONE STORY, BUILDINGS, IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SECOND, THEY DO ROOFTOP DECKS.

SO MAYOR THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE BROUGHT UP.

BUT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF YOU DID ONE STORY BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE THIS IS ACROSS FROM THE URBAN PARK HERE, IT PROVIDED A GREAT VIEWING OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE THIS UPBEAT KIND OF SHOW, HOW THE GRAND PROMENADE GOES BEHIND THE RESORT AND CONNECTS TO THIS PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT ABOUT IN THIS LOCATION.

AND THAT IS HAPPENING.

SO WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME.

AND SO WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT PLANS COME IN WE'LL WORK ON THAT, ON FURTHER DETAILS, BUT THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN AND MAKING THAT CONNECTION.

BUT THIS AREA IS THEY CALL THAT THE SPINE ROAD WHERE MOST OF THE ACTIVITY WILL TAKE PLACE AND TURN AWAY.

NOW TO THE BIGGER QUESTION THAT WAS COMING UP HAS TO DO WITH DENSITY AND SO JUST BEAR WITH ME ON THIS.

SO WHEN THEY STARTED THIS DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS, BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR ZONING APPLICATION, WE WERE WORKING OFF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AT THAT TIME, WHICH SHOWED URBAN CENTER LIKE COUNCIL APPROVAL BY ORDINANCE LAST MONTH CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO SUBURBAN REGIONAL.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS URBAN CENTER ALLOWS 30 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

THE SUBURBAN REGIONAL REGIONAL CENTER ALLOWS 35 PERCENT.

SO DIFFERENCE OF 476 UNITS.

I TOLD THE APPLICANT WOULD, WE WOULD STAND BEHIND THE URBAN CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON ALONG ALL THIS TIME.

SO I FELT IT WAS RIGHT.

SO THAT WAS A THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

NOW WITH THE DENSITY THERE IS A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF URBAN LIVING IN MIXED USE OR MULTIPLEX AND MULTIPLEX WAS FIRST INTRODUCED IN FIELDS AND ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THE BUILDING WITH 24 RESIDENTIAL UNITS OR LESS THE OTHER ONES, THE URBAN LIVING.

BUT THAT'S CAPPED AT 2,434 UNITS AND YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY MORE THAN THAT.

THE OTHER 422 UNITS WOULD BE MADE UP OF EITHER ALL COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL AGAIN TO THAT.

A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS LATER.

[INAUDIBLE] HOME DUPLEX OR TOWNHOMES.

BUT THAT EXTRA 422 IS LIMITED TO THAT TO THOSE AREAS.

SO IN THIS URBAN COMMUNITY, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY CAN DO THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL.

SO ON THE URBAN [INAUDIBLE], THEY COULD DO BY RIGHT.

422 UNITS UP FRONT IF THEY DID THAT.

AND THIS TWO ACRE PARK WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED AS WELL AS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS FLOODPLAIN.

THEY COULD DO 422 UNITS OVER IN THE MIXED USE URBAN.

AGAIN LIMITED TO 422 AND THERE'S SOME OPEN SPACE CRITERIUM HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT ON THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL IF THEY BUILT URBAN LIVING UNITS HERE.

THEY DO NOT BUILD ANY OF THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S ALL OR NOTHING.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY WANT TO GET THEIR DENSITY AND THIS DENSITY.

IT COMES OUT TO EIGHT UNITS TO THE ACRE.

SO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID IN THE SUBURBAN REGIONAL.

SO YOU HAVE PRIMARY ROADS AND YOU HAVE SECONDARY ROADS, BUT YOU HAVEN'T READ IS IS A PRIMARY ROAD TRYING TO GIVE IT THAT, A SINGLE FAMILY LOOK.

SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE STREET TREES.

IT'S PARALLEL PARKING IS NOT HEAD IN PARKING OR ANGLED PARKING THAT I SHOWED ALL OF YOU BACK AT THE WORK SESSION IN JANUARY THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THESE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PROJECTS.

ALSO INCLUDED IS FOR A MINIMUM OF FOUR BUILDING TYPES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THEY DO ANY CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY.

ALSO ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS AND SO FORTH.

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AND WHAT THESE NUMBERS REPRESENT IS WE WANT TO AVOID THE MONOTONY, WORK WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS LOOKING THE SAME.

SO GIVE THEM MORE OF A SINGLE FAMILY FLAIR.

SO THIS WILL BE ONE STYLE THAT WILL BE ANOTHER STYLE.

THESE TWO CAN BE THE SAME BECAUSE THEY'RE SIMILAR THEY'RE KIND OF FACING EACH OTHER WITH OPENS WITH THEIR PERSONAL COURTYARD SPACE.

BUT THIS GIVES THEM AN IDEA ABOUT GETTING A DIFFERENT PRODUCT TO THEM.

BECAUSE THIS IS GOING THE WRONG WAY.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID, WHERE YOU GOT ROGERS RIGHT UP ON THE FAR LANE, YOU GOT FIRE LANE MARCH AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE PORCHES THAT MEET THE MINIMUM DEPTH.

SO WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE AND WORK WITH THE ALP, WE FEEL WE DID A BETTER PRODUCT OUT OF THIS.

AND THEN FOUR ADDITIONAL UNITS GOT 422 THAT CAN BE BUILT ON THE URBAN COMMUNITY.

422 UNITS THAT CAN BE BUILT IN THE MIXED-USE, ANYTHING BEYOND THAT IS AN EARN UP.

SO IT'S ONE UNIT FOR OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THAT IS BASED ON CLASS A OFFICE SPACE THAT'S BASED ON QUALITY RETAIL, HOSPITALITY, ENTERTAINMENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE.

SO THEY CAN'T GO OUT AND DO THE ALL THE 2,400 UNITS AFTER THAT 844 UNITS, THEY HAVE TO DO EARN UPS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

HOW MANY DID THEY IN ESSENCE GET AND HOW MANY HAVE TO COME WITH THAT COMMERCIAL BUILD OUT? OK, SO WHAT THEY GET UP FRONT, THEY GET LIKE 422 UNITS IN THE URBAN COMMUNITY, ANOTHER 422 UNITS IN THE MIXED USE AREA.

AND THEN ANYTHING AFTER THAT, IT'S AN EARN UP.

OVER A THOUSAND FEET.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO VERY SIMILAR TO FIELDS ON THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED OUT WITH PARKS, AND THE OUTCOME IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE TRAILS CONNECTION NOT ONLY TO THE FIELDS, BUT TO THE PGA AS WELL AS TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER THAT COMES OUT TO BE TO THE NORTHEAST.

SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

WHILE YOU'RE ON THIS PAGE, CAN YOU TURN TO THE TIMING AND THE BUILDING OF THOSE TRAILS THROUGH THE CREEK CORRIDORS.

OK, SO HERE WE GO.

SO THE FLOOD PLAIN START WITH THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO THIS PORTION OF THE FLOOD PLAIN WILL BE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE.

AND WHAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CREEK WILL BE FUTURE PARK PROPERTY AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE WORKING ON A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

AND SO THOSE TRAILS IN THOSE AREAS WILL BE WORKED OUT DURING THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ABOUT THE TIMING.

BUT THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE INTERNAL, THOSE WILL BE HAPPENING AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO PUBLIC HEARINGS IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? CLAY ROBY, MY ADDRESS IS 40145 TRAVIS, DALLAS, TEXAS 75204.

MAYOR CHENEY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LINK APPLICATION.

AS I MENTIONED, MY NAME IS CLAY ROBY.

I'M A MANAGING DIRECTOR AT STILLWATER CAPITAL, ONE OF THE INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS OF THE PROPERTY HERE.

I'D LIKE TO START BRIEFLY, FRANKLY, JUST WITH A WORD OF GRATITUDE.

AS EVERYBODY UP ON THE PANEL HERE KNOWS WE COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN HERE WITHOUT A TON OF WORK AND GETTING JUST TO THIS POINT, FRANKLY, WHEN MY PARTNERS AND I FIRST FLEW OUT TO FLORIDA AND THIS WAS IN 2017 TO MEET WITH PETE BEVACQUA, WHO WAS THE CEO OF THE PGA OF AMERICA AT THAT TIME, WE WERE PITCHING HIM ON RELOCATING HIS ENTIRE ORGANIZATION FROM WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA, TO FRISCO, TEXAS.

AND AT THE TIME THAT PRESENTATION WAS MADE, WE HAD NO IDEA IF IT WOULD ACTUALLY COME TO FRUITION.

AND AFTER A LOT OF HARD WORK, BASED LARGELY IN PART BY THE CITY AND NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT FISD AND CDC AND EDC AND OTHERS, WE WERE ALL ABLE TOGETHER TO

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SUCCESSFULLY RECRUIT THEM TO RELOCATE THEIR HEADQUARTERS TO PGA FRISCO.

AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS I'M PROUD TO SAY THE GOLF COURSE LOOKS ESSENTIALLY DONE TODAY.

WE'RE MOVING OVER INTO THE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT AS WE SPEAK, AND I THINK WE WOULD ALL CELEBRATE.

THAT IS A PHENOMENAL WIN FOR THE CITY OF FRISCO AND FOR NORTH TEXAS, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS HERE FOR STILLWATER.

WE'RE EXCITED AS THAT PROJECT CONTINUES TO BUILD MOMENTUM.

AND WE WORK TOWARDS THE OPENING OF THOSE FACILITIES IN THE HOSTING OF OUR FIRST PGA SENIORS EVENT IN 2023, WE'VE NOW BEEN ABLE TO FOCUS MORE AND MORE ON THE LINK, WHICH IS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, A MANIFESTATION OF AN ORIGINAL VISION WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST PITCHED THE PROJECT OVERALL.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS TO GET HERE.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS WITH THEIR TIME AND WORKING THROUGH THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ALMOST 18 MONTHS NOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD, AS I MENTIONED, TO GET ALL THE WAY TO THIS POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME AND COMMITMENT UP UNTIL NOW AND HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR DRILL DOWN INTO ANY PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN.

WE MAY HAVE FURTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AFTER WE GET ALL OF THE PUBLIC INPUT, DOES ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

TWO HUNDRED, 240 ACRES, IS THAT RIGHT? ON THE TOTAL SITE.

AND SO NOW THAT INCLUDES GROSS ACREAGE.

SO WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE CENTRAL LINE OF THE ROADWAY.

SO THE FORMULA THIS COUNCIL KIND OF PUT IN PLACE A FEW YEARS AGO TO KIND OF RESTRICT DENSITY OF MULTIFAMILY.

IF I'M TRYING TO DO THAT MATH HERE, YOU TAKE THE 240 ACRES BY THE 30 PERCENT.

WELL, NO, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID, WE EXCLUDE THE WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT ACREAGE WE EXCLUDED RIGHT AWAY.

THAT'S FOUR LANES DIVIDED OR LARGER.

SO THAT INCLUDES LEGACY AND P.J.

PARKWAY.

THAT INCLUDES THE FLOODPLAIN.

SO THE NET ACREAGE THAT YOU HAVE IS 173 ACRES.

EVEN THOUGH THE FLOODPLAIN IS GOING TO BE A [INAUDIBLE], WE DON'T WE DON'T GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DO GET CREDIT ON IS THE OPEN SPACE.

AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT BY THE 30 PERCENT, BY THE 55, AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE SPEAKERS].

BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY RESTRICTING IT EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT BY SUBDIVIDING SOME OF THOSE UNITS INTO THIS COTTAGE PRODUCT THAT WELL, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS REMAINS UNCHANGED.

BUT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE FORMULA, YOU COME OUT WITH A 2800 UNITS.

THEY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHTS IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO THIS COTTAGE PRODUCT, TO DO 2854 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

BUT IF THEY WANT TO DO THE COTTAGE PRODUCT, THAT'S ELIMINATING, YOU NO, SO WHAT'S IN THE PD OF THE URBAN LIVING, THEY COULD ONLY DO 2434, THE OTHER.

422 UNITS IS LIMITED TO COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL.

BUT AGAIN, IF THEY DID URBAN LIVING IN THE URBAN COMMUNITY, THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL THEN THOSE OTHER 422 UNITS IS LIMITED TO PATTY [INAUDIBLE] DUPLEX AND TOWNHOMES.

OK, SO THE POLICY WE HAD IN PLACE, I KNOW THIS WAS ONE BIG NEGOTIATION, SO WE WEREN'T NEGOTIATING ONE POINT AT A TIME BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF US AS WELL, BUT THEY REDUCED FROM 2854 ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER 400 UNITS.

BUT WE GAVE THEM OTHER DENSE UNITS THAT ARE LESS THAN DENSE THAN A MULTIFAMILY.

THE KEY THING HERE WAS GETTING A MIXTURE PRODUCT ON THE PROPERTY.

OK, AND I KNOW ONE BIG ASK, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT WE HAD IS THAT THIS IS THIS HIGHLIGHTED PORTION OF LEGACY DRIVE IS IN OUR, IN MY OPINION, THE CITY'S MOST VALUABLE OFFICE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN UNOBSTRUCTED VIEWS OF THE GOLF COURSE.

AND SO PART OF OUR EDC TEAM AND AS A CITY, I KNOW YOU ALL WERE HESITANT TO COMMIT TO THOSE KIND OF STORIES BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF IT'S NOT A NATURAL LOCATION IS NOT OFF THE TOLLWAY.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, FURTHER INSET.

BUT I KNOW THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST SOME OF US, THAT THERE WAS A COMMITMENT TO GOING VERTICAL THERE.

BUT ONE THING THAT I WOULD ALSO ASK IS LIKE THIS WHOLE HOUR MENTIONED IS THIS WHOLE AREA IS DEVELOPING AS A REGION.

SO EACH PROPERTY IS WORKING TOGETHER.

AND I KNOW WHEN WE DID THE PGA PROPERTY, I THINK MANY OF US ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THERE'D BE MORE RETAIL ON THE ACTUAL HARD PROPERTY OF THE PGA AND THEY DETERMINED THEY SOLD US ON A VISION THAT THAT SHOULD BE MORE SPRAWLING ON THE ACTUAL SITE AND ALLOW THE ADJACENT

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USES, WHETHER IT'S THE LAKE, WHETHER IT'S FIELDS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, TO TRY TO PICK UP SOME OF THE LEASES.

I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF VERY VIGOROUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRAIL CONNECTIONS, AND SO I'M GLAD THAT THE CONNECTIVITY GOT THROUGH.

SO REALLY, ONCE YOU KIND OF GET OUT ON PROPERTY, I THINK THE INTERCHANGE AND THE CYCLE EFFECT THROUGH THE LAND ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED TO THE NORTH WILL ALL BE CONNECTED WHERE IT FEELS LIKE ONE ONE DISTRICT THAT'S REALLY BASED AROUND THE ASSET OF THE PGA AND THE RESORTS.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AS WE WORK THROUGH EACH DEVELOPMENT KIND OF ONE AT A TIME.

I KNOW YOU ALL KIND OF GOT PUT TO THE BACK A LITTLE BIT AND WE FOCUS ON GETTING THE MAIN ASSET DONE.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

BUT WITH THAT COUNCIL, I'LL TURN TO YOU FOR ONE OF THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE.

WELL, LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN OTHER RENDITIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY, OTHER IDEAS IN THE PAST BEFORE THE PGA CAME, WHEN WE'VE REALLY STRUGGLED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO DO AND WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS AREA, WHAT ARE THE DEMANDS OF A FUTURE RESIDENTS.

SO I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT WHAT GOES BACK AND FORTH.

YOU KNOW, THE THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THE IF YOU'RE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME TRAFFIC DENSITY AND APARTMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU STRUGGLE WITH.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOME OF THAT TONIGHT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF, YOU KNOW, MY THREE FAVORITE THINGS OF THE PHASING, WHICH WE'VE INCORPORATED HERE, THE UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH WE'VE ADJUSTED HERE, AS WELL AS THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY TOUCHED ON GREEN SPACE TOO MUCH, BUT THERE'S A QUESTION I ASKED LATER TODAY AND GOT THAT ANSWERED.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I'LL LET THE REST OF COUNCIL KIND OF ASK SOME QUESTIONS HERE IN MAY AND MAY CIRCLE BACK.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.

IT'S BETTER THAN SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

I THINK THIS IS THE RESULT OF LONG NEGOTIATIONS.

GIVE YOU A BETTER RESULT, AN OUTCOME.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL RESERVE FOR THE COMMENT AND WAIT TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I THINK IT WAS THAT THE WORK SESSION AND WAS IN AUGUST? AND WHEN IT CAME UP THEN I WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE WHEN WE APPROVED THE PJ PROPERTY, I THINK IT WAS WE WORKED HARD TO GET THE APARTMENTS DOWN TO 8900 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

8850 WE WORKED HARD FOR THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF PUTS A LOT OF APARTMENTS AND THAT'S A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY.

AND THAT WAS TO HELP BUILD OUT THE NORTHERN CORRIDOR AND ALL THE BENEFITS THAT WE SAW FROM THAT.

WHEN I DID THAT, I KIND OF FELT LIKE THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS WE NEEDED UP THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT.

SO ADDING 25 PERCENT MORE APARTMENTS IS HARD FOR ME.

SO I'M PROBABLY GOING I'M GOING TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE OF THE SAME OPINION.

I WAS BACK IN AUGUST OF 2020 THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH APARTMENTS WITH ALMOST 9000 UP THERE.

AND THESE DEVELOPMENTS, AS SOMEONE SAID, TO LIVE INDEPENDENTLY AND THERE'S A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY AROUND THIS, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE OFFICE TO THRIVE.

I JUST THINK AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO SAY ENOUGH.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE INSTEAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT? THIS SIZE? ALL OFFICE? MAYBE NOT ALL OFFICE.

I JUST I DON'T WANT ALMOST THREE THOUSAND MORE UNITS IN THAT PROPERTY.

AND IT'S NOT I MEAN, I'M KEEPING AN OPEN MIND AND LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT SPEAK, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT OTHER USES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? I JUST WANT TO SEE LESS DENSITY.

I MEAN, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER APARTMENTS, WHAT OTHER USES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? I'M NOT A DEVELOPER, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MORE ENTERTAINMENT, MORE PARKS, MORE.

I LOVE THE GOLF IDEA.

I DON'T MIND.

I MEAN, I LIKE THE SINGLE FAMILY RENTALS.

I JUST I'M LOOKING FOR LESS DENSITY.

AND I'M JUST NOT NOT A FAN OF ADDING 30 PERCENT MORE APARTMENTS TO THAT AREA.

SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

LIKE I SAID, I'LL LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUE SPEAK AND RESERVE TO MAKE MY FINAL DECISION AFTER THE ANOTHER SIX PEOPLE SPEAK.

JOHN, HOW MANY HOW MANY OF THOSE COTTAGES ARE THERE? IF THEY BUILD THE COTTAGES?

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THAT COMES AROUND 422.

AND THAT'S THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE 2800, CORRECT? YES.

SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.

ONE, I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO SEE STACKED MULTIFAMILY IN THAT LOWER RIGHT QUADRANT.

I ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE COTTAGE IDEA.

SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT MULTIFAMILY, THEY DON'T LIKE THE THREE AND FOUR STORIES, THEY DON'T LIKE THE URBAN LIVING, FOUR OR FIVE STORIES, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

WHAT I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IS THEY WANT MORE SINGLE FAMILY, THEY WANT THE AREAS AROUND THEM TO LOOK LIKE THE HOMES AROUND THEM.

SO TO ME, THOSE COTTAGES, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE TECHNICALLY MULTIFAMILY, ARE MORE APPEALING TO ME THAN HAVING ANOTHER 400 URBAN LIVING UNITS DOWN THERE.

I'M REALLY NOT SURE I CAN BUY INTO HAVING URBAN LIVING STACKED AND LIVING DOWN THAT CORNER, BUT I COULD MAYBE BE OK WITH COTTAGES.

I'M ALSO KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILD OUT OF THE TRAILS AND THE TIMING, AND I KNOW THAT'S NORMALLY DONE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT I AM ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT IF THOSE TRAILS WERE BUILT UP FRONT THROUGH THE CREEK AREA, NOT NOT THROUGH THE MAIN DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S GOT TO COME WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND THE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING, BUT THROUGH THE CREEK CORRIDOR, IT WILL ACTUALLY PROBABLY HELP DRAW MORE PEOPLE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

THE TRAIL THAT'S ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE PGA PARKWAY IS ALREADY GETTING USED EXTENSIVELY AND IT'S NOT EVEN OFFICIALLY OPEN YET.

AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A TON OF PEOPLE OUT THERE USING IT.

SO I THINK THAT CONNECTIVITY WOULD MAKE THIS THAT MUCH BETTER.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT IF IT'S NOT DONE UP FRONT AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO DO IT UP FRONT, THAT IT LANGUISHES.

AND WHAT WE END UP WITH IS WE END UP WITH 422 APARTMENTS.

THAT'S ALLOWED.

ANOTHER 400 UNITS DOWN IN THE LOWER RIGHT.

THAT'S ALLOWED AND THEN UNKNOWN WHEN ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENS.

THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL MAKE TWO COMMENTS, ONE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHAT'S THE URBAN COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA, IT'S LIMITING OF REALLY TRYING TO DO ANY COMMERCIAL ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND THE REASON FOR IT, THIS IS A VERY SMALL WINDOW, A DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY ON PGA PARKWAY.

SO WHEN YOU GET BACK HERE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE VISIBILITY BACK THERE.

SO TRYING TO DO ANYTHING COMMERCIAL WOULD BE VERY CHALLENGING.

AND SO JUST AS WE WORK WITH THIS PROPERTY OWNER, WORK WITH PARKS, BECAUSE AT ONE TIME PARKS WAS SAYING, WELL, WE'LL GET ALL THE FOUR ACRES ON THIS PROPERTY NOW.

SO IF YOU DO THAT, THAT'S NOT REALLY BEING FAIR TO EITHER PARTIES.

AND SO WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT OF SPLITTING THE PARK, TWO ACRES ON THIS PROPERTY, TWO ACRES ON THIS PROPERTY, KNOWING THAT THIS IS LIKELY TO DEVELOP AS RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE LIMITING FACTORS OF TRYING DO COMMERCIAL.

AND, BILL, WHEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS, WHAT I DO SEE HAPPENING, THIS TRAIL GETTING BUILT, THIS IS GETTING DOWN THE [INAUDIBLE]'S PROPERTY HERE, BUT MAKING THIS CONNECTION.

BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE EARLIEST OR.

TRAIL CONNECTION THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

JUST AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU GOT THE PGA PARKWAY AND [INAUDIBLE] PARKS.

I MEAN, [INAUDIBLE] TOGETHER, THAT'S THE MOST LIKELY THAT TRAIL CONNECTION WOULD BE DONE FOR THE REASON THAT THAT YOU MENTIONED.

BUT ONCE YOU GO.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TRAIL CORRIDOR THROUGH THE ENTIRE CREEK WATER UP FRONT, CONNECTED UP TO PGA.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE IT IMMEDIATELY.

WELL, THE OTHER THING.

IT WILL BECOME AN AMENITY THAT CAN BE SHOWN OFF TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME DOWN THERE AND BUILD.

THE ONE THING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE GO PUTTING IMPROVEMENTS IN IS EXACTLY THE FLOODPLAIN.

HOW DOES THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT TRAIL COMES TOGETHER.

SO WE NEED TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE SO WE'RE NOT WASTING FUNDS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT A FLOODPLAIN SURVEY WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY COULD BUILD IT, BUT I STILL THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE UP FRONT.

AND IF THAT MEANS FLOOD SURVEY'S GOT TO GET DONE A LITTLE SOONER THAT MEANS IT'S GOT TO GET DONE A LITTLE SOONER.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I BROUGHT IT BACK IN AUGUST.

[INAUDIBLE] I THINK, IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.

YOU GUYS HAVE HERE, IT CERTAINLY WILL BE AN AMENITY, I KNOW YOU GOT TO SACRIFICE KIND OF FROM A TIME SEQUENCING PERSPECTIVE TO TRY TO GET SOME OTHER THINGS OR ALLOW US TO GET SOME OTHER THINGS DONE.

AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, I MEAN, THE WHOLE VISION HERE WAS TO HAVE A DESTINATION IN

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ADDITION TO WHAT'S AT PGA FRISCO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT RIGHT? JUST TO MAKE SURE.

OK.

I DO STRUGGLE WITH THE DENSITY.

THERE'S JUST NO WAY AROUND THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO THE DENSITY OF THE [INAUDIBLE] ITSELF.

IT'S A HARD ONE FOR ME TO GET PAST MAYOR, SO I CAN'T I MEAN, YOU'RE ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS EARLIER ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE ALTERNATIVE USES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANSWERS FOR THAT EITHER.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT IS NOT MY BAILIWICK.

I JUST KNOW THAT DENSITY IS SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS OUR RESIDENTS AND.

THEREFORE, I SHOULD LISTEN TO IT AND SO BUT SO MAYBE YOU COULD SPEND JUST A FEW MINUTES, WHOEVER SHOULD SPEAK TO IT, TALKING WHY THE DENSITY IS IMPORTANT TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND IF YOU HAD TO REDUCE DENSITY DOWN GREATLY, HOW THAT IMPAIRS THE PROJECT OR HOW PADDING IT REALLY HELPS THE PROJECT? YEAH, SURE.

A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

FIRST, JUST SPEAKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL IS A COMBINATION WITH MIXED USE, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

CERTAINLY FRISCO'S FAMILIAR WITH THE DESIRE TO BRING RESIDENTIAL INTO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

I MEAN, CRAIG HALL IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WITH HALL PARK AND LOOKING TO CREATE A MORE DYNAMIC SEVEN DAY A WEEK ACTIVE DESTINATION OF THAT PROPERTY.

THE RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE PORTION OF IT, I THINK WAS A BIG PART OF TRANSITIONING THE UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM AN OFFICE PARK TO A TRUE MIXED USE DESTINATION.

SO THIS IS SOME SIMILAR LOGIC APPLIES HERE.

YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAME TO THIS POINT, I DON'T REMEMBER.

I BELIEVE THE FIELD'S PROPERTY WAS PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY IN THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.

BUT I BELIEVE THE BIG CHUNK OF IT WAS, SOME OF THE CORNERS, NOT NECESSARILY, WHEREAS THIS PROPERTY WAS IN IS AN URBAN CENTER COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

SO WE STARTED WITH THAT AS A BASELINE AND THEN LAYERED OVER, YOU KNOW, OUR VISION AND WORKING WITH THE PGA OF AMERICA AND OUR PARTNERS ON STILLWATER WOODS THAT ARE IN THAT PROJECT TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT INTEGRATED MULTIPLE USES FOR AN ACTIVE TWENTY FOUR SEVEN DESTINATION.

IN TERMS OF REDUCING DENSITY, SOMETHING THAT WE DID DO EARLY ON.

I THINK THE NUMBER IS ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO UNITS IS A MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE BUILT IN THE URBAN COMMUNITY WITH THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE STARTED WITH THE THIRTY PERCENT DESIGNATION, WHICH WAS THE OVERALL PROJECT NUMBER.

FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO UNITS WERE LISTED AS BY RIGHT WITHIN THE URBAN COMMUNITY DISTRICT, BUT WITHIN THE URBAN COMMUNITY COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT KIND OF CLASSIFICATION.

WE MAX OUT AT EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE AND THAT PROPERTY'S ROUGHLY TWENTY NINE ACRES.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO BY RIGHT IN THAT AREA, PURSUING THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL STRATEGY, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BUILD THAT MANY.

SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ARTIFICIALLY LIMITING OURSELVES BELOW THE DESIGNATED LAND USE PLAN STANDARDS IS HOW I WOULD DESCRIBE THAT.

YOU KNOW, LASTLY, THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION, BRIAN, SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION, SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT JOHN AND STAFF WERE WORKING ON WITH US EARLY ON WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONSENSUS WITHIN OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MULTIPLE USE TYPES WITHIN THE PROJECT, RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, OFFICE, HOTELS, ENTERTAINMENT.

IT'S A LARGE PROPERTY.

SO THERE'S ROOM FOR EVERYBODY TO PLAY, ESSENTIALLY.

BUT NOBODY WANTED THE RESIDENTIAL TO GET OUT AHEAD OF ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND WHEN WE MADE THE AGREEMENT EARLY ON TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE DENSITY OF THE COMMERCIAL WITH THE HEIGHT MINIMUMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE WERE ESSENTIALLY LIMITING AND KIND OF SLOWING THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALONGSIDE THEM.

SO TO GET TO OUR FULL BUILD OUT, I THINK THE NUMBER'S ABOUT TWO POINT TWO MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT BEFORE WE CAN EVEN GET TO OUR ENTITLED UNITS.

AND SO TO BUILD THIS PROPERTY OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR TO EVEN BE ABLE TO GET TO THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT TECHNICALLY WE HAVE BY.

BUT WE CAN'T BUILD WITHOUT THE ONE UNIT PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT DESIGNATION.

SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DESIRE ON OUR PART, ON STAFF'S PART AND WITHIN ALL THE CONSTITUENTS WE'VE SPOKEN TO TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A CLASS A DESTINATION WITH A DECENT AMOUNT OF DENSITY FOR THAT SKYLINE VIEW OVERLOOKING THE GOLF COURSE THAT MAYOR CHENEY WAS TALKING ABOUT.

BUT THAT OFFICE SPACE, THOSE HOTELS THAT RETAIL WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT ALONGSIDE THE RESIDENTIAL TO ENSURE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A BALANCED DEVELOPMENT THAT ISN'T OVER WEIGHTED TOWARDS ONE USE OR ANOTHER.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER WOODARD MADE TWO POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF REITERATE THAT I'M KIND OF LATCHING ON TO AS WELL.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN INFLUENCE KIND OF THAT SOUTHEASTERN CORRIDOR TO BE COTTAGE, I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND BEING A BIG USER OF THE CURRENT TRIAL THAT EXISTS AT THE PGA FRISCO, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN SEQUENCE THOSE, GETTING THE TRAILS BUILT AS BEST THEY

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CAN BE, I KNOW THEY CAN'T BE BUILT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

THAT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT AMENITY AHEAD OF TIME.

AND TO YOUR POINT, CLAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK GENERALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT CLASS A OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IN FRISCO.

THAT'S WHAT THAT BRINGS JOBS.

AND WE GET ALL THESE GREAT UPDATES.

AND SO THE LEVERAGE WE HAVE WITH YOU IN GETTING CLASS A OFFICE SPACE DEVELOPMENT DELIVERED IS IS THIS PHASING CONCEPT.

AND SO YOU'RE GETTING SOME LIMITED NUMBER BY RIGHT BUT THIS IS ONLY THE REST YOU HAVE TO EARN OUT.

AND IF YOU DON'T BUILD THE CLASS A, THEN YOU DON'T GET THE MULTIFAMILY.

CORRECT.

SO I'M SORRY [INAUDIBLE] DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I'M JUST LISTENING TO YOU.

OK.

I'M DEBATING SOMETHING ELSE CLAY IN MY OWN HEAD RIGHT NOW, BUT.

NO PROBLEM.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW I SHOULD GO ABOUT THIS THE RIGHT WAY, BUT.

CAN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FIRST.

BECAUSE I HAVEN'T.

WELL, [INAUDIBLE] LET ME.

OK, COUNCIL MEMBER STRICKLIN, THIS IS A MAJOR VOTE WE'RE TAKING.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE ENTITLED TO AN OPINION.

SO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE JUST RECENTLY GOT OFF THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS ONE OF THE LONGEST CAMPAIGNS IN THE HISTORY OF FRISCO'S 14 MONTHS.

MY CAMPAIGN TEAM, WE KNOCKED OVER 16,000 DOORS.

AND THE MESSAGE THAT I GOT LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE CITIZENS OF FRISCO IS THEY DO NOT WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS.

OH, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT BY RIGHT.

BUT FRISCO DOES NOT WANT MORE APARTMENTS.

THEY DON'T WANT MORE DENSITY.

[INAUDIBLE] HE'S NOT ENTITLED TO ANY BY RIGHT.

NOT WITH THE.

NOT YET.

SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT'S BEEN SHARED HERE ABOUT THE COTTAGE HOMES AND MAYBE THE EXPLORATION OF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

I'D LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT IN MY EARLIER COMMENT.

THIS IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.

I HOPE I DIDN'T COME ACROSS NEGATIVE.

THIS IS BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED.

THOUGHT OUT WOULD BE GREAT FOR FRISCO.

SO I'M NOT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OBVIOUSLY I LOVE THE COTTAGES.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK IT'S NEEDED.

AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ON THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE TOWNHOMES OR ZERO LOT LINES OR DIFFERENT PRODUCTS OTHER THAN JUST THE MULTIFAMILY THAT BILL DESCRIBED.

I REFERRED TO IT AS STACKED MULTIFAMILY.

STACKED MULTIFAMILY.

I WOULD I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH OF THAT AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT UP HERE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DIFFERENT, THE ONES I JUST MENTIONED, MORE OF THAT MIXED IN AND JUST LESS LESS OF THE DENSE APARTMENTS.

SO I LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT.

I'D LOVE TO SUPPORT IT, FOR ME TO GET THERE.

I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SEE LESS DENSITY IN THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL LIVING.

I'M NOT JUST LOOKING JUST AT THIS.

I MEAN, WE MADE THE DECISION ON THE NINE THOUSAND THAT WAS HARD FOR ME TO GET THERE.

SO ADDING IT, LIKE I SAID, ANOTHER 30 PERCENT IS JUST A CHALLENGE FOR ME.

IF WE COULD BE MORE FLEXIBLE IN THE TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL, I COULD GET THERE.

SO PART OF WHAT WE WORKED TO SOLVE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS WAS ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE DENSITY HERE.

YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DISCUSSIONS, WE CONTEMPLATED SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T GET QUITE AS DENSE AS WHAT WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP, JUST IN FAIRNESS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DESIRE TO HAVE FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN STORY MINIMUMS ON THE PROPERTY, MEANING IT COULD GO TALLER, BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN BREAK GROUND UNTIL YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST THAT MUCH DENSITY.

MARRYING THAT UP WITH LOW DENSITY KIND OF REQUEST JUST CREATES A CHALLENGE.

AND SO WHAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO HERE IS SELECT PROPERTY THAT, AS JOHN WAS MENTIONING, IS QUITE DIFFICULT TO GET TO.

THERE'S A VERY NARROW PORTION OF PGA PARKWAY WHERE YOU CAN EVEN ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

AND SO IT KIND OF TILTED THIS AREA DOWN HERE IN THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE WHAT WE CALL THE URBAN COMMUNITY AREA TOWARDS THAT PRODUCT TYPE.

BUT TO DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THE SIZE, RIGHT.

IF WE HAVE ANY HOPE OF GETTING TO THAT TWO MILLION SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT NUMBER, WHICH I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DENSITY ADJACENT TO THE CITY'S CONFERENCE FACILITY AND THE 500 ROOM HOTEL AND ADJACENT TO THE MAJOR GOLF TOURNAMENTS AND WHERE ALL THAT ACTIVITY IS GOING TO OCCUR, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO PUT BIGGER BUILDING SOMEWHERE.

AND SO WE DID OUR BEST TO PUT THE LOWER DENSITY, YOU KNOW, BY THE GREEN SPACE AWAY FROM THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN WHERE WE HAVE THE HEIGHT MINIMUMS, MAINTAINING A DENSER URBAN CENTER AS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES KIND OF CHARACTERISTIC IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S SOME CONTEXT OF HOW WE GOT THERE.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.

IT IS A BALANCING ACT, THOUGH.

IF WE MADE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ACRES AND MADE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY OF IT, ONE STORY, THAT'S NOT A DENSE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE PLAYING THAT GAME AND TRYING TO FIND AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE.

AND THAT INFORMATION IS APPRECIATED.

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BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO BUILD THAT STACK MULTIFAMILY DOWN IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER.

SO WHY NOT JUST ELIMINATE THAT OPTION ALTOGETHER AND JUST SAY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BUILD COTTAGES AND PUT THAT IN THE PD? OUR DESIRE IS TO DO THE PRODUCT AS DESIGNED AND EXPLAINED HERE WITH THIS COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL THAT THE ALTERNATIVE AS I'LL CALL IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL CITY RELATED APPROVALS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AS JOHN MENTIONED, THERE'S ADDITIONAL STAFF LEVEL APPROVALS POST ZONING THAT ARE REQUIRED.

AND WE WANT TO DO ENSURE THAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACHIEVE A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME ON THAT FRONT, THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY IS QUITE CHALLENGING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO HERE.

BUT THE CITY AND STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HOME YET, SO TO SPEAK, THERE ARE OTHER APPROVALS THAT HAVE TO INCUR.

I GUESS I HAVE A LITTLE MORE FAITH IN THE ABILITY OF YOU AND OUR STAFF TO WORK THAT OUT, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN VERSUS AN OUT CLAUSE BASICALLY THAT SAYS, WELL, WE DON'T THINK WE CAN AGREE WITH STAFF, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO BUILD THIS STACK MULTIFAMILY NOW.

SO BILL ONE THING I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS THIS IS A NEW ASSET CLASS AND THERE'S REALLY ONLY BEEN ONE THERE'S ONLY BEEN A FEW HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT.

AND THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT HAVE NOT BEEN DOING IT.

WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER FOR SUBSTANDARD OR WELL, THAT'S WHY WHEN JOHN LOOKS AT THE PICTURES, HE DOESN'T LIKE THEM.

AND SO THAT IS AND THE FRISCO STANDARD IS AN EMERGING ASSET CLASS THAT I THINK THE NEXT GENERATION OF RESIDENT LOOKING TO MOVE HERE WILL HAVE A LOT OF DEMAND FOR.

YEAH I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH JAKE WAGNER ABOUT THIS AT RPG AND GETTING HIS THOUGHTS ON IT.

OF COURSE, HE WON DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER OF THE YEAR FOR HIS PROJECT IN FRISCO, IN PHILLIPS CREEK RANCH.

YOU KNOW, HE IS A BIG BELIEVER IN IT, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

AND SO I THINK THAT IS PART OF, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS FINANCING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS FOR A NEW ASSET CLASS, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE DUE DILIGENCE WITH THAT.

BUT I DO HAVE AND I KNOW SHONA YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS, TOO.

I HAVE QUESTIONS.

THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET ANSWERED BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER ON MAKING ANY OTHER DECISIONS.

I DO FEEL LIKE I DO HAVE TO RESPOND TO DAN, YOUR COMMENTS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND DOORKNOCKERS MAY HAVE KNOCKED ON SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS OF FRISCO THAT ALL OF US HAVE BEEN ELECTED AND SPOKEN TO THOSE SAME PEOPLE.

WHAT I HAVE FOUND OVERWHELMINGLY OVER THE YEARS IS THAT THIS ISSUE IS LARGELY A POLITICAL DOG WHISTLE THAT GOES WELL ON POLITICAL MAILERS.

AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY SPEAK TO PEOPLE AND EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT HOW MULTIFAMILY WORKS, HOW IT ACTUALLY REDUCES TRAFFIC IN THE CITY, HOW IT ACTUALLY BUILDS OUR COMMERCIAL BASES, IT'S IRONIC TO ME THAT PEOPLE THAT CONSIDER THEMSELVES CONSERVATIVES DON'T LOOK AT THE ECONOMICS BEHIND THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW IT ACTUALLY IS DRIVING OUR TAXPAYERS TAX BILLS DOWN.

AND HOW WAS THE MODEL FOR HOW WE BUILT FRISCO.

THIS IS AN ODD SHAPED PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS NOT A RECTANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S EASY TO DESIGNED WITH BLOCK AND GRID DESIGNS.

IT'S GOT A FLOOD PLAIN GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT.

IT'S A REALLY CHALLENGING PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAD THE PGA OF AMERICA NOT COME HERE, WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN WAREHOUSE, OFFICE.

WHO KNOWS WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.

PROBABLY NOTHING DESIRABLE AND NOTHING IMAGINATIVE OR NOTHING INSPIRED.

IT WOULD BE ONE OF THIS COUNCIL'S GREATEST FAILURES IF WE DO NOT ALLOW THE ONLY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS UNOBSTRUCTED VIEWS OF THE GOLF COURSE TO DEVELOP INTO ANYTHING LESS THAN SPECTACULAR.

AND SO TO DO THAT, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS SAY WE WANT THE ENTERTAINMENT, WE WANT THE TOP GOLF THERE.

WE WANT THE MUSIC HALL.

WE WANT THE GREAT DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.

AND IT'S ONE OF OUR COUNCIL'S TOP 10.

HOW DO WE BRING ENTERTAINMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY? IT'S BY BLENDING USES.

AND WHEN YOU THROW OUT A NUMBER LIKE 9000 THAT WAS ON THE 2500 ACRES ZONING CASE, INCLUDING UNIVERSAL UNIVERSITY HOUSING.

AND SO WE THROW OUT A GROSS NUMBER LIKE THAT.

YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT WE'VE NEVER ZONED 2500 ACRES BEFORE, YOU KNOW.

SO YOU PUT INTO CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL WORKED REALLY HARD IN 2017 AS FAR AS WE NEVER HAD STANDARDS.

WHEN FRISCO STATION WAS BUILT, WE DID NOT HAVE THESE STANDARDS IN PLACE AS FAR AS OPEN SPACE AND REQUIREMENTS AND [INAUDIBLE] BREAKER.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING USUALLY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT FRISCO SQUARE AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL WASN'T ON COUNCIL WHEN FRISCO SQUARE WAS ZONED.

AND SO THIS WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

WE DON'T ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN ANYMORE.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S PHASING IN PLACE.

AND THAT'S WHY TO MEET THIS MAX NUMBER, WHICH IS ACTUALLY BELOW WHAT WE'VE

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DONE IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DELIVER TWO POINT TWO MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE.

THAT IS WHY WE PUT THIS INTO PLACE SO THAT YOU COULDN'T JUST GO BUILD LIKE WHAT WAS BEING BUILT.

THAT IS THE FRUSTRATION OUR RESIDENTS HAVE, WHICH WAS THE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY UNCHECKED BUILDING WHERE THE EMERSON CAN BE BUILT IN THE MIDDLE OF FIELD.

BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL CAME OUT, WHERE YOU SAW THESE APARTMENTS GO UP AND NOTHING CAME WITH IT, AND WE PUT THOSE POLICIES IN PLACE TO RESTRICT THAT.

AND SO THAT'S OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL TO EDUCATE THE RESIDENTS AS FAR AS WHAT IS BEING DONE TO GET THE RIGHT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ONLY ALONG THE URBAN SPINE, WHICH THIS IS.

AND SO I'M SORRY, I CAN'T LET THAT COMMENT GO UNCHALLENGED, INFERRING THAT THE REST OF COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE'VE APPROVED PROJECTS AND LOOK AT THESE, AREN'T LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS.

WE ARE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS [INAUDIBLE] ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE THEM AS WELL.

AS FAR AS THE STRATEGY.

IF I MAY.

MAYOR, THANK YOU.

JUST VERY BRIEFLY, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND I'VE NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE, BUT I'VE PARTICIPATED.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE KNOCKING ON THOSE DOORS.

STILLWATER, WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ARM, ROBERT ELLIOT CUSTOM HOMES.

SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR.

WE BUILD HIGH END CUSTOM HOMES ALL OVER THE CITY.

SO WE BUILD THE HIGH END SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE PRODUCT.

WE ALSO BUILD URBAN LIVING STYLE PRODUCT.

WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER JUST POLITELY IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE BUILD THIS OUT AS PROPOSED HERE, WHICH WE HAVE EVERY INTENT IN OUR SUCCESS OF DOING SO, IF YOU DO THAT SAME DOOR KNOCKING CAMPAIGN AT THE UNITS THAT WE BUILD HERE, I THINK YOU'D HAVE THE INVERSE RESPONSE THAT EVERYBODY THAT KNOCKS, THAT OPENS THE DOOR, THAT LIVES IN A COMPLEX THAT IS ADJACENT TO PGA FRISCO, AND THEY COULD WALK IN THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AND THEY CAN GO TO THE HOTEL, THEY CAN PLAY A ROUND OF GOLF AND THEY HAVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND SHOPPING.

AND YOU ASK THOSE RESIDENTS, ARE YOU GLAD THERE'S APARTMENTS HERE? ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE RESIDENTS WOULD SAY, YES, WE'RE GLAD TO LIVE HERE.

AND SO, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU TALK TO AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE, BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING HERE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE LIKELY VOTERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THERE'S A THERE'S A FLIP SIDE OF THAT COIN THAT I THINK IS WORTH CONSIDERING.

SHONA STILL HAS QUESTIONS.

JOHN, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS JUST FOR SOME CLARIFICATION OF SOME THINGS, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME IN TERMS OF NUMBERS AND THINGS HAVE BEEN THROWN AROUND.

AND I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY FOR MYSELF.

AND I THINK ALSO OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE THAT AS WELL.

WHAT DOES THIS PROPERTY ZONED FOR CURRENTLY? RIGHT NOW? IT'S AGRICULTURE.

SO HOW MANY MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS, ET CETERA, CAN BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY? YOU CAN'T DO IT DO ANY APARTMENTS ON IT.

SO WHEN WE USE THE TERM BY RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT KEEPS GETTING THROWN AROUND, THAT WE HAVE BY RIGHT THIS NUMBER, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE'S NOTHING BY RIGHT.

AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THE LAND USE PLAN RECOMMENDS MIXED USE, IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE ZONING.

SO WE VETTED THAT WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE THAT CASE COMES FORWARD.

SO THERE'S NOTHING BY RIGHT, I THINK IT WAS JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE PLAN GETS ITS ZONE.

COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY ON WHAT GETS APPROVED ON ZONING.

I THINK THAT'S A VERY CLEAR POINT BECAUSE WE KEEP SAYING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN NUMBER ALLOWED BY RIGHT OR THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT WE COULD DO BY THE DENSITY STANDARDS.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

AND NONE OF THAT IS CURRENTLY PLANNED OR ACCEPTED, LIKE WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

YES, YOU CAN DO THAT.

NO, YOU CAN'T.

AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, JUST AS THE MAYOR WAS ALLUDING TO, WE USE THE POLICY.

AS WE'RE DONE SINCE COUNCIL APPROVED IT, REGARDING THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE OPEN SPACE, AND SOMETIMES THAT OPEN SPACE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 10 PERCENT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

AND AND THE BIG THING WAS THE TIMING OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIFTY FIVE UNITS PER ACRE AND DENSITY CONVERSATION AS THAT, IS THAT A IS THAT A STANDARD? IS THAT A GUIDELINE? IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? THAT'S A POLICY THAT WE USE TO DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

NOW, BASED ON THAT 55 UNITS, THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS AGREED TO IN THE WORK SESSION.

BUT YOU COULD HAVE A PROJECT.

THEY MIGHT DO 100 HUNDRED UNITS TO THE ACRE.

BUT LET'S SAY IF THEY, LET'S SAY YOU'RE LIMITED TO A THOUSAND UNITS AND THEY DECIDE TO PUT 500 UNITS IN A COUPLE A COUPLE OF ACRES AND THEY DECIDE TO GO VERTICAL.

WELL, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE NUMBER.

YOU STILL HAVE THAT NUMBER.

THEY JUST DECIDED TO PUT MORE OF THOSE UNITS.

SO IT'S AN INCREASE OF BUILDING HEIGHT, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE UNITS.

BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE OR LESS.

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YOU COULD DO LESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO FIFTY FIVE UNITS.

IT'S A STANDARD THAT WE'VE SET IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AREA THAT THIS WORKS IN, THAT'S A STANDARD WE'RE GOING TO HOLD TO FOR DENSITY.

IT'S NOT A.

THAT'S RIGHT.

A REQUIREMENT.

IT ESTABLISHES A CAP.

OK.

ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

IT COULD BE HIGHER.

IT COULD BE LOWER.

AND SO THE PRODUCT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THIS DEVELOPMENT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POSSIBLE UNITS THAT THEY COULD DO IF WE VOTED YES ON THIS TONIGHT.

THE WAY IT STANDS IS HOW MANY? IS TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

AND THERE'S HOW MANY ACRES IN THIS PROJECT? THERE'S ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE NET ACRES.

AND THERE'S HOW MANY IN THE FIELD'S PROPERTY, HOW MANY UNITS IN THE FIELD'S PROPERTY.

SOMETHING LIKE THERE WAS ABOUT FIFTEEN THOUSAND AND.

SO 85 HUNDRED AND THEN A THOUSAND IN STUDENT HOUSING IT'S ABOUT NINETY FIVE HUNDRED.

AND THAT, AND THAT PROPERTY'S HOW BIG? THAT WAS TWENTY ONE HUNDRED ACRES AND THEY COULD ASK FOR ADDITIONAL STUDENT HOUSING, BUT THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

AND SO ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD BACK IN AUGUST IN THE WORK SESSION CONCERNED THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT EVEN THOUGH AND I BELIEVE I ASKED THE QUESTION ONCE WE DO THE FIELDS AND WE'VE DONE THE FIELDS, SHOULD WE THEN GO BACK AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING AROUND IT? BECAUSE THAT MIGHT CHANGE OUR MIND OR PROJECTION AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE AROUND IT BASED ON THE DENSITY THAT WE DID IN THE FIELDS, NOT NECESSARILY SAYING WELL WE DID IT HERE.

SO WE SHOULD ALSO DO IT HERE OR WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND WE SHOULD NOT EVEN BOTHER TO CHANGE IT.

THE IDEA WAS WE DID A LOT OF STUFF HERE, SO WE MAY WANT TO CHANGE DIRECTIONS, OTHER PLACES, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND WE DID THAT.

WE KIND OF WENT BACK AND SAID WE DID DO THAT.

THAT HAS I THINK SEVERAL OF US ON THE COUNCIL SAID THIS NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY THAT WE PUT HERE.

SO MY QUESTION, MY CONCERNS ARE THAT, WELL, THERE ARE SEVERAL, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE THE I WANT TO STOP USING THE TERMS BY RIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THAT IMPLIES IS THAT THAT LEGALLY YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT.

AND WE TALK A LOT IN FRISCO ABOUT THINGS THAT ALREADY ZONED AND THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER AND THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REZONE.

THIS ONE WE DO.

AND SO WHILE I DON'T THINK EVERYONE DISLIKES MULTIFAMILY IN EVERY VERSION OF MULTIFAMILY, I DO THINK THAT THOSE OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO AREN'T HERE YET, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE, DO HAVE ISSUES AND CONCERNS WITH THE DENSITY THAT WE ARE CREATING.

THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND CREATED AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND SO I WANT US TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, THAT, YES, THOSE WHO MIGHT LIVE IN THESE APARTMENTS IN THE FUTURE MIGHT GO, THIS IS GREAT.

BUT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FIVE, 10, 15 YEARS MAY NOT THINK SO.

SO I CAN'T REALLY MAKE MY DECISION BASED ON WHAT FUTURE RESIDENTS MIGHT NECESSARILY SAY.

I NEED TO BASE MY DECISIONS ON WHAT I THINK CURRENT RESIDENTS WOULD SAY.

I COULD START TO MOVE MORE YOUR DIRECTION TO BILL'S POINT, IF THERE'S I DON'T WANT TO DEAL IN, WELL, WE COULD MAYBE GO THAT WAY OR WE MIGHT DO THAT IF THE DESIGNS WORKED OUT.

I'M NOT GOING THAT DIRECTION AT ALL.

IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ONLY TALK ABOUT THE TOWNHOME AND THE COTTAGE TYPE THINGS AND THAT TYPE OF PRODUCT.

AND WE GET IT UP TO THE STANDARDS OF FRISCO.

OR WE DON'T DO IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

BUT I'M NOT AT ALL GOING TO I'M NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

THE STACKED MULTIFAMILY IN THAT AREA, I'M NEVER GOING TO SUPPORT A PROJECT AT THIS POINT THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT.

AND MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT OF THE VISION OF THIS PROPERTY AND IT NEEDING TO BE THIS JEWEL, ONE PERSON'S VISION OF A JEWEL, MAYBE A VERY DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER PERSON'S VISION OF THE JEWEL.

AND IF I LOOK AT SOME OF THE GOLF COURSES AROUND THAT I'VE BEEN TO THAT I THINK ARE BEAUTIFUL.

TORREY PINES AND PEBBLE BEACH, THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT THAT I'VE BEEN TO BOTH OF THOSE, HALF MOON BAY.

THE THERE'S NOT TALL OFFICE BUILDINGS OVERLOOKING THOSE AT ALL.

IN FACT, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S TUCKED AWAY.

IT'S HIDDEN.

IT'S THERE'S NONE OF THAT OFFICE STUFF.

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AND WHILE I TYPICALLY WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO WOULD SUPPORT ALL OF THE FIRST CLASS OFFICE STRUCTURE GOING IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S MY VISION FOR WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

SO AT THIS POINT, LIKE IF I'M VOTING TONIGHT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I'VE MENTIONED AND THIS POINT, I THINK IT'S TOO DENSE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

I THINK WE'RE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE HIKE AND BIKE CONVERSATION.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN AUGUST.

I THINK WE WERE VERY FORTHCOMING AS A COUNCIL.

A LOT OF US WERE ABOUT OUR CONCERNS WITH THIS PROJECT.

HAVE YOU MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS SINCE AUGUST TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD GET US TO THIS PLACE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT? HAVE YOU MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS? AND MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT YOU DIDN'T MEET WITH.

BUT.

NO, THAT'S WE HAVE NOT MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE TOOK THE FEEDBACK FROM THE WORK SESSION AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH JOHN AND STAFF FOR SIX MONTHS TO GET TO THIS POINT.

I THINK THE.

I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE POTENTIALLY IN VISION AND DESIRE FOR PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE GOLF COURSE, THE OVERWHELMING MESSAGE THAT WE HEARD AT THE TIME, THE NOTES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD SINCE, IS THAT MORE DENSITY WAS DESIRED.

SO JOHN WILL BE FAMILIAR.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A THREE STORY MINIMUM INITIALLY TO PULL THAT DENSITY DOWN, WHICH WOULD HAVE ALSO INHIBITED OUR ABILITY TO GET TO ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF LOWERING THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY.

IT IS, IT WAS A REQUEST OF STAFF TO ACTUALLY GO THE OTHER DIRECTION, WHICH IS HOW WE ENDED UP HERE TODAY.

SO JUST SOME CONTEXT.

OK, I MEAN, I THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WORK SESSION, BUT MAYBE THAT'S AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JOHN'S [INAUDIBLE].

ONE LAST FOLLOW UP QUESTION, I'M SORRY.

IT'S A VERY SIMPLE BUSINESS MODEL QUESTION.

BUT AGAIN, AS JEFF POINTED OUT, YOU GUYS HAVE A FANTASTIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE, DINING, ENTERTAINMENT, RETAIL.

DOES IT DOES THE BUSINESS MODEL WORK WITHOUT MULTIFAMILY? AND CAN YOU MAYBE JUST TALK TO THAT POINT? THERE IS NO WAY THIS PROJECT HAPPENS AS DESIGNED.

IF YOU TAKE OUT THE MULTIFAMILY, NOT FROM US, NOT FROM ANYBODY.

IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE WITH HOW THE MARKET AND CAPITAL PARTNERS AND LENDERS VIEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, NO RESIDENTIAL, NO DYNAMIC MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS.

I MEAN, YOU COULD DO AN OFFICE BUILDING.

OF COURSE YOU CAN DO OTHER THINGS.

BUT IT'S AN OVERWHELMING TREND WITHIN THE INDUSTRY AND WITHIN EVERYONE, FROM RESIDENTS TO VARIOUS CONSTITUENT STAKEHOLDERS IN THESE PROJECTS WILL WANT TO SEE IT.

SO FOR STILLWATER, I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY NO.

I THINK FOR THE MARKET, I CAN SPEAK FOR THAT AS WELL.

GIVEN OUR EXPERIENCE.

I THINK IT'S A NO.

WHAT I WOULD SAY, GOING BACK TO A CONCERN THAT'S BEEN RAISED, WE WANT TO BUILD THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

AND I THINK IN THESE DISCUSSIONS, IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE CITY FOR YEARS ON THIS PROJECT.

IT HAS BEEN OUR COMMITMENT.

IT WAS OUR COMMITMENT TO BRING THE PGA OF AMERICA HERE.

AND WE DID THAT WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND WITH YOUR HELP.

WE SAID THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE WHAT WE CONSIDER A PHASE TWO PROJECT ADJACENT TO PGA FRISCO THAT WAS FOCUSED ON A PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT WENT FROM THE PGA HEADQUARTERS THROUGH THE RETAIL VILLAGE BY THE RESORT, BY THE MEETING SPACE ACROSS LEGACY, AND WAS THE CENTRAL FOCAL POINT OF THIS PROJECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WALKABILITY, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY CONNECTIONS.

THE EXPERIENCE, I THINK EVERYBODY SAYS THAT THEY WANT AND WE BUILT AROUND THAT VISION.

AND SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT TO DO HERE, POTENTIALLY.

BUT WHAT I'LL SAY IS WE'VE GOT SEVERAL OF THESE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS HAPPENING IN NORTH TEXAS RIGHT NOW IN MULTIPLE MARKETS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A 20 MINUTE DRIVE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, TODAY, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD HERE.

AND WE WANT TO BUILD THE TRAILS.

AND THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF TRUST.

WE WORKED AS BEST WE COULD ON THE DOCUMENT TO GET AS TIGHT OF A FRAMEWORK AS POSSIBLE.

WE WANT TO BUILD THESE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS.

THOSE ARE DEPENDENT ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE TOLD BY THE CITY DOESN'T GET EXECUTED UNTIL AFTER ZONING.

SO WE'VE HAD TO PUT THAT ON HOLD TO DO THIS, TO THEN GET TO THE PARK SYSTEM.

BUT YOU'VE GOT MY COMMITMENT THAT WE WANT TO BUILD THOSE TRAILS, WE WILL BUILD THEM AND WE'LL BE ON THE FRONT END OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE JUST GOT TO GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE CITY.

AS IT RELATES TO THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD HERE.

IT'S WE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS DETAILING EVERY INCH OF THAT DESIGN TO MEET THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM STAFF.

AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT IS A FOOL'S ERRAND JUST TO BAIT SWITCH AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW.

AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE DOCUMENTS, WHAT WE NECESSARILY DO ABOUT YOUR CONCERN.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE.

WE'VE GOT.

WHAT'S THAT?

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WHAT'S THE TOTAL CAPITAL INVESTMENT HERE [INAUDIBLE] TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE? IT'S OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.

OVER A BILLION.

OVER A BILLION DOLLARS AT FULL BUILD OUT.

SO TO GET THE BILLION DOLLARS IN ASSESSED VALUE, WE NEED THE MULTIFAMILY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S THE BUSINESS.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS ON TAX PROJECTIONS AND PHASING AND ALL THAT STUFF WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE AFTER THE MEETING.

CAN YOU PAINT THE PICTURE? I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ATTENTION JUST ON THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

CAN YOU PAINT A PICTURE OF WHAT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE AND THE USES AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND OF EVERYTHING ELSE? SO MAYBE WE GET OFF CENTER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST FOCUSING ON THE APARTMENTS.

[INAUDIBLE] WHAT ELSE IT WOULD BE.

OF COURSE.

I MEAN, IT'S A LOT IS THE POINT AND WE'RE WORKING ON ALL OF IT TODAY AND JUST CAN'T ADVANCE CONVERSATIONS MUCH FURTHER WITHOUT ZONING.

IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF PGA PARKWAY AND LEGACY, WHICH IS UP THERE.

WE'RE IN CONCEPT DESIGN AND HAVE HIRED A THIRD PARTY BROKERAGE FIRM TO MARKET THAT SPACE IS A CLASS A OFFICE DESTINATION.

THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST OFFICE PRODUCT THAT'S BUILT IS A PART OF THIS MIX DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER.

SO THAT'S UNDERWAY TODAY.

THE ENTERTAINMENT SECTION OVER HERE, WE'VE GOT A GOLF FOCUSED ENTERTAINMENT IS A YOU KNOW, I THINK AND EVERYONE HERE HAS SPOKEN WITHIN THE PGA OF AMERICA WANTS THIS TO BE THE HOME OF GOLF IN AMERICA, WHERE THE BUSINESS OF GOLF HAPPENS, WHERE THEY GROW THE GAME, THEY GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THE GAME, OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE PLAY.

I SPENT TWO YEARS OF MY LIFE LISTENING TO ALL UP AND DOWN THE PGA'S ORGANIZATION ABOUT WHY THEY WANT THAT TO BE TRUE HERE AT THIS LOCATION.

AND THE REALITY IS NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO PICK UP A DRIVER AND JUST GO UP TO THE FIRST TEE AND GO FOR IT.

THERE IS AN EVOLUTION AND INCORPORATION AND COMFORT FACTOR THAT HAS TO BE BUILT UP FOR THE GAME.

AND PROJECTS LIKE THIS ALLOW PEOPLE AN ON RAMP INTO THE SPORT.

AND THE PGA, I THINK, IS ECSTATIC TO HAVE AS MANY INLETS INTO THE GAME AS POSSIBLE.

WE ALSO VIEW IT.

WITH THIS CONVENTION CENTER HERE, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S ONE HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF MEETING SPACE, WHEN YOU GO TO A CONVENTION, YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE RESORT PROPERTY IF YOU GO TO SOME OF THESE RESORT DESTINATIONS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR EVENT, IF CERTAINLY IF IT'S TWO OR THREE OR FOUR DAYS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY THERE ALL THE TIME.

YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

WHAT WE WANTED TO DO HERE IS CREATE SOME AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET IN YOUR CAR OR LOAD UP IN A TOUR BUS AND DRIVE ALL OVER NORTH TEXAS TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CITY, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THAT WILL HAPPEN.

WE WANTED A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK OR RIDE AN ELECTRIC LITTLE SIX PASSENGER LITTLE EASY CART OR WHATEVER IT IS, GOLF CART BASICALLY, AND GO FROM THE MEETING SPACE THROUGH OUR PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE.

THERE'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION HERE, FEATURE PLAN SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF PGA PARKWAY AND GO INTO THIS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

SO THAT PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ADVANCING TODAY.

UP IN THE CORNER HERE, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL LARGE ENTERTAINMENT USERS WHERE I CAN'T DISCLOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE CONFIDENTIAL.

FRANKLY, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE NUANCES OF THE BUSINESS TERMS. BUT CONSIDER IT ANOTHER ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE CONFERENCE FACILITY TO GO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO DO.

WE'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL MEDICAL USERS.

WE'VE GOT KIND OF A WELLNESS CAMPUS THAT WE'VE PLANNED HERE.

THE IDEA IS TAKING THE BEST PRACTICES FROM BAYLOR, SCOTT WHITE AT THE STAR AND THE PARTNERSHIP THEY HAVE WITH THE COWBOYS.

WE'VE MADE SEVERAL INTRODUCTIONS TO THE TOP LEADERSHIP OF THE PGA OF AMERICA WITH FUTURE POTENTIAL WELLNESS AND MEDICAL TYPE USERS THAT WOULD CREATE A COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP SIMILAR TO WHAT THE COWBOYS HAVE DONE AT THE STAR WITH BAYLOR, SCOTT AND WHITE.

AND SO NONE OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE FINALIZED YET.

BUT WE'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC, GIVEN THE INTRODUCTIONS THAT WE'VE MADE, THAT WE'VE PLANTED SOME SEEDS THERE THAT WILL BEAR FRUIT FOR ESSENTIALLY A SIMILAR OPPORTUNITY.

AS JOHN MENTIONED, DOWN HERE IN THE CORNER, WE WANTED TO CREATE ONE ASPECT OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS DEDICATED AND SET ASIDE FOR A LARGE CORPORATE USER.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET FOUR BUILDINGS IN FAIRLY CLOSE PROXIMITY HERE IN A CAMPUS LIKE ENVIRONMENT.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTED A LARGE USE THAT WAS MULTI HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT USERS, THEY WANTED TO BE COHESIVE IN A SINGLE CAMPUS.

THAT'S THE AREA WHERE WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO GET TO THE MARKET AGAIN WITHOUT ZONING.

I CAN'T TELL MY BROKERS TO GO CALL ON COMPANIES IN CALIFORNIA AND SAY, MOVE HERE BECAUSE I CAN'T BUILD THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS TODAY.

BUT I DO FEEL LIKE GIVEN THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE EDC, THAT THAT'S A VERY LIKELY OPPORTUNITY.

AND WE HAVE COMMITTED WITHIN OUR BUSINESS PLAN NOT TO BUILD THAT FIRST BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER FOR A LARGER USE AND THEN ALL UP AND DOWN WHAT WE CALL THE MAJOR SPINE ROAD HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS WITHIN OUR PD FOR ENGAGEMENT OF THAT MAJOR SPINE ROAD, STOREFRONT WINDOWS, PATIOS, LARGE SIDEWALKS AND SETBACKS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AND STREET TREES AND PLANERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

WE'VE GOT LARGE GREEN SPACE PROGRAMED IN HERE TO KIND OF CONTINUE THE RESORT LOOK AND FEEL FROM PGA.

FIRST, GO INTO THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT YOU'VE GOT GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT USERS.

ONE OF OUR LEAD INVESTORS AND PARTNER IN THIS DEVELOPMENT IS STEVEN

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SUMMERS.

HE OWNS HIGHLAND PARK VILLAGE DOWN IN DALLAS.

IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, HE'S VERY ACTIVE IN THE HIGH END RETAIL AND RESTAURANT WORLD AND WE'VE ENGAGED HIM TO START SOLICITING.

WHAT I'LL JUST SAY IS RESTAURANTS AND RETAILERS THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE POTENTIALLY BE LOOKING IN THIS AREA.

BUT FOR THE CONNECTIVITY WE'VE GOT TO THE RESORT AND THE OVERALL DYNAMIC NATURE OF THE MIXED USE PLAN, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING TO A SMALLER BOUTIQUE HOTEL COMPANY THAT WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE OMNI IN A MUCH, MUCH SMALLER CONFIGURATION.

SO CLOSER TO ONE HUNDRED ROOMS AND WHAT I'LL CALL MORE OF AN URBAN STYLE HOTEL VERSUS A LARGE GROUP BUSINESS.

FIVE HUNDRED ROOM RESORT HOTEL.

SO ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH OUR ZONING HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE KIND OF WITH THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE'LL BE BUILDING ALL THIS UP TOGETHER.

IT'S A QUITE COMPLICATED AND DYNAMIC PROJECT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE THINK WE'VE GOT THE PIECES HERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND THEN SO, JOHN, THE PHASING, CAN YOU SUMMARIZE THE PHASING AGAIN, LIKE WHAT THEY WANT? IF THEY HAD ZONING TOMORROW, HOW MANY UNITS COULD THEY BUILD? WELL, THEY COULD DO AND PHASE ONE IS AGAIN, FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO URBAN LIVING UNITS HERE.

THEY CAN DO FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO UNITS IN THE MIXED USE URBAN AREA, OR THEY COULD DO ALL OF THE COTTAGE RESIDENTIAL AND NOT DO THE URBAN LIVING.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY COULD DO UP FRONT.

AFTER THAT, IT'S PUTTING IN WHAT? LIKE THERE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE PARK OR? WELL IF THEY DID THE URBAN LIVING HERE OR THEY GOT TO DO LIKE HALF OF THE TWO ACRE PARK WHICH.

WELL, HALF OF THE FOUR ACRE.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO TWO ACRES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO IMPROVE THE NORTHERN HALF OF THIS FLOODPLAIN THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CREEK AND THEN DOING THE FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO UNITS IN THE MIXED USE URBAN IS PUTTING IN SOME OF THE TRAILS AND A LITTLE BIT OF OPEN SPACE.

SO THERE'S A SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THAT FIRST PHASE.

BUT EVERYTHING AFTER THAT, AFTER THOSE NUMBER OF UNITS, IT'S ALL EARN OUTS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

SO, COUNCIL, MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE LOOK AT PERHAPS TABLING THIS ITEM, ALLOWING THE APPLICANT PERHAPS TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.

I KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE HAD THAT WORK SESSION.

I MAY BE MISSING A FEW THINGS.

I FELT LIKE EVERYTHING WE BROUGHT UP IN THAT WORK SESSION WAS ADDRESSED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

AND STAFF'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AT IT.

I KNOW EDC'S ALREADY BEEN ON THE TRAIL SPEAKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS A POTENTIAL UP AND COMING PROJECT FOR POTENTIAL PROSPECTS.

SO IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR US TO WEIGH ALL THE OUTCOMES THOROUGHLY.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME UNCERTAINTY AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE THAT MAYBE GIVEN ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS YOU CAN GET ADDRESSED.

ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO INSTEAD OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS, I WOULD SUGGEST MAY FOURTH, BECAUSE WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US TO GIVE AS MUCH TIME, BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS.

THEY WANT TO MAKE CHANGES.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO THAT CLAY? THAT'S FINE.

WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DO YOU HAVE? EVERYONE OPEN TO THAT? THAT MAKES SENSE, I THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, A LOT OF CONCERNS CLEARLY.

I THINK SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ARE APPLIED TO EVERY DEVELOPMENT NOW THAT WE ARE PRESENTED WITH.

CERTAINLY WITH TRAFFIC DENSITY IN APARTMENTS WHEN WE HEAR THAT TIME AND AGAIN, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN WE DISMISS IT.

IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND APPLY THEM CASE BY CASE.

AND HERE, I THINK SOME OF THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK WE HEARD WAS CERTAINLY GREENSPACE, TRAILS, PHASING AND THE CONCEPT OF A PRICE POINT THAT REPRESENTED OWNERSHIP AND NOT NECESSARILY RENTER-SHIP.

AND I THINK THAT ALSO RESIDENTS APPLAUD WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD ON THESE THINGS.

THEY MADE THE INVESTMENTS AND MADE A PURCHASE AND THAT RENTING HAS A DIFFERENT CONNOTATION.

AND I THINK TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THAT'D BE PART OF MY FEEDBACK.

BUT I ALSO APPLAUD COUNCILMAN WOODARD AND HIS INSIGHT ON THIS.

AND HE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE HAVING SERVED ON OUR PNZ BOARD.

AND AND HAS SPENT A LOT OF PERSONAL TIME ON THIS, ALONG WITH STAFF AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

BUT I WOULD TAKE HIS COMMENTS WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?

[01:55:01]

JUST APPRECIATE YOUR.

HOLD ON SO THIS CAN GO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST SAYING.

BUT, YEAH, BASED ON BILL'S EXPERIENCE, THE WORK HE'S PUT INTO THIS AND HIS INTERACTION WITH STAFF AND DEVELOPERS, I WOULD LEAN HEAVILY TOWARDS HIS OPINION ON HOW TO PROCEED ON THIS.

SO I WOULD IF ANYONE HAS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, I WOULD.

JUST ONE MORE JOHN.

I DID MEAN TO ASK.

I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PACKET, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE [INAUDIBLE] CASE? I DON'T THINK WE RECEIVED ANY.

NO, BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVEN'T ANYONE LIVING UP IN THIS AREA.

WELL, MAYBE,[INAUDIBLE].

ANYTHING ELSE? OK.

JOHN WERE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? I WAS GOING TO MOVE TO TABLE.

SECOND MOTION BY JOHN TO TABLE TO MAY THE FOURTH MEETING.

YEAH, IF YOU'RE GOING TABLE.

IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU WANT TABLE AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OPEN IT AND THEN CONTINUE THE PUBLIC TILL THE MAY FOURTH MEETING.

MOVED TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE IT TO THE MAY 4TH MEETING.

SECOND.

BY WILL, SECOND BY JOHN.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

LOOKS LIKE THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

I DON'T NEED ANYTHING FURTHER WITH THIS ITEM RIGHT? WE'RE GOOD.

EXCEPT TO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO USE THAT TIME TO GET WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

IT WAS A CHALLENGE MADE, SO [INAUDIBLE] MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE.

THAT WILL MOVE US TO ITEM FORTY FOUR, WHICH IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING, A

[44. Public Hearing: Substantial Amendment to the City of Frisco Consolidated Plan, PY 2019 Annual Action Plan. (Financial Services/AC)]

SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF FRISCO CONSOLIDATION PLAN PRIOR YEAR 2019 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHAT THIS IS.

AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR PLAN YEAR 2019, WHICH IS OUR FISCAL YEAR 2020.

THIS AMENDMENT REALLOCATES ADDITIONAL HUD CARES DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE AMOUNT WE WILL ALLOCATE TOTALS TO SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX DOLLARS.

AND THAT WILL BE GOING TO SOME NON-PROFITS TO SPEND ON LOW INCOME RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OPENED ON MARCH 22ND.

IT WILL RUN THROUGH APRIL 20TH.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THIS AMENDMENT.

AND THE SECOND WILL BE AT THE SOCIAL SERVICE HOUSING BOARD MEETING IN MAY.

AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING WILL ALSO BE HELD ON MAY 18TH TO DISCUSS THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

IT'S A HOUSING REHAB PROJECT, AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN YEAR 2020.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME WORK OVER AT THE FRISCO HOUSING AUTHORITY.

IT'S AROUND, LIKE I SAID, TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO CORRECT SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AND TO REMOVE SOME NATURAL GAS LINES.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD PUBLIC PROJECT THAT WE COULD USE.

SO THE ACTION TONIGHT WOULD JUST BE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY SHONE, SECOND BY WILL.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, MOVE TO CLOSE.

MOTION BY BILL TO CLOSE, SECOND BY SHONA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

THERE'S NO FURTHER ACTION TO TAKE? NO, SIR.

OK THAT WILL MOVE US TO.

[45. Consider and act upon adoption of an Ordinance to include the new Workers Compensation policy, new Return to Work policy and revised Americans with Disabilities Act policy. (HR/LS)]